MacOS was already better than anything that Microsoft had 15 years ago.
This is not a problem of "quality". If it were, then a sad command line that requires manual memory management would have taken over the entire market and destroyed all rivals.
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM was better.
At least AT&T & IBM were competent.
People get cranky when they're forced to use total shit and know that better stuff is possible.
Your accusations are rather ironic from someone posting total mindless FUD.
This is the kind of crap that keeps legacy DOS users latched onto Windows and afraid of their own shadow. It allowed a single abusive and INCOMPETENT monopoly to have a stranglehold over an entire industry for decades.
Fortunately thanks to the "crap", some diversity is coming to the computing industry again. No one fears Microsoft anymore because they are toothless. It's Linux that did that.
Microsoft finally encountered something that couldn't be bought out or destroyed using their usual dirty tricks.
By your twisted logic, there should be some Mono apps out there that can wipe the floor with their low quality Linux counterparts. There should be more than enough compelling examples to point to. There should be ample reasons for a Linux user to sell their soul.
Yet we never hear about them.
That alleged cross platform support probably isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
Let them warm up to it on their own rather than trying to force it down their throats and they will take to the classics just fine.
"Trendiness" isn't a real issue either way.
The first game a random person is likely to mention today is just an overwrought iteration of something that you may have played on the 2600. Tech isn't nearly as "new" as some people like to pretend it is. Some ideas continue to resurface over and over again because they're timeless and have more do do with how the wetware is wired than the hardware.
> > Go outside and play, and don't come back in until dark > > Thats all it takes, its not even a little bit hard,
That's not the hard part. The hard part is the fact that they will be completely alone in what looks like a ghost town. They won't have anyone to play with and adults will be lingering around acting as possible witnesses to any potential wrongdoing.
Apple is a terrorist asking for the suspension of basic civil liberties just to suit their own bottom line. If there are other devices that "infringe on their rights", they need to go through the complete process to ban those. They should not get a free pass on due process. If they want to be anti-competitive jackasses, they need to follow the rule of law while doing it.
> Oh and speaking of thermals what the hell is a safe operating region?
It's something that ALL electronics require in order to not cook themselves. Apple fanboys may delight in their own ignorance but many of us prefer not to.
The new Mac Pro is just a PC that's trying really hard to behave like an 8-bit Atari. Beyond the nonsense with lack of memory or upgrade slots, it's just a PC with mundane components.
Want to replicate any Mac? Just go to NewEgg.
You don't even have to be exact. You can come up with a BETTER tradeoff. You're not just stuck with Apple's choices. That's the beauty of the PC market.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MATCH THE MAC SPEC FOR SPEC.
You can dump things you don't want, or use better parts, or use a different brand of GPU.
> If you cannot installatie a modern version of Windows in onder 30 minuten these days I would consider you top dumb to be even let naar a computer.
My last Win7 install was ugly. NOTHING was auto detected by the installer. The wired NIC wasn't even supported. Sorting out drivers was a pain and auto update was absolutely no help.
If you don't plan for the worst, you're just asking for trouble.
No. The real thing that scares the n00bs is all of this scaremongering.
"OH noes! Don't do X! You'll end the world!"
The rubes are so scared of their own shadows that they're afraid to do anything meaningful in any UI, GUIs included. GUIs are supposed to enable exploration but this is not something that's ever going to happen.
Only the "geeks" will bother to explore anything because the rubes are all afraid of their own shadows.
Apple and it's fanboys will only acknowledge the Unix underpinnings of MacOS when they need a marketing bulletpoint or want to win a pointless argument with a total stranger.
Beyond that, MacOS is all about it's own thing completely separate and distinct from all of the other Unixen. It has always been it's own thing, even before the bolted all of the visible parts onto something else.
If you care about the Unix-y bits, you are just as likely to be completely unimpressed by the rest.
Cygwin is GNU bolted onto Windows. So it has it's own quirks. While it's better than all of the alternatives if you're being forced to run on an NT machine, it's no replacement for the real thing.
