Agreed, I have $110.00 Eagle GT II's on my pontiac fiero and I am certain I can eat his big heavy saloon BMW hard in the corners (and the straights with it's 528hp V8 I swapped in and added a turbo to bring me to 5lbs per HP makes it nearly twice as fast than his 9lbs per HP..) When I do track days I will swap to MT's simply for the grip, but they have a problem that 90% of drivers never understand. they grip hard until they cant anymore, then they let go completely. It's like you fell off a cliff. Granted my racing suspension that does not allow any body roll really exacerbates this. I actually prefer the warning I get from low cost tires like the Eagle GT-II tires.
Tires and wheels only help if the car is set up for performance cornering. $800.00 each MT's on a stock civic will not help it corner in any way.
There are few production cars set up for performance. Even the Corvette z06 is a utter dog in the corners compared to a car that is set up properly. I typically have corvette owners pissed that I destroy their track ET's and they cant figure out why I have zero body roll in the corners. It's the difference between a wrench turning racer and a checkbook racer.
If you want a fast cornering car, set up the car first, then get tires AND wheels. most stock wheels are garbage and flex way too much, and are too heavy. losing even 3 pounds per rim makes a huge difference.
That's why most people that are smart in those states have 2 sets of tires.
1 summer set. 1 winter set.
I like the high pressure low rolling resistance for summer. I have real winter tires for the winter.
Result? My honda civic has an easier time in snow than any 4WD SUV and their "all season" junk tires. (Yes, your $500.00 each boutique all season tires are JUNK!) I can go up icy hills that have an escalade owner crying over. I have regularly went through 2 foot of snowfall on the road without problem.
Snow traction is 80% tires, 20% driver skill, get some snow tires and own the road in the winter.
camber changes decrease tire scrubbing. you can also set the tires for zero toe and get even more increases. Problem is the car becomes nearly uncontrollable at highway speeds.
Have you ever driven a zero camber set car? They are twitchy as hell. even slight negative camber is still a challenge to drive. Considering what I observer daily in the lack of skill in driving that most of the population has, I really don't want to encourage making the job harder.
Yes Zero or slightly negative camber increases gas mileage and it has been done for decades for mileage challenges, and is certainly not new. Having driven a car that had zero camber setup for max fuel economy and running on tires that were at 72psi I can tell you I do NOT want 95% of the population driving such a car. It takes all your concentration and requires the power steering to be removed from the car to make it somewhat tolerable for a 5 hour drive.
You end up after 1 hour feeing exhausted and afraid to look at the instrument cluster.
The 2007 Mustang engine CAN NOT EVER be suped up to 1000hp.
That's the point. today's engines are at the top of their HP potential, they cant go much farther without blowing up. older engines could be brough to insane points without much changes... the 458 mentioned had forged pistons from the factory, so that was not needed to get to HP levels that arenuts.
The other thing is... 300hp in a 4100lb car is way WAY faster than 300hp in a 6800lb block of lead from the past. It's how a honda Civic Si with a turbo can utterly eat a Mustang GT on the road. It weighs a lot less. Crotch rocket bikes are not impressive, just light compared to the HP they have with them.
Weight to HP ratio is everything. Horsepower in a big heavy car is nothing to be impressed with until it get's to a 8pounds per HP point. Then it's impressive.
Your 2007 mustang is made from tinfoil and packing tape. the 1970 mustang was made from 3/4" plate steel, concrete, and lead. PLUS the engine was intentionally detuned. Those engines can be easily woke up to do 1HP per CuInch, your 2007 mustang is at the top of it's horsepower capabilities without adding a supercharger or turbo. a 1970 458 big block can easily reach 1000HP with a supercharger.
3 of the MOST POPULAR cars in 1975. I.E. there was a crapload of them on the road, more than the SuperBee and Charger musclecars by a 60 to 1 ratio.
Sorry but fuel economy has went NOWHERE over the past 35 years. we had cars getting 20-s to 40mpg forever here in the usa and the bulk of people did not drive Musclecars and the Land-Yacht station wagons with giant big block V8's with 6 pack carbeurators.
Todays cars are more complex. they are NOT more efficient. In fact if you are trying to build yourself a high gas mileage car in the garage you will have a easier time of it if you go carbeurator instead of fuel injection.
grad-di-du-dated pub lick Hi Skool Cume Laude, Summa Cume laude in undergraduate college and just regular old normal graduate in grad school.
Granted I went to a Engineering and Science School. I discovered that the English majors had a harder time making friends because of their tendency to berate people.
