"C/C++" is not a language. C is a language. C++ is a language. Each have various versions and implementations, with various quirks.
There is no "C/C++".
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Why would getting good performance out of of things that require using the full word length on a platform be a problem?
I believe the issue the poster was referring to was that unboxed integers in ocaml are one bit smaller than the equivalent C integer. If you want a real word-sized integer, it needs to be wrapped up for the GC (aka "boxed"). Though an array of such values only needs to be wrapped up once, so this is only an issue for using word-sized integers on their own.
But I'm not convinced that this is a serious problem in practice.
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That's odd, using cl.exe for many years, compiling things seemed pretty slow to me. Of course, that was using VC++ 5, so perhaps it's gotten amazingly better.
Precompiled headers has always seemed to me like a brittle kludge, but hey, if they can get it to work, I guess I have no substantive complaint.
What would be an example of a software-libre for which plugins are vital?
What do you mean by reflection in the context of a C++ program?
For what tasks do you need to use the full word length, but not in an array?
And about run-time performance: ocaml is slower than C, but if you use STL with GCC, C++ is often even slower. And for many applications, performance isn't the most important thing -- correctness and programmer productivity are important too.
So no, I would not write a database or a kernel in ocaml, but why not (for example) a word processor?
Are you using sawfish? Or does some other program exist that uses rep-gtk?
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Yes, C++ takes bloody forever to compile (standard example: Mozilla). This is because C++ is a horrifically complex language, and uses textual inclusion of source code as a standard mechanism. For many applications, ocaml is a suitable replacement for C++. Your source code will be shorter, more correct, and compile much more quickly.
Wind power can kill birds. Builders of wind turbines have actually reduced the speed at which the blades turn (gearing them down more) to reduce this problem.
You all need to go into this on equal footing, or the power relationships of your little company will screw up the personal relationships you had with these people.
The neutrons are not contained by the magnetic field, and fly right through the vacuum vessel. Unfortuantely, a few get absorbed by the vessel, gradually weakening it and turning it into low-grade rad waste. But it's not the end of the world, and big-time accidents (chernobyl style) are impossible because you only have a few seconds of fuel in the vessel.
Yep. Venting a few grams of tritium up a smokestack will not harm anyone.
Big accidents are not possible with fusion, because you don't keep lots of fuel in the reactor at one time. The reason fission is dangerous is that you have to keep a year's supply of fuel in the reactor. And if the reaction goes too fast, you can get a year's worth of energy in a few seconds.
The not-very-malicious worms that we've seen exploiting e.g. the NT RPC vuln are good things, IMO. They encourage admins to patch their systems, giving black hats less opportunity to do real damage.
Sigh... Remeber when paying $9 was sufficient to get a commercial free experience? Voting with my wallet is difficult because I don't (yet) want to give up on movie theaters and don't know of any movie theaters that don't put this crap on...
Don't you know about the miracle of the efficient market?
If people don't like movies, they just buy a bunch of land in an urban area, build a huge building, and run their own movie theater! I mean, anyone can do that!
The real trouble with movies is excessive government regulation. If only movie companies were free to maximize their profits, movie quality would be much better!
The US government is in negotiations to get back involved with ITER. ITER is the big international magnetic confinement fusion experiment. The US government pulled out in the mid-nineties after Newt Gingrich's congress greatly reduced DOE's research budget.
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"The station is a testbed for long-duration missions to live and work on the Moon and Mars"
More like, "The station is a tremendous waste of money."
"C/C++" is not a language. C is a language. C++ is a language. Each have various versions and implementations, with various quirks.
There is no "C/C++".
Why would getting good performance out of of things that require using the full word length on a platform be a problem?
I believe the issue the poster was referring to was that unboxed integers in ocaml are one bit smaller than the equivalent C integer. If you want a real word-sized integer, it needs to be wrapped up for the GC (aka "boxed"). Though an array of such values only needs to be wrapped up once, so this is only an issue for using word-sized integers on their own.
