Was it right or wrong to let Terri Schaivo die? Is it right or wrong to abort a pregnancy when it is known that the baby will die in horrible agony shortly after birth? Is it murder when a woman's body flushes out a fertilized egg? Is it murder when a geneticist fails to implant a fertilized egg into a woman's uterus?
I've never had Windows ask for it. All I've been prompted with is a "would you like to activate", selected the online option and clicked OK. Job done.
I suppose then that you've always dealt with either volume licensed or disk images with Windows preinstalled? Or is this how they do things with Vista these days?
If you were a *nix admin, you'd already have the fix by now. If you were a punk like me, you'd be spending some free time patching together a solution.
You probably value your time *much* more highly than I do, though.
Some manufacturers ship an N volt DC tip-positive adaptor with a million different incompatible ends just so that they can make money on new adaptors.:(
I've sifted through a substantial chunk of your conversations. I hope that this online persona is something that you've ginned up for kicks. If it's not, you've wasted a horribly large chunk of your life. You've been at this for more than ten years. If you are as you present yourself, you haven't learned a single thing in all that time. That's at least a tenth of your life pissed away. If this APK persona *really* is you, you're being justifiably pitied and shunned.
Answer this simple set of questions...
You have failed to address my initial challenge to you.
Take the last comment. I can get nothing good from you.
I rather doubt many people would have the guts to fly the first airplane either once they realized they could put their foot through the wing without any effort.
Aye. This is probably true. Most people probably wouldn't hop in the Wright Flyer, even after they'd been told how and why it works.
I had hoped that you would have been informative at some point in our conversation. It's a pity that you were not. Please return to guarding your bridge.
*This* is why I use a single slashdot account. If I have something to say to another user, I *always* attach my name to it. I stand behind everything that I say on this site and others, karma be damned.
That linked review does not mention any specifics about the memory that was installed on the iram. Stop selling the sizzle. Start telling me what's in the steak.
You mean the part where I said: "The iram is an SATA disk... Gigabyte provides no drivers for the iram." Then you said: "Your problem is that LINUX itself isn't using the hardware abstractions for HDD's on the SATA circuit properly apparently" Then I said: "Pardon? Please remind me, how does an OS interact with a chunk of hardware?" Then you said: "Drivers & a 'HAL' (hardware abstraction layer), elementary stuff." And I had preemptively replied: "There *is* no driver for the iram. It's an SATA device." Even if there were a driver, it wouldn't fix broken hardware. No amount of software can fix destroyed HDD armatures. No amount of software can correct a memory controller that's wildy out of whack.:)
You mentioned the Windows HAL. I noticed that, but had to run off to work and only had time for a quick reply. Why, exactly are you bringing this up? IIRC, Linux kernel drivers don't use a HAL... at least, not like the diagram for Windows driver stack seems to indicate. They work -for better or worse- directly with the hardware. Does an in-kernel HAL make for better drivers? If so, how? [You claim to be a knowledgeable Windows kernel driver developer. Educate me.:D]
All I had to do was backup my initial 2 statements:
Incorrect. All you had to do was address my initial statement: "Heh. The i-RAM is a finicky chunk of trash."
You haven't produced a repro recipe for a known working configuration. You've gone on and on about your education, credentials, and published works while handwaving in the direction of the hardware in question. I don't care about *you*. I care about *the* *hardware*. If you can get a known working configuration in the hands of a kernel developer who then confirms the configuration's state, I'll go out next month and buy an iram and appropriate hardware. I'll add what quirks -if any- are needed for stable operation of the iram to the SATA driver for my chipset. I'd *LOVE* to have an excuse to get my name into the CREDITS file of the kernel.:)
Including... attempts to put words into my mouth I never stated as well... apk
That in Windows, Gigabyte's IRAM works just FINE... & LINUX, per his own evidence? It apparently does NOT... nuff said...
Until you produce a repro recipe you haven't said anything.:)
Produce the details of your functioning configuration. iram revision, RAM make and model, RAM layout, SATA chipset, mobo model and revision, OS version and patch level, driver revisions for all of the above (when appropriate).
Until you come forth with that, you're just another AC blowing smoke.
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BTW: Your audio posts *are* frikkin' hilarious. I'mma gonna get a mic and record myself sometime in the next couple of months. I've been told that I talk a *lot* while I sleep. (I've even woken myself up a time or too!)
LOL, just personal style is all... what's with YOUR LACK OF IT? That knife, cuts BOTH ways...
