And it sucks. Really it does. Only the latest release fixes the sleep problem. And the tablet is slow as hell, the wireless weak as hell and slow as molasses...
I have one here all hacked and the hacked market installed... I dont like waiting for everything to load and reading large PDF's on it is a exercise in pain....
Hacking these is great, but they are low end hardware packages. Android needs 1.2ghz or higher and a lot more ram than these things come with.
From someone that has done this and used a Galaxy tab for a short time... It's not the same, not even close. the Nook Color is slow as molasses compared to the Galaxy tab or even a 1st gen ipad.
It's a great hack for the poor, but useability is very low due to the limited ram and really slow processor.
IF all you want to do is run the facebook app and the twitter app along with your ebooks, it's great. If you think you will use it as a full-on tablet.... well get used to S-L-O-W.....
Stop bringing truth and common sense into this. You are going to hurt the telcos and cable companies that are barely making a dollar. Hell they were only able to give their CEO's a 7 digit bonus this year...
Honestly the only answer is to have the govt declare that internet access is a utility and all ISP's have to follow strict utility rules. They certainly will not do it on their own.
require actual and accurate meters for each customer that must be able to be read from any web browser and as a XML rss feed for the customer. require electronic notification to the customer when they come within 80% of hitting their cap, if the rate of consumption is so high they will hit the cap in 4 hours then a phone call MUST be made to the customer letting them know, this can be automated. require that passing a cap DOES NOT incur any charges unless the customer opt-in to a overcharge program and all charges are clearly show and can not be more than 125% of the normal rate, none of this $10.00 per megabyte rape the customer bullshit. require oversight and extremely harsh penalties to the companies if they break any of the rules. penalty double refund of that months charges to any customer that they violated this on for each month they did. Full Refund of a months charges for every day they do not get back to a customer or address the problem.
Yes we must force these companies to deliver good customer service and obey the regulations. I.E. no more organized crime behavior or stiff penalties apply.
But it will not happen. Not even mild regulation, every single senator and house or representative is a dirty scumbag and will side with the Telcos and cable companies as well as big business way before the American people, and yes this is truth, as I dont see one of them standing there yelling that the crap has to stop. They don't give a rats ass about you unless you make over 7 figures and donated to them heavily.
The rich mans government is doomed the day the minorities discover they can utterly own the government overnight if they just got off their ass and voted.
Honestly, how is this better than a silicon die in a Plastic carrier? I already can make a processor so thin that you would not feel it in a shirt, and you can waterproof it so it will survive washings. Flexing is not an issue as it's too tiny to care.
Other than a "neat-o lookie what we did" aspect, I can not see any practical use to replace a silicon die of the same thing.
Actually no I like original music, and that is the problem... right now all this crap is rehashes of other stuff. the Lady GaGA garbage is something I cant even identify. I have found indie artists and a lot of obscure artists that are not on itunes. In fact the new Cake album is very different from their last stuff and is very good although getting really political.
you cant tell me that the vocals of Metallicas enter sandman with a Journey song is NOTHING like anything I have heard. Some of the beastie boys stuff is insanely good.
Hearing yet another metal band re-do another 80's song is NOT what I am interested in. Hell even eminem hasn't produced anything worth listening to for 2 albums now.
Honestly I have not bought a song off of itunes for 3 months now because 90% of it is crap and the other 10% is uninteresting.. Lately I have been looking for illegal remixes and mashups. Those guys have some real talent...
Problem is you don't understand this. What are you an expert at? can you teach me in 10 seconds and with the top level high end stuff? Why not? Why wont you hold my hand teaching me the bottom drawer basics? please spend the next 900 hours of your life holding my hand. You will not do it.
Automotive hacking requires a LOT of prior knowledge. step 1 understand fully the internal combustion engine. This is a CRITICALLY IMPORTANT step. but a lot of the kiddies ask, "Teach me ECM hacking.... what's spark advance?" That's like teaching someone how to build a Saturn 5 rocket that cant even do algebra. I'll gladly teach when you are ready, but I'm tired of wasting my time with the n00bs that don't want to learn everything,they want the shortcut. and typically end up bugging you to do their work for them.... ECM hacking requires you to buy some specialized gear, oh now they freak out and ask, can I borrow yours or can you burn this chip for me.... etc.... Honda tuner groups are full of kiddies that blow the crap out of their cars because they refuse to learn the basics.
