If you are smart enough to do Windows right, you don't need to use it as some sort of delusional crutch.
A poorly managed Windows box is far more dangerous than a poorly managed Linux one and that's exactly what you will get if you try to tell people that they can use Windows if they want to be lazy. They will be lazy and disaster will ensue.
I don't think I've seen anyone mention yet that the P in LAMP/WAMP is the most problematic thing here. It's not something to be trifled with. The new user needs to understand and respect the potential security implications of running someone else's PHP app and the need to keep security patches current.
The "I will run Windows because it will let me be an idiot" attitude is entirely inappropriate for any 3rd party PHP app you are going to expose the world.
Reading the nonsense would not make it any more plausible.
Even if it's not intentional, this is yet another classic case of Microsoft engineering something with horribly unintended consequences because they seem to have a complete inability to think things through or think outside the box in the slightest.
Accusing Microsoft of active malice is probably giving them more credit actually.
Yeah but Microsoft is head cheerleader for Team DRM. This is a big part of the problem.
If the AACS cartel tells Gates to get on all fours and bark, he'll do it. Microsoft has gone there and done that already. They just might dictate draconian UEFI lockdown to keep special DRM stuff that they've already got and no one else does (BluRay, CableCard).
> Maybe one day you will realize that every field protects itself.
Your Ayn Rand screed is unconvincing and is degrading the nature of business interactions to the point that anymore you need Perry Mason to bludgeon the other guy just so he honors the contract he signed. Never mind about any other more liberal notions about social justice and whatnot.
In my own home state the tuition increase cap was something like 15%. Beaurocrats being what they are, that pretty much means a gauranteed 15% increase in tuition every year. When compared to the usually admitted to numbers for the rate of inflation in general, it's easy to see how College Tuition is likely to increase at a pace that far outstrips everything else. Don't need to be a mathematician to see where that's going.
The whole thing builds on itself and quickly achieves critical mass or escape velocity like some sort of usurious credit card.
Regardless of whether or not your last meter is wired or wireless, you are still stuck with the same external bottlenecks. Although chances are that the amount of fiber involved will ensure that your problems are all local.
I don't have to worry about a lifetime of accumulated Google software suddenly becoming worthless or a device like the HDHomeRun Prime suddenly becoming less useful. There is also no physical wire monopoly to be concerned about. Exit barriers for Google "customers" are nonexsitent.
Even Microsoft's own efforts with their own search engine demonstrate this.
For a big box vendor, the cost of "production" is identical.
The real difference will be in things like OEM incentives. If the same Windows PC is cheaper, then it's probably because of kickbacks for installing a lot of bundleware on the thing. No comparable thing exists for Linux.
> Why waste your time inventing conspiracy theories, when a very good > reason to do this is obvious: Malware is a real problem, and this is a > good measure to take against it.
To begin with, Dell never really tried to sell Linux desktop PCs. If anything they tried NOT to. This is true for their recent attempt as well as the one in the 90s.
In both cases they offered a very limited lineup and pretty much hid them from view. You have to be rather persistent to find where Dell's hiding their Linux desktops.
It's hard to buy what you can't find even assuming you want it even if you're already in the market for a Linux machine. The specialty vendors have always done MUCH MUCH better. They actually look like they are trying. They offer interesting, varied, and compelling options.
Better 3D performance. Better monitor support. Stuff like VA-API is actually supported. Stuff like CUDA and OpenCL if you tend to blither on about Beowulf...
Part of the deal that George gets is to add to the public domain so that future artists can benefit.
This whole "consumer" thing is just a sideshow. Stop being such a corporate shill.
"Heir to the Empire" is not a fraud. Mutilating something and then calling it Star Wars is.
Since George wants to abandon the original version of Star Wars, all copyrights on it should be null and void and the fans and preservationists should be free to preserve it for the sake of posterity and history.
Actually read the law before trying to drone on about it.
If so then WHO CARES really. Tons of people have a lot of guest starring roles. This includes most of the "little people" that were on Trek. Although a few went onto bigger and better things.
20 years of bit parts in TV shows is nothing to brag about.
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If you are smart enough to do Windows right, you don't need to use it as some sort of delusional crutch.
A poorly managed Windows box is far more dangerous than a poorly managed Linux one and that's exactly what you will get if you try to tell people that they can use Windows if they want to be lazy. They will be lazy and disaster will ensue.
I don't think I've seen anyone mention yet that the P in LAMP/WAMP is the most problematic thing here. It's not something to be trifled with. The new user needs to understand and respect the potential security implications of running someone else's PHP app and the need to keep security patches current.
The "I will run Windows because it will let me be an idiot" attitude is entirely inappropriate for any 3rd party PHP app you are going to expose the world.
Reading the nonsense would not make it any more plausible.
Even if it's not intentional, this is yet another classic case of Microsoft engineering something with horribly unintended consequences because they seem to have a complete inability to think things through or think outside the box in the slightest.
Accusing Microsoft of active malice is probably giving them more credit actually.
Yeah but Microsoft is head cheerleader for Team DRM. This is a big part of the problem.
