I've got some lye here I'd like you to eat it... don't worry about what the box says.
Your crimes are quite clear. You have suggested to millions of people that they should be angry and throw bricks at cars. Textbook inciting a riot. Your motivation has been documented clearly in these comments and your identity can be determined much more easily than a defendant in one of those retarded RIAA cases.
"I don't like valve" or "I think it was a poor marketing decision" is an opinion.
"I should turn off their power and phones and throw bricks at their cars" is a statement of intent not an opinion. And a juvenile one at that.
I'm not your confederate... but any dumbass who listens to you is. And anyone who works at Valve who happens to get a brick through their windshield will be coming after you. And they will be within their rights.
Just like they were when they wrote up the LICENSE that they are SELLING you to USE the game as long as you abide by the terms of the license.
Anti-globalization stance?!?!?! Property rights?!?! Sabotage?!?!?! You sure have some sand in your panties over a company who you have bought nothing from.
If you wanted Valve to listen to you... perhaps you should try calling them, instead of suggesting that people vandalize their cars.
I'm off to play more TF2. Maybe I'll fly to Taiwan later and play it there too. And it will work, because I bought my copy though STEAM. Instead of off some guy in Taiwan.
"Show me what law makes a EULA valid. If you can do that without trolling I'll take you seriously and explain more about the damages you'd be liable for if you sold me something and then broke it as soon as I had taken possession."
It broke?
IT BROKE?
It's doing exactly what it says it will do on the outside of the box.
Complain that it broke and they would be happy to replace your Thailand only version with another Thailand only version.
Which works just fine in Thailand... (How hard is this to grasp?????)
Honestly I don't gives a rats ass if you take me seriously or not. I don't take you seriously.
Explain to me again how you think you OWN the intellectual property you buy.
Oh and while you are looking up EULA law... you might wanna read the parts of the law that cover VANDALISM and INCITING A RIOT.
Just in case your "hey everybody lets throw bricks at Valve's foreign cars!" idiocy gets noticed by some law enforcement officer.
The side of the box that says it won't work outside of Taiwan is irrelevant?
They sold the product,and they can't interfere with its usage?
There's no law on their side so nobody cares?
What is this nonsensical raving?
THEY SOLD YOU A LICENSE TO USE THEIR SOFTWARE, NOT THE SOFTWARE.
I suppose you are going to tell the police that you drivers license gives you the right to drive your car anywhere you want. I mean... it's YOUR license and YOUR car... how dare the police tell you where you can drive it.
Your DVD that you are free to watch anywhere? Don't show it on a big screen in your back yard for your neighbors. Public exhibition of a copyrighted work is actually a CRIME.
There are loads of laws that outline what can and cannot be done with software... the details of which are listed in the EULA of every piece of software that you OWN THE RIGHT TO USE. You see the difference? You didn't buy the software... you bought the license.
Some asshat said: "The only companies that got bit by this are ones that tried to take an identical product, slap two vastly different price-tags on them, and hope nobody noticed. Legitimate software companies - you know, ones that don't break the law - differentiate the versions by, and here's just one way, making them in the localized language so that they become less attractive to people merely looking to save a dollar."
They are NOT identical products.
ONE (the cheaper one) can only be used in Thailand.
The OTHER (the full price American version) can be used anywhere. (It's not region locked, DUH.)
They made the Thai version less attractive to American consumers... By assuring that it works only for the customers for which it was intended...
Oh, and BY WRITING ON THE BOX "Thai Version - Not for you! (You retarded woolly skirt stuffer)" or words to that effect.
Perhaps you'd rather to pay 59.99 for the game instead of 49.99 so that Valve would have the money to hire a second set of Thai voice actors and re-do all of the dialog in FIVE different games, then do all the sound processing again... then wait an extra year for release...all so that a bunch of whining idiots on slashdot can tell without reading the box that what they have in their hands is IN FACT a Thai version of the game that is not intended for them.
Valve is "breaking the law"? Ow my side hurts. Tell another one.
I cannot state this more simply. The region locking does not apply to YOU. The region locking only happens on RETAIL BOXED SETS SOLD IN FOREIGN MARKETS. They were clearly labeled as region locked. And they cost about 1/5 of the US price. So you get exactly what you paid for and what was advertised on the box. How is that a trick?
The ONLY people who got bit by this are people who went way out of their way to not pay full price for something that is brand spanking new. If they HAD ordered it through STEAM instead of buying a copy from some shady Taiwanese re-seller they would have a region free piece of software.
