If someone will contact Theo de Raadt ...
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...inform him he has been presented with an opportunity to obtain additional funding for the OpenBSD project, with many thanks to the copyright violation perpetrated by Scott Charney. "Secure by Default" is the intellectual property of the OpenBSD project. The footer of the OpenBSD homepage clearly indicates a copyright notice, and the evidence of violation can be found here:
http://www.openbsd.org/security.html#default
So, looks like Microsoft will have to settle for SD2.
--- If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?
Not to rip particularly on you, but that's what's wrong with today's general attitude: "...when I'm tired of this work." Today, no one wants to own up to any form of commitment...professional or personal. Companies cannot count on one person for a full career (30-35 years). Take a job. Stay with that job. Work hard at that job. Show commitment. You may not think you are receiving the reward you deserve, but, guess what, everyone else feels the same. Sometimes you are rewarded, and sometimes 10 "at-a-boys" cannot make up for one "oh, shit!" But that's life. IT != VP. VP = MINIMAL COLLEGE WORK && KISSING ASS && (!MOTIVATION). I'm sure everyone understands that. Unfortunately, the common employee now-a-days cannot make president of the company. They prefer the skilled personnel (I graduated with a degree in business adminstration; whoo-hoo!). Yeah, it's a crock. The higher level management thinks that because they "know" (guffaw) how business works, they make superior managers. First, I was a chemical engineer for 2-1/2 years at one of the hardest schools in the nation for CHEG. It was not for me. I realized this. CS was more me. And I look forward to graduating with a degree in CS. But the sad fact is, you cannot even make VP now-a-days without a business administration degree (what a crock; put them onto REAL work an see how they do). But we still need dedicated people to fulfill the jobs that are out there; we do not need people who float from company to company, "...when I'm tired of this work."
Yes, most colleges you might have the choice of attending are in the business only for fun and profit. You may be somewhat peeved by this. Okay, you may be really pissed by this. But, there is one thing a college can offer you after all the bureaucracy and painstaking torments you might endure: a degree. One fellow mentioned earlier that a college degree shows you can do the work. Very true. With the happy-go-lucky attitude of today's IT bound professionals, this is all I have to say, "Enjoy." There is not a future in the profession, there is not a hope of proceeding, there is not a hope of progressing. Good for you. Take that $225,000 you made in three years (minus 45% in federal, state, and local taxes), and put yourself into college. Believe it or not: college is the only method of advancement; given you choose your path wisely. Any IT professional can graduate with a four year degree in art history (suck on that, Sasha), but, here's the kicker: how many IT pros w/o college degrees (for that matter less than M.De.) can testify. Absolutely 0! Who's the first to be laid off? Why, the people who do not have the credentials.
Not to digress on a rant (too late), college teaches you theory. College does not prepare you for the real world; college prepares you for graduate and professor positions. But, theory is still the basis of all professional development. If you cannot understand the theory (the low-level issues), then how can you possibly understand the developments from that.
Maybe I'm just old-fashioned. While I still believe that the greatest computer scientists are applied mathematicians (graduating 2001 BS CISC and MATH minor, continuing graduate MATH), most people today are still worried about the here and now. I say to hell with that. Look towards the future. Is a few years as an IT professional (say, for instance, 5) going to possibly match the prospects of a REAL computer scientist with 30 years for a company at $50,000? Yeah, you might be able to find another job after 5 years. But what happens when the bottom drops out (and it will,.com is dying rapidly; like it or love it)? What will you have behind you then? What can you brag about? All good things WILL come to an end, and you may not know when your time is up. But I know at least that my future has been secured. Not only because I'm a (soon to be) college graduate, but I plan on continuing my education. Thank you for you time (it don't matter, because anyone making it this far is probably not an IT "pro")
The Godfather
"Eagles may sore, but at least weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines..."
I have used Debian for four months now, and started using it when I found a lot of bugs using RedHat 5.2. While RedHat is slowly becoming the leading voice for the Linux community, I have found that RedHat is leaning too much towards commercialization and lacks the considerable quality the Debian development team has put into their work.
Let me make a case of this. I started learning to use Linux about two years ago with Slackware 2.7.
