P.S. Pussy. Whatever happened to Live free or Die? It's your fearful ilk that hamper progress and allow corrupt governments to control the masses by fear.
I do believe Live Free or Die is on a one on one basis.
ie, you do not get to decide thru YOUR imprudence who may resultantly die. Kinda like, we're all on this planet together, ya know?
I guess they are using a 24hr "block" of radio telescope time... but it was just funny reading it. Like they are going to study them for 24hrs for signs of intelligent life. As if it was their "day length period". lol
Wow, I hope no one ever scans our planet "in the morning" radio talk shows. Not good for first contact, haha.
You know... I've finally adopted the 'use linux as much as possible' mindset... settled on a distro and now they are trying to fuck it up as much as they can.
Bothers me that a good post like yours that actually educates, is missed in the moderation because a typical person wishes to stamp something that will already modded up.
If I get some points in the next few days, I'll come back and bump you if you haven't been already.
Donald Trump and George W Bush are successful and rich, I bet their combined IQ is under 200.
Whoa... whoa... whoa... whoa... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oz0n8N2LL0] {oblig} I can understand taking a potshot at dubya...
But Trump? Have you even read a single thing he's written or coauthored? Do you know what he's done in his life? You might be able to blindly claim that he "isn't smart" but he's one of the most business savvy individuals on the planet. And that requires at least one form of intelligence.
The man has bought a vineyard and a 757 this year. He's been bankrupt how many times now? And he just bought a 757... and you think he's not intelligent? lol
The problem with that... the amount of ACTUAL people that would attempt to claim $xx would be trivial enough as that this would be nothing to them.
What needs to be done: THIS is a Japanese company. We need to go old school and give the dumbasses that incarnated this idea a good dose of "hey, you'll think twice next time".
I mean, there is a point when all other efforts are just wasteful. I could say, toss it in a black hole is th most secures. I would be technically correct, but is it really more secure then throwing it in the sun? or shattering it into 1000's of pieces?
OTOH: technically correct is the best kind of correct~
While I realize a response wasn't necessary... one thing to consider about security is the chain of custody. I think a launch to a black hole would leave a 'small' gap in the chain of custody.
While the fire ideas are valid... I think something could be said for completeness of destruction vs time.
That time would also scale pretty quickly the more cd's you dumped in the fire.
A machine that had 10 x 10 of the electrical "cookers" would be able to do 100 discs in exactly the same time as the 1. Whereas burning, would require a scale of a fuel. Thus a scale in time. Where at some point you would not be able to scale it anymore efficiently.
Of course, this avoids the concept of industrial incinerators... or smelting plants.
I personally think a 1000 of these dropped in a smelt bucket, or dropped in with the slag, would see a timely death of a few seconds.
To which I say - tough titty. That someone who may be suffering financially is guilty of aiding and abetting, even if only by negligence.
I get the vague impression that those replying about the servers going bye-bye... really don't have the slightest clue about how virtual hosting works.
In the late 90s, we had Pentium 100 boxes with HUNDREDS of web sites on them. I'm certain that has scaled a bit now.
So, ONE seized asset, ie, one seized server that may have been compromised will have as my prior analogy... a "city's worth" of potential commerce. And those people depending on that commerce, have no connection whatsoever to the malcontents doing the damage to the server.
And it is on that point that I am saying, the sweeping take down of servers, is way overkill.
I'm still not quite sure why a used game buyer shouldn't be allowed the same benefits as a new game buyer, but in order to come to a resolution a suggestion has to eventually be accepted. This is a descent step to something that is acceptable.
“A few short weeks ago I came to the House floor after having purchased an automotive carriage and said that I happened to believe, Mr. Speaker, that at some point in time this new device, which is now probably responsible for eliminating thousands of American jobs.
Now the Farrier is closing stores because, why do you need to go to the farrier anymore? Why do you need to go to feed stock shop? Buy an auto, drive to church, drive to work, drive to vacation.
Chicago State University, in my congressional district, in freshman class, they are not riding horses any longer. They are all buying autos as they enter school.
Well, what becomes of blacksmiths, stable keeps and horse handlers? Well, in the not too distant future, such jobs simply will not exist.
Henry Ford is doing pretty well. He’s created the assembly line auto.
-AI "I'll be running for office for the 1908 election."