Gamers in Taiwan make a fraction of what you make (I'm assuming... but you may be a Walmart greeter for all I know)but Valve would still like them to be able to play too without spending half a weeks wages on the game... so they get special pricing and region locking so that Valve can be assured that spoiled American asshats like you aren't tempted to buy a version that wasn't intended for them.
Oh... and Angus McKilt... I don't think it's really a good thing that your pictures are backed up. Yes... I saw the one of you in a kilt. (UGH You backed that up?)
Wow. You have an incredibly naive view of the world.
"I'll just call up and cancel power and phone services for Valve's offices."
First of all... yeah... I'm SURE that will work.
Second of all... you have no idea the dedication that the guys at Valve have. They care about their customers. A LOT. An Example: They had a long power outage in Seattle and the battery backups for the Steam servers were at critical. The guys stayed all night and hacked the -emergency lighting- batteries together to keep the servers up for as long as possible so people could keep playing.
"It wouldn't take long for Storm to DDoS Steam off the net. When Valve folds we'll crack the games and keep playing properly. All the employees will get a job elsewhere, but the owners who profit from this deal will be broke. "
So you love the work that they spend 70+ hours a week producing... you love the games... you just don't feel that the people who made it are entitled to make a living from their profession?
Orange Box is 5 games for $50. Is $10 a game "ripping you off"? How much did you pay for Doom, or Quake? Oh yeah... you didn't. You pirated them. Never mind.
Those "owners" are the hard working people who made it possible for these other talented people to quit their jobs as pizza boys and tech support reps and make incredible games (for you to play) for a living instead.
Steam is the only piece of the DRM puzzle that seems to offer a fair balance between the rights of the customer and the interests of the company that is providing the goods.
I will never loose any of the games I have registered with Steam. I just set up a new machine... installed steam and bam! All my favorite games were instantly downloading... patches and all. Not -one- CD needed to be located. All my games are auto-patched. No hunting around for all the new video drivers. The less favorite games? Not installed. Still there to be downloaded at any time.
Never had one single issue.
I LOVE STEAM.
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I know something you don't know.
(mwahahahaha!)
Seriously. Stop.
Who cares what the box says?!?!?!?!
I've got some lye here I'd like you to eat it... don't worry about what the box says.
Your crimes are quite clear. You have suggested to millions of people that they should be angry and throw bricks at cars. Textbook inciting a riot.
Your motivation has been documented clearly in these comments and your identity can be determined much more easily than a defendant in one of those retarded RIAA cases.
"I don't like valve" or "I think it was a poor marketing decision" is an opinion.
"I should turn off their power and phones and throw bricks at their cars" is a statement of intent not an opinion. And a juvenile one at that.
I'm not your confederate... but any dumbass who listens to you is. And anyone who works at Valve who happens to get a brick through their windshield will be coming after you. And they will be within their rights.
Just like they were when they wrote up the LICENSE that they are SELLING you to USE the game as long as you abide by the terms of the license.
Anti-globalization stance?!?!?! Property rights?!?! Sabotage?!?!?! You sure have some sand in your panties over a company who you have bought nothing from.
If you wanted Valve to listen to you... perhaps you should try calling them, instead of suggesting that people vandalize their cars.
I'm off to play more TF2. Maybe I'll fly to Taiwan later and play it there too. And it will work, because I bought my copy though STEAM. Instead of off some guy in Taiwan.
Yay!
OK The bridge is all yours, troll boy.
"Show me what law makes a EULA valid. If you can do that without trolling I'll take you seriously and explain more about the damages you'd be liable for if you sold me something and then broke it as soon as I had taken possession."
It broke?
IT BROKE?
It's doing exactly what it says it will do on the outside of the box.
Complain that it broke and they would be happy to replace your Thailand only version with another Thailand only version.
Which works just fine in Thailand... (How hard is this to grasp?????)
Honestly I don't gives a rats ass if you take me seriously or not. I don't take you seriously.
Explain to me again how you think you OWN the intellectual property you buy.
Oh and while you are looking up EULA law... you might wanna read the parts of the law that cover VANDALISM and INCITING A RIOT.
Just in case your "hey everybody lets throw bricks at Valve's foreign cars!" idiocy gets noticed by some law enforcement officer.
The side of the box that says it won't work outside of Taiwan is irrelevant?
,and they can't interfere with its usage?
They sold the product
There's no law on their side so nobody cares?
What is this nonsensical raving?