GUIs tend to suck at automation because all GUIs tend to assume that end users are blithering morons.
The problem with a GUI is that there may not be a "fully functional interface". It may simply not exist yet. Creating one by stringing together tools in a good shell is a lot easier and quicker than building a full blown GUI app.
Do more than one of something then a command line or programming environment will likely benefit you if you aren't interested in endless busy work.
I had packages delayed by the unusual weather. However, I did not despair or immediately go to social media to "vent". I realize that it sucks to be a delivery guy during Snowmageddon.
> Other than network transparency, what exactly of value does X do that Wayland doesn't?
How about multiple displays? This is a handy feature for when one of your apps (Steam) like to take over your entire screen.
Wayland either needs to support the old way of doing things or have a new way of doing things that's a suitable replacement. Sandboxing apps written by developers with a single user OS mindset would not be a bad genuine "killer feature".
"Gets rid of that vile thing called X" is not a killer feature.
The gaming market is already moving away from Windows and thus DirectX. There was a time when trying to emulate Windows was the most relevant approach but that time has passed already.
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> you're obviously not a fan of high performance desktop graphics then, keep your shitty x protocol,
It's not the protocol. It's the drivers.
And I WILL keep the best available drivers thank-you-very-much.
That's why I won't touch Wayland with a 10 foot barge pole. I actually care about real performance, not just silly out of of date FUD.
One arbitrarily defined standard imposed by beaurocrats is just as good as another.
MacOS was already better than anything that Microsoft had 15 years ago.
This is not a problem of "quality". If it were, then a sad command line that requires manual memory management would have taken over the entire market and destroyed all rivals.
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM was better.
At least AT&T & IBM were competent.
People get cranky when they're forced to use total shit and know that better stuff is possible.
Your accusations are rather ironic from someone posting total mindless FUD.
This is the kind of crap that keeps legacy DOS users latched onto Windows and afraid of their own shadow. It allowed a single abusive and INCOMPETENT monopoly to have a stranglehold over an entire industry for decades.
Fortunately thanks to the "crap", some diversity is coming to the computing industry again. No one fears Microsoft anymore because they are toothless. It's Linux that did that.
Microsoft finally encountered something that couldn't be bought out or destroyed using their usual dirty tricks.
By your twisted logic, there should be some Mono apps out there that can wipe the floor with their low quality Linux counterparts. There should be more than enough compelling examples to point to. There should be ample reasons for a Linux user to sell their soul.
Yet we never hear about them.
That alleged cross platform support probably isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
Let them warm up to it on their own rather than trying to force it down their throats and they will take to the classics just fine.
"Trendiness" isn't a real issue either way.
The first game a random person is likely to mention today is just an overwrought iteration of something that you may have played on the 2600. Tech isn't nearly as "new" as some people like to pretend it is. Some ideas continue to resurface over and over again because they're timeless and have more do do with how the wetware is wired than the hardware.
> > Go outside and play, and don't come back in until dark
>
> Thats all it takes, its not even a little bit hard,
That's not the hard part. The hard part is the fact that they will be completely alone in what looks like a ghost town. They won't have anyone to play with and adults will be lingering around acting as possible witnesses to any potential wrongdoing.
It's not 1975 anymore.
Apple is a terrorist asking for the suspension of basic civil liberties just to suit their own bottom line. If there are other devices that "infringe on their rights", they need to go through the complete process to ban those. They should not get a free pass on due process. If they want to be anti-competitive jackasses, they need to follow the rule of law while doing it.
There is no T in borsch.
...or you can just have a bogus Facebook account.
Some people already have a "public face" and a "private face" because they distrust the inherently exhibitionist nature of social media.
> Oh and speaking of thermals what the hell is a safe operating region?
It's something that ALL electronics require in order to not cook themselves. Apple fanboys may delight in their own ignorance but many of us prefer not to.
The new Mac Pro is just a PC that's trying really hard to behave like an 8-bit Atari. Beyond the nonsense with lack of memory or upgrade slots, it's just a PC with mundane components.