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Who's cutting here? I was unaware that I was talking with an emo kid.;)
"I'd *really* love it if someone would manufacture a reliable RAM-based disk"
I have one, that I mentioned iniially, a CENATEK "RocketDrive"
Ah. I'm -shamefully- going to have to move the goalposts on this one... at 4X the cost per MB of DDR1 RAM, PC-133 RAM is too expensive for me. : (
I used SSD's OR software based Ramdisks/Ramdrives & showed HOW they can aid performance,
Good job, there... demonstrating how moving to a device with a higher throughput and lower average seek time increases performance for IO bound tasks.:/ Did they teach you that in your MIS courses, or during your Associates' Degree?
"he iram is an SATA disk that uses the PCI bus for power. Gigabyte provides no drivers for the iram. (Before you argue this point, check out what "drivers" they offer on their web site.)"
I know the technology... Then, apparently?
Your problem is that LINUX itself isn't using the hardware abstractions for HDD's on the SATA circuit properly apparently, rather than this being a driver issue...
Pardon? Please remind me, how does an OS interact with a chunk of hardware?
OR, that Linux drivers are not supplied for the IRAM by Gigabyte, & no kernel dev. has built a GOOD solid one yet... take your pick.
There *is* no driver for the iram. It's an SATA device.
Speaking of SATA devices... I spent a little while looking at the SATA driver for the controller in my desktop machine. There appear to be two device-specific quirks in it. One limits a particular Maxtor drive to UDMA5. The other limits the maximum number of transfered sectors for some Seagate drive. These quirk handlers do not seem to be in all of the libata SATA drivers that I've looked at tonight. Is it possible that the iram needs special handling? Yes. Is it possible that Gigabyte hasn't gotten the word out to the Linux kernel devs? Yes. Is it likely? No. It's more likely that the iram is *very* picky about the type of RAM that it's paired with. If you can get a working iram out to Mr. Jones -and have him create a detailed report on his success- then you'll have a rhetorical leg to stand on. [And I'll purchased a fantastic present for myself next month.:)]
"This guy is a kernel hacker"
... & this means WHAT to me?
This means that he's a meticulous fellow who can *probably* figure out how to install and debug an SATA device.
"Lovely.:) It's not the iram."
Uhm... I never said it WAS!
Please try to keep up. I said "Heh. The i-RAM is a finicky chunk of trash." You then point to the track record of a *totally* *different* *device*. Is old age shortening your attention span?;)
You have a point here, & it IS, good to question any analysis, by all means... HOWEVER, sometimes? I "question the questioners"!
Lovely. What has your analysis of the objections raised to the article in question revealed?
I disagree. I wish for dialogs originating from the application that currently has focus which pop up due to an action that I have initiated to steal my keyboard focus.
Firefox Profile Manager comes up at Firefox start? I want it to have focus. File chooser dialog spawns 'cause of a "Save As..." type action? That needs focus. Said file chooser box takes a while to spawn, and I've moused over to a terminal in the meantime? The terminal shall maintain focus when the chooser dialog eventually shows up.
At some level, this becomes a matter of taste.:)
Incremental search is the greatest thing since sliced bread. (Even Visual Studio has it!);)
This is something that I ran into just last Thursday! I assume that you're manually entering your display config into your xorg.conf? Stop that. You *NEED* to be using xrandr 1.2. If you're using a modern distro, you ought to have xrandr 1.2 support.
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Some questions:
Was it right or wrong to let Terri Schaivo die?
Is it right or wrong to abort a pregnancy when it is known that the baby will die in horrible agony shortly after birth?
Is it murder when a woman's body flushes out a fertilized egg?
Is it murder when a geneticist fails to implant a fertilized egg into a woman's uterus?
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You're welcome. :D
YHBT. This fellow talks like he hasn't been paying attention. He's either clueless, or fishing.
I've never had Windows ask for it. All I've been prompted with is a "would you like to activate", selected the online option and clicked OK. Job done.
I suppose then that you've always dealt with either volume licensed or disk images with Windows preinstalled?
Or is this how they do things with Vista these days?
If you were a *nix admin, you'd already have the fix by now.
If you were a punk like me, you'd be spending some free time patching together a solution.
You probably value your time *much* more highly than I do, though.
OP mentioned his smoothly running WSUS setup.
The AC seems to have mentioned that you can integrate FF and WSUS.