If the AACS cartel tells Gates to get on all fours and bark, he'll do it. Microsoft has gone there and done that already. They just might dictate draconian UEFI lockdown to keep special DRM stuff that they've already got and no one else does (BluRay, CableCard).
You're an idiot to base any argument on what Microsoft SAYS they will do.
They only thing that is remotely relevant is what they have actually done.
Do they have that well established history of not being totally evil yet? Can you point to it as a counterexample to everyone else's paranoid?
If not then you really have nothing to add to this conversation.
> Maybe one day you will realize that every field protects itself.
Your Ayn Rand screed is unconvincing and is degrading the nature of business interactions to the point that anymore you need Perry Mason to bludgeon the other guy just so he honors the contract he signed. Never mind about any other more liberal notions about social justice and whatnot.
In my own home state the tuition increase cap was something like 15%. Beaurocrats being what they are, that pretty much means a gauranteed 15% increase in tuition every year. When compared to the usually admitted to numbers for the rate of inflation in general, it's easy to see how College Tuition is likely to increase at a pace that far outstrips everything else. Don't need to be a mathematician to see where that's going.
The whole thing builds on itself and quickly achieves critical mass or escape velocity like some sort of usurious credit card.
Regardless of whether or not your last meter is wired or wireless, you are still stuck with the same external bottlenecks. Although chances are that the amount of fiber involved will ensure that your problems are all local.
I would use this as an opportunity to point out the differences between the hard sciences and everything else.
You don't need science to create a certain level of agreement and consistency of groupthink.
I can leave Google any time I want to.
I don't have to worry about a lifetime of accumulated Google software suddenly becoming worthless or a device like the HDHomeRun Prime suddenly becoming less useful. There is also no physical wire monopoly to be concerned about. Exit barriers for Google "customers" are nonexsitent.
Even Microsoft's own efforts with their own search engine demonstrate this.
I have the right to use my personal property as I see fit.
It is against the law for a monopoly to do things that would interfere with those rights.
You don't even have to do it locally.
There have been "mom and pop" mail order outfits building PCs for people since the dawn of time.
My first 486 was just such a machine. My recently acquired X6 is that kind of machine too.
No build skills required. Just need an accommodating motherboard.
...actually this sub-thread seems to be about SMALL BUSINESS rather than "the desktop".
Yeah. People do more with PCs than play some overwrought version of Angry Birds.
For a big box vendor, the cost of "production" is identical.
The real difference will be in things like OEM incentives. If the same Windows PC is cheaper, then it's probably because of kickbacks for installing a lot of bundleware on the thing. No comparable thing exists for Linux.
> Why waste your time inventing conspiracy theories, when a very good
> reason to do this is obvious: Malware is a real problem, and this is a
> good measure to take against it.
Because that is a retarded excuse in 2011.
Might have made sense in 1985 though.
Your story is missing a few facts.
To begin with, Dell never really tried to sell Linux desktop PCs. If anything they tried NOT to. This is true for their recent attempt as well as the one in the 90s.
In both cases they offered a very limited lineup and pretty much hid them from view. You have to be rather persistent to find where Dell's hiding their Linux desktops.
It's hard to buy what you can't find even assuming you want it even if you're already in the market for a Linux machine. The specialty vendors have always done MUCH MUCH better. They actually look like they are trying. They offer interesting, varied, and compelling options.
Plenty of TVs throw off bogus EDID info that knarfle some Linux video drivers.
"the differences among the open-source and closed-source graphics drivers."
I would love an alternative for nvidia on mini-itx boards. I would love an alternative in general.
It sucks to only have one viable option for some things.
I would tell you to go to Frys and pick up a copy of Linux Journal for the ads but they went all digital.
Just use Nvidia.
Better 3D performance.
Better monitor support.
Stuff like VA-API is actually supported.
Stuff like CUDA and OpenCL if you tend to blither on about Beowulf...
If you aren't interested in how well it performs, Oracle already isn't that hard to set up. It's not that expensive either.
HTML5 doesn't have what it takes to displace Flash as a video distribution mechanism.
Publishers want something that they can lock down and HTML5 really doesn't qualify.
That is why I specifically and explicitly mentioned forms of DRM in my original message.
You must have somehow missed that part.
No. I am not a "consumer", I am a citizen.
Part of the deal that George gets is to add to the public domain so that future artists can benefit.
This whole "consumer" thing is just a sideshow. Stop being such a corporate shill.
"Heir to the Empire" is not a fraud. Mutilating something and then calling it Star Wars is.
Since George wants to abandon the original version of Star Wars, all copyrights on it should be null and void and the fans and preservationists should be free to preserve it for the sake of posterity and history.
Actually read the law before trying to drone on about it.
"Wagon Train to the Stars"
> You DO know that there was absolutely no Star Trek related stuff produced in the 1970s, don't you?
No I don't. I was alive in the 70s and I know better.
Were they piddly little guest staring roles?
If so then WHO CARES really. Tons of people have a lot of guest starring roles. This includes most of the "little people" that were on Trek. Although a few went onto bigger and better things.
20 years of bit parts in TV shows is nothing to brag about.