> By contrast, I don't use Linux at home, because life is short and I'd rather just use a Mac...
The advantages of a Mac here are grossly overblown. On the other hand, you have to put up with that ridiculously limited hardware choices available from Apple. They even put a stake in the heart of their workstation line.
My own machine is like the trashcan but without the lameness.
Schools and small businesses are moving away from Microsoft office products. That's a total 90s argument. Adobe software is probably inferior to everything else that's available on a Mac if that's your thing.
The fact that Macs run "Windows software" is probably the worst argument for buying a Mac.
Mac support for hardware is limited. You're stuck in the same quandry as anyone else that doesn't run Windows. You should verify first before buying.
That only works until the first time they want to install software or hardware. Then they're back to their local "free tech support guru". Even something as stupid as installing a printer will get you hit up for free tech support.
I've had the same kinds of problems with "strange USB devices" on Windows. I've actually gotten spoiled by how well Linux works with USB devices and dealing with Windows is often a jarring reality check.
Yet you present no real argument. You just engage in a lot of unsupported claims and insults. Linux desktops and applications use a lot of the same GUI basic elements. ALL of the desktop platforms use "easy to discover" interfaces.
The biggest problem many people may have is that they are simply used to something in particular.
Ribbon pissed a lot of people off. So did Windows 8. Some of the peculiarities in MacOS alienate Windows users.
This isn't about some strange caricature that exists mainly in your head.
What moronic nonsense. There is not ONE thing in that post that warranted your reply. The fact that shit just works for a lot of people is just something trolls can't handle.
It's not 1995 any more. The "steep learning curve" is overblown. It's really no worse than it would be for anything. That includes strange new versions of Windows.
When things go wrong, they are equally ugly on all three platforms.
> dorky vehicles really is a terrible price to pay to not warm our planet past a civilization bearing threshold.
They just don't look bad. They handle poorly and are dangerous to drive. Merging with and avoiding commercial vehicles will still be a problem even if you neuter all of the consumer vehicles.
The law or the "media narrative". There's a big difference.
Even before the election you could be pretty much certain any situation you had personal knowledge of was vastly different than how it was being portrayed in the media. Different sources usually present different pieces of the "puzzle" or contradict each other. Sometimes the same source will contradict itself.
You don't even have to be the "boot on the ground" to find the nonsense.
>> for our great education, welfare, and healthcare systems > > Bwahhahahaha, oh man, good one. You almost had me there playing it all straight face then dropping in a zinger like that.
My city has more and better healthcare facilities than all of Germany or France. Forget about the nordic socialist utopias.
Heads of state, nobility, and even random Iranians don't go to Paris or Berlin when they want something done right.
Our welfare system isn't exactly "world class" but it still attracts and supports a fair number of layabouts.
Your own butt hurt, ideological blindness, and utter lack of personal responsibility will ensure you're not prepared for the next election. Will you continue to screech about conspiracy theories then too?
> Using it for reboot is fine. > > The stupidity in question is using the three finger salute for login/unlock. > > If someone suggested that at Apple, what do you think Jobs reaction would be?
We must avoid it because it's something people are already familiar with. Overloading a known key combination for a similar operation is not bad UI design really.
Linux uses a distinctive set of interrupt keys. Do you know ANY one of them? I've used Linux for more than 20 years and if I actually wanted to use one of them I would be hampered by the fact that they are simply unfamiliar.
> He wasn't the one to introduce deliberate incompatibility. In fact he probably pushed us closer to widespread compatibility through the wide spread acceptance of the M$ OS's. Before he came along every OEM had their own custom OS
CP/M
HELL, DOS was really nothing but a dodgey CP/M knockoff anways.
>> The computers should have had a true reset button instead, but not on the keyboard. > > Have you ever looked - they did. Or rather they do - all mine have.
They do now, 30 years later. Not then.
Back then you had a real power switch, not a "I will eventually think about cutting the power" switch. With modern machines, you have to cut power at the wall socket (or pull the battery) to make sure a machine is really powered down.
> No, I'm thinking of Copyright. You will find it troublesome if you draw your own version of Steamboat Willy and try to publish it. Even though it's not an exact copy.
That sounds like an episode of Futurama that's still out there in the while being shown on TV and published in box sets despite the obvious "similaries".