I could make a link using his system which includes the text from the version of the document I look at
(Alternatively, I might choose to link to the latest version.)
Oh, so you'd link to an older version and that version only. Not a bad idea.
Hmm... now if only there was some way of making a backup of the most relevant PART of that document, instead of having to have a copy of the entire original document.
Also note that you said you'd invest or save, so you haven't run out of money in your scenario. You've just stopped spending what you have, to let it make you more money.
Too true, with my investing background, truly pissing away 50 bil would be silly. Still, it would be illiquid assets. =) And they would be darn risky investments!
Asset seizure, both permanent and temporary, is a power granted by both judicial and municipal civil institutions all the fucking time. If you own property on which a crime has been committed, it sucks to be you, but you lose some control over that property while the crime is being investigated. Cities can and do seize and destroy property on grounds of being hazards to the public: environmental, health, criminal, etc. This action is trivially defensible on similar grounds.
Certainly procedures should be established, adhered to, and audited to help ensure this power isn't wielded indiscriminately. But pretending that it has no precedent is either naive or disingenuous.
Don't you think seizing a server is a bit MORE than seizing a car, or a house or just about any "single" thing.
A server is rarely a "single" thing, it's more akin to a city. So, seizing a CITY to catch ONE criminal is a BIT much.
You have to understand, I'm not saying that they were not within rights that they granted themselves. I'm just saying, it's not really fair, just or however you want to term it, to have someone else's stuff taken, when their stuff might be making them a living. It's not their fault their website was hosted on the same server that someone was committing a crime on. But is there really insurance against that?
OMG, the gub'ment is taking down botnet servers illegally controlling millions of PCs!
Seriously, I'm all for hating on government control, but is what they're doing in this instance so egregious?
I suppose you didn't rtfa or the summary?
They seized servers and domain names.
Seized means, they didn't ask permission.
It wouldn't be sensible to ass-u-me that the ONLY thing running on those servers was botnet controls. As well, it wouldn't be the same to assume the domains were specific to the botnet.
ie, someone may be suffering financially for the broad seizure of tangible and intangible items. THAT would be egregious.
What's 10 billion when you already have 50 billion? Still more money than he could spend in his lifetime.
Lol, omfg... ur serious?
I could piss away 50 billion in 3 months. I just sat here and wrote down the first week and I'm already thru 10 billion... and that's not even into the investing portion of the spending spree.
First day... I'm a car nut, so I'd buy every car on my 'list'. First 10 cars burn up over $20 mil. Probably close to $30 mil if I'm doing a "i want it now". Actually, this is an *edit*, while I was thinking about it... just the Ferrari's alone would burn thru $20 million.
The remaining list would soak a half bil easily. And that's just cars.
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P.S. Pussy. Whatever happened to Live free or Die? It's your fearful ilk that hamper progress and allow corrupt governments to control the masses by fear.
I do believe Live Free or Die is on a one on one basis.
ie, you do not get to decide thru YOUR imprudence who may
resultantly die. Kinda like, we're all on this planet together,
ya know?
-AI
Nerd fail! There can be only 21 million Bitcoins, see Wikipedia
On Earth... duh!
SpaceNerd Fail!
-AI
Is that how it works? I was always assuming a LOS across the diagram,
like the ones in the Atacama highlands.
-AI
I guess they are using a 24hr "block" of radio telescope time...
but it was just funny reading it. Like they are going to study
them for 24hrs for signs of intelligent life. As if it was their
"day length period". lol
Wow, I hope no one ever scans our planet "in the morning"
radio talk shows. Not good for first contact, haha.
-AI
Oooh, my nick is relevant again...
You know... I've finally adopted the 'use linux as much
as possible' mindset... settled on a distro and now they
are trying to fuck it up as much as they can.
Bravo.
-AI
Tail wagging the dog?
-AI
You do know what the term sheeple means, right?
-AI
Occam's Razor might disagree and shed the light more evenly on it being a party issue and a run up to a new election.
Bothers me that a good post like yours that actually
educates, is missed in the moderation because a
typical person wishes to stamp something that will
already modded up.
If I get some points in the next few days, I'll come
back and bump you if you haven't been already.
-AI
Donald Trump and George W Bush are successful and rich, I bet their combined IQ is under 200.
Whoa... whoa... whoa... whoa... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oz0n8N2LL0] {oblig}
I can understand taking a potshot at dubya...