My attitude is from 4 years of getting tired of telling people, what they need to do and watching them ignore me and demand shortcuts. Now days I don't even answer questions from noobs until they prove that they have been learning... One guy lately did not want to learn about turbocharging and said, "that sounds hard, cant I just slap a ebay turbo on?" I did not even respond... he has no interest in learning.
And yes, the Open source movement works very well with people getting pissed and telling others to RTFM and not doing their work for them. IF you go to ANY forum and start asking about things, refusing to actually learn and start begging to be hand fed kernel driver writing when you dont even know C programming.. they will give you the exact same attitude.... RTFM and come back when you have a clue as to what you are even asking. That is exactly how the open source movement actually works!
Interested in car hacking? that is great. you need to start LEARNING now. buy books on internal combustion, Turbocharging, fuel injection. read up online on how ignition works and understand it. go buy a cheap engine and tear it down, do an autopsy, and reassemble. Nearly free to do if you find a dead engine to do it to. you need to learn ALL THAT before you can even start into ECM programming let alone engine management hacking.
Want to know about canbus and BCM hacking? great! how much do you know about electronics engineering? buy a arduino and mess with canbus devices, read up on the spec, become an expert in it and then people like me are willing to help you.. I'm not willing to teach you what a resistor does or how to program a duino or Pic.... there are community college courses on that as well as a ton of electronics websites that can teach you that.
car hacking scene is a 10,000 foot level that requires you to learn 9,999 feet of information... you cant get on the ladder at the top rung, start at the bottom like everyone else.
tv show makers are getting lazier by the year. we got a whole 13 episode last season.... ooooohhhhhh, glad they did not strain themselves. and I'l bet they pull the BSG bullshit of airing 6 episode now, wait 5 months then air the next 4 episdodes and then hold onto the xmas one for the end of the year.
If you buy a laptop at a "computer faire" you will get lied to and sold used hardware. Nobody in those arenas are telling the truth and selling used stuff as new.
Actually no. you can use a older fully documented ecm like the 7730 and pay someone to program it. IF you really want to learn ECM programming step 1 is to learn everything about internal combustion engines. Everything. then you can make sense of the fuel and spark tables to start modifications. lots of guys simply are not interested in taking a year of intense study to learn it. when done though you know way more about cars than any mechanic or any expert at the dealer. I have done things that made a ASE master certified mechanic say was impossible to do.
If you want to use a modern ECM or the new engine systems from the new cars, you need to be a cracker and hacker first as you need to disable the anti theft system. It's built into the damned ECM and many of these things refuse to do anything if they also dont see the BCM.
And yes congress and the car companies want to kill hotrodders and car modders. They hate you because you build something better without giving them money. You also tend to hold onto a car longer than they want and that is bad for profits.
What needs to happen is the info needs to be tar-balled up and released anonymously. The Geohot problem would not have existed if he used freenet or a open cafe and posted the info anonymously. Like as a anon message here on slashdot. you can easily release information without traces back to you, but a lot of guys want "cred" for it so they attach their persona to it.
A lot of info in the car hacking world is released as "dont know where this came from" and a lot of it is illegal releases of GM and Ford documents that should not have left the factory. I have a full engineering assembly documentation of a couple of modern GM systems and a copy of the sourcecode to the BCM module used on a couple of cars. This information allowed me to buy a junkyard BCM and reprogram it with a arduino and PC to accept my car's VIN number and reset the feature codes, something that the dealer cant even do. That information does not hurt GM in any way.. they want to force you to buy a new BCM instead of a used one... It's a way for the company to force new part sales and make junkyard parts useless to increase corporate profits.. they use the excuse of "reduces stolen parts" and that smokescreen is a bold faced lie.