Some manufacturers ship an N volt DC tip-positive adaptor with a million different incompatible ends just so that they can make money on new adaptors. :(
I've sifted through a substantial chunk of your conversations. I hope that this online persona is something that you've ginned up for kicks. If it's not, you've wasted a horribly large chunk of your life.
You've been at this for more than ten years. If you are as you present yourself, you haven't learned a single thing in all that time. That's at least a tenth of your life pissed away. If this APK persona *really* is you, you're being justifiably pitied and shunned.
Answer this simple set of questions...
You have failed to address my initial challenge to you.
Take the last comment. I can get nothing good from you.
I rather doubt many people would have the guts to fly the first airplane either once they realized they could put their foot through the wing without any effort.
Aye. This is probably true. Most people probably wouldn't hop in the Wright Flyer, even after they'd been told how and why it works.
Most people are fools. :/
Thanks a million! Would you happen to know what SATA chipsets were on the Gigabyte and MSI mobos? :D
I'll get to checking this thing out next month. I hope that I can find one on ebay. (And I hope that I can pass a positive report along to Mr. Jones!)
Also, that apk guy doesn't seem to be on an even keel. He has... a history. :/
Ah, crap. That walkthrough of kernelslacker's LJ post was posted by me. /me hates the mile-long area for the "Post Anonymously" checkbox.
*chuckles*
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/51009562/m/3680937305
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/12009443/m/757093113/p/2
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tpc&s=50009562&f=12009443&m=1810993821
(Especially:
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/12009443/m/1810993821?r=2310969821#2310969821
)
I had hoped that you would have been informative at some point in our conversation. It's a pity that you were not.
Please return to guarding your bridge.
Hello, APK.
*This* is why I use a single slashdot account. If I have something to say to another user, I *always* attach my name to it. I stand behind everything that I say on this site and others, karma be damned.
You put the Coward in Anonymous Coward.
That linked review does not mention any specifics about the memory that was installed on the iram. Stop selling the sizzle. Start telling me what's in the steak.
Are you this evasive and abusive in person? If so, and if your resumé comes my way I'll strongly advise to not hire.
Cheers!
my last reply set ALL of that straight, here:
You mean the part where I said: :)
"The iram is an SATA disk... Gigabyte provides no drivers for the iram."
Then you said:
"Your problem is that LINUX itself isn't using the hardware abstractions for HDD's on the SATA circuit properly apparently"
Then I said:
"Pardon? Please remind me, how does an OS interact with a chunk of hardware?"
Then you said:
"Drivers & a 'HAL' (hardware abstraction layer), elementary stuff."
And I had preemptively replied:
"There *is* no driver for the iram. It's an SATA device."
Even if there were a driver, it wouldn't fix broken hardware. No amount of software can fix destroyed HDD armatures. No amount of software can correct a memory controller that's wildy out of whack.
You mentioned the Windows HAL. I noticed that, but had to run off to work and only had time for a quick reply. :D]
Why, exactly are you bringing this up? IIRC, Linux kernel drivers don't use a HAL... at least, not like the diagram for Windows driver stack seems to indicate. They work -for better or worse- directly with the hardware. Does an in-kernel HAL make for better drivers? If so, how? [You claim to be a knowledgeable Windows kernel driver developer. Educate me.
All I had to do was backup my initial 2 statements:
Incorrect. All you had to do was address my initial statement:
"Heh. The i-RAM is a finicky chunk of trash."
You haven't produced a repro recipe for a known working configuration. You've gone on and on about your education, credentials, and published works while handwaving in the direction of the hardware in question. I don't care about *you*. I care about *the* *hardware*. :)
If you can get a known working configuration in the hands of a kernel developer who then confirms the configuration's state, I'll go out next month and buy an iram and appropriate hardware. I'll add what quirks -if any- are needed for stable operation of the iram to the SATA driver for my chipset. I'd *LOVE* to have an excuse to get my name into the CREDITS file of the kernel.
Including ... attempts to put words into my mouth I never stated as well... apk
When did I do this? Include citations.
That in Windows, Gigabyte's IRAM works just FINE... & LINUX, per his own evidence? It apparently does NOT... nuff said...
Until you produce a repro recipe you haven't said anything. :)
Produce the details of your functioning configuration. iram revision, RAM make and model, RAM layout, SATA chipset, mobo model and revision, OS version and patch level, driver revisions for all of the above (when appropriate).
Until you come forth with that, you're just another AC blowing smoke.