But Trump? Have you even read a single thing he's written or
coauthored? Do you know what he's done in his life? You might
be able to blindly claim that he "isn't smart" but he's one of the
most business savvy individuals on the planet. And that requires
at least one form of intelligence.
The man has bought a vineyard and a 757 this year. He's been
bankrupt how many times now? And he just bought a 757...
and you think he's not intelligent? lol
-AI
The problem with that... the amount of ACTUAL
people that would attempt to claim $xx would be
trivial enough as that this would be nothing to them.
What needs to be done:
THIS is a Japanese company. We need to go old
school and give the dumbasses that incarnated this
idea a good dose of "hey, you'll think twice next time".
-AI
Freeze, hit with hammer.
I mean, there is a point when all other efforts are just wasteful. I could say, toss it in a black hole is th most secures. I would be technically correct, but is it really more secure then throwing it in the sun? or shattering it into 1000's of pieces?
OTOH: technically correct is the best kind of correct~
While I realize a response wasn't necessary... one thing to consider about security
is the chain of custody. I think a launch to a black hole would leave a 'small' gap in
the chain of custody.
While the fire ideas are valid... I think something could be said for completeness of
destruction vs time.
That time would also scale pretty quickly the more cd's you dumped in the fire.
A machine that had 10 x 10 of the electrical "cookers" would be able to do 100 discs
in exactly the same time as the 1. Whereas burning, would require a scale of a fuel.
Thus a scale in time. Where at some point you would not be able to scale it anymore
efficiently.
Of course, this avoids the concept of industrial incinerators... or smelting plants.
I personally think a 1000 of these dropped in a smelt bucket, or dropped in with the
slag, would see a timely death of a few seconds.
-AI
Just break the damn things.
You do realize destruction != "secure destruction"
I believe it actually states the MOST SECURE in
the post.
-AI
That... was one of the coolest electricity displays I've seen in a long time.
Ta heck with what it does, lol
-AI
To which I say - tough titty. That someone who may be suffering financially is guilty of aiding and abetting, even if only by negligence.
I get the vague impression that those replying
about the servers going bye-bye... really don't
have the slightest clue about how virtual hosting
works.
In the late 90s, we had Pentium 100 boxes with
HUNDREDS of web sites on them. I'm certain
that has scaled a bit now.
So, ONE seized asset, ie, one seized server
that may have been compromised will have as
my prior analogy... a "city's worth" of potential
commerce. And those people depending on
that commerce, have no connection whatsoever
to the malcontents doing the damage to the
server.
And it is on that point that I am saying, the
sweeping take down of servers, is way overkill.
Literally like carpet bombing from WWII.
-AI
I'm still not quite sure why a used game buyer shouldn't
be allowed the same benefits as a new game buyer,
but in order to come to a resolution a suggestion has
to eventually be accepted. This is a descent step to
something that is acceptable.
-AI
“A few short weeks ago I came to the House floor after having
purchased an automotive carriage and said that I happened to
believe, Mr. Speaker, that at some point in time this new device,
which is now probably responsible for eliminating thousands of
American jobs.
Now the Farrier is closing stores because, why do you need to
go to the farrier anymore? Why do you need to go to feed stock shop?
Buy an auto, drive to church, drive to work, drive to vacation.
Chicago State University, in my congressional district, in freshman
class, they are not riding horses any longer. They are all buying autos
as they enter school.
Well, what becomes of blacksmiths, stable keeps and horse handlers?
Well, in the not too distant future, such jobs simply will not exist.
Henry Ford is doing pretty well. He’s created the assembly line auto.
-AI
"I'll be running for office for the 1908 election."
Continue reading what I wrote:
I could make a link using his system which includes the text from the version of the document I look at
(Alternatively, I might choose to link to the latest version.)
Oh, so you'd link to an older version and that version only.
Not a bad idea.
Hmm... now if only there was some way of making a backup
of the most relevant PART of that document, instead of
having to have a copy of the entire original document.
-AI
This is exactly the sort of thing we need to put a stop to! People enjoying music!
The big music labels already do that quite well enough on their own
Whoooooooooooosh.
Wait, is that copyrighted?
-AI
His bragging was obviously not intended to be a factual statement.
Lol, I don't know if anyone reads real news.
