It's fascinating that so-called IT geeks and professionals can get so religious about this stuff. Any kind of system can use a variety of tools and technologies as are appropriate.
Right tool for the job and all of that.
My boot drive is a 1TB SSD. Cost a pretty penny too but it's useful. That doesn't mean I ignore spinning rust for the bulky stuff or portability.
> Who needs local storage beyond the OS and apps in this day and age when anyone can store their data on the cloud
Anyone that wants it in a timely fashion.
Cloud storage absolutely SUCKS for performance because performance of the network sucks. That's not even getting into the reliability, portability, and cost issues.
Even local gigibit NAS storage is hopelessly out of date in terms of performance.
I don't think that was what the OP was getting at. It sounds like they were suggesting putting multiple backups on the same media and that is a VERY BAD idea. The real advantage of spinning rust right now is that it is CHEAP.
You can buy several external spinny drives for the cost of a single SSD. That means multiple physical copies of your backups.
Once you are getting into backups or a NAS, the speed advantage of SSD doesn't matter so much anymore.
The further away from the CPU the storage is, the slower it can be. If consumer tape drives were a thing, those would work too. Although the quality of consumer tape was always pants.
I'm surprised the eurotrash wannabes aren't pointing to Europe as the example here. Much like the old land line phone monopolies, European ISP cable owners have to share with competitors.
Eliminate the natural physical monopoly and you solve the underlying problem. You solve "net neutrality" too.
It must make too much sense. (or else the Trump haters would be bringing this up themselves)
Sure. And the planted Hillary too so that she would be hated as first lady so badly that people still hate her 20 years later when the DNC handed her the nomination.
Watch what for yourself? Seeing it go up does not prove that it came down safely. For you to verify that yourself, you would probably have to put yourself at considerable risk. Seeing the LANDING for yourself, that would be something. That would prove something. Trying to witness that might also get you killed.
Thus the basic problem here.
If you didn't see it for yourself, you can't trust dick any more. We can alter video in real time and do all sorts of nonsense with. You can't even trust live video any more.
No. The only thing that matters is that the customer was made right. He got his "eye" in the real biblical sense of the term. Nothing else really matters at that point.
If Amazon took a loss then that's part of their cost of doing business. They choose to care about their reputation and bear the costs of protecting it.
Your "envy" at someone gaining when they "shouldn't have" really isn't terribly relevant.
Yeah, it sounds nice but it's like rainbow unicorn ponies. It's a myth. The problem with capitalism is humanity. You can't impose some sort of alternative "monopoly" without having all of the problems the "evils of capitalism".
If anything, things will be worse due to the failures of centralization, the inability of all systems to scale, and the vulnerability of human systems to corruption.
Capitalism suffers when it gets too centralized. None of the proposed alternatives avoid this. They typically embrace it instead.
"I burned my hand on the stove. Why don't I set the rest of myself on fire."
Plenty of businesses have ditched Microsoft's particular brand of spreadsheet and word processor. There is nothing special about either. Microsoft didn't invent either one or even make a terribly good one.
The idea that you "need" their brand of a 30 year old solved problem is support for the basic destructiveness of the modern corporation.
He might be but I'm not. I have first hand experience with a corporation that chose to pollute and take the fine rather than do the right thing. It was cheaper for them to just pay the fine.
What can you really expect. We haven't held corporations to civilized standards for DECADES. We expect and encourage them to SCREW EVERYONE except the almighty stockholder. This isn't just a matter of shareholder lawsuits, it's a prevailing cultural expectation.
THAT ship sailed a long time ago and it shows no sign of coming back into port.
These days you pretty much have to threaten a lawsuit just to get them to do what they promised or what they're expected to do by law.
If it's 14 years old then it's not a "new" company anymore. There are car companies that have come and gone in the space of 14 years.
If they've really been around that long, it's time for them to get their act together already. They're like a pre-Ford boutique manufacturer at this point.They need to get past that already.
....and if you leave it to state we will all be forced to use total crap. We will be forced into tiny crap cars we don't fit in, that are unsafe to drive due to being underpowered, and have crap range.
The current options all SUCK.
Being forced to buy stuff that sucks is hardly a convincing case for government intrusiveness.
EVs are cheap crap. They are the modern equivalent of cheap crappy ICE econoboxes. They are a menace to the driver. This is more important to some of us than whether or not we think we're "saving a buck".
Not everything is about being a mindless cheapskate.
