Having worked for Clearwire Tech Support in the past (less than a year ago) I can tell you this is complete garbage. They used to filter the ports that VOIP used, but even then you could call up Clearwire and ask them to unblock them for a 3rd party VOIP service, but unless something drastic has changed since I left (I doubt it), they stopped filtering VOIP ports for 3rd party VOIP over a year ago.
Having said that, I can also tell you that 3rd party VOIP did not work well in many cases with Clearwire's legacy service. Of course, it may work much better with WiMax, but a lot of that depends on how good of a signal you get, and this can vary quite a bit in a particular market.
I didn't install Windows 7 Beta (and haven't had a chance to check out the RC yet) but from what I've heard, nothing has really changed on that front with W7 versus Vista, either. Unless it's a laptop, I have no idea why most people don't have some sort of discreet graphics card now. They are dirt cheap.
Install a half decent graphics card (instead of using the Intel integrated shit) and most of your speed problems will disappear. Unless you got something with a Celeron or Athlon X2, in which case your CPU is too slow to handle Vista effectively, in which case I'd recommend sticking with XP.
Just because there is a law to handle this doesn't mean it is the end all if it is ineffectual. And this situation highlights the fact that apparently, it is. The statutes on search and seizure highlight the fact that in many cases, the rules change when high-tech means are involved. So apparently, the law is too ambiguous for the nature of wireless tech. You can talk to all of the cops you want, but they are not legal experts. And from the public defenders I know, I wouldn't put them much higher than the cops on legal expertise.
I don't see where it hurts law enforcement. It's a simple concept. You enact legislation that simply requires that a wireless provider assist law enforcement in tracking someone when a warrant is issued, period. It takes the burden off of the provider for legal action if a lawsuit occurs, and it makes the police's job a lot easier because they have a process in place and don't have to worry about the provider stonewalling them. Again, I appreciate your story but it just detracts from the discussion and honestly your argument that it somehow would burden the legal system and make the jobs of LEOs harder is unmerited and unproven.
Your story makes no sense in response to my post. Good job going way out of left field there. What does your friend setting fire to his ex's building have anything to do with police getting assistance from a wireless provider?
What is to stop a police officer from abusing this sort of access of technology without a warrant? And how is Verizon supposed to know it is a valid request? Are they supposed to just take their word for it? Yeah, that will work out well, and won't be abused at all.
You see though, that's a good thought (or story) but the problem with your argument, although you make valid points, is that it does not extend the "prison system" that you speak of. It's more of a safety thing, but again, if someone has committed a crime and police are tracking them, then it's simply another way to track them. Not using the tools necessary to track them makes them no less guilty (of course, assuming that they will be tried by a jury of their peers to determine the validity of the charges) than if they were not used. So you are basically stating that because the cops should have a law in place to compel the provider to help track the person, that this will put innocent people behind bars. My counter is that it's just another tool to track people that they have a reason to believe have committed a crime.
Very good point. Religion has often been used in history as a recruiting tool, and a very effective one. Nothing gets people more riled up than each others deities. My point was that the actual reason for most of the wars was not religion, but material factors such as land and resources. But you are correct, religion has been used in many wars as not only an "excuse" but also as a tool to help fight the war.
Again, there is no way for Verizon to verify the validity of his claim without a warrant. Doesn't matter what the police thought, generally in these instances a warrant is the prudent course, and would have solved the problem much quicker than bitching over the phone with a tech support person.
Add to that that someone calling 911 from a phone, and the phone company/police tracking the location of a phone remotely are two independent things. The reason a warrant should be issued is to protect the privacy of people who should not have their phone tracked by law enforcement. I know I was modded flamebait (so I guess you have two slashdot accounts), but really, what I and the parent said make a lot more sense legally and ethically than you. Let's use an example: I piss off a neighbor, who happens to be a cop. He goes psycho, and wants to find out where I am so he can come whoop my ass. So he calls my phone provider, says he's a LEO and I'm missing and he needs to track me. If the phone company followed your line of thinking, they'd just give him the info because it must be an emergency, and then you can figure out where the story goes from there. No thanks, I'm for them having to get a warrant.
Good luck getting Verizon to turn the phone back on if the sim card isn't in there, though. What do you think they use to provision the phone for service?