"Home schooled kids don't generally have to put up with schoolyard bullies. They don't have to make friends. They don't learn about compromises and sharing and common interests the way you do when you're surrounded by other people all day long."
All the homeschooled kids around where I grew up dealt with all that.
The asshole kids that bullied also bullied the home-schooled kids, granted they did not get to deal with the imported bullies from across town, but a bully is a bully. and they made friends with kids that lived near them.. Plus many were in sports programs with the public school kids. You can be home schooled and play football for your local public school at the same time. They joined lots of extra curricular activities. Many of us were jealous as they typically had a 4 hour school day plus got to take "classes" we never got. One kid was taking a class at the local motorcycle shop for learning small engine repair at 13 years old.
I know you guys love your twisted view of homeschooled kids as all living in basements and named "wolfgang" or "moon-unit-alpha" and are never let outside... but it's not reality. in fact it's pretty darn close to racism in being flat out wrong.
My daughter had problems learning algebra until I told her to ignore everthing her teacher told her and taught her the old way that I learned in high school 20 years earlier.
She got it, and was acing tests until the teacher saw her doing it a different way.
Sorry but teaching something a retarded way that is confusing and flat out stupid is not the correct way. Teach them the easy to understand way.. Let's get worthless teachers out of the schools that think the newfangled methods are worth a damn.
Call Pakistan: round up all the taliban they got and deliver them to us in 7 days. if not we carpetbomb your entire country starting with every rich persons house and government offices, we offer a $10,000,000 bounty on each government officials head payable in cash as well.
figure out the general area we know the taliban are hiding and bomb the crap out of it for 30 days straight.
We honestly could have NUKED a country the week after 9/11 and the world would have not blinked.
This is how it all started in Vietnam. Documents leaked back to the states by upset servicemen. How it ended was officers getting fragged with servicemen tossing a grenade in the officers quarters while they sleep. Nasty officers sometimes coincidently got several. The american public was getting very outraged at the end of that war from the information leaked.
Just wait, if this war continues we will start hearing of troops killing their own officers.
Kill 1 man and it's murder. Kill 20,000 and it's a statistic.
History is written by the victors... A man that kills 20,000 is a hero to the winners if he is on the winning side. he is a war criminal only if they lose.
4. If President orders the troops to retreat, they'll be demoralized, which will make them fight less effectively.
NEVER in the history of man has a Retreat or pull out been demoralizing to anyone but the lazy assholes that are not fighting but sending people to die.
Troops want to go home. Nobody that is sane WANTS to be in combat. a retreat or pull out increases morale and fighter vitality... they see a way to go home and want to actually get there alive.
and we have a list to put 2 marines with quietly to use and strategically strike the Taliban. Hell do it right and make it look like a bunch of sheepherders easily killed Taliban assassins sent to kill them and overnight they are no longer scary.
What moron in the military is not jumping on this opportunity?
Easier yet. install a matte anti glare screen protector and suddenly this goes away. It's been a "problem" for decades. if you wanted to you could dust a keypad for fingerprints and see the buttons that are the most used.
solution? wipe the screen regularly or dont use your ipad while eating barbecue ribs.
on mine they don't have the lights visible until they are on. and I typically see 5 of them on the side of the road with a little blonde in a SUV or other idiot that thought 95mph is correct for a 60mph construction zone.
$250 fine and a 45minute wait on the side of the road for being stupid enough to speed through construction areas in Michigan. The cops love them as they make it really easy to sort out the really dumb drivers.
We had a kid that did that speeding up and down the road. the old guy 4 house down got sick of it and sat in his car waiting for the little asshole to go speeding by and then he pulled out to block the road so the kid had to stop.. The little idiot smashed into the back of his car. Completely totaled that BMW 325 and the old rusted chevy caprice the old man drove was buckled to the rear window but he was unharmed. Kid went to the hospital and the cops later arrested the kid for reckless endangerment after talking to neighbors who all complained about how that car has been doing that for a month now.
Never saw the kid on our road again, although this was over 4 years ago.
Profit at the expense of quality. 99% of all corperations dont care about anything but next quarter. if I can piss off 30% of my customers but increase profits for next quarter then I am a freaking hero.
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Agreed, I have $110.00 Eagle GT II's on my pontiac fiero and I am certain I can eat his big heavy saloon BMW hard in the corners (and the straights with it's 528hp V8 I swapped in and added a turbo to bring me to 5lbs per HP makes it nearly twice as fast than his 9lbs per HP..) When I do track days I will swap to MT's simply for the grip, but they have a problem that 90% of drivers never understand. they grip hard until they cant anymore, then they let go completely. It's like you fell off a cliff. Granted my racing suspension that does not allow any body roll really exacerbates this. I actually prefer the warning I get from low cost tires like the Eagle GT-II tires.