THEY SOLD YOU A LICENSE TO USE THEIR SOFTWARE, NOT THE SOFTWARE.
I suppose you are going to tell the police that you drivers license gives you the right to drive your car anywhere you want. I mean... it's YOUR license and YOUR car... how dare the police tell you where you can drive it.
Your DVD that you are free to watch anywhere? Don't show it on a big screen in your back yard for your neighbors. Public exhibition of a copyrighted work is actually a CRIME.
There are loads of laws that outline what can and cannot be done with software... the details of which are listed in the EULA of every piece of software that you OWN THE RIGHT TO USE. You see the difference? You didn't buy the software... you bought the license.
OK lawyer boy.
Cite the "Law" they are breaking.
I'll finish eating that squirrel for you.
Wait... that's your gnarly unkempt beard!
What the hell... I'll finish eating that.
Some asshat said:
"The only companies that got bit by this are ones that tried to take an identical product, slap two vastly different price-tags on them, and hope nobody noticed.
Legitimate software companies - you know, ones that don't break the law - differentiate the versions by, and here's just one way, making them in the localized language so that they become less attractive to people merely looking to save a dollar."
They are NOT identical products.
ONE (the cheaper one) can only be used in Thailand.
The OTHER (the full price American version) can be used anywhere. (It's not region locked, DUH.)
They made the Thai version less attractive to American consumers... By assuring that it works only for the customers for which it was intended...
Oh, and BY WRITING ON THE BOX "Thai Version - Not for you! (You retarded woolly skirt stuffer)" or words to that effect.
Perhaps you'd rather to pay 59.99 for the game instead of 49.99 so that Valve would have the money to hire a second set of Thai voice actors and re-do all of the dialog in FIVE different games, then do all the sound processing again... then wait an extra year for release...all so that a bunch of whining idiots on slashdot can tell without reading the box that what they have in their hands is IN FACT a Thai version of the game that is not intended for them.
Valve is "breaking the law"? Ow my side hurts. Tell another one.
I cannot state this more simply. The region locking does not apply to YOU. The region locking only happens on RETAIL BOXED SETS SOLD IN FOREIGN MARKETS. They were clearly labeled as region locked. And they cost about 1/5 of the US price. So you get exactly what you paid for and what was advertised on the box. How is that a trick?
The ONLY people who got bit by this are people who went way out of their way to not pay full price for something that is brand spanking new. If they HAD ordered it through STEAM instead of buying a copy from some shady Taiwanese re-seller they would have a region free piece of software.
Gamers in Taiwan make a fraction of what you make (I'm assuming... but you may be a Walmart greeter for all I know)but Valve would still like them to be able to play too without spending half a weeks wages on the game... so they get special pricing and region locking so that Valve can be assured that spoiled American asshats like you aren't tempted to buy a version that wasn't intended for them.
Oh... and Angus McKilt... I don't think it's really a good thing that your pictures are backed up. Yes... I saw the one of you in a kilt. (UGH You backed that up?)
Wow. You have an incredibly naive view of the world. "I'll just call up and cancel power and phone services for Valve's offices." First of all... yeah... I'm SURE that will work. Second of all... you have no idea the dedication that the guys at Valve have. They care about their customers. A LOT. An Example: They had a long power outage in Seattle and the battery backups for the Steam servers were at critical. The guys stayed all night and hacked the -emergency lighting- batteries together to keep the servers up for as long as possible so people could keep playing. "It wouldn't take long for Storm to DDoS Steam off the net. When Valve folds we'll crack the games and keep playing properly. All the employees will get a job elsewhere, but the owners who profit from this deal will be broke. " So you love the work that they spend 70+ hours a week producing... you love the games... you just don't feel that the people who made it are entitled to make a living from their profession? Orange Box is 5 games for $50. Is $10 a game "ripping you off"? How much did you pay for Doom, or Quake? Oh yeah... you didn't. You pirated them. Never mind. Those "owners" are the hard working people who made it possible for these other talented people to quit their jobs as pizza boys and tech support reps and make incredible games (for you to play) for a living instead. Steam is the only piece of the DRM puzzle that seems to offer a fair balance between the rights of the customer and the interests of the company that is providing the goods. I will never loose any of the games I have registered with Steam. I just set up a new machine... installed steam and bam! All my favorite games were instantly downloading... patches and all. Not -one- CD needed to be located. All my games are auto-patched. No hunting around for all the new video drivers. The less favorite games? Not installed. Still there to be downloaded at any time. Never had one single issue. I LOVE STEAM.