I would say that at least an order of magnitude greater of computers just run email, browsers, spreadsheets and word processors, that's Intel's market.
The future needs deciding ahead of time. I'm just trying to expose people here to another side of the "fuck Hollywood" way of thinking.
Think of your favourite 5 films. There's at least 300 people trying to make a living from those films. Would our lives be better or worse without them? We just can't make these things on love alone, as much as we'd want to. At my level it already costs me money to participate. The heads of dept. on low budgets films are *already* doing it for the love. We just want to strike it full-time, let alone big, most of us have regular jobs aside from da movies.
Torrenting your movie yourself does not generate revenue.
I'll repeat this again :
Making movies is expensive, even when the people work for free / profit share. There are only so many free locations and you still have to get people and equipment there. We shot our last one in 3 weeks, 90 hours in fact, which is extremely tight. Shot on dv with no 35mm print in the offing. Even with most of the crew on share points only it still cost $30k which is a shoestring, we know plenty of shorts that cost much much more.
So ok, it is by choice. But what is life without trying to do the things you want to do and not polishing your arse for the man.
1. Enough bandwidth to distribute 4gb movies to all comers is not a minimal cost. 2. Where do we get our $120k for making the movie from?
Rock star lifestyles are not on our list of expectations but it is a risky and expensive business. Boo hoo for choosing it but zero day is possibly the most annoying risk. Someone comes along and stole your income potential and the better your film, the more likely it is!
It's not that the only incentive is money, it's that stuff costs money to make. It's not like programming where you just need a $150 terminal and plenty of hours.
Even something as simple as tapes is going to set you back $50 a day.
How many DVDs are going to get duplicated for free?
London to Brighton cost $120k to film. It won the Edinburgh Film Festival New Director's award and a host of other awards. Probably the most sucessful UK independent for 2006.
So that's $320k left to spend after production. I have no idea what the marketing & distributing costs are but that's not a lot to go round. The actors & crew will also be on profit share points for that.
You can hardly call DVD rips from mobile phone cameras an advance in quality over the all digital HD cinema I work in.
It's $11 for a meal and a film.
You want Blue-Ray too, well that's another $30k to the cost of making the film into Sony's pocket.
I don't know where you live but you have a strange idea of what makes up an average person (or perhaps I do!) if that includes a 50" plasma and all the shizzle.
So... as well as making films you want us to build cinemas too! But you'll only come if you can pause the film!
> If a pirated movie is going to give me a better experience then going to the theater, the choice for an informed consumer is obvious.
This is such a childish response, beeing a leech on society because you can't get your own way is the obvious choice? Here's an idea, stop being a consumer and start being a citizen.
Because I don't enjoy the shopping experience is no excuse to go shoplifting.
Filmmaking is a risky business already without the risk of your film going zero fucking day.
Back in the day, many purchasers demanded that manufacturers of electronics had a secound source of components so you wouldn't get stuck with a product line you could no longer build. AMD was Intel's second source provider. This agreement went to court http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EKF/is_n1961_v39/ai_13734404 and the result was a forced agreement that meant AMD had access to Intel intel.
I do not have iTunes or Quicktime installed on my computer because apparently Windows 2000 is not shiny enough for watching mov files./me thinks it is drm related
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I would say that at least an order of magnitude greater of computers just run email, browsers, spreadsheets and word processors, that's Intel's market.
no apologies required :)
The future needs deciding ahead of time. I'm just trying to expose people here to another side of the "fuck Hollywood" way of thinking.
Think of your favourite 5 films. There's at least 300 people trying to make a living from those films. Would our lives be better or worse without them? We just can't make these things on love alone, as much as we'd want to. At my level it already costs me money to participate. The heads of dept. on low budgets films are *already* doing it for the love. We just want to strike it full-time, let alone big, most of us have regular jobs aside from da movies.
Torrenting your movie yourself does not generate revenue.
I'll repeat this again :
Making movies is expensive, even when the people work for free / profit share. There are only so many free locations and you still have to get people and equipment there. We shot our last one in 3 weeks, 90 hours in fact, which is extremely tight. Shot on dv with no 35mm print in the offing. Even with most of the crew on share points only it still cost $30k which is a shoestring, we know plenty of shorts that cost much much more.
So ok, it is by choice. But what is life without trying to do the things you want to do and not polishing your arse for the man.
1. Enough bandwidth to distribute 4gb movies to all comers is not a minimal cost.
2. Where do we get our $120k for making the movie from?
Rock star lifestyles are not on our list of expectations but it is a risky and expensive business. Boo hoo for choosing it but zero day is possibly the most annoying risk. Someone comes along and stole your income potential and the better your film, the more likely it is!
I was on the beta, though I didn't remember them being so close together.
The Microsoft Live shop
Well I can't argue in favour of 100 year copyrights. So we're all being f'd in the A
It's not that the only incentive is money, it's that stuff costs money to make. It's not like programming where you just need a $150 terminal and plenty of hours.
Even something as simple as tapes is going to set you back $50 a day.
How many DVDs are going to get duplicated for free?
So now .torrents are moral acts?
How to square this.
London to Brighton cost $120k to film. It won the Edinburgh Film Festival New Director's award and a host of other awards. Probably the most sucessful UK independent for 2006.
It grossed $442,981 worldwide. tbh I don't know what that means in net terms.
So that's $320k left to spend after production. I have no idea what the marketing & distributing costs are but that's not a lot to go round. The actors & crew will also be on profit share points for that.
Here's your chance to stick it to the man
Demand destruction is also incentive destruction.
How does any of that square up with putting $150k into making a film and having it zero day on TPB?
All many artists are looking for is a fair exchange of goods. P2P rips are blatantly unfair.
You can hardly call DVD rips from mobile phone cameras an advance in quality over the all digital HD cinema I work in.
It's $11 for a meal and a film.
You want Blue-Ray too, well that's another $30k to the cost of making the film into Sony's pocket.
I don't know where you live but you have a strange idea of what makes up an average person (or perhaps I do!) if that includes a 50" plasma and all the shizzle.
So... as well as making films you want us to build cinemas too! But you'll only come if you can pause the film!
> If a pirated movie is going to give me a better experience then going to the theater, the choice for an informed consumer is obvious.
This is such a childish response, beeing a leech on society because you can't get your own way is the obvious choice? Here's an idea, stop being a consumer and start being a citizen.
Because I don't enjoy the shopping experience is no excuse to go shoplifting.
Filmmaking is a risky business already without the risk of your film going zero fucking day.
Amusingly they posted the strapline for "Gottfrid Svartholm" with ThePirateBay.org underneath.
While I think 90 years is far too long, how long should we get to recoup the $200k a low budget feature film costs to make?
Would TPB not post trackers for the first 5 years of a film's release?
How long do you wait until you d/l it instead of recipricating our efforts?
Would be the month WoW came out. I lost most of my EQ2 buddies to WoW.
I read the comments and now I'm stupider than when I started.
Photoshop has moved on since 3.0 you know.
I don't remember posting this. Well done !
Where intensive == booting windows and running Norton AV
The XBox division made around $500 million profit in 2008.
I was amused at myself for that one, but honestly it came out as I typed!
Back in the day, many purchasers demanded that manufacturers of electronics had a secound source of components so you wouldn't get stuck with a product line you could no longer build. AMD was Intel's second source provider. This agreement went to court http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EKF/is_n1961_v39/ai_13734404 and the result was a forced agreement that meant AMD had access to Intel intel.
chmod 444 $updater
I do not have iTunes or Quicktime installed on my computer because apparently Windows 2000 is not shiny enough for watching mov files. /me thinks it is drm related
nah, some should be 30+