Tires and wheels only help if the car is set up for performance cornering. $800.00 each MT's on a stock civic will not help it corner in any way.
There are few production cars set up for performance. Even the Corvette z06 is a utter dog in the corners compared to a car that is set up properly. I typically have corvette owners pissed that I destroy their track ET's and they cant figure out why I have zero body roll in the corners. It's the difference between a wrench turning racer and a checkbook racer.
If you want a fast cornering car, set up the car first, then get tires AND wheels. most stock wheels are garbage and flex way too much, and are too heavy. losing even 3 pounds per rim makes a huge difference.
That's why most people that are smart in those states have 2 sets of tires.
1 summer set.
1 winter set.
I like the high pressure low rolling resistance for summer. I have real winter tires for the winter.
Result? My honda civic has an easier time in snow than any 4WD SUV and their "all season" junk tires. (Yes, your $500.00 each boutique all season tires are JUNK!) I can go up icy hills that have an escalade owner crying over. I have regularly went through 2 foot of snowfall on the road without problem.
Snow traction is 80% tires, 20% driver skill, get some snow tires and own the road in the winter.
camber changes decrease tire scrubbing. you can also set the tires for zero toe and get even more increases. Problem is the car becomes nearly uncontrollable at highway speeds.
Have you ever driven a zero camber set car? They are twitchy as hell. even slight negative camber is still a challenge to drive. Considering what I observer daily in the lack of skill in driving that most of the population has, I really don't want to encourage making the job harder.
Yes Zero or slightly negative camber increases gas mileage and it has been done for decades for mileage challenges, and is certainly not new. Having driven a car that had zero camber setup for max fuel economy and running on tires that were at 72psi I can tell you I do NOT want 95% of the population driving such a car. It takes all your concentration and requires the power steering to be removed from the car to make it somewhat tolerable for a 5 hour drive.
You end up after 1 hour feeing exhausted and afraid to look at the instrument cluster.
REally...
tell that to the tons of guys that fight with it daily on the Pro recording boards.
The 2007 Mustang engine CAN NOT EVER be suped up to 1000hp.
That's the point. today's engines are at the top of their HP potential, they cant go much farther without blowing up. older engines could be brough to insane points without much changes... the 458 mentioned had forged pistons from the factory, so that was not needed to get to HP levels that arenuts.
The other thing is... 300hp in a 4100lb car is way WAY faster than 300hp in a 6800lb block of lead from the past. It's how a honda Civic Si with a turbo can utterly eat a Mustang GT on the road. It weighs a lot less. Crotch rocket bikes are not impressive, just light compared to the HP they have with them.
Weight to HP ratio is everything. Horsepower in a big heavy car is nothing to be impressed with until it get's to a 8pounds per HP point. Then it's impressive.
Your 2007 mustang is made from tinfoil and packing tape. the 1970 mustang was made from 3/4" plate steel, concrete, and lead. PLUS the engine was intentionally detuned. Those engines can be easily woke up to do 1HP per CuInch, your 2007 mustang is at the top of it's horsepower capabilities without adding a supercharger or turbo. a 1970 458 big block can easily reach 1000HP with a supercharger.
big difference.
??!? Huh?
Let's see.. 1975 :
VW bug 40mpg :23 mpg
Pinto : 34mpg
Plymouth Duster
3 of the MOST POPULAR cars in 1975. I.E. there was a crapload of them on the road, more than the SuperBee and Charger musclecars by a 60 to 1 ratio.
Sorry but fuel economy has went NOWHERE over the past 35 years. we had cars getting 20-s to 40mpg forever here in the usa and the bulk of people did not drive Musclecars and the Land-Yacht station wagons with giant big block V8's with 6 pack carbeurators.
Todays cars are more complex. they are NOT more efficient. In fact if you are trying to build yourself a high gas mileage car in the garage you will have a easier time of it if you go carbeurator instead of fuel injection.
grad-di-du-dated pub lick Hi Skool Cume Laude, Summa Cume laude in undergraduate college and just regular old normal graduate in grad school.
Granted I went to a Engineering and Science School. I discovered that the English majors had a harder time making friends because of their tendency to berate people.
Are you nuts?
"Home schooled kids don't generally have to put up with schoolyard bullies. They don't have to make friends. They don't learn about compromises and sharing and common interests the way you do when you're surrounded by other people all day long."
All the homeschooled kids around where I grew up dealt with all that.