For anyone asking : NO I will not share because I am not willing to do someones work for them. This stuff requires a lot of prior knowledge, get online and start learning the basics, ask the right questions and start doing the right things and you will be invited to one of the closed groups. But that 's the key. you have to actually DO things. Like go and buy a caddilac FLIR camera and reverse engineer it or fully document it, they don't let anyone in that does not contribute.
If you are not browsing flash websites good old thin clients do the exact same thing. the Old HP thin clients we have here that are 3 years old only draw 50 watts each WITH the 17" monitors on them.
No it wont change... the large closed sites get bigger. I am a member of several closed sites and they are going "offline" or off the main path because of all the retardation of suing over dumb things and corporate enforcement of corporate profits and ideals.
I VPN into a node that gives me access to one of the largest Automotive computer and electronics hacking groups out there. It's invite only and it was a major bitch to get an invite into it. All this stuff is closed because of the morons that run automotive companies. Other hardware hacking circles are also going that route, PS3 hacking is starting to close in because of sony's antics. But having access to a dis-assembly of a current GM ECM gives me more options for tuning and performance. Plus I have acces s to "illegal" ECM bin files to learn from or use as a baseline tune. It's not easy to get my hands on a ECM from a Caddilac CTS-V but the bin file and other files allow me to look inside and see what they did. Also trying to retrofit a canbus controlled steering assist system to a car that does not have it allows me to add modern power steering assist to a hotrod instead of letting that hardware get crushed in a junkyard scrap crusher.
It's going to get more and more closed, the good information is getting squirreled away because of corporations.
Getting a working market on it is NOT easy. stop sugar coating it.
Android tablet without the market SUCKS. I had to spend 4 hours to get a hacked market installed and then using the dev tools to get a device ID to put in my android device to get market working without problems.
It's not as simple as click here, do this and Voila! 100% working and perfect. it will take an afternoon of tinkering and following howtos.
no problem, except your wacom pen wont work on it. I have to use my finger or a ipad stylus. Oh and try this on your laptop. swipe a credit card, process the payment and capture the signature really cheaply without buying ANY hardware... Oh wait you cant.
the Square app sent me the tiny reader for free. Works great on my ipad after I show my client everything they need, on the ipad I process their deposit and capture their signature. One thin device carried with one tiny dongle in the headphone slot.
The funny part is that I held off on the ipad for a year, I bought a kindle, sold it. I bought a sony ereader, sold it. I bought a myriad of android tablets... sold them. I borrowed a pad for 1 week.
I bought one.
Why? Battery life and open format usability. Kindle and the sony e-reader had the battery life but could NOT read all the books I had and like. No I will not own two devices. Android tablets, after cracking them to get real android on them, they were open, more or less of I could find a apk of the program I wanted, no market = useless device. and the battery life was horrible. they kept waking up on their own and draining the battery.
the Ipad gives me several days between charging, will read ANY ebook, has several periodicals I read on it, can easily collect all my information sources together AND has the single killer app for me.... FLipBoard, it distills all my media rss feeds and social media into a live magazine. OMFG this app is killer. Plus I can have XBMC on it so while in bed I can watch last nights colbert report or other movie and has a screen resolution that just looks great.
I dont know of the new android offerings will do the same now, but it was too late, I got tired of waiting.
Because they cant stand change... he's still rocking in the corner upset over the differences between XP and Windows 7.... It's a mild form of assbergers.
I really hope they make a N1000 that has a nice powerful dual core and modern open smartphone that owns the others but I dont see it happening. Their changes recently are going AWAY from that.
I loved Nokia phones, they had features years ago that smartphones only now are getting.
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And it sucks. Really it does. Only the latest release fixes the sleep problem. And the tablet is slow as hell, the wireless weak as hell and slow as molasses...
I have one here all hacked and the hacked market installed... I dont like waiting for everything to load and reading large PDF's on it is a exercise in pain....
Hacking these is great, but they are low end hardware packages. Android needs 1.2ghz or higher and a lot more ram than these things come with.