For some things quality matters. (Actually it should matter all the time but that's a different flame fest)
> There's always this group of folks who get too religious about Linux and feel like,
Nope. Too busy with Steam to care...
It's really the trolls that care any more. The haters need to hate. It's more of an addiction with them than us. The zealots have moved on.
People forget about how proprietary software was in the 90s. The web destroyed all of that. A lot of the piddly little apps you would need to run on Windows are just web pages now.
> That's fine. You keep sharing, and large commercial devs will keep producing for Windows and the Mac, and your "year of the linux desktop" will keep retreating into the future.
Seriously? Where are you posting from 1995? Linux has been running expensive commercial software for about 20 years. It's been the reference platform for Oracle for nearly that long.
It's not just something that big companies "merely tolerate" but something they prefer.
The unhinged detached from all reality insanity of your post simply boggles the mind.
Windows software companies care about market share. That's why they ever pay any attention to Macs. That's also why they STOPPED paying attention to Macs before.
It has nothing to do with this "blast from the past" viral nonsense.
There are some real dinosaurs posting in here. I'm surprised I'm the one in the position to say that.
Your entire argument is MORONIC. The lesser version of the GPL does NOTHING to dissuade commercial developers. If anything, it accelerates their work on alternate platforms like game consoles. That was a thing even before the "Year of Linux" was a thing.
People who charge more for their software than the cost of your physical dwelling have no problem with the GPL and have been fine with it for a very long time.
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It's almost like it's a non-trivial problem that exists in many distinct forms for every tissue present in the human body.
Yup. You read that right.
Although we all die sooner or later. The only question is how long we can put off our date with the reaper.
It's fascinating that so-called IT geeks and professionals can get so religious about this stuff. Any kind of system can use a variety of tools and technologies as are appropriate.
Right tool for the job and all of that.
My boot drive is a 1TB SSD. Cost a pretty penny too but it's useful. That doesn't mean I ignore spinning rust for the bulky stuff or portability.
> Above 1 TB only geeks and IT companies care.
So only "geeks" do home video? You sound like fan of that company that wanted to "enable" people but really only seek to limit them terribly now.
Just my games take up 400G and I'm not even a Windows user.
> Who needs local storage beyond the OS and apps in this day and age when anyone can store their data on the cloud
Anyone that wants it in a timely fashion.
Cloud storage absolutely SUCKS for performance because performance of the network sucks. That's not even getting into the reliability, portability, and cost issues.
Even local gigibit NAS storage is hopelessly out of date in terms of performance.
I don't think that was what the OP was getting at. It sounds like they were suggesting putting multiple backups on the same media and that is a VERY BAD idea. The real advantage of spinning rust right now is that it is CHEAP.
You can buy several external spinny drives for the cost of a single SSD. That means multiple physical copies of your backups.
Once you are getting into backups or a NAS, the speed advantage of SSD doesn't matter so much anymore.
The further away from the CPU the storage is, the slower it can be. If consumer tape drives were a thing, those would work too. Although the quality of consumer tape was always pants.
I'm surprised the eurotrash wannabes aren't pointing to Europe as the example here. Much like the old land line phone monopolies, European ISP cable owners have to share with competitors.
Eliminate the natural physical monopoly and you solve the underlying problem. You solve "net neutrality" too.
It must make too much sense. (or else the Trump haters would be bringing this up themselves)
Sure. And the planted Hillary too so that she would be hated as first lady so badly that people still hate her 20 years later when the DNC handed her the nomination.
It's kind of like that time that particularly famous traitor aired our own dirty laundry and it turned out that we spy on all of our allies.
You're funny.
As a Unix, Linux could always run circles around any version of Windows when it came to disk IO. Don't even try to pretend that Linux is "unstable".
Watch what for yourself? Seeing it go up does not prove that it came down safely. For you to verify that yourself, you would probably have to put yourself at considerable risk. Seeing the LANDING for yourself, that would be something. That would prove something. Trying to witness that might also get you killed.
Thus the basic problem here.
If you didn't see it for yourself, you can't trust dick any more. We can alter video in real time and do all sorts of nonsense with. You can't even trust live video any more.
> Correction: criticizing religious practicants can be hateful sometimes. It depends on the tone of the critic.
Utter hogwash.
Facts aren't "hateful".
You either do or don't do something that a modern society should find reprehensible. It doesn't matter if it's Muslims, Xians, or Hassids.