> 1. SSD's were REALLY expensive (and "wearout" was a real concern) five or so years ago, when Apple came up with the idea of Fusion Drives
You have a part that you are unsure about so of course the logical thing is to pair it with a more reliable component. You should be pretty much expecting the combined item to fail in short order.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Since when is Apple a "cheap skate" brand. I have a laptop with hybrid drive that's nearly 5 years old. I was tempted to go SSD but I'm a terrible cheapskate.
> Because the OS manages all this behind the scenes
Since this is an Apple black box they don't have to do any strange shenanigans with standard hardware. They don't have to "hack" the fusion drive. They can just use two drives as one.
This is trivial because they control both the hardware and software. They don't have to engage in any hacks.
Two drives would allow them to better optimize the entire process both for performance and cost.
>> I for one am curious what the bug is that would affect fusion drives but not pure flash storage. Especially since the bug apparently wasn't caught until very late within the beta process. > > It's not a "Bug". The focus on APFS Optimizations so far have been on SSD/Flash storage; not Spinning Rust nor Hybrid (Fusion) Drives. That will come later.
Yeah... "it's not a bug, it's a feature".
As usual, Macs are only suitable for a certain class of highly pedestrian user and only if you don't "use them too hard".
Apple's tendency to pretend that it lives 10 years in the future comes to bit it (and it's users) in the butt again.
If all of the propaganda about solar being cheap is not total bullshit, then the market again will sort all of this out. Daddy Warbucks doesn't want to pay more for something than he has to. He's no different than anyone else in this. If anything he is MORE pragmatic and not prone to conspicuous consumption nonsense.
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> By contrast, I don't use Linux at home, because life is short and I'd rather just use a Mac...
The advantages of a Mac here are grossly overblown. On the other hand, you have to put up with that ridiculously limited hardware choices available from Apple. They even put a stake in the heart of their workstation line.
My own machine is like the trashcan but without the lameness.
None of those brand names are terribly relevant.
Schools and small businesses are moving away from Microsoft office products. That's a total 90s argument. Adobe software is probably inferior to everything else that's available on a Mac if that's your thing.
The fact that Macs run "Windows software" is probably the worst argument for buying a Mac.
Mac support for hardware is limited. You're stuck in the same quandry as anyone else that doesn't run Windows. You should verify first before buying.
You mean I can't install something from the "app store" and run it?
It's actually easier to do that on Linux. Both iPhones and Android are modeled after the way Linux does it.
That only works until the first time they want to install software or hardware. Then they're back to their local "free tech support guru". Even something as stupid as installing a printer will get you hit up for free tech support.
Plus you can buy pre-installed Linux boxes now.
I've had the same kinds of problems with "strange USB devices" on Windows. I've actually gotten spoiled by how well Linux works with USB devices and dealing with Windows is often a jarring reality check.
Don't pretend Windows doesn't have it's problems.
Yet you present no real argument. You just engage in a lot of unsupported claims and insults. Linux desktops and applications use a lot of the same GUI basic elements. ALL of the desktop platforms use "easy to discover" interfaces.
The biggest problem many people may have is that they are simply used to something in particular.
Ribbon pissed a lot of people off. So did Windows 8. Some of the peculiarities in MacOS alienate Windows users.
This isn't about some strange caricature that exists mainly in your head.
What moronic nonsense. There is not ONE thing in that post that warranted your reply. The fact that shit just works for a lot of people is just something trolls can't handle.
It's not 1995 any more. The "steep learning curve" is overblown. It's really no worse than it would be for anything. That includes strange new versions of Windows.
When things go wrong, they are equally ugly on all three platforms.
> dorky vehicles really is a terrible price to pay to not warm our planet past a civilization bearing threshold.
They just don't look bad. They handle poorly and are dangerous to drive. Merging with and avoiding commercial vehicles will still be a problem even if you neuter all of the consumer vehicles.
The law or the "media narrative". There's a big difference.
Even before the election you could be pretty much certain any situation you had personal knowledge of was vastly different than how it was being portrayed in the media. Different sources usually present different pieces of the "puzzle" or contradict each other. Sometimes the same source will contradict itself.
You don't even have to be the "boot on the ground" to find the nonsense.
>> for our great education, welfare, and healthcare systems
>
> Bwahhahahaha, oh man, good one. You almost had me there playing it all straight face then dropping in a zinger like that.
My city has more and better healthcare facilities than all of Germany or France. Forget about the nordic socialist utopias.