From someone that has done this and used a Galaxy tab for a short time... It's not the same, not even close. the Nook Color is slow as molasses compared to the Galaxy tab or even a 1st gen ipad.
It's a great hack for the poor, but useability is very low due to the limited ram and really slow processor.
IF all you want to do is run the facebook app and the twitter app along with your ebooks, it's great. If you think you will use it as a full-on tablet.... well get used to S-L-O-W.....
So they shut it off at night?
Get a clue idiot.
Stop bringing truth and common sense into this. You are going to hurt the telcos and cable companies that are barely making a dollar. Hell they were only able to give their CEO's a 7 digit bonus this year...
Honestly the only answer is to have the govt declare that internet access is a utility and all ISP's have to follow strict utility rules. They certainly will not do it on their own.
require actual and accurate meters for each customer that must be able to be read from any web browser and as a XML rss feed for the customer.
require electronic notification to the customer when they come within 80% of hitting their cap, if the rate of consumption is so high they will hit the cap in 4 hours then a phone call MUST be made to the customer letting them know, this can be automated.
require that passing a cap DOES NOT incur any charges unless the customer opt-in to a overcharge program and all charges are clearly show and can not be more than 125% of the normal rate, none of this $10.00 per megabyte rape the customer bullshit.
require oversight and extremely harsh penalties to the companies if they break any of the rules. penalty double refund of that months charges to any customer that they violated this on for each month they did. Full Refund of a months charges for every day they do not get back to a customer or address the problem.
Yes we must force these companies to deliver good customer service and obey the regulations. I.E. no more organized crime behavior or stiff penalties apply.
But it will not happen. Not even mild regulation, every single senator and house or representative is a dirty scumbag and will side with the Telcos and cable companies as well as big business way before the American people, and yes this is truth, as I dont see one of them standing there yelling that the crap has to stop. They don't give a rats ass about you unless you make over 7 figures and donated to them heavily.
The rich mans government is doomed the day the minorities discover they can utterly own the government overnight if they just got off their ass and voted.
Honestly, how is this better than a silicon die in a Plastic carrier? I already can make a processor so thin that you would not feel it in a shirt, and you can waterproof it so it will survive washings. Flexing is not an issue as it's too tiny to care.
Other than a "neat-o lookie what we did" aspect, I can not see any practical use to replace a silicon die of the same thing.
Actually no I like original music, and that is the problem... right now all this crap is rehashes of other stuff. the Lady GaGA garbage is something I cant even identify. I have found indie artists and a lot of obscure artists that are not on itunes. In fact the new Cake album is very different from their last stuff and is very good although getting really political.
you cant tell me that the vocals of Metallicas enter sandman with a Journey song is NOTHING like anything I have heard. Some of the beastie boys stuff is insanely good.
Hearing yet another metal band re-do another 80's song is NOT what I am interested in. Hell even eminem hasn't produced anything worth listening to for 2 albums now.
Bullshit. Public domain license is much more free than BSD.
If you were truly interested in free you would release as Public Domain, do whatever the hell you want with it, i dont care license.
could you promise to spell correctly instead?
OMG!!!! you have to do all that!!?!?!?!
Windows 7 phone wipes it for you at random!
I blend them in the blendtech at the office. far better than your burning.
The great fun is watching the co-workers complain about the taste of their smoothies for the next month after I blended a phone...
HUH? I can completely wipe a iphone in 12 seconds, android phone even faster. do you even know what you are talking about?
That most music right now utterly sucks?
Honestly I have not bought a song off of itunes for 3 months now because 90% of it is crap and the other 10% is uninteresting.. Lately I have been looking for illegal remixes and mashups. Those guys have some real talent...
Problem is you don't understand this. What are you an expert at? can you teach me in 10 seconds and with the top level high end stuff? Why not? Why wont you hold my hand teaching me the bottom drawer basics? please spend the next 900 hours of your life holding my hand. You will not do it.
