I suggest teaching them HTML first. It will provide quick results that they can show their friends. A syntax error like missing a closing tag will be easy to find and fix to provide some confidence. Then you can ease them into CGI with Perl/PHP/Python/Java or whatever. This path would provide something that provides challange and results each step of the way.
After they get their dynamic web pages rolling along you can then lead them into more complex programming - or whould that be they can easily grow into more complex programming?
You could let your teacher / school know that Portland Community College (that's the Oregon version of Portland) offers Linux classes for credt. Specifically:
CEU 988Q Linux System Administration, CEUs: 4.40-Introduces the Linux operating system including installation, basic administration, configuring for desktop and internet. Course prepares students for General Exam 1 for Linux Certification. Prereq: working knowledge of computer hardware & software. Tuition: $600. Fee: $60. 17347 Capital WCWTC 1510 5:30p-9:30p Tue 1/4-3/14 Taylor and CEU 96I Linux - Install and Configure, CEUs: 0.60-First in the Dynamic Data Delivery Series. Learn basic commands, network config. and troubleshooting as you install and configure Linux OS. Prep for Apache Web Server and Web Data Delivery courses. Tuition: $100. Fee: $30. 17350 Capital WCWTC 1510 8:30a-3:30p Sat 2/19 Taylor There are also classes in Apache, mySQL and Perl if you want to use them for Open Source coursework examples. PCC is on the web if your teacher needs to see for him (her?)self.
Our local branch of the University of Phoenix is preparing to offer Linux coursework also.
White box houses - your corner clone shop - would be a place to expect this practice. The first computer I ever bought was a 386 DX/20. The clone shop owner took off the case and pointed out the heat sink he had attached to the processor, saying "See this heat sink? It's one of the things I do for my customers. The heat sink helps the CPU run cooler and last longer." A year or so later I took the heat sink off and found out I had a 386/16 installed in my 20mhz motherboard.
and they're cheap. About $120 for the two port one. And I think $210 for the 4 port. I used them for trade show demos - so they were frequently disconnected, packed, shipped, reconnected - at home and on my desk at work. Never had a problem in over a year's usage.
I use phrases to generate my passwords. A recent one was lnihags - Last Night I Had A Great Stout gererated after tasting wonderful stout at a new brewpub. reasonably random, and someone would have to know how I would express whatever piqued my interest at the time I needed a new password.
Other examples are:
tst:vda - the summer triangle: vega, deneb, altair for the bright guide stars of summer
bfsdpe - Beijing Food, Scorpion, Duck, Pig's Ears (scorpion tastes like popato chips, Pig's ears like pepper bacon)
I was put in the same position with respect to web surfing when I worked for a bank. The agreement that people signed to get web access included a disclaimer that their surfing was subject to monitoring.
If your company does not have such an agreement in place, you should work with HR and perhaps corporate legal to get one in place before scanning. The possibility of an invasion of privacy lawsuit is sufficient cause - it's expensive to defend.
Our ultimate policy was that it was a matter between employee and supervisor. So a summary report of web activity was eamiled to supervisors. The report compared an employees total web access against the average web surfer at the bank. Those people in the top 10% of activity were flagged. To the best of my knoweldge, most supervisors just deleted the message without review.
Points about porn.
This was before nanny filters, so we generated our own list of blocked sites - this might be good for you.
Our corporate security department required scanning for people hitting porn sites we hadn't blocked. There were very concerned about a sexual harassment lawsuit, on the grounds of a hostile work environment.
If you sent someone an email pointing out that their visit to www.hotporn.com was recorded they usually stopped.
They do have a website for online account review and payment.
They've never made a telemarketing call.
My interest rate is 9.99% - great for plastic.
The online payment feature also remembers the last account you made a payment from so you don't have to reenter your checking account number each month. I can make my payment in a couple of minutes and be done with it. The web site organization is pretty clean and easy to use.
Note, they are affiated with BankOne.
Yes, they do send out convience checks, my shredder loves them.
Yes, there is a better way. It's been around for at least 25 years and talked about in books like "What Color is Your Parachute?" A great current resource is Ask the Headhunter web site.
Here's the first paragraph from the welcome page:
Forget luck. Forget what "human resources experts" have taught you. It's all bureaucratic bunk. No one wins (or fills) a job by following "the steps" dictated by America's defunct Employment System. Rather, they succeed by beating the System: by knowing the best way to handle a few make-or-break situations, thereby setting themselves above their competition.
His approach is then outlined in five steps. The method takes some work. But it has worked for me -- how else do you go from a Bachelors degree in Fine Arts Photograpy to a network engineering position?
US West customers will recognize the company slogan that is the subject of my reply. In this case the advertisements are telling the truth.
My aDSL experience is at the other end of the scale.
