Amazon doe snot have to replace the current method. You want to print and sell CD's at live shows? Go ahead. What Amazon is offering is a way to sell CDs online, through a source that people trust.
The other difference is, it cost $999 to print 1000 CDs. Waht if you only sell 100? Well, if yo usell thme at $10 a pop, you'd have lost $599! Well, that blows now doesnt it... But, if you had gone through Amazon, you'd have made $400.
As you state, it might be better to sel lthem yourself over a certain number. But do you know that number? No, you don't.. So print a smaller number for live shows and then direct people to Amazon so that way you dont have to invest a lot of money in a venture that will most likely fail to begin with.
Large band like NIN can go off on their own because they have a decent fan following t oallwo them to do so. Most other artists need the marketing team of the RIA. 2% of 10 Million Albums might only be ~200K. But they more then make their money doing concerts or fro mtheir contract itself. If you want to make Millions and be a "large band" you need to marketing that the RIAA and Major Labels have to offer.
Mariah Carey might only get 2% from her album sales, but she gets ~10 Million just to record the album in the first place.
/Yes, there are exceptions that have made money/millions without labels, but there just that, exceptions. Marketing is important.
Yeah, and M.C. Hammer sold ~100K worth of albums out of his trunk before signign with a label.
The difference between mp3.com and amazon is that I, my mother, and my grandfather know about amazon.com. No one worries too much about buyign something through Amazon. Amazon is a distribution method is far better then a website that most don't know exists.
Yes Indies have been around forver, but this offers them an even better way to distribute their music. And even most "Indies" still sign with some label, they just sign with an Indie label.
1. No one listens to radio anymore (except maybe NPR)
I don't know about where you live, but none of te radio stations where I live had shut down becaue no one is listening to them.
Sure, There might be less listeners then before because of MP3 players and what not, but radio is not "going out of business" and still plays an important roll in exposing "The Next Big Artist/Albumn/Song"
I gladly shop with the people who took a little time to do the small things right.
That makes you a small minority, as most people shop at Wal*Mart
Well that was my comment till i read this part again:
All things being equal
What does that mean? IF all things are equal, then they both did the "small things right", right? I guess im being nit picky wit hords, as it just hit me that you meant "all other things being equal".
If all other thigns are equal, who wouldnt want the better product? The thing is, all other things are not equal. The one that did not do the "small things right" is probably cheaper. That takes us right back to Wal*Mart. People like cheap things that get the job done.
Whenever suits like this are brought up and the companies named as defendants are slapped with a fine, guess who ultimately coughs up the money?
That's right, the consumer.
It seems that these companies are selling products at a lower rate then they should be because they are not paying, or passing along the fees to consumers they should be. So you might possbile be getting the product for cheaper then you should be.
IS best buy raising the price for you if they charge you for stealing DVD's from their store?
Bad analogy aside, if there is a patent then the companies selling the product need to have purchased the rights to the patent. The patent holder went through the R&D to develope the technology, they do deserve to make some profit off that. otherwise, why do the R&D if others can sit back, let you waste your money, and then sell your product too without paying for the R&D or use of the patent?
But then, why have a team of developers spend months creating new dungeons, when you can have the office temp sit down for an hour or two and think up some stupid and time-consuming ways of getting people to recycle the same old content.
Like doing the same daily quests and heroic dungeons that have been done countless days, but now you did it with a NPC orphan following you!
The stupid GamerScore tells people nothing more than how much money you've wasted buying tons of shit games no one would normally want just to inflate your score. Absolutely disgusting to any real gamer. But not surprising coming from a company like Microsoft.
Obviously you're not a real gamer, because real gamers buy and master even the crappy games because you've got to be the best at all of them.
I agree. When playing games like DDO, it reminds me more of a Virtual Battlenet then a MMO. Instead of finding people to play a multiplayer game with in a chatroom, you're finding them in a 3d chatroom with avatars.
I too would enjoy the game you mention. Specially if you mixed in a little of the PvP and player cities of Shadowbane. But it isn't going to happen. A "hard" game is a nitch market and the big thing now is being the next "WoW Killer". WoW is easy, VERY easy. thign start out easy and then they make them even more easier over time. There are no negatives is the game. You die? jsut enter the instance you were in and boom, your alive again. repair? you probably earned more gold from trash mobs in the instance then you need to spend on repair. And if you didnt, do a few simple quests, that you can repeat over and over, and you've got more then you lost in repairs.
