Now I guess we'll have to find something to do withour extra listserv capacity. Our zmail server had done as much as 1.2 million deliveries in day on a P2 running linux.
So the FSF wrote 10% of the code, which is the most. It is arguambly the most critical part of the system, and it certainly "deserves" recognition on the order of Linus himself. Therefore, (I claim) this "survey" is essentially meaningless.
You dismiss the fact that most of the software that is under the GPL is irrelevant. Certainly it may make them able to claim less credit, but it isn't irrelevant.
The thing that's silly here is the name game. GNU, as a name, is essentially meaningless. Linux, as a name is also meaningless. Everyone who cares knows that Linux == GNU/Linux. Even people who don't care recognise the importance of FSF in the role of the development of Linux.
But RMS is not the only one who is guilty of the name game. The silly Open Source people can also be accused of it.
In the end, I really wish RMS would just give up. It's an essentially meaningless debate, and for all intents and purposes can be ignored, except when talking directly to RMS. The way RMS is acting stikes me as fairly immature, but people on the other side of the issue are giving me fewer and fewer reasons to side with them.
This is all very very stupid. Linux needs GNU (despite idiotic claims to the contrary), GNU need linux, let's all recogize that and get on with it.
Maybe if someone
(i.e. Linus) would say: yes Linux is really GNU/Linux, but we're sticking with the old name for convention, and we're declare a special linux holiday devoted to recognize RMS and the FSF, like say "GNU Awareness Month."
Or how about that the nux in Linux stands for GNU.
Yes, it's all very silly, but really, it's all silly.
1) The "look and feel" lawsuit. 2) Proprietary, undocumented hardware. 3) Killing off the clones after they became cheaper and better than Apple hardware. 4) Insipid marketing.
Really, after the whole gulf bombing fiasco, it seems as though people have a hair trigger response to whatever sengan posts. If someone had said: I don't like closed source software, but here's an article on blah-blah-blah, no one would object. There are probably a number of people who disagree with that viewpoint who read Slashdot, but the article is still relavant.
Actually after first reading it, I was going to complain that the post didn't make any sense, but I see the reson is that I read it after it had its "I don't like weapons"-ectomy. I was also surprised that the poster ( I didn't look at who it was at first) didn't mention that open source software was being used for military purposes.
Personally, If I wrote OSS that was taken by the military and used to deliver bombs, I'd have a bit of an internal crisis to deal with. I'd bet that I'm not alone, nort in a very small minority in feeling this way.
I don't think the Sengan is any more editorial than anyone else (in general) and I really think that people should get off his back.
Maybe Rob should implement a killfile so people can filter out posters they think are "offensive," but honestly I think that the loud complainers should just become a little more tolerant of people who don't share their viewpoint.
Persnally, I'm more irritated at the person who expurgated Sengans article.
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Now I guess we'll have to find something to do withour extra listserv capacity. Our zmail server had done as much as 1.2 million deliveries in day on a P2 running linux.
So the FSF wrote 10% of the code, which is the most. It is arguambly the most critical part of the system, and it certainly "deserves" recognition on the order of Linus himself. Therefore, (I claim) this "survey" is essentially meaningless.
You dismiss the fact that most of the software that is under the GPL is irrelevant. Certainly it may make them able to claim less credit, but it isn't irrelevant.
The thing that's silly here is the name game. GNU, as a name, is essentially meaningless. Linux, as a name is also meaningless. Everyone who cares knows that Linux == GNU/Linux. Even people who don't care recognise the importance of FSF in the role of the development of Linux.
But RMS is not the only one who is guilty of the name game. The silly Open Source people can also be accused of it.
In the end, I really wish RMS would just give up. It's an essentially meaningless debate, and for all intents and purposes can be ignored, except when talking directly to RMS. The way RMS is acting stikes me as fairly immature, but people on the other side of the issue are giving me fewer and fewer reasons to side with them.
This is all very very stupid. Linux needs GNU (despite idiotic claims to the contrary), GNU need linux, let's all recogize that and get on with it.
Maybe if someone
(i.e. Linus) would say: yes Linux is really GNU/Linux, but we're sticking with the old name for convention, and we're declare a special linux holiday devoted to recognize RMS and the FSF, like say "GNU Awareness Month."
Or how about that the nux in Linux stands for GNU.
Yes, it's all very silly, but really, it's all silly.
I don't care, please just stop this nonsense.
I wonder how hard the codec would be to reverse enginneer.
;)
Hell, the codec modules are around 5K.
You could practically brute force it.
Maybe it's an oblique reference to Alan Cox's essay.
1) The "look and feel" lawsuit.
2) Proprietary, undocumented hardware.
3) Killing off the clones after they became cheaper and better than Apple hardware.
4) Insipid marketing.
I won't even go into software/UI religion.
> Mr. Myhrvold says he giggles frequently [...]
I have to say, this statement made me giggle too.
>IT IS NOT A CURE FOR DISEASE.
I used to have these awful boils all over my body before I used Linux. Now they're much better.
Really, after the whole gulf bombing fiasco, it seems as though people have a hair trigger response to whatever sengan posts. If someone had said: I don't like closed source software, but here's an article on blah-blah-blah, no one would object. There are probably a number of people who disagree with that viewpoint who read Slashdot, but the article is still relavant.
Actually after first reading it, I was going to complain that the post didn't make any sense, but I see the reson is that I read it after it had its "I don't like weapons"-ectomy. I was also surprised that the poster ( I didn't look at who it was at first) didn't mention that open source software was being used for military purposes.
Personally, If I wrote OSS that was taken by the military and used to deliver bombs, I'd have a bit of an internal crisis to deal with. I'd bet that I'm not alone, nort in a very small minority in feeling this way.
I don't think the Sengan is any more editorial than anyone else (in general) and I really think that people should get off his back.
Maybe Rob should implement a killfile so people can filter out posters they think are "offensive," but honestly I think that the loud complainers should just become a little more tolerant of people who don't share their viewpoint.
Persnally, I'm more irritated at the person who expurgated Sengans article.