It was ordered in late October, delivered in early November, been working fine ever since. I get 512K symmetrical bandwidth and occasionally test it with bing to verify that I'm really getting it. US West doesn't care, and has an announced policy of not caring, what you do with your bandwidth.
All in all they're delivering what everyone has promised.
Sure, you could say that and be accurate at the same time.
To infer that Linux is inhearently not reliable becasue it has not had corporate lab testing is not accurate. That is a case of sophistry hiding in bad logic.
Reading through the stories of teenages today brought back the memories of my school experiences 25 and 30 years ago, I'm 41 now.
The jock's hand around my throat, "What'd you say? I thought I heard you say 'Fuck you.'" He was looking for an excuse to pound on me. Junior high and high school had lots of episodes like that. My nickname was "Bullwinkle". You can figure it out.
The best thing about getting older is that you can travel and mix with different crowds. You can find more people like yourself and find your community. Hang on for that. Being a geek - and having geek brains and curiosity - gives you incredible flexibility in life. That flexibility enables you to choose what you do and where you live to do it. Something the bullies really don't have.
I was lucky in that going to college was like being a fish returned to water after a life in air. Yes, that good. Life has gotten better and better since then.
Nothing lasts forever. Hang on until your life takes you out of the hellmouth.
Mr. Michel does an interesting spin on the issue of Linux and responsibility. He doesn't say that Linux is or is not reliable. Instead he just describes the heavy resources that a corporation needs to use to test reliability. This is intended to lead you to believe that Linux has no testing because the community doesn't have a centralized lab with technicians sweating away hours over structured tests. He doesn't even make passing reference to the varied, real world, applied testing that comes from millions of users' experience.
What would you trust? Millions of users' real world experience vs. thousands of hours from a few (maybe few dozen) technicians with constructed tests. Isn't real world experience the final testing ground for commercial software today? Or are patches and service packs and incremental releases frequently released because commercial vendors didn't want to ship a fully tested product to begin with?
Not only was his service bad, but the prices for BA aDSL seem shitty too.
At least in US West land you can order aDSL with a "self install" option. No telephone person will mess with your computer or even ask what it is. They didn't care that I have multiple Linux machines going through my connection.
The "I don't need a language designed by a focus group." comment comes at the end of page 1. There are several more pages with details about his painful process.
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You deserve a beer. I'll send you some. What kind do you want?
(Assuming you're not like Raster and would rather have spirits....)
After they get their dynamic web pages rolling along you can then lead them into more complex programming - or whould that be they can easily grow into more complex programming?
is the BSD firewall a permanent fixture? The what happened page said that the BSD box was brought in because Pat could get it running quick.
Do you consider the PIX fundamentally flawed or just not correct for your environment?
Hello Deb,
How would you describe the state of Linux documentation today? What direction is it going?
What are some examples of well done documentation aspiring contributors to emulate?
What question do you wish you were asked that nobody has asked?
CEU 988Q Linux System Administration, CEUs: 4.40-Introduces the Linux operating system including installation, basic administration, configuring for desktop and internet. Course prepares students for General Exam 1 for Linux Certification.
Prereq: working knowledge of computer hardware & software. Tuition: $600. Fee: $60.
17347 Capital WCWTC 1510 5:30p-9:30p Tue 1/4-3/14 Taylor
and
CEU 96I Linux - Install and Configure, CEUs: 0.60-First in the Dynamic Data Delivery Series. Learn basic commands, network config. and troubleshooting as you install and configure Linux OS.
Prep for Apache Web Server and Web Data Delivery courses. Tuition: $100. Fee: $30.
17350 Capital WCWTC 1510 8:30a-3:30p Sat 2/19 Taylor
There are also classes in Apache, mySQL and Perl if you want to use them for Open Source coursework examples. PCC is on the web if your teacher needs to see for him (her?)self.
Our local branch of the University of Phoenix is preparing to offer Linux coursework also.
Happy Birthday to my nephew Mason who is 12 today.
White box houses - your corner clone shop - would be a place to expect this practice. The first computer I ever bought was a 386 DX/20. The clone shop owner took off the case and pointed out the heat sink he had attached to the processor, saying "See this heat sink? It's one of the things I do for my customers. The heat sink helps the CPU run cooler and last longer." A year or so later I took the heat sink off and found out I had a 386/16 installed in my 20mhz motherboard.
and they're cheap. About $120 for the two port one. And I think $210 for the 4 port. I used them for trade show demos - so they were frequently disconnected, packed, shipped, reconnected - at home and on my desk at work. Never had a problem in over a year's usage.
I use phrases to generate my passwords. A recent one was lnihags - Last Night I Had A Great Stout gererated after tasting wonderful stout at a new brewpub. reasonably random, and someone would have to know how I would express whatever piqued my interest at the time I needed a new password.