Heads of state, nobility, and even random Iranians don't go to Paris or Berlin when they want something done right.
Our welfare system isn't exactly "world class" but it still attracts and supports a fair number of layabouts.
> why would you even want to be a citizen ?
If you aren't a citizen, it's pretty much open season on you at the border. Or haven't you been paying to the liberal narrative for the last year?
If you want to live some place, it's a good idea to have full status in whatever that place is. This idea doesn't just apply to the US.
> You speak like there are lots of examples.
You can have your citizenship revoked if later it was found out that you engaged in fraud or are the member of some terrorist group.
> Not to mention a whole group of people being demoted to second (or third) class citizens... by homeland security
Except they aren't citizens and never had equal status. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Your own butt hurt, ideological blindness, and utter lack of personal responsibility will ensure you're not prepared for the next election. Will you continue to screech about conspiracy theories then too?
Those home made gun powder ingredients on Amazon sound like something that that should also be displayed with a Gorn action figure.
> Using it for reboot is fine.
>
> The stupidity in question is using the three finger salute for login/unlock.
>
> If someone suggested that at Apple, what do you think Jobs reaction would be?
We must avoid it because it's something people are already familiar with. Overloading a known key combination for a similar operation is not bad UI design really.
Linux uses a distinctive set of interrupt keys. Do you know ANY one of them? I've used Linux for more than 20 years and if I actually wanted to use one of them I would be hampered by the fact that they are simply unfamiliar.
> He wasn't the one to introduce deliberate incompatibility. In fact he probably pushed us closer to widespread compatibility through the wide spread acceptance of the M$ OS's. Before he came along every OEM had their own custom OS
CP/M
HELL, DOS was really nothing but a dodgey CP/M knockoff anways.
>> The computers should have had a true reset button instead, but not on the keyboard.
>
> Have you ever looked - they did. Or rather they do - all mine have.
They do now, 30 years later. Not then.
Back then you had a real power switch, not a "I will eventually think about cutting the power" switch. With modern machines, you have to cut power at the wall socket (or pull the battery) to make sure a machine is really powered down.
> No, I'm thinking of Copyright. You will find it troublesome if you draw your own version of Steamboat Willy and try to publish it. Even though it's not an exact copy.
That sounds like an episode of Futurama that's still out there in the while being shown on TV and published in box sets despite the obvious "similaries".
> if I freehand copy an X-Men comic book that doesn't give me copyright to it.
At least half of each major publishers characters are shameless knock offs of the others.
> 1. SSD's were REALLY expensive (and "wearout" was a real concern) five or so years ago, when Apple came up with the idea of Fusion Drives
You have a part that you are unsure about so of course the logical thing is to pair it with a more reliable component. You should be pretty much expecting the combined item to fail in short order.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Since when is Apple a "cheap skate" brand. I have a laptop with hybrid drive that's nearly 5 years old. I was tempted to go SSD but I'm a terrible cheapskate.
What's Apple's excuse?
> Because the OS manages all this behind the scenes
Since this is an Apple black box they don't have to do any strange shenanigans with standard hardware. They don't have to "hack" the fusion drive. They can just use two drives as one.
This is trivial because they control both the hardware and software. They don't have to engage in any hacks.
Two drives would allow them to better optimize the entire process both for performance and cost.
Except that was a piss poor engineering choice. This mess goes to prove it. They took a device that was designed to be a black box and messed that up.
They shot their own foot with that nonsense.
They overcomplicated a situation that didn't need to be.
>> I for one am curious what the bug is that would affect fusion drives but not pure flash storage. Especially since the bug apparently wasn't caught until very late within the beta process.
>
> It's not a "Bug". The focus on APFS Optimizations so far have been on SSD/Flash storage; not Spinning Rust nor Hybrid (Fusion) Drives. That will come later.
Yeah... "it's not a bug, it's a feature".
As usual, Macs are only suitable for a certain class of highly pedestrian user and only if you don't "use them too hard".
Apple's tendency to pretend that it lives 10 years in the future comes to bit it (and it's users) in the butt again.
If all of the propaganda about solar being cheap is not total bullshit, then the market again will sort all of this out. Daddy Warbucks doesn't want to pay more for something than he has to. He's no different than anyone else in this. If anything he is MORE pragmatic and not prone to conspicuous consumption nonsense.