Want to replicate any Mac? Just go to NewEgg.
You don't even have to be exact. You can come up with a BETTER tradeoff. You're not just stuck with Apple's choices. That's the beauty of the PC market.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MATCH THE MAC SPEC FOR SPEC.
You can dump things you don't want, or use better parts, or use a different brand of GPU.
> If you cannot installatie a modern version of Windows in onder 30 minuten these days I would consider you top dumb to be even let naar a computer.
My last Win7 install was ugly. NOTHING was auto detected by the installer. The wired NIC wasn't even supported. Sorting out drivers was a pain and auto update was absolutely no help.
If you don't plan for the worst, you're just asking for trouble.
No. The real thing that scares the n00bs is all of this scaremongering.
"OH noes! Don't do X! You'll end the world!"
The rubes are so scared of their own shadows that they're afraid to do anything meaningful in any UI, GUIs included. GUIs are supposed to enable exploration but this is not something that's ever going to happen.
Only the "geeks" will bother to explore anything because the rubes are all afraid of their own shadows.
The shiny shiny is just a distraction.
Apple and it's fanboys will only acknowledge the Unix underpinnings of MacOS when they need a marketing bulletpoint or want to win a pointless argument with a total stranger.
Beyond that, MacOS is all about it's own thing completely separate and distinct from all of the other Unixen. It has always been it's own thing, even before the bolted all of the visible parts onto something else.
If you care about the Unix-y bits, you are just as likely to be completely unimpressed by the rest.
Cygwin is GNU bolted onto Windows. So it has it's own quirks. While it's better than all of the alternatives if you're being forced to run on an NT machine, it's no replacement for the real thing.
Powershell looks like a bunch of C programmers got let out of the asylum and were allowed to run amok. It kind of misses the point.
GUIs tend to suck at automation because all GUIs tend to assume that end users are blithering morons.
The problem with a GUI is that there may not be a "fully functional interface". It may simply not exist yet. Creating one by stringing together tools in a good shell is a lot easier and quicker than building a full blown GUI app.
Do more than one of something then a command line or programming environment will likely benefit you if you aren't interested in endless busy work.
Many places don't expect "winter weather" in winter and are ill equipped to handle it when it actually happens.
Pretty much the bottom half of the country...
I had packages delayed by the unusual weather. However, I did not despair or immediately go to social media to "vent". I realize that it sucks to be a delivery guy during Snowmageddon.
The kicker was the guy driving the golf cart.
That one made me feel a little guilty.
> Other than network transparency, what exactly of value does X do that Wayland doesn't?
How about multiple displays? This is a handy feature for when one of your apps (Steam) like to take over your entire screen.
Wayland either needs to support the old way of doing things or have a new way of doing things that's a suitable replacement. Sandboxing apps written by developers with a single user OS mindset would not be a bad genuine "killer feature".
"Gets rid of that vile thing called X" is not a killer feature.
The gaming market is already moving away from Windows and thus DirectX. There was a time when trying to emulate Windows was the most relevant approach but that time has passed already.
Yet somehow companies like Oracle manage it.
It's just like all of Adobe's whining about audio libraries.
Some people just take care of business while others do nothing but make excuses.
> I challenge anyone to create a website that conforms to such a huge number of rules -- some of them probably contradictory!
Sounds like any other regulatory burden. Are the things at Amazon FCC approved? Are they UL listed? Do they pass muster by the USDA?
All of that stuff is outside the scope of the website and it should be the case for Obamacare too.
Your kind of thinking is why it was such a disaster and why 3 guys managed to throw together a window shopping frontend with little effort.
> Coming from a known Linux fanboi? Nothing you say can sway me. Why not tell us again why GIMP is just as good as Photoshop too...
The main problem with Photoshop is that a poser like you doesn't have the money to spend on it.
Like I said. Keep on repeating the excuses you need to tell yourself. Never lose faith with your chosen brand. Never question it.
That's the best way to ensure it will always serve you well.
It reminds me of the old days before DIMMs when DRAM chips were soldered right onto the motherboard.