The asshole kids that bullied also bullied the home-schooled kids, granted they did not get to deal with the imported bullies from across town, but a bully is a bully. and they made friends with kids that lived near them.. Plus many were in sports programs with the public school kids. You can be home schooled and play football for your local public school at the same time. They joined lots of extra curricular activities. Many of us were jealous as they typically had a 4 hour school day plus got to take "classes" we never got. One kid was taking a class at the local motorcycle shop for learning small engine repair at 13 years old.
I know you guys love your twisted view of homeschooled kids as all living in basements and named "wolfgang" or "moon-unit-alpha" and are never let outside... but it's not reality. in fact it's pretty darn close to racism in being flat out wrong.
THANK YOU!
My daughter had problems learning algebra until I told her to ignore everthing her teacher told her and taught her the old way that I learned in high school 20 years earlier.
She got it, and was acing tests until the teacher saw her doing it a different way.
Sorry but teaching something a retarded way that is confusing and flat out stupid is not the correct way. Teach them the easy to understand way.. Let's get worthless teachers out of the schools that think the newfangled methods are worth a damn.
There are a LOT of kids that graduate high school and cant read.
The american school system is utterly and royally S-C-R-E-W-E-D. Because everyone is afraid of holding a kid back.
Screw johnny's ego. Johnny is stupid, johnny needs to be told that and made to go through 6th grade again.
It says in the leaked documents there are marines hiding at each of these people houses?
why dont we just do it right.
Call Pakistan: round up all the taliban they got and deliver them to us in 7 days. if not we carpetbomb your entire country starting with every rich persons house and government offices, we offer a $10,000,000 bounty on each government officials head payable in cash as well.
figure out the general area we know the taliban are hiding and bomb the crap out of it for 30 days straight.
We honestly could have NUKED a country the week after 9/11 and the world would have not blinked.
This is how it all started in Vietnam. Documents leaked back to the states by upset servicemen. How it ended was officers getting fragged with servicemen tossing a grenade in the officers quarters while they sleep. Nasty officers sometimes coincidently got several. The american public was getting very outraged at the end of that war from the information leaked.
Just wait, if this war continues we will start hearing of troops killing their own officers.
Kill 1 man and it's murder. Kill 20,000 and it's a statistic.
History is written by the victors... A man that kills 20,000 is a hero to the winners if he is on the winning side. he is a war criminal only if they lose.
4. If President orders the troops to retreat, they'll be demoralized, which will make them fight less effectively.
NEVER in the history of man has a Retreat or pull out been demoralizing to anyone but the lazy assholes that are not fighting but sending people to die.
Troops want to go home. Nobody that is sane WANTS to be in combat. a retreat or pull out increases morale and fighter vitality... they see a way to go home and want to actually get there alive.
and we have a list to put 2 marines with quietly to use and strategically strike the Taliban. Hell do it right and make it look like a bunch of sheepherders easily killed Taliban assassins sent to kill them and overnight they are no longer scary.
What moron in the military is not jumping on this opportunity?
Easier yet. install a matte anti glare screen protector and suddenly this goes away. It's been a "problem" for decades. if you wanted to you could dust a keypad for fingerprints and see the buttons that are the most used.
solution? wipe the screen regularly or dont use your ipad while eating barbecue ribs.
on mine they don't have the lights visible until they are on. and I typically see 5 of them on the side of the road with a little blonde in a SUV or other idiot that thought 95mph is correct for a 60mph construction zone.
$250 fine and a 45minute wait on the side of the road for being stupid enough to speed through construction areas in Michigan. The cops love them as they make it really easy to sort out the really dumb drivers.
Or you can do what a guy down the road did.
We had a kid that did that speeding up and down the road. the old guy 4 house down got sick of it and sat in his car waiting for the little asshole to go speeding by and then he pulled out to block the road so the kid had to stop.. The little idiot smashed into the back of his car. Completely totaled that BMW 325 and the old rusted chevy caprice the old man drove was buckled to the rear window but he was unharmed. Kid went to the hospital and the cops later arrested the kid for reckless endangerment after talking to neighbors who all complained about how that car has been doing that for a month now.
Never saw the kid on our road again, although this was over 4 years ago.
Yoiu are missing one thing from that.
Profit at the expense of quality. 99% of all corperations dont care about anything but next quarter. if I can piss off 30% of my customers but increase profits for next quarter then I am a freaking hero.
Nothing. I use privoxy I already see no ad's on all websites.
Or only Quasi-evil.
Evil-lite.
just a little evil?
don't gnaw on your kitty.
What about the --enable-hal9000 switch?
Also why does ubuntu keep calling me dave? I'm not dave... Dang open source....
BRB It keeps opening the garage door and calling it a pod bay...