-AI
Hearing this story reminds of a daily bit a local morning radio talk show did, "The Idiot of the Day" but i think he wins "Idiot of the decade"
Sorry lil Timmy, but Santa ain't real!
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/03/09/that-silly-radio-show-listener-calling-in-hes-probably-an-actor/
-AI
Also note that you said you'd invest or save, so you haven't run out of money in your scenario. You've just stopped spending what you have, to let it make you more money.
Too true, with my investing background, truly pissing
away 50 bil would be silly. Still, it would be illiquid
assets. =) And they would be darn risky investments!
lol
-AI
Asset seizure, both permanent and temporary, is a power granted by both judicial and municipal civil institutions all the fucking time. If you own property on which a crime has been committed, it sucks to be you, but you lose some control over that property while the crime is being investigated. Cities can and do seize and destroy property on grounds of being hazards to the public: environmental, health, criminal, etc. This action is trivially defensible on similar grounds.
Certainly procedures should be established, adhered to, and audited to help ensure this power isn't wielded indiscriminately. But pretending that it has no precedent is either naive or disingenuous.
Don't you think seizing a server is a bit MORE than
seizing a car, or a house or just about any "single"
thing.
A server is rarely a "single" thing, it's more akin to
a city. So, seizing a CITY to catch ONE criminal is
a BIT much.
You have to understand, I'm not saying that they
were not within rights that they granted themselves.
I'm just saying, it's not really fair, just or however
you want to term it, to have someone else's stuff
taken, when their stuff might be making them a
living. It's not their fault their website was hosted
on the same server that someone was committing
a crime on. But is there really insurance against
that?
-AI
OMG, the gub'ment is taking down botnet servers illegally controlling millions of PCs!
Seriously, I'm all for hating on government control, but is what they're doing in this instance so egregious?
I suppose you didn't rtfa or the summary?
They seized servers and domain names.
Seized means, they didn't ask permission.
It wouldn't be sensible to ass-u-me that the
ONLY thing running on those servers was
botnet controls. As well, it wouldn't be the
same to assume the domains were specific
to the botnet.
ie, someone may be suffering financially for
the broad seizure of tangible and intangible
items. THAT would be egregious.
-AI
What's 10 billion when you already have 50 billion? Still more money than he could spend in his lifetime.
Lol, omfg... ur serious?
I could piss away 50 billion in 3 months. I just sat here and wrote
down the first week and I'm already thru 10 billion... and that's not
even into the investing portion of the spending spree.
First day... I'm a car nut, so I'd buy every car on my 'list'. First 10
cars burn up over $20 mil. Probably close to $30 mil if I'm doing a
"i want it now". Actually, this is an *edit*, while I was thinking
about it... just the Ferrari's alone would burn thru $20 million.
The remaining list would soak a half bil easily. And that's just cars.
Vehicles... like this one,
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/22/gm-futurliner-rewrites-barrett-jackson-record-books-hammers-to/
I would try to buy, he lives about 10mi away...
http://maps.google.com/?&ll=33.609301,-112.199248&spn=0.001087,0.00182&t=h&z=20
$4 mil, gone...
First day of vehicles could hit $1 billion, pretty easily.
Second day... boats. cmon. another half billion easy.
Third day... planes. Really? 1 Good one, quarter million.
Gotta get the Marine One quality copter, another $241 million.
I guess I could just buy the old one?
http://www.taxpayertreasurehunt.com/index.php/Cancellation_of_Marine_One_Procurement
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/vh-71.htm
http://www.top5pedia.com/Top5%20Military/MostExpensiveAircrafts.html
Then you have to do what most rappers forget to do,
http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/11/nate-dogg-foreclosure-pomona-house-died-dead/
http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2010/06/04/rapper-chamillionaire-ridin-into-foreclosure-on-houston-mansion/
http://www.allmandandlee.com/bankruptcy_blog/bankruptcy-law/even-rapper-jay-z-battles-foreclosure/
set some of that money aside in an interest bearing
or investment grade account to pay for storage of all
that stuff you just bought.
I think I'd run out of money before 45 days... but
90 days is just a comfortable, I'm sure it'd be all gone
by then amount of time.
So, whomever thinks, $50 billion is more than someone
could spend (laughably) in a lifetime... doesn't have a lot
of imagination or desire.
-AI