BTW: Your audio posts *are* frikkin' hilarious. I'mma gonna get a mic and record myself sometime in the next couple of months. I've been told that I talk a *lot* while I sleep. (I've even woken myself up a time or too!)
LOL, just personal style is all... what's with YOUR LACK OF IT? That knife, cuts BOTH ways...
----
Who's cutting here? I was unaware that I was talking with an emo kid. ;)
"I'd *really* love it if someone would manufacture a reliable RAM-based disk"
I have one, that I mentioned iniially, a CENATEK "RocketDrive"
Ah. I'm -shamefully- going to have to move the goalposts on this one... at 4X the cost per MB of DDR1 RAM, PC-133 RAM is too expensive for me. : (
I used SSD's OR software based Ramdisks/Ramdrives & showed HOW they can aid performance,
Good job, there... demonstrating how moving to a device with a higher throughput and lower average seek time increases performance for IO bound tasks. :/ Did they teach you that in your MIS courses, or during your Associates' Degree?
"he iram is an SATA disk that uses the PCI bus for power. Gigabyte provides no drivers for the iram. (Before you argue this point, check out what "drivers" they offer on their web site.)"
I know the technology... Then, apparently?
Your problem is that LINUX itself isn't using the hardware abstractions for HDD's on the SATA circuit properly apparently, rather than this being a driver issue...
Pardon? Please remind me, how does an OS interact with a chunk of hardware?
OR, that Linux drivers are not supplied for the IRAM by Gigabyte, & no kernel dev. has built a GOOD solid one yet... take your pick.
There *is* no driver for the iram. It's an SATA device.
Speaking of SATA devices... :)]
I spent a little while looking at the SATA driver for the controller in my desktop machine. There appear to be two device-specific quirks in it. One limits a particular Maxtor drive to UDMA5. The other limits the maximum number of transfered sectors for some Seagate drive. These quirk handlers do not seem to be in all of the libata SATA drivers that I've looked at tonight.
Is it possible that the iram needs special handling? Yes. Is it possible that Gigabyte hasn't gotten the word out to the Linux kernel devs? Yes. Is it likely? No.
It's more likely that the iram is *very* picky about the type of RAM that it's paired with. If you can get a working iram out to Mr. Jones -and have him create a detailed report on his success- then you'll have a rhetorical leg to stand on. [And I'll purchased a fantastic present for myself next month.
"This guy is a kernel hacker"
... & this means WHAT to me?
This means that he's a meticulous fellow who can *probably* figure out how to install and debug an SATA device.
"Lovely. :) It's not the iram."
Uhm... I never said it WAS!
Please try to keep up. ;)
I said "Heh. The i-RAM is a finicky chunk of trash."
You then point to the track record of a *totally* *different* *device*. Is old age shortening your attention span?
You have a point here, & it IS, good to question any analysis, by all means... HOWEVER, sometimes? I "question the questioners"!
Lovely. What has your analysis of the objections raised to the article in question revealed?
No window should ever steal focus ... ever.
I disagree. I wish for dialogs originating from the application that currently has focus which pop up due to an action that I have initiated to steal my keyboard focus.
Firefox Profile Manager comes up at Firefox start? I want it to have focus.
File chooser dialog spawns 'cause of a "Save As..." type action? That needs focus.
Said file chooser box takes a while to spawn, and I've moused over to a terminal in the meantime? The terminal shall maintain focus when the chooser dialog eventually shows up.
At some level, this becomes a matter of taste. :)
Incremental search is the greatest thing since sliced bread. (Even Visual Studio has it!) ;)
Why, we can't have people on welfare!
They must work for their money!
But, seriously. I like how you think.
*nods*
Our Representatives no longer represent us.
*nods*
Let the electorate call for Socialism, not those who are in danger of losing their shirts.
Yo.
There's a much more convenient way to do xorg display configuration.
Check out this comment for more info.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1062647&cid=26121807
OH SQUEE!
This is something that I ran into just last Thursday!
I assume that you're manually entering your display config into your xorg.conf? Stop that. You *NEED* to be using xrandr 1.2. If you're using a modern distro, you ought to have xrandr 1.2 support.
Check out the block after the first EDIT in this document for more info:
http://simoncion.livejournal.com/307011.html
Seriously, this stuff is slick as black ice. We're finally within pissing distance of Windows' multi-monitor configuration tools!
Also, if you have *any* questions about this, feel free to contact me. My email address should be easy to figure out... I have a gmail account. :)
Bah.
It's *Giga*watts.
It's pronounced as *Jigga*watts.