Yes, but when you are addicted, the idea of moderation is getting three meals a day in between playing. It's all about knowing when too much is too much, and when you are a game addict, that concept is foreign.
If there wasn't religion, another excuse would be made. People feel better about themselves if they are fighting for what seems to be a noble cause. If it wasn't religion, it'd be racial harmony or something else. (and it often has been something else when it wasn't religion).
Haha, I wish. I think I would've played even with a mangled hand. Seriously, I didn't even consider dating at the time, that's how hooked I was. I have since sworn off MMOs or any game that requires a huge time investment over a short period of time. I love long games but games that can be saved, and approached later. Having a son helps too, as kids are a much bigger time sink than MMOs could ever hope to be. I don't mean that in a bad way, but people here who have kids know what I mean.
But he wasn't a danger to anyone but himself, according to the testimony. It still didn't meet the burden of proof to get Verizon to act without a warrant. Would've been a lot simpler to call up a judge and get the warrant, and then Verizon would've had no choice, no matter what the bill was.
As someone else who had a former MMO addiction (SW Galaxies, FFXI, WoW, to name a few), I concur. I had my parents, friends, etc, all telling me I had to unplug, but I would get angry when they told me I played too much. It took me gaining 40 lbs. sitting on my ass playing games that made me wake up and realize what I was doing to myself. Well, that, and nearly losing my job to a fucking game. That was a big wake up call too.
The key word here is the public. Last I checked, the Law Enforcement community protected and served the public, but in their official capacities, they are not the public, but rather an extension of the government. Good try though, that legal slippery slope would've been picked apart really quick by a good attorney.
When it comes to Law Enforcement, common sense is not enough. Your rights, my rights, and the rights of every US citizen demand that actions like this be governed by laws. You say laws as if they are a bad thing, when in this case, they serve a good purpose. To protect our rights balanced against the protection of the citizens. So yes, we do need more laws in this instance as apparently there is not a law that applies.
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Having worked for Clearwire Tech Support in the past (less than a year ago) I can tell you this is complete garbage. They used to filter the ports that VOIP used, but even then you could call up Clearwire and ask them to unblock them for a 3rd party VOIP service, but unless something drastic has changed since I left (I doubt it), they stopped filtering VOIP ports for 3rd party VOIP over a year ago.
Having said that, I can also tell you that 3rd party VOIP did not work well in many cases with Clearwire's legacy service. Of course, it may work much better with WiMax, but a lot of that depends on how good of a signal you get, and this can vary quite a bit in a particular market.
I didn't install Windows 7 Beta (and haven't had a chance to check out the RC yet) but from what I've heard, nothing has really changed on that front with W7 versus Vista, either. Unless it's a laptop, I have no idea why most people don't have some sort of discreet graphics card now. They are dirt cheap.
Install a half decent graphics card (instead of using the Intel integrated shit) and most of your speed problems will disappear. Unless you got something with a Celeron or Athlon X2, in which case your CPU is too slow to handle Vista effectively, in which case I'd recommend sticking with XP.
Just because there is a law to handle this doesn't mean it is the end all if it is ineffectual. And this situation highlights the fact that apparently, it is. The statutes on search and seizure highlight the fact that in many cases, the rules change when high-tech means are involved. So apparently, the law is too ambiguous for the nature of wireless tech. You can talk to all of the cops you want, but they are not legal experts. And from the public defenders I know, I wouldn't put them much higher than the cops on legal expertise.
I don't see where it hurts law enforcement. It's a simple concept. You enact legislation that simply requires that a wireless provider assist law enforcement in tracking someone when a warrant is issued, period. It takes the burden off of the provider for legal action if a lawsuit occurs, and it makes the police's job a lot easier because they have a process in place and don't have to worry about the provider stonewalling them. Again, I appreciate your story but it just detracts from the discussion and honestly your argument that it somehow would burden the legal system and make the jobs of LEOs harder is unmerited and unproven.
Your story makes no sense in response to my post. Good job going way out of left field there. What does your friend setting fire to his ex's building have anything to do with police getting assistance from a wireless provider?
What is to stop a police officer from abusing this sort of access of technology without a warrant? And how is Verizon supposed to know it is a valid request? Are they supposed to just take their word for it? Yeah, that will work out well, and won't be abused at all.
