Can you tell me what "morally true" means in the context of this discussion?
Gah. I'm almost sorry that I even brought up mplayer... Mplayer (and every other video playing app) is *much* different from every other X app out there. Every other X app can (and does) send rendering instructions across the network that are far less costly than blitting the whole damn window. Mplayer (and every other video playing app) can't do this, cause -by definition- they're blitting their whole damn window.
IIRC, if you enable the Ctrl-Alt-Slash function, you've just defeated every screen locking program in existence. Someone can Ctrl-Alt-Slash, pop up a terminal, then 'killall $Screen_Locking_Programs'.
It is true that if you application does nothing but push images or video into a window, then there is little alternative to blitting across the network, but this is not what is happening in the majority of apps today.
*cough cough* mplayer *cough cough* [otherwise, I agree with everything you said!]
(please don't bite off my head! Check downthread [1] for what I've been saying to this other dood!)
Give me a break. Atoms stay around in memory forever, by design.
I'm ignorant. Would you point me to the section in the docs that mentions this design requirement?
There's no audio.
Does OS X provide some sort of unified audio system? I know that you could play PCM files in Win 3.1, and Win 95 and up... so there was some sort of audio system involved there. But these days, you use generally use DirectAudio. However, I'm not sure that X11 needs to handle audio. Remember two things: 1) X11 was first written in the very late eighties. Not too many folks were using systems with sound cards at the time. 2) Modern Linux systems have ALSA for local audo. If they want networked audio, then they could use PulseAudio or aRTS. (or others.) Why add an audio spec to X11, when (most) everyone is already using something else?
It has the overhead of packing/unpacking data into structs.
Please go read the Win32 documentation for things like CreateFontIndirect and RegisterClassEx. Examine the function signatures closely.
The list goes on and on. Seriously I could fill pages of just mentions of the problems, assuming you to know the details.
Can you detail the problems? I'm genuinely curious here. Let's have a discussion. Hit me up at my slashdot username at gmail.
So what does X get right? You can run a program over the network. That's it. Awesome... except that almost nobody does this, and VNC basically solves that problem.
Actually, this *is* awesome. And, VNC does *not* solve that problem, not by a long shot. X11 is more efficient than even tightVNC.
And, if both ends support OpenGL acceleration, you can forward an OGL app over the LAN with very little slowdown. (Factoid of the day: Did you know that OpenGL was designed to be forwarded over the network? It's true! : D )
Could you give me some reproduction recipes for your "vanishing mouse" bug?
Also, what windowing system *would* let you restart it, but keep all existing programs running? I can't think of any, but I'm an ignorant fool.
Apropos of nothing, -and interestingly enough- I've found a way to kill clients that grab your mouse and keyboard, and won't let go... without killing the X server. Send them a SIGPWR. (htop lists it as signal 30.)
Shit. I'm complaining about it. It's not Fallout if you can't kill *EVERYTHING*.
Fallout was about giving you the choice to do whatever you wanted to do; just so long as it didn't block the main quest. Its subtitle could be "Gritty realism in an absurd world."
Run off and play through the Tranquillity Lane quest. Perform all of the evil actions available to you and complete the quest. Then, come back here and let me know how that compared to killing children on the "sick fuck behavior" scale.
I'm afraid that I can't offer any more solid evidence than that. : ( Anyway... if you're looking for an RPG with pretty solid (mostly) real-time combat, run out and get this game. [heh, did I mention that it's rather pretty? (it also runs well on my hardware!)] [1]
[1] Athlon XP 2600 (~2.1Ghz). 2GB RAM, Radeon X850 (AGP)
Then it's a fixed cost, which still needs to be covered.
Yes. It does. I was not claiming otherwise. Perhaps I misspoke. The PP mentioned that the govt. "meters" road uses by taxing road fuels. I maintain that this is a terrible analogy. It's FAR more *EXPENSIVE* to move things by truck than it is to not move them at all. In the world of networking, the cost is in acquiring and operating the gear, not shipping the bits.
And yes, I do know that one needs to acquire more bit-handling hardware as your subscribers increase. However, assume that you *already* have N subscribers and the hardware to support them. Your *REAL* operating costs don't change 'cause they used all the bandwidth that you provisioned for them.
Your "metered road use" argument is flawed. I doubt that there are any *real* costs in moving a byte across the network. I'd be willing to bet that all that fancy networking gear uses just about as much power when it's idling as when it's transmitting.
Also, the cablecos and telcos *already* limit our "vehicle size and weight". They slap a "governor" on our modems (or other interface devices) that limits our download and/or upload rates.
Subversion usability leaves a lot to be desired (although the book is really nice). For example, cd into a working copy that you've never seen before and try to determine its exact repository URL.
Or, try making a branch without typing in the entire repository URL (assuming you even know it).