Then someone suggested RedHat to me. I tried it and liked it, especially because I thought RPM was a good step up from Slackware's lack of package management. But, I did have numerous hardware and software configuration problems with RedHat (starting with version 5.0). In addition, I hated having to perform constant manual searches to fulfill package dependencies, and some of the scripting changes required for PPP connections and firewalling are somewhat perverse. That's not a worthwhile use of anyone's time.
When someone in the local LUG convinced me to change to Debian, I gave it a shot. After installing the 7 base diskettes, I performed an FTP APT installation over a 56K dialup connection (and, thanks to APT, knew exactly what I was getting with each package, unlike RPM). If you ever tried to do an FTP installation of RedHat using PPP, don't even think about getting it to work. I knew what I was installing, knew automatically all dependencies were resolved, and was able download and install a 125 MB system in less than 12 hours, without any additional intervention! After that, I could add packages later as I pleased.
I had a working Linux box with all the previous functionality of my RedHat system in less than a day (which includes the installation time)! And to retort some people's accusation that Debian is not a good distribution, I had ipchains up and working for my firewall without any intervention AT ALL (due to the way Debian designed the ip masquerading scripts to work when you had a working LAN and PPP connection). I would like to see RedHat even attempt to due that, and many other things.
So, while not trying to come off sounding like an obsessive-compulsive, die hard "Debian rocks" user, good luck to all those RedHat users in your eternal search for the RPM to cure that broken dependency.
Please do a little more looking into subjects before posting a comment on something you are not fully informed on. Silicon Graphics announced about two months ago that it was considering using Debian Linux as its officially supported version of Linux to replace its Irix OS in SGI workstations (and jump onto the Linux bandwagon). This is because Irix was designed to be a little too robust for use in their workstations (it works optimally in their high-end servers). SGI has already released one or two of their regular commercial products under a special license for free use in the x86 Linux platform (with releases geared for Slackware, RedHat, and, of course, Debian).
On a personal note, I have used Debian for four months now, and started using it when I found a lot of bugs using RedHat 5.2. While RedHat is slowly becoming the leading voice for the Linux community, I have found that RedHat is leaning too much towards commercialization and lacks the considerable quality the Debian development team has put into their work.
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...inform him he has been presented with an opportunity to obtain additional funding for the OpenBSD project, with many thanks to the copyright violation perpetrated by Scott Charney. "Secure by Default" is the intellectual property of the OpenBSD project. The footer of the OpenBSD homepage clearly indicates a copyright notice, and the evidence of violation can be found here:
http://www.openbsd.org/security.html#default
So, looks like Microsoft will have to settle for SD2.
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If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?
Not to rip particularly on you, but that's what's wrong with today's general attitude: "...when I'm tired of this work." Today, no one wants to own up to any form of commitment...professional or personal. Companies cannot count on one person for a full career (30-35 years). Take a job. Stay with that job. Work hard at that job. Show commitment. You may not think you are receiving the reward you deserve, but, guess what, everyone else feels the same. Sometimes you are rewarded, and sometimes 10 "at-a-boys" cannot make up for one "oh, shit!" But that's life. IT != VP. VP = MINIMAL COLLEGE WORK && KISSING ASS && (!MOTIVATION). I'm sure everyone understands that. Unfortunately, the common employee now-a-days cannot make president of the company. They prefer the skilled personnel (I graduated with a degree in business adminstration; whoo-hoo!). Yeah, it's a crock. The higher level management thinks that because they "know" (guffaw) how business works, they make superior managers. First, I was a chemical engineer for 2-1/2 years at one of the hardest schools in the nation for CHEG. It was not for me. I realized this. CS was more me. And I look forward to graduating with a degree in CS. But the sad fact is, you cannot even make VP now-a-days without a business administration degree (what a crock; put them onto REAL work an see how they do). But we still need dedicated people to fulfill the jobs that are out there; we do not need people who float from company to company, "...when I'm tired of this work."