You see though, that's a good thought (or story) but the problem with your argument, although you make valid points, is that it does not extend the "prison system" that you speak of. It's more of a safety thing, but again, if someone has committed a crime and police are tracking them, then it's simply another way to track them. Not using the tools necessary to track them makes them no less guilty (of course, assuming that they will be tried by a jury of their peers to determine the validity of the charges) than if they were not used. So you are basically stating that because the cops should have a law in place to compel the provider to help track the person, that this will put innocent people behind bars. My counter is that it's just another tool to track people that they have a reason to believe have committed a crime.
Very good point. Religion has often been used in history as a recruiting tool, and a very effective one. Nothing gets people more riled up than each others deities. My point was that the actual reason for most of the wars was not religion, but material factors such as land and resources. But you are correct, religion has been used in many wars as not only an "excuse" but also as a tool to help fight the war.
Again, there is no way for Verizon to verify the validity of his claim without a warrant. Doesn't matter what the police thought, generally in these instances a warrant is the prudent course, and would have solved the problem much quicker than bitching over the phone with a tech support person.
Hate to break it to you, but history disagrees with you.
Add to that that someone calling 911 from a phone, and the phone company/police tracking the location of a phone remotely are two independent things. The reason a warrant should be issued is to protect the privacy of people who should not have their phone tracked by law enforcement. I know I was modded flamebait (so I guess you have two slashdot accounts), but really, what I and the parent said make a lot more sense legally and ethically than you. Let's use an example: I piss off a neighbor, who happens to be a cop. He goes psycho, and wants to find out where I am so he can come whoop my ass. So he calls my phone provider, says he's a LEO and I'm missing and he needs to track me. If the phone company followed your line of thinking, they'd just give him the info because it must be an emergency, and then you can figure out where the story goes from there. No thanks, I'm for them having to get a warrant.
Good luck getting Verizon to turn the phone back on if the sim card isn't in there, though. What do you think they use to provision the phone for service?
Yes, but when you are addicted, the idea of moderation is getting three meals a day in between playing. It's all about knowing when too much is too much, and when you are a game addict, that concept is foreign.
If there wasn't religion, another excuse would be made. People feel better about themselves if they are fighting for what seems to be a noble cause. If it wasn't religion, it'd be racial harmony or something else. (and it often has been something else when it wasn't religion).
Haha, I wish. I think I would've played even with a mangled hand. Seriously, I didn't even consider dating at the time, that's how hooked I was. I have since sworn off MMOs or any game that requires a huge time investment over a short period of time. I love long games but games that can be saved, and approached later. Having a son helps too, as kids are a much bigger time sink than MMOs could ever hope to be. I don't mean that in a bad way, but people here who have kids know what I mean.
Glad I never worked where you did, where common sense apparently was against company policy :P
But he wasn't a danger to anyone but himself, according to the testimony. It still didn't meet the burden of proof to get Verizon to act without a warrant. Would've been a lot simpler to call up a judge and get the warrant, and then Verizon would've had no choice, no matter what the bill was.
Actually most "religious" wars are just conflicts over resources or land, and religion is used as an excuse.
As someone else who had a former MMO addiction (SW Galaxies, FFXI, WoW, to name a few), I concur. I had my parents, friends, etc, all telling me I had to unplug, but I would get angry when they told me I played too much. It took me gaining 40 lbs. sitting on my ass playing games that made me wake up and realize what I was doing to myself. Well, that, and nearly losing my job to a fucking game. That was a big wake up call too.
The key word here is the public. Last I checked, the Law Enforcement community protected and served the public, but in their official capacities, they are not the public, but rather an extension of the government. Good try though, that legal slippery slope would've been picked apart really quick by a good attorney.
When it comes to Law Enforcement, common sense is not enough. Your rights, my rights, and the rights of every US citizen demand that actions like this be governed by laws. You say laws as if they are a bad thing, when in this case, they serve a good purpose. To protect our rights balanced against the protection of the citizens. So yes, we do need more laws in this instance as apparently there is not a law that applies.
Only $50? I'd have thought they'd want a $50 late-fee, $25 reactivation fee, $100 ETF Discounted Fee, and all of your female children.
I smell a microtransaction opportunity here! We'll call it: Little Big Wireless.
Yeah because tier 2 support techs hold daily pressers. Worked in a call center before?