~ $ svn co -q svn://server/tools/trunk toolswc ~ $ cd toolswc toolswc $ svn cp . $(svn info . | grep '^Repository Root'|sed -e 's/Repository Root://')/branches/tool -m "* New branch for slashdot!"
Committed revision 5. toolswc $
Subversion and Visual Source Safe are the only two version control systems that I've ever had repository corruption problems with
What version of svn were you using? What repo backend? What sort of corruption happened? Did you contact the list and/or file a bug? (I'm genuinely curious here... repo corruptions caused by subversion (and not hardware failure) are a *REALLY* big deal and must be squashed.)
How was the olde fart in the GP's post supposed to divine Security's intention? Moreover, what does Security stand to gain by detaining and berating someone who isn't fooled by their faux security?
Your average retailer is looking at 2% to 5% in shrinkage, every day. You wonder why more and more stores are checking people as they leave?
BDawson exploded your mishandling of the statistic further downthread, so I'll not bother with that.
His linked Wikipedia article mentions that the majority of theft-related shrinkage is caused by the employees! What's your answer to that, Mr. Smartypants?
A "stock" XBOX doesn't permit you to copy your game disc to the HDD. (Seeing as how the HDDs were ~8GB, I'm not sure that it would have mattered *too* much if it had been permitted.)
OTOH my modified xbox has no problems with this. *Vastly* decreased load times FTW.
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Windows programs don't use only functions from the 3.11 API...
Unless *I* write them!
*rimshot* I'm here all night, folks!
Can you tell me what "morally true" means in the context of this discussion?
Gah. I'm almost sorry that I even brought up mplayer...
Mplayer (and every other video playing app) is *much* different from every other X app out there. Every other X app can (and does) send rendering instructions across the network that are far less costly than blitting the whole damn window. Mplayer (and every other video playing app) can't do this, cause -by definition- they're blitting their whole damn window.
IIRC, if you enable the Ctrl-Alt-Slash function, you've just defeated every screen locking program in existence. Someone can Ctrl-Alt-Slash, pop up a terminal, then 'killall $Screen_Locking_Programs'.
It is true that if you application does nothing but push images or video into a window, then there is little alternative to blitting across the network, but this is not what is happening in the majority of apps today.
*cough cough* mplayer *cough cough* [otherwise, I agree with everything you said!]
(please don't bite off my head! Check downthread [1] for what I've been saying to this other dood!)
[1] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1017147&cid=25623333
Give me a break. Atoms stay around in memory forever, by design.
I'm ignorant. Would you point me to the section in the docs that mentions this design requirement?
There's no audio.
Does OS X provide some sort of unified audio system?
I know that you could play PCM files in Win 3.1, and Win 95 and up... so there was some sort of audio system involved there. But these days, you use generally use DirectAudio.
However, I'm not sure that X11 needs to handle audio. Remember two things:
1) X11 was first written in the very late eighties. Not too many folks were using systems with sound cards at the time.
2) Modern Linux systems have ALSA for local audo. If they want networked audio, then they could use PulseAudio or aRTS. (or others.) Why add an audio spec to X11, when (most) everyone is already using something else?
It has the overhead of packing/unpacking data into structs.
Please go read the Win32 documentation for things like CreateFontIndirect and RegisterClassEx. Examine the function signatures closely.
The list goes on and on. Seriously I could fill pages of just mentions of the problems, assuming you to know the details.
Can you detail the problems? I'm genuinely curious here. Let's have a discussion. Hit me up at my slashdot username at gmail.
So what does X get right? You can run a program over the network. That's it. Awesome... except that almost nobody does this, and VNC basically solves that problem.
Actually, this *is* awesome. And, VNC does *not* solve that problem, not by a long shot. X11 is more efficient than even tightVNC.
And, if both ends support OpenGL acceleration, you can forward an OGL app over the LAN with very little slowdown. (Factoid of the day: Did you know that OpenGL was designed to be forwarded over the network? It's true! : D )
Could you give me some reproduction recipes for your "vanishing mouse" bug?
Also, what windowing system *would* let you restart it, but keep all existing programs running? I can't think of any, but I'm an ignorant fool.
Apropos of nothing, -and interestingly enough- I've found a way to kill clients that grab your mouse and keyboard, and won't let go... without killing the X server. Send them a SIGPWR. (htop lists it as signal 30.)
Shit. I'm complaining about it. It's not Fallout if you can't kill *EVERYTHING*.
Fallout was about giving you the choice to do whatever you wanted to do; just so long as it didn't block the main quest. Its subtitle could be "Gritty realism in an absurd world."
Run off and play through the Tranquillity Lane quest. Perform all of the evil actions available to you and complete the quest. Then, come back here and let me know how that compared to killing children on the "sick fuck behavior" scale.