Automotive hacking requires a LOT of prior knowledge. step 1 understand fully the internal combustion engine. This is a CRITICALLY IMPORTANT step. but a lot of the kiddies ask, "Teach me ECM hacking.... what's spark advance?" That's like teaching someone how to build a Saturn 5 rocket that cant even do algebra. I'll gladly teach when you are ready, but I'm tired of wasting my time with the n00bs that don't want to learn everything ,they want the shortcut. and typically end up bugging you to do their work for them.... ECM hacking requires you to buy some specialized gear, oh now they freak out and ask, can I borrow yours or can you burn this chip for me.... etc.... Honda tuner groups are full of kiddies that blow the crap out of their cars because they refuse to learn the basics.
My attitude is from 4 years of getting tired of telling people, what they need to do and watching them ignore me and demand shortcuts. Now days I don't even answer questions from noobs until they prove that they have been learning... One guy lately did not want to learn about turbocharging and said, "that sounds hard, cant I just slap a ebay turbo on?" I did not even respond... he has no interest in learning.
And yes, the Open source movement works very well with people getting pissed and telling others to RTFM and not doing their work for them. IF you go to ANY forum and start asking about things, refusing to actually learn and start begging to be hand fed kernel driver writing when you dont even know C programming .. they will give you the exact same attitude.... RTFM and come back when you have a clue as to what you are even asking. That is exactly how the open source movement actually works!
Interested in car hacking? that is great. you need to start LEARNING now. buy books on internal combustion, Turbocharging, fuel injection. read up online on how ignition works and understand it. go buy a cheap engine and tear it down, do an autopsy, and reassemble. Nearly free to do if you find a dead engine to do it to. you need to learn ALL THAT before you can even start into ECM programming let alone engine management hacking.
Want to know about canbus and BCM hacking? great! how much do you know about electronics engineering? buy a arduino and mess with canbus devices, read up on the spec, become an expert in it and then people like me are willing to help you.. I'm not willing to teach you what a resistor does or how to program a duino or Pic.... there are community college courses on that as well as a ton of electronics websites that can teach you that.
car hacking scene is a 10,000 foot level that requires you to learn 9,999 feet of information... you cant get on the ladder at the top rung, start at the bottom like everyone else.
Like 6.
tv show makers are getting lazier by the year. we got a whole 13 episode last season.... ooooohhhhhh, glad they did not strain themselves.
and I'l bet they pull the BSG bullshit of airing 6 episode now, wait 5 months then air the next 4 episdodes and then hold onto the xmas one for the end of the year.
If you buy a laptop at a "computer faire" you will get lied to and sold used hardware. Nobody in those arenas are telling the truth and selling used stuff as new.
Actually no. you can use a older fully documented ecm like the 7730 and pay someone to program it. IF you really want to learn ECM programming step 1 is to learn everything about internal combustion engines. Everything. then you can make sense of the fuel and spark tables to start modifications. lots of guys simply are not interested in taking a year of intense study to learn it. when done though you know way more about cars than any mechanic or any expert at the dealer. I have done things that made a ASE master certified mechanic say was impossible to do.
If you want to use a modern ECM or the new engine systems from the new cars, you need to be a cracker and hacker first as you need to disable the anti theft system. It's built into the damned ECM and many of these things refuse to do anything if they also dont see the BCM.
And yes congress and the car companies want to kill hotrodders and car modders. They hate you because you build something better without giving them money. You also tend to hold onto a car longer than they want and that is bad for profits.
What needs to happen is the info needs to be tar-balled up and released anonymously. The Geohot problem would not have existed if he used freenet or a open cafe and posted the info anonymously. Like as a anon message here on slashdot. you can easily release information without traces back to you, but a lot of guys want "cred" for it so they attach their persona to it.
A lot of info in the car hacking world is released as "dont know where this came from" and a lot of it is illegal releases of GM and Ford documents that should not have left the factory. I have a full engineering assembly documentation of a couple of modern GM systems and a copy of the sourcecode to the BCM module used on a couple of cars. This information allowed me to buy a junkyard BCM and reprogram it with a arduino and PC to accept my car's VIN number and reset the feature codes, something that the dealer cant even do. That information does not hurt GM in any way.. they want to force you to buy a new BCM instead of a used one... It's a way for the company to force new part sales and make junkyard parts useless to increase corporate profits.. they use the excuse of "reduces stolen parts" and that smokescreen is a bold faced lie.