But I'm not convinced that this is a serious problem in practice.
That's odd, using cl.exe for many years, compiling things seemed pretty slow to me. Of course, that was using VC++ 5, so perhaps it's gotten amazingly better.
Precompiled headers has always seemed to me like a brittle kludge, but hey, if they can get it to work, I guess I have no substantive complaint.
What would be an example of a software-libre for which plugins are vital?
What do you mean by reflection in the context of a C++ program?
For what tasks do you need to use the full word length, but not in an array?
And about run-time performance: ocaml is slower than C, but if you use STL with GCC, C++ is often even slower. And for many applications, performance isn't the most important thing -- correctness and programmer productivity are important too.
So no, I would not write a database or a kernel in ocaml, but why not (for example) a word processor?
rep-gtk!!!
Are you using sawfish? Or does some other program exist that uses rep-gtk?
Yes, C++ takes bloody forever to compile (standard example: Mozilla). This is because C++ is a horrifically complex language, and uses textual inclusion of source code as a standard mechanism. For many applications, ocaml is a suitable replacement for C++. Your source code will be shorter, more correct, and compile much more quickly.
The combination of InnoDB and replication makes it easy for me to sleep well.
Wow, collision of theory and practice can be painful, huh?
Wind power can kill birds. Builders of wind turbines have actually reduced the speed at which the blades turn (gearing them down more) to reduce this problem.
Also, city water systems are unfair competition for bottled water companies!
PF is already in -current. It won't be in 2.0, though.
You all need to go into this on equal footing, or the power relationships of
your little company will screw up the personal relationships you had with these
people.
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The neutrons are not contained by the magnetic field, and fly right through the
vacuum vessel. Unfortuantely, a few get absorbed by the vessel, gradually
weakening it and turning it into low-grade rad waste. But it's not the end of
the world, and big-time accidents (chernobyl style) are impossible because you
only have a few seconds of fuel in the vessel.
What are you concerned about? It's a lot less dangerous than a car.
It's an experiment. Nobody insisted that the Wright Brothers run a profitable
airline using their prototypes.
Yep. Venting a few grams of tritium up a smokestack will not harm anyone.
Big accidents are not possible with fusion, because you don't keep lots of fuel
in the reactor at one time. The reason fission is dangerous is that you have to
keep a year's supply of fuel in the reactor. And if the reaction goes too fast,
you can get a year's worth of energy in a few seconds.
Oh, and by the way -- fuck authority.
Time for a Soviet-Russia-style show trial, in which Hussein admits *he* personally destroyed the Trade Center!
The not-very-malicious worms that we've seen exploiting e.g. the NT RPC vuln are good things, IMO. They encourage admins to patch their systems, giving black hats less opportunity to do real damage.
Steve Mann has been doing this for years.
Somebody set up us the BIND
The miracle of the efficient market is a lie promulgated by evil evil men.
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My post was sarcasm. I thought that was pretty clear, but I guess you can't hear people's tone when they type . . .
Sigh... Remeber when paying $9 was sufficient to get a commercial free
experience? Voting with my wallet is difficult because I don't (yet) want to
give up on movie theaters and don't know of any movie theaters that don't put
this crap on...
Don't you know about the miracle of the efficient market?
If people don't like movies, they just buy a bunch of land in an urban area,
build a huge building, and run their own movie theater! I mean, anyone can do
that!
The real trouble with movies is excessive government regulation. If only
movie companies were free to maximize their profits, movie quality would be
much better!
The US government is in negotiations to get back involved with ITER. ITER is the big international magnetic confinement fusion experiment. The US government pulled out in the mid-nineties after Newt Gingrich's congress greatly reduced DOE's research budget.
Still waiting for an actual argument.
Please, go ahead and start discrediting. I try very hard to keep myself attached to reality. You haven't actually said anything yet, though.