People like simple. They like to think they like hard, but they really jsut want the feelign of acomplishment that comes with winning. Because of that, games like WoW will be popular and games that you want will be a nitch market. The problem is, does any game company want to develope a game for 250K people? Or would they rather try and make a WoW clone and get 1000K+ people?
Sorry, the only thing that is important to gain from school anymore is the ability to pass multiple choice tests. Thats why they reward schools that focus on teachign that skill over any other, right?
So, does Phoenix get to count its suburbs too? Can they Add in Mesa, Tempe, Scottsdale, Glendale and the long list of other cities that are just part of "phoneix" too? I mean, you talking about a County, can we do all of Maricopa County?
I mean, weak argument. San Francisco is bigger then phoenix. No it isn't. Yes it is if you add these other cities populations to San Francisco's population. Umm ok?
I really wish people would stop bringing this up. McDonalds was sued, and lost, not because of a single incident but because they had known that their coffee was too hot and could result in severe burns and had chosen to ignore the problem till this lady was burned. Had it been coffee at a regular temperature, the law suit would have been dropped or lost.
I think others have brought up hat if your talented (or informed) enough to thwart a forensic investigator, that you are probably talented (or informed) enough to not get caught in the first place.
Looks like you left when all of the killing started. Those that enlist today will probably see more action, or at least do the same grunt work in an area with more action.
I'm was not a supporter of the invasion of Iraq, but there was little "negotiating with Iraq". They had been screwing around with Weapons Inspectors for a decade and there were certainly no signs of them stopping anytime soon. Negotiating is not always an option.
That said, there was still no reason to invade; they posed no threat to the US.
What if you collected toothpicks and it was a toothpick made by a company in 1850 that has long since gone out of business. Would the $50 be so outrageous then? You said "whole box of the same toothpicks", but that does not compare. You cannot get a whole box of that bottle of whisky. Why? because the distiller has long since gone out of business. As many have mentioned, your purchasing a rare collectors item and a piece of history more so then just a simpel bottle of liquor.
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Amazon doe snot have to replace the current method. You want to print and sell CD's at live shows? Go ahead. What Amazon is offering is a way to sell CDs online, through a source that people trust.
The other difference is, it cost $999 to print 1000 CDs. Waht if you only sell 100? Well, if yo usell thme at $10 a pop, you'd have lost $599! Well, that blows now doesnt it... But, if you had gone through Amazon, you'd have made $400.
As you state, it might be better to sel lthem yourself over a certain number. But do you know that number? No, you don't.. So print a smaller number for live shows and then direct people to Amazon so that way you dont have to invest a lot of money in a venture that will most likely fail to begin with.
Large band like NIN can go off on their own because they have a decent fan following t oallwo them to do so. Most other artists need the marketing team of the RIA. 2% of 10 Million Albums might only be ~200K. But they more then make their money doing concerts or fro mtheir contract itself. If you want to make Millions and be a "large band" you need to marketing that the RIAA and Major Labels have to offer.
/Yes, there are exceptions that have made money/millions without labels, but there just that, exceptions. Marketing is important.
Mariah Carey might only get 2% from her album sales, but she gets ~10 Million just to record the album in the first place.
A source that verifies this would be nice, but either way, this is the most imformational post on the subject of "No URLs" so far.
Yeah, and M.C. Hammer sold ~100K worth of albums out of his trunk before signign with a label.
The difference between mp3.com and amazon is that I, my mother, and my grandfather know about amazon.com. No one worries too much about buyign something through Amazon. Amazon is a distribution method is far better then a website that most don't know exists.
Yes Indies have been around forver, but this offers them an even better way to distribute their music. And even most "Indies" still sign with some label, they just sign with an Indie label.
1. No one listens to radio anymore (except maybe NPR)
I don't know about where you live, but none of te radio stations where I live had shut down becaue no one is listening to them.
Sure, There might be less listeners then before because of MP3 players and what not, but radio is not "going out of business" and still plays an important roll in exposing "The Next Big Artist/Albumn/Song"
Correction: $16,000 is above what someone making minimum wage earns for a years work at 40hrs a week. - So it is a years salary for one person.
Those words could be interchangeable, but you might not want to interchange them in all situations.