Yes, most colleges you might have the choice of attending are in the business only for fun and profit. You may be somewhat peeved by this. Okay, you may be really pissed by this. But, there is one thing a college can offer you after all the bureaucracy and painstaking torments you might endure: a degree. One fellow mentioned earlier that a college degree shows you can do the work. Very true. With the happy-go-lucky attitude of today's IT bound professionals, this is all I have to say, "Enjoy." There is not a future in the profession, there is not a hope of proceeding, there is not a hope of progressing. Good for you. Take that $225,000 you made in three years (minus 45% in federal, state, and local taxes), and put yourself into college. Believe it or not: college is the only method of advancement; given you choose your path wisely. Any IT professional can graduate with a four year degree in art history (suck on that, Sasha), but, here's the kicker: how many IT pros w/o college degrees (for that matter less than M.De.) can testify. Absolutely 0! Who's the first to be laid off? Why, the people who do not have the credentials. Not to digress on a rant (too late), college teaches you theory. College does not prepare you for the real world; college prepares you for graduate and professor positions. But, theory is still the basis of all professional development. If you cannot understand the theory (the low-level issues), then how can you possibly understand the developments from that. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned. While I still believe that the greatest computer scientists are applied mathematicians (graduating 2001 BS CISC and MATH minor, continuing graduate MATH), most people today are still worried about the here and now. I say to hell with that. Look towards the future. Is a few years as an IT professional (say, for instance, 5) going to possibly match the prospects of a REAL computer scientist with 30 years for a company at $50,000? Yeah, you might be able to find another job after 5 years. But what happens when the bottom drops out (and it will, .com is dying rapidly; like it or love it)? What will you have behind you then? What can you brag about? All good things WILL come to an end, and you may not know when your time is up. But I know at least that my future has been secured. Not only because I'm a (soon to be) college graduate, but I plan on continuing my education. Thank you for you time (it don't matter, because anyone making it this far is probably not an IT "pro")
The Godfather
"Eagles may sore, but at least weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines..."
I have used Debian for four months now, and started using it when I found a lot of bugs using RedHat 5.2. While RedHat is slowly becoming the leading voice for the Linux community, I have found that RedHat is leaning too much towards commercialization and lacks the considerable quality the Debian development team has put into their work.
Let me make a case of this. I started learning to use Linux about two years ago with Slackware 2.7.
Then someone suggested RedHat to me. I tried it and liked it, especially because I thought RPM was a good step up from Slackware's lack of package management. But, I did have numerous hardware and software configuration problems with RedHat (starting with version 5.0). In addition, I hated having to perform constant manual searches to fulfill package dependencies, and some of the scripting changes required for PPP connections and firewalling are somewhat perverse. That's not a worthwhile use of anyone's time.
When someone in the local LUG convinced me to change to Debian, I gave it a shot. After installing the 7 base diskettes, I performed an FTP APT installation over a 56K dialup connection (and, thanks to APT, knew exactly what I was getting with each package, unlike RPM). If you ever tried to do an FTP installation of RedHat using PPP, don't even think about getting it to work. I knew what I was installing, knew automatically all dependencies were resolved, and was able download and install a 125 MB system in less than 12 hours, without any additional intervention! After that, I could add packages later as I pleased.
I had a working Linux box with all the previous functionality of my RedHat system in less than a day (which includes the installation time)! And to retort some people's accusation that Debian is not a good distribution, I had ipchains up and working for my firewall without any intervention AT ALL (due to the way Debian designed the ip masquerading scripts to work when you had a working LAN and PPP connection). I would like to see RedHat even attempt to due that, and many other things.
So, while not trying to come off sounding like an obsessive-compulsive, die hard "Debian rocks" user, good luck to all those RedHat users in your eternal search for the RPM to cure that broken dependency.
Finis.
Please do a little more looking into subjects before posting a comment on something you are not fully informed on. Silicon Graphics announced about two months ago that it was considering using Debian Linux as its officially supported version of Linux to replace its Irix OS in SGI workstations (and jump onto the Linux bandwagon). This is because Irix was designed to be a little too robust for use in their workstations (it works optimally in their high-end servers). SGI has already released one or two of their regular commercial products under a special license for free use in the x86 Linux platform (with releases geared for Slackware, RedHat, and, of course, Debian).
On a personal note, I have used Debian for four months now, and started using it when I found a lot of bugs using RedHat 5.2. While RedHat is slowly becoming the leading voice for the Linux community, I have found that RedHat is leaning too much towards commercialization and lacks the considerable quality the Debian development team has put into their work.