For anyone asking : NO I will not share because I am not willing to do someones work for them. This stuff requires a lot of prior knowledge, get online and start learning the basics, ask the right questions and start doing the right things and you will be invited to one of the closed groups. But that 's the key. you have to actually DO things. Like go and buy a caddilac FLIR camera and reverse engineer it or fully document it, they don't let anyone in that does not contribute.
If you are not browsing flash websites good old thin clients do the exact same thing. the Old HP thin clients we have here that are 3 years old only draw 50 watts each WITH the 17" monitors on them.
No it wont change... the large closed sites get bigger. I am a member of several closed sites and they are going "offline" or off the main path because of all the retardation of suing over dumb things and corporate enforcement of corporate profits and ideals.
I VPN into a node that gives me access to one of the largest Automotive computer and electronics hacking groups out there. It's invite only and it was a major bitch to get an invite into it. All this stuff is closed because of the morons that run automotive companies. Other hardware hacking circles are also going that route, PS3 hacking is starting to close in because of sony's antics. But having access to a dis-assembly of a current GM ECM gives me more options for tuning and performance. Plus I have acces s to "illegal" ECM bin files to learn from or use as a baseline tune. It's not easy to get my hands on a ECM from a Caddilac CTS-V but the bin file and other files allow me to look inside and see what they did. Also trying to retrofit a canbus controlled steering assist system to a car that does not have it allows me to add modern power steering assist to a hotrod instead of letting that hardware get crushed in a junkyard scrap crusher.
It's going to get more and more closed, the good information is getting squirreled away because of corporations.
Getting a working market on it is NOT easy. stop sugar coating it.
Android tablet without the market SUCKS. I had to spend 4 hours to get a hacked market installed and then using the dev tools to get a device ID to put in my android device to get market working without problems.
It's not as simple as click here, do this and Voila! 100% working and perfect. it will take an afternoon of tinkering and following howtos.
no problem, except your wacom pen wont work on it. I have to use my finger or a ipad stylus.
Oh and try this on your laptop. swipe a credit card, process the payment and capture the signature really cheaply without buying ANY hardware... Oh wait you cant.
the Square app sent me the tiny reader for free. Works great on my ipad after I show my client everything they need, on the ipad I process their deposit and capture their signature. One thin device carried with one tiny dongle in the headphone slot.
The funny part is that I held off on the ipad for a year, I bought a kindle, sold it. I bought a sony ereader, sold it. I bought a myriad of android tablets... sold them. I borrowed a pad for 1 week.
I bought one.
Why? Battery life and open format usability. Kindle and the sony e-reader had the battery life but could NOT read all the books I had and like. No I will not own two devices. Android tablets, after cracking them to get real android on them, they were open, more or less of I could find a apk of the program I wanted, no market = useless device. and the battery life was horrible. they kept waking up on their own and draining the battery.
the Ipad gives me several days between charging, will read ANY ebook, has several periodicals I read on it, can easily collect all my information sources together AND has the single killer app for me.... FLipBoard, it distills all my media rss feeds and social media into a live magazine. OMFG this app is killer.
Plus I can have XBMC on it so while in bed I can watch last nights colbert report or other movie and has a screen resolution that just looks great.
I dont know of the new android offerings will do the same now, but it was too late, I got tired of waiting.
Because they cant stand change... he's still rocking in the corner upset over the differences between XP and Windows 7.... It's a mild form of assbergers.
Both of us charge our device. your $200.00 laptop and my 1 year old ipad.
now let's both use the devices during the day and see who runs out of power first......
Oh look that $200.00 laptop loses big time. sorry... but battery life is king, your $200.00 laptop is crap when constant power is not around.
I really hope they make a N1000 that has a nice powerful dual core and modern open smartphone that owns the others but I dont see it happening. Their changes recently are going AWAY from that.
I loved Nokia phones, they had features years ago that smartphones only now are getting.