That makes you a small minority, as most people shop at Wal*Mart
Well that was my comment till i read this part again:
What does that mean? IF all things are equal, then they both did the "small things right", right? I guess im being nit picky wit hords, as it just hit me that you meant "all other things being equal".
If all other thigns are equal, who wouldnt want the better product? The thing is, all other things are not equal. The one that did not do the "small things right" is probably cheaper. That takes us right back to Wal*Mart. People like cheap things that get the job done.
As I said, ignore the actual analogy (because analogies are flawed) and focus more on the meaning of what I was talking about.
It seems that these companies are selling products at a lower rate then they should be because they are not paying, or passing along the fees to consumers they should be. So you might possbile be getting the product for cheaper then you should be.
IS best buy raising the price for you if they charge you for stealing DVD's from their store?
Bad analogy aside, if there is a patent then the companies selling the product need to have purchased the rights to the patent. The patent holder went through the R&D to develope the technology, they do deserve to make some profit off that. otherwise, why do the R&D if others can sit back, let you waste your money, and then sell your product too without paying for the R&D or use of the patent?
Like doing the same daily quests and heroic dungeons that have been done countless days, but now you did it with a NPC orphan following you!
Obviously you're not a real gamer, because real gamers buy and master even the crappy games because you've got to be the best at all of them.
I agree. When playing games like DDO, it reminds me more of a Virtual Battlenet then a MMO. Instead of finding people to play a multiplayer game with in a chatroom, you're finding them in a 3d chatroom with avatars.
I too would enjoy the game you mention. Specially if you mixed in a little of the PvP and player cities of Shadowbane. But it isn't going to happen. A "hard" game is a nitch market and the big thing now is being the next "WoW Killer". WoW is easy, VERY easy. thign start out easy and then they make them even more easier over time. There are no negatives is the game. You die? jsut enter the instance you were in and boom, your alive again. repair? you probably earned more gold from trash mobs in the instance then you need to spend on repair. And if you didnt, do a few simple quests, that you can repeat over and over, and you've got more then you lost in repairs.
People like simple. They like to think they like hard, but they really jsut want the feelign of acomplishment that comes with winning. Because of that, games like WoW will be popular and games that you want will be a nitch market. The problem is, does any game company want to develope a game for 250K people? Or would they rather try and make a WoW clone and get 1000K+ people?
Sorry, the only thing that is important to gain from school anymore is the ability to pass multiple choice tests. Thats why they reward schools that focus on teachign that skill over any other, right?
So, does Phoenix get to count its suburbs too? Can they Add in Mesa, Tempe, Scottsdale, Glendale and the long list of other cities that are just part of "phoneix" too? I mean, you talking about a County, can we do all of Maricopa County?
I mean, weak argument. San Francisco is bigger then phoenix. No it isn't. Yes it is if you add these other cities populations to San Francisco's population. Umm ok?
You do know that Phoenix is larger then San Jose or San Francisco, right?
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Can it be done? yes. But the cost would be very high; might be cheaper to pour bottled water from Circle K on your head to shower and to drink.
I really wish people would stop bringing this up. McDonalds was sued, and lost, not because of a single incident but because they had known that their coffee was too hot and could result in severe burns and had chosen to ignore the problem till this lady was burned. Had it been coffee at a regular temperature, the law suit would have been dropped or lost.
I think others have brought up hat if your talented (or informed) enough to thwart a forensic investigator, that you are probably talented (or informed) enough to not get caught in the first place.
Yeah, but the game changes to a bugs life.
Looks like you left when all of the killing started. Those that enlist today will probably see more action, or at least do the same grunt work in an area with more action.
I'm was not a supporter of the invasion of Iraq, but there was little "negotiating with Iraq". They had been screwing around with Weapons Inspectors for a decade and there were certainly no signs of them stopping anytime soon. Negotiating is not always an option.
That said, there was still no reason to invade; they posed no threat to the US.
Yeah, there is. However it's not nearly as intensive as it should be. But they do spend some time to "wind down" when returning home.
What if you collected toothpicks and it was a toothpick made by a company in 1850 that has long since gone out of business. Would the $50 be so outrageous then? You said "whole box of the same toothpicks", but that does not compare. You cannot get a whole box of that bottle of whisky. Why? because the distiller has long since gone out of business. As many have mentioned, your purchasing a rare collectors item and a piece of history more so then just a simpel bottle of liquor.