[citation needed]
Hnnh. I picked up the game on the 31st, and have been enjoying it ever since.
Having said that, I'm playing on hard, and have only gotten my ass kicked by one thing... Deathclaws.
My character just before leaving Vault 101:
10 STR
6 END
1 INT
1 CHA
10 LCK
She specializes in punching the shit out of shit. Ever since I found the Power Fist, I've had no trouble with anything! (except the Deathclaws)
Heh. They've changed the headers:
X-Leela: There's a political debate on. Quick, change the channel!
I've seen comments on /. that indicate that *some* banks *are* handing out authentication tokens.
This teller... was she a fun lay?
I hear that DR-DOS and Linux are pretty cheap these days.
It is true.
I'm afraid that I can't offer any more solid evidence than that. : (
Anyway... if you're looking for an RPG with pretty solid (mostly) real-time combat, run out and get this game. [heh, did I mention that it's rather pretty? (it also runs well on my hardware!)] [1]
[1] Athlon XP 2600 (~2.1Ghz). 2GB RAM, Radeon X850 (AGP)
Where I live, the lowest of those salaries is a quite comfortable living...
--
But I want to eat cookies all the time! I want to do it!!
Sounds like you can!
Then it's a fixed cost, which still needs to be covered.
Yes. It does. I was not claiming otherwise.
Perhaps I misspoke. The PP mentioned that the govt. "meters" road uses by taxing road fuels. I maintain that this is a terrible analogy. It's FAR more *EXPENSIVE* to move things by truck than it is to not move them at all. In the world of networking, the cost is in acquiring and operating the gear, not shipping the bits.
And yes, I do know that one needs to acquire more bit-handling hardware as your subscribers increase. However, assume that you *already* have N subscribers and the hardware to support them. Your *REAL* operating costs don't change 'cause they used all the bandwidth that you provisioned for them.
What does that matter? I'm talking about the economic realities of the situation... not the political ones.
Your "metered road use" argument is flawed. I doubt that there are any *real* costs in moving a byte across the network. I'd be willing to bet that all that fancy networking gear uses just about as much power when it's idling as when it's transmitting.
Also, the cablecos and telcos *already* limit our "vehicle size and weight". They slap a "governor" on our modems (or other interface devices) that limits our download and/or upload rates.
No really. To make it usable you need to turn the security off...
Back up that claim with examples, or shut the fuck up. You're hurting Slashdot by producing more of this unsubstantiated bullshit. [1]
[1] Have you seen that one where Jon Stewart is talking to the Crossfire [2] guys? If not, check [3] for the story.
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_(TV_series)
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crossfire_(TV_series)&oldid=246136706#Jon_Stewart.27s_appearance
Would you mention what did you called MSFT for, and what support were you provided?
Subversion usability leaves a lot to be desired (although the book is really nice). For example, cd into a working copy that you've never seen before and try to determine its exact repository URL.
~ $ cd /usr/src/packages/liferea/liferea_stable/doc/
doc $ svn info | grep ^URL
URL: http s://liferea.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/liferea/branches/liferea-1_4/liferea/doc
doc $
Or, try making a branch without typing in the entire repository URL (assuming you even know it).
~ $ svn co -q svn://server/tools/trunk toolswc //')/branches/tool -m "* New branch for slashdot!"
~ $ cd toolswc
toolswc $ svn cp . $(svn info . | grep '^Repository Root'|sed -e 's/Repository Root:
Committed revision 5.
toolswc $
Subversion and Visual Source Safe are the only two version control systems that I've ever had repository corruption problems with
What version of svn were you using?
What repo backend?
What sort of corruption happened?
Did you contact the list and/or file a bug?
(I'm genuinely curious here... repo corruptions caused by subversion (and not hardware failure) are a *REALLY* big deal and must be squashed.)
How was the olde fart in the GP's post supposed to divine Security's intention?
Moreover, what does Security stand to gain by detaining and berating someone who isn't fooled by their faux security?
Your average retailer is looking at 2% to 5% in shrinkage, every day. You wonder why more and more stores are checking people as they leave?
BDawson exploded your mishandling of the statistic further downthread, so I'll not bother with that.
His linked Wikipedia article mentions that the majority of theft-related shrinkage is caused by the employees!
What's your answer to that, Mr. Smartypants?
Mmm...
This leads to the question:
"Why is tax law so complicated?"
Shouldn't taxation be a clear, easy to understand affair?
Aye. It, along with the ethernet add-on, was an optional extra. Most folks ended up using the HDD to install Linux. : /
A "stock" XBOX doesn't permit you to copy your game disc to the HDD. (Seeing as how the HDDs were ~8GB, I'm not sure that it would have mattered *too* much if it had been permitted.)
OTOH my modified xbox has no problems with this. *Vastly* decreased load times FTW.