Yes we are. We're forcing farmers to host weddings and bakers to make cakes. Can a baker refuse to make a cake for a bar mitzvah? Just saying that they choose to do business, so therefore they have to cater to everyone and anyone if they want to remain in business, is state coercion ultimately backed by force.
Shh. It supports the emotional well-being of green weenies and validates their world view. It also gives authoritarian legislators more ammo to control our lives.
We have multiple generations of people that have gotten fucked over by the public education system. It's the education part that's important, not the public part, you stupid fucking communist.
...looked at any of the videos. Only looked at titles and duration. If they had, they would have seen that these streams simply tell the viewer that a link to the video is actually displayed in the description section. This article is an epic fail.
That's all true, but freedom of speech is more than a government restriction. It's an idea. Eventually, if we keep saying that private society is right to censor we lose the benefits of that idea. A society where you are free to criticize the government or anyone else, but are censored by the gatekeepers of all forms of expression is worthless.
It's not about science. Stop praying at the altar. Some people will never accept it, even if they accept science. The harder you push, the harder they will push back.
I have yet to see anyone show that it is possible to transfer 2 gigabytes of data in 87 seconds or less via VPN, from DC to Romania, using any type of connection.
I'm not sure if you're being sincere or sarcastic. But yes, I can provide a link to forensicator's analysis, which was the other source that was used for the article. He deals mostly with the issue of transfer speeds and why it's doesn't appear to be possible to transmit as fast as the DNC did.
No, you are incorrect. The DNC leaks had not to do with a spear phishing attack. You are confusing these events with the leak of John Podesta's personal gmail account which is alleged to be the result of a spear phishing attack.
1) No one is alleging that an insider used a spear phishing attacks to obtain the DNC materials that were leaked. You are confused.
2. Outside of Google Fiber, 200Mbps was not obtainable in the US in mid 2016, and Google Fiber was not available in Washington DC where the DNC servers were located. Even if this connection speed was obtainable, it is impossible to send and recieve 2 GB of data over a VPN, across the Atlantic and Western Europe in 87 seconds. You know as well as anyone else that connection speed != actual transfer speeds. Show me anyone that has actually achieved 23MBps in that scenario, I dare you.
3. No one is claiming they did, other than you. And if Russia did, that does not mean they hacked DNC and leaked info. Without evidence it is only a weak allegation.
Your points are well taken. The fundamental facts of the whole Russia hacked the DNC narrative have never been questioned or put under scrutiny. There are many reasons for this, the primary one being that most of the media is a mouthpiece for the Democratic party. One can laugh at that, but this is the sort of shit that happens when a democracy does not have a free and fair press.
Strong Analysis supporting this claim. It was an inside leak. This is pretty close to damning evidence. Compare it to the evidence supplied by the IC pinning it on Russia.
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Yes we are. We're forcing farmers to host weddings and bakers to make cakes. Can a baker refuse to make a cake for a bar mitzvah? Just saying that they choose to do business, so therefore they have to cater to everyone and anyone if they want to remain in business, is state coercion ultimately backed by force.
Shh. It supports the emotional well-being of green weenies and validates their world view. It also gives authoritarian legislators more ammo to control our lives.
We have multiple generations of people that have gotten fucked over by the public education system. It's the education part that's important, not the public part, you stupid fucking communist.
Thanks for reinforcing my point, David. We are talking about private businesses in this thread.
...doesn't actually exist. It exists only as a concept for a movement that brain dead progressives can use to signal their virtue.
And yet a farmer can be forced to host a wedding and a baker can be forced to bake a cake. Are you sure your reasoning is strong and valid?
Oooh. They're streaming a show thats been syndicated since I was in college. That's not how the article portrays it.
...looked at any of the videos. Only looked at titles and duration. If they had, they would have seen that these streams simply tell the viewer that a link to the video is actually displayed in the description section. This article is an epic fail.
That's all true, but freedom of speech is more than a government restriction. It's an idea. Eventually, if we keep saying that private society is right to censor we lose the benefits of that idea. A society where you are free to criticize the government or anyone else, but are censored by the gatekeepers of all forms of expression is worthless.
...looking for other sites that violate the "terms of service".
...on Twitter. He blocks accounts on Twitter. It's an important distinction.
Show me.
No, I'm saying the hand selected group that pinned it on Russia as well as all the leakers are left wingers.
It's not about science. Stop praying at the altar. Some people will never accept it, even if they accept science. The harder you push, the harder they will push back.
I have yet to see anyone show that it is possible to transfer 2 gigabytes of data in 87 seconds or less via VPN, from DC to Romania, using any type of connection.
Sorry use this one.
I'm not sure if you're being sincere or sarcastic. But yes, I can provide a link to forensicator's analysis, which was the other source that was used for the article. He deals mostly with the issue of transfer speeds and why it's doesn't appear to be possible to transmit as fast as the DNC did.
Clearly, you did not look at the analysis presented in the supplied link.
You can't sit there and claim I said things I didn't.
No, you are incorrect. The DNC leaks had not to do with a spear phishing attack. You are confusing these events with the leak of John Podesta's personal gmail account which is alleged to be the result of a spear phishing attack.
1) No one is alleging that an insider used a spear phishing attacks to obtain the DNC materials that were leaked. You are confused.
2. Outside of Google Fiber, 200Mbps was not obtainable in the US in mid 2016, and Google Fiber was not available in Washington DC where the DNC servers were located. Even if this connection speed was obtainable, it is impossible to send and recieve 2 GB of data over a VPN, across the Atlantic and Western Europe in 87 seconds. You know as well as anyone else that connection speed != actual transfer speeds. Show me anyone that has actually achieved 23MBps in that scenario, I dare you.
3. No one is claiming they did, other than you. And if Russia did, that does not mean they hacked DNC and leaked info. Without evidence it is only a weak allegation.
Your points are well taken. The fundamental facts of the whole Russia hacked the DNC narrative have never been questioned or put under scrutiny. There are many reasons for this, the primary one being that most of the media is a mouthpiece for the Democratic party. One can laugh at that, but this is the sort of shit that happens when a democracy does not have a free and fair press.
The evidence and analysis that report is based on. Pretty legit.
Here is Adam Carter's evidence and analysis that The Nation article is based on. It's pretty damned legit.
Strong Analysis supporting this claim. It was an inside leak. This is pretty close to damning evidence. Compare it to the evidence supplied by the IC pinning it on Russia.
Here is some pretty strong evidence that it was an inside leak. Much stronger than anything the IC ever provided pinning it on Russia.