I didn't say I agreed with it, bit given the Boston Marathon bombing, you have to expect serious consequences right now for anything that gores boom. I doubt she will be found guilty of anything.
iANAL, but I when I was prosecuted for credit card fraud at 17 I was going to be tried as an adult, but I got a plea bargain. She'll most likely get the same thing.
As long as they vote the way their consituents want them to, I think they are effectively doing their job correctly. It's only when they take corporate money, and don't listen to the people that they are doing it wrong.
This wasn't an official science project, she was mixing chemicals outside in the schoolyard. Not in a science fair, not in controlled classroom setting.
Is it still a gross overreaction, I have to say yes, but lets face it after the last week, anytime something goes boom around a populated area, the person who causes the boom is going to be found guilty until they prove they are innocent. I feel like she should be punished, not expelled, and sure as shouldn't have a felony, but she's under 18, so her record will be sealed, and it won't affect her chances in life. Plus since she has no former history, she'll probably be allowed to plea to a lesser charge and get off with a fine.
That's what I've been preaching for the last few months. Politicians listen to money, because the people don't take the time to make them listen.
My own state is an example of this. We contacted a democrat and had him vote against the recent gun control legislation. Did he do this because we asked him to? Did he do this because the NRA promised him big checks? Only time will tell. But at least in this instance, he voted what I can only assume is the will of the loudest people. (I also believe in my southern state, they are the largest voting block put together) Write your Senators, your Reps, your President. You may not have voted for them, but they still need to listen to your concerns.
Corporations have money, yes, but they can't vote. Only the people can vote, and if they do, politicians will listen.
The thing that gets to Christians is not so much being put down because of religion, but IMO it's because they always point to the Crusades, or some other travesty that occurred years ago. Yes, the Crusades were a terrible blight on the world, but they had less to do with religion and more to do with power. Nowhere in the New Testament will you see anywhere that it says to go and attack people who don't beleive the same as you do. Unlike some other war-like religions that do that now.
I've not read enough to have a comment on the Scot's. I would have to read up on that to continue this debate. But again, anytime a "Christian" blows something up and blames it on his "faith", he's lying. While I don't believe the same as most of other Christians with the turn the other cheek comments in the Bible, I also don't agree with killing those who have a different faith.
I'm truly curious about this. Don't the laws of supply and demand state that if the overall wage goes down, purchasing power goes down, and then prices must fall to match? I know this won't work in our current society of government mandated prices for commodities (through subsidies for farmers and such), but in a truly free market society would this not work?
Yeah, that's what I was scrolling down to find, someone else who RTFA. With the problems XBOX live has off and on on the weekends, I'd be pissed if I couldn't play, because the servers were down on a Saturday.
I agree, the fall out (no pun intended) of such an explosion in China will be felt the world over. The deaths alone from a failure will be astronomical. While I'm not opposed to nuclear power, I'm opposed to people doing it wrong.
I know, you make a really good point. As much as I advocate voting and contacting elected reps, I really need to do the same with my corporate dollars.
The question is does the service cost less if you buy an unlocked phone?
It's why I (as a USian) buy the carrier-locked phones. Am I truly happy with AT&T, not really, but all the providers are pretty much the same. Sprint and T-Mobile are starting to differentiate themselves a little bit, but not enough to switch. But whether I buy an unlocked phone or a locked phone, I'm still going to pay the same price for voice and data service every month. So I might as well take the $500 discount on the phone upfront and still pay the same price in the end for the service.
I would like to disagree with you, one of my senators is a democrat and he voted against the amendments yesterday this was a direct result of a concerted effort to contact him and let him know where his constituents stood. But it could've been NRA money that changed his mind. Only time will tell.
The right people can be voted in to power, but you have to start at the local level and you have to keep up a running dialogue with them. You also have to spend your time, your money, and your energy to make sure they get elected. That's the problem with the American political system, the people are too lazy to do anything, but complain.
I also can't remember a massive terror attack on Canada. There are a lot of things we can learn from the Canadians. Stay out of foreign affairs being the big one.
In the New town shooting, the shooter didn't purchase a gun, he stole them from his mother.. So what database or background check would have helped? I'm not sure any law would help keep a criminal from being a criminal.
Don't we have wrongful death laws for this? By all means if an owner of a weapon can't prove that he did everything in his power to keep control of his weapons, then I agree they should be prosecuted.
Keeping guns locked up is a good idea, and not having guns in a house with people with known mental instabilities is an even better idea. I'm just not sure we need to spend legislative effort on creating laws. We should enforce the current ones, although getting rid of the gun show loophole is a good idea.
I'm truly curious what background check will keep someone from stealing another person's legally obtained weapon?
Are you suggesting that if you have a family member with issues (I wanted to type "crazy", but that's derogatory IMO) then you shouldn't be able to pass a background check? Where does this kind of logic end and what personal liberties are you willing to forgo to allow a database of this size to happen?
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I didn't say I agreed with it, bit given the Boston Marathon bombing, you have to expect serious consequences right now for anything that gores boom. I doubt she will be found guilty of anything.
iANAL, but I when I was prosecuted for credit card fraud at 17 I was going to be tried as an adult, but I got a plea bargain. She'll most likely get the same thing.
Damn, I wish I had mod points. That may be the best explanation I ever heard.