Other examples are:
tst:vda - the summer triangle: vega, deneb, altair for the bright guide stars of summer
bfsdpe - Beijing Food, Scorpion, Duck, Pig's Ears (scorpion tastes like popato chips, Pig's ears like pepper bacon)
fmtrc2k - Fucking Mazda Trasmission Repair Cost $2,000
I was put in the same position with respect to web surfing when I worked for a bank. The agreement that people signed to get web access included a disclaimer that their surfing was subject to monitoring.
If your company does not have such an agreement in place, you should work with HR and perhaps corporate legal to get one in place before scanning. The possibility of an invasion of privacy lawsuit is sufficient cause - it's expensive to defend.
Our ultimate policy was that it was a matter between employee and supervisor. So a summary report of web activity was eamiled to supervisors. The report compared an employees total web access against the average web surfer at the bank. Those people in the top 10% of activity were flagged. To the best of my knoweldge, most supervisors just deleted the message without review.
Points about porn.
This was before nanny filters, so we generated our own list of blocked sites - this might be good for you.
Our corporate security department required scanning for people hitting porn sites we hadn't blocked. There were very concerned about a sexual harassment lawsuit, on the grounds of a hostile work environment.
If you sent someone an email pointing out that their visit to www.hotporn.com was recorded they usually stopped.
What (is|are) your favorite(food|drink) [groups]?
- They do have a website for online account review and payment.
- They've never made a telemarketing call.
- My interest rate is 9.99% - great for plastic.
The online payment feature also remembers the last account you made a payment from so you don't have to reenter your checking account number each month. I can make my payment in a couple of minutes and be done with it. The web site organization is pretty clean and easy to use.Note, they are affiated with BankOne.
Yes, they do send out convience checks, my shredder loves them.
Every time I upgrade I set the old one aside for inclusion in the yet to happen beowulf cluster.
Yes, there is a better way. It's been around for at least 25 years and talked about in books like "What Color is Your Parachute?" A great current resource is Ask the Headhunter web site.
Here's the first paragraph from the welcome page:
Forget luck. Forget what "human resources experts" have taught you. It's all bureaucratic bunk. No one wins (or fills) a job by following "the steps" dictated by America's defunct Employment System. Rather, they succeed by beating the System: by knowing the best way to handle a few make-or-break situations, thereby setting themselves above their competition.
His approach is then outlined in five steps. The method takes some work. But it has worked for me -- how else do you go from a Bachelors degree in Fine Arts Photograpy to a network engineering position?
US West customers will recognize the company slogan that is the subject of my reply. In this case the advertisements are telling the truth.
My aDSL experience is at the other end of the scale.
It was ordered in late October, delivered in early November, been working fine ever since. I get 512K symmetrical bandwidth and occasionally test it with bing to verify that I'm really getting it.
US West doesn't care, and has an announced policy of not caring, what you do with your bandwidth.
All in all they're delivering what everyone has promised.
Sure, you could say that and be accurate at the same time.
To infer that Linux is inhearently not reliable becasue it has not had corporate lab testing is not accurate. That is a case of sophistry hiding in bad logic.
Reading through the stories of teenages today brought back the memories of my school experiences 25 and 30 years ago, I'm 41 now.
The jock's hand around my throat, "What'd you say? I thought I heard you say 'Fuck you.'" He was looking for an excuse to pound on me. Junior high and high school had lots of episodes like that. My nickname was "Bullwinkle". You can figure it out.
The best thing about getting older is that you can travel and mix with different crowds. You can find more people like yourself and find your community. Hang on for that. Being a geek - and having geek brains and curiosity - gives you incredible flexibility in life. That flexibility enables you to choose what you do and where you live to do it. Something the bullies really don't have.
I was lucky in that going to college was like being a fish returned to water after a life in air. Yes, that good. Life has gotten better and better since then.
Nothing lasts forever. Hang on until your life takes you out of the hellmouth.
Mr. Michel does an interesting spin on the issue of Linux and responsibility. He doesn't say that Linux is or is not reliable. Instead he just describes the heavy resources that a corporation needs to use to test reliability. This is intended to lead you to believe that Linux has no testing because the community doesn't have a centralized lab with technicians sweating away hours over structured tests. He doesn't even make passing reference to the varied, real world, applied testing that comes from millions of users' experience.
What would you trust? Millions of users' real world experience vs. thousands of hours from a few (maybe few dozen) technicians with constructed tests. Isn't real world experience the final testing ground for commercial software today? Or are patches and service packs and incremental releases frequently released because commercial vendors didn't want to ship a fully tested product to begin with?
mikeraz
Nice review. Why don't you post it on Amazon?
And it runs on AA batteries too!
Not only was his service bad, but the prices for BA aDSL seem shitty too.
At least in US West land you can order aDSL with a "self install" option. No telephone person will mess with your computer or even ask what it is. They didn't care that I have multiple Linux machines going through my connection.
The "I don't need a language designed by a focus group." comment comes at the end of page 1. There are several more pages with details about his painful process.