> That means nothing.
No. The only thing that matters is that the customer was made right. He got his "eye" in the real biblical sense of the term. Nothing else really matters at that point.
If Amazon took a loss then that's part of their cost of doing business. They choose to care about their reputation and bear the costs of protecting it.
Your "envy" at someone gaining when they "shouldn't have" really isn't terribly relevant.
Yeah, it sounds nice but it's like rainbow unicorn ponies. It's a myth. The problem with capitalism is humanity. You can't impose some sort of alternative "monopoly" without having all of the problems the "evils of capitalism".
If anything, things will be worse due to the failures of centralization, the inability of all systems to scale, and the vulnerability of human systems to corruption.
Capitalism suffers when it gets too centralized. None of the proposed alternatives avoid this. They typically embrace it instead.
"I burned my hand on the stove. Why don't I set the rest of myself on fire."
Plenty of businesses have ditched Microsoft's particular brand of spreadsheet and word processor. There is nothing special about either. Microsoft didn't invent either one or even make a terribly good one.
The idea that you "need" their brand of a 30 year old solved problem is support for the basic destructiveness of the modern corporation.
He might be but I'm not. I have first hand experience with a corporation that chose to pollute and take the fine rather than do the right thing. It was cheaper for them to just pay the fine.
What can you really expect. We haven't held corporations to civilized standards for DECADES. We expect and encourage them to SCREW EVERYONE except the almighty stockholder. This isn't just a matter of shareholder lawsuits, it's a prevailing cultural expectation.
THAT ship sailed a long time ago and it shows no sign of coming back into port.
These days you pretty much have to threaten a lawsuit just to get them to do what they promised or what they're expected to do by law.
If it's 14 years old then it's not a "new" company anymore. There are car companies that have come and gone in the space of 14 years.
If they've really been around that long, it's time for them to get their act together already. They're like a pre-Ford boutique manufacturer at this point.They need to get past that already.
....and if you leave it to state we will all be forced to use total crap. We will be forced into tiny crap cars we don't fit in, that are unsafe to drive due to being underpowered, and have crap range.
The current options all SUCK.
Being forced to buy stuff that sucks is hardly a convincing case for government intrusiveness.
EVs are cheap crap. They are the modern equivalent of cheap crappy ICE econoboxes. They are a menace to the driver. This is more important to some of us than whether or not we think we're "saving a buck".
Not everything is about being a mindless cheapskate.
For some things quality matters. (Actually it should matter all the time but that's a different flame fest)
> Do you still have the trove of 1000 incandescents
Nope. Living in the desert cured me of the idea of using light bulbs that waste most of their energy trying to be little space heaters.
You need to sort your own shit out first. This also goes for losing cabin pressure in an airplane and running a robust phone or data network.
> There's a simple solution to make this problem go away completely. Stop pirating stuff
These are the same people that sue you for developing tools to use the physical media we BOUGHT from them.
"Not pirating" really isn't going to help.
> There's always this group of folks who get too religious about Linux and feel like,
Nope. Too busy with Steam to care...
It's really the trolls that care any more. The haters need to hate. It's more of an addiction with them than us. The zealots have moved on.
People forget about how proprietary software was in the 90s. The web destroyed all of that. A lot of the piddly little apps you would need to run on Windows are just web pages now.
The 6 foot ten pack is dead and buried.
> That's fine. You keep sharing, and large commercial devs will keep producing for Windows and the Mac, and your "year of the linux desktop" will keep retreating into the future.
Seriously? Where are you posting from 1995? Linux has been running expensive commercial software for about 20 years. It's been the reference platform for Oracle for nearly that long.
It's not just something that big companies "merely tolerate" but something they prefer.
The unhinged detached from all reality insanity of your post simply boggles the mind.
Windows software companies care about market share. That's why they ever pay any attention to Macs. That's also why they STOPPED paying attention to Macs before.
It has nothing to do with this "blast from the past" viral nonsense.
There are some real dinosaurs posting in here. I'm surprised I'm the one in the position to say that.
In the meantime there is Oracle and Valve.
Your entire argument is MORONIC. The lesser version of the GPL does NOTHING to dissuade commercial developers. If anything, it accelerates their work on alternate platforms like game consoles. That was a thing even before the "Year of Linux" was a thing.
People who charge more for their software than the cost of your physical dwelling have no problem with the GPL and have been fine with it for a very long time.