As long as they vote the way their consituents want them to, I think they are effectively doing their job correctly. It's only when they take corporate money, and don't listen to the people that they are doing it wrong.
As usual TFS doesn't really do this justice.
This wasn't an official science project, she was mixing chemicals outside in the schoolyard. Not in a science fair, not in controlled classroom setting.
Is it still a gross overreaction, I have to say yes, but lets face it after the last week, anytime something goes boom around a populated area, the person who causes the boom is going to be found guilty until they prove they are innocent. I feel like she should be punished, not expelled, and sure as shouldn't have a felony, but she's under 18, so her record will be sealed, and it won't affect her chances in life. Plus since she has no former history, she'll probably be allowed to plea to a lesser charge and get off with a fine.
That's what I've been preaching for the last few months. Politicians listen to money, because the people don't take the time to make them listen.
My own state is an example of this. We contacted a democrat and had him vote against the recent gun control legislation. Did he do this because we asked him to? Did he do this because the NRA promised him big checks? Only time will tell. But at least in this instance, he voted what I can only assume is the will of the loudest people. (I also believe in my southern state, they are the largest voting block put together) Write your Senators, your Reps, your President. You may not have voted for them, but they still need to listen to your concerns.
Corporations have money, yes, but they can't vote. Only the people can vote, and if they do, politicians will listen.
The thing that gets to Christians is not so much being put down because of religion, but IMO it's because they always point to the Crusades, or some other travesty that occurred years ago. Yes, the Crusades were a terrible blight on the world, but they had less to do with religion and more to do with power. Nowhere in the New Testament will you see anywhere that it says to go and attack people who don't beleive the same as you do. Unlike some other war-like religions that do that now.
I've not read enough to have a comment on the Scot's. I would have to read up on that to continue this debate. But again, anytime a "Christian" blows something up and blames it on his "faith", he's lying. While I don't believe the same as most of other Christians with the turn the other cheek comments in the Bible, I also don't agree with killing those who have a different faith.
Yeah, I realized, it was a stupid question.
I'm truly curious about this. Don't the laws of supply and demand state that if the overall wage goes down, purchasing power goes down, and then prices must fall to match? I know this won't work in our current society of government mandated prices for commodities (through subsidies for farmers and such), but in a truly free market society would this not work?
Yeah, that's what I was scrolling down to find, someone else who RTFA. With the problems XBOX live has off and on on the weekends, I'd be pissed if I couldn't play, because the servers were down on a Saturday.
I was gonna suggest lawyers and lobbyists that ensure the government picks up the liablity.
That way the consumer's still happy, and keeps using the card, no matter how many times it gets stolen.
Yeah, as usual the titles on Slashdot suck.
I agree, the fall out (no pun intended) of such an explosion in China will be felt the world over. The deaths alone from a failure will be astronomical. While I'm not opposed to nuclear power, I'm opposed to people doing it wrong.
I know, you make a really good point. As much as I advocate voting and contacting elected reps, I really need to do the same with my corporate dollars.
Corporations don't make any sense. If they make you sign a contract and lock the phone, then they can screw you both ways.
The question is does the service cost less if you buy an unlocked phone?
It's why I (as a USian) buy the carrier-locked phones. Am I truly happy with AT&T, not really, but all the providers are pretty much the same. Sprint and T-Mobile are starting to differentiate themselves a little bit, but not enough to switch. But whether I buy an unlocked phone or a locked phone, I'm still going to pay the same price for voice and data service every month. So I might as well take the $500 discount on the phone upfront and still pay the same price in the end for the service.
I hadn't heard of that one from Heinlein, I'll have to read it.
I agree that its a time consuming effort, but it has to start somewhere.
I would like to disagree with you, one of my senators is a democrat and he voted against the amendments yesterday this was a direct result of a concerted effort to contact him and let him know where his constituents stood. But it could've been NRA money that changed his mind. Only time will tell.
The right people can be voted in to power, but you have to start at the local level and you have to keep up a running dialogue with them. You also have to spend your time, your money, and your energy to make sure they get elected. That's the problem with the American political system, the people are too lazy to do anything, but complain.
Touche.
I also can't remember a massive terror attack on Canada. There are a lot of things we can learn from the Canadians. Stay out of foreign affairs being the big one.
In the New town shooting, the shooter didn't purchase a gun, he stole them from his mother.. So what database or background check would have helped? I'm not sure any law would help keep a criminal from being a criminal.
Don't we have wrongful death laws for this? By all means if an owner of a weapon can't prove that he did everything in his power to keep control of his weapons, then I agree they should be prosecuted.
Keeping guns locked up is a good idea, and not having guns in a house with people with known mental instabilities is an even better idea. I'm just not sure we need to spend legislative effort on creating laws. We should enforce the current ones, although getting rid of the gun show loophole is a good idea.
I'm truly curious what background check will keep someone from stealing another person's legally obtained weapon?
Are you suggesting that if you have a family member with issues (I wanted to type "crazy", but that's derogatory IMO) then you shouldn't be able to pass a background check? Where does this kind of logic end and what personal liberties are you willing to forgo to allow a database of this size to happen?
I hope they are found and strung up by the neck in the square for all to see. Yes IAARNS (I am a red neck southerner)