I think I missed a step. What's the elephant I told you to avoid? The privacy issue? It's real; discuss at length. I just said not to bitch about the content. The content is exactly what you make of it. Bitching about FB's content is like bitching about your car because it keeps taking you to bad restaurants.
You did not say you used FB. You did imply some FB hate by comparing it to a criminal pedophile. Perhaps AC should have said, "You don't like it - ignore it."
Invading privacy is what FB bases their business on and criticizing them for it is just fine. But criticizing them for content is dumb. The content is what you make it. If your friends are posting fluff, change or mute friends. If your friends can't manage a discussion where there's a difference of opinion without using words like "libtard", "snowflake", or "Trumpette", change friends. Seeing fake news? Follow real news sources. I see headlines from CNN, CNN International, and BBC News, none of which make a habit of posting misinformation. My friends are people who post content more interesting than their dinners and who are capable of intelligent discussion.
Are the thoughts and actions of the hundreds of million people who use it invalid? Do they matter to nothing?
I've never tweeted and only follow one person (2 accounts). Are there other valuable "thoughts and actions" to explore? In my limited exploration I've seen a lot of fluff. I wouldn't describe DJT's tweets as fluff. I'm just on because it's a unique look into the mind of the lunatic at our country's helm.
thegarbz said that, in Japan, a wake is held before the funeral. This is not the alternative to the wake being held after the funeral; it's the alternative to no wake being held at all. I'm assuming that it's common to attend the wake in Japan. I've been to a few funerals here in the US and none had an associated wake.
But your routine care, that should be planned and paid for by the individual. That would lower insurance costs to what insurance should be.."insurance against catastrophic loss".
I think we've confirmed that you and I have different philosophies on insurance. If I understand you correctly, people who have more expensive medical needs by being black, female, whatever, will pay for life for their bad decision. People with chronic conditions like genetic disorders will be fucked. You'll be fine.
You save money monthly for food, shelter, etc...why should you not also save for routine medical/health needs?
"Routine" can vary radically from one person to another based solely on where you stand at birth. Just having a vagina is pretty expensive. I don't mind subsidizing people who opt for a vagina. "Saving up" for chronic conditions can be insurmountable even though expensive treatments are "routine" for that patient.
Making women 100% responsible for the cost of all pregnancies because men "don't need that coverage" is something I strongly disagree with. I thought that opinion would be pretty much universal.
I will not purchase anything due to those ads from people who advertise that way.
You'll try. We'll all try. The advertisers are hoping that their strategy will trump our reluctance. They just want us to recognize their brand and not remember why.
...I found it's easier to remain friends with friends when i don't read their FB posts.
I find that I disagree with my friends in areas that might not have come up in normal conversation, but typically my friends are reasonable people and we can discuss our differences of opinion. My father and I disagree strongly on several topics, but we're still friends. There are exceptions, e.g. the DJT fanatics and the anti-vaccine cultists (in my circles of friends, that's the same two people). It is possible to have intelligent conversations on FB with differing, valid points of view. Your experience on FB depends entirely on the friends you pick and the way you relate to them. FB is what you make of it; being able to pick and choose who participates in a conversation steers it differently than when anyone can post. I don't have the problem with trolls in my FB conversations that exists here.
I didn't see that coming. I was surprised at suggesting different rates for women but thought you'd stop short of suggesting special rates for Jews, et al.
So if somebody's born with a genetic disorder, they pay rates comparable to their expected cost of treatment? I think you and I have different ideas about the purpose of insurance. But then, I'm one of those kooks that thinks even unemployed women should get prenatal care.
Americans don't believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet. Human beings, who have imaginations, can see a recipe for disaster in the making; Americans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don't give a hoot about human beings, either can't or won't.
I occasionally take a break from destroying the human race and profiting from disaster to drink the blood of babies, but other than that you've got us.
Are you just running off some absurd stereotype? Have you actually met an American? It's not all DJT & Jerry Springer.
If you're a patriotic American born in El Paso, you're only a couple of kilometres from being a patriotic Mexican.
Not all patriotic Americans were born in America. Some proud Americans are also proud Mexicans.
Since when were any of you ever proud of being American?
I'm a proud American. There are a lot of things wrong with my country; there are plenty of stains on our history; and I'm concerned about our current vector. But we also claim a lot of accomplishments and advances and some of what we do helps the world. We have a lot of promise. America is Americans and some of my favorite people are Americans. America has Penn and Teller - What have you got?
What's the actual statistic on black on white crime and vice versa?
About 14.8% whites killed by blacks and 7.6% blacks killed by whites. Not remotely close to DJT's numbers. Whites are much more often killed by whites and ditto for blacks.
The reason Trump's twitter account enrages them so much is that it allows him to bypass their gatekeeper function and speak directly with the people.
It's not "enraging" anyone. At least not typically; some exceptions. It's just a huge source of national embarrassment and occasionally a threat to global stability. Taunting "Little Rocket Man" is reckless. Name-calling perceived threats is childish. Sharing useful statistics like "81% of whites killed by blacks" is harmful, racist, and embarrassing. The "gatekeepers" just correct all the misinformation that he clings to.
As far as Oliver or Colbert, are they comedians with a journalist twist or journalists with a comedic twist... (IMO, I consider Oliver the later and Colbert the former)
Agreed. John Oliver's stuff is researched and (I've found) accurate. Colbert's stuff is whatever's funniest even if it's unsubstantiated.
However, on Slashdot my time is invested, not wasted...
If your conversations on FB are wasted time, I'd suggest conversing with different people or on different topics. I often have interesting conversations on FB. My friends and I don't always align politically, but our conversations are centered mostly on the topic at hand rather than ad hominem attacks on "libtards" and "Trumpettes".
There are still great minds here...
There are equally great minds on FB. If you're not seeing them, that's a problem with your circle of friends, not the platform. Likewise, FB and slashdot both have a healthy helping of idiots. I can think of a couple of/. users off the top of my head who would have to up their game to be considered wasted space. At least on FB you can pick and choose who you hear from.
Slashdot Mirror
I think I missed a step. What's the elephant I told you to avoid? The privacy issue? It's real; discuss at length. I just said not to bitch about the content. The content is exactly what you make of it. Bitching about FB's content is like bitching about your car because it keeps taking you to bad restaurants.
Did I say I used it?
You did not say you used FB. You did imply some FB hate by comparing it to a criminal pedophile. Perhaps AC should have said, "You don't like it - ignore it."
Invading privacy is what FB bases their business on and criticizing them for it is just fine. But criticizing them for content is dumb. The content is what you make it. If your friends are posting fluff, change or mute friends. If your friends can't manage a discussion where there's a difference of opinion without using words like "libtard", "snowflake", or "Trumpette", change friends. Seeing fake news? Follow real news sources. I see headlines from CNN, CNN International, and BBC News, none of which make a habit of posting misinformation. My friends are people who post content more interesting than their dinners and who are capable of intelligent discussion.
Are the thoughts and actions of the hundreds of million people who use it invalid? Do they matter to nothing?
I've never tweeted and only follow one person (2 accounts). Are there other valuable "thoughts and actions" to explore? In my limited exploration I've seen a lot of fluff. I wouldn't describe DJT's tweets as fluff. I'm just on because it's a unique look into the mind of the lunatic at our country's helm.
thegarbz said that, in Japan, a wake is held before the funeral. This is not the alternative to the wake being held after the funeral; it's the alternative to no wake being held at all. I'm assuming that it's common to attend the wake in Japan. I've been to a few funerals here in the US and none had an associated wake.
Unless you're out there on the bell curve, it's CHEAPER to do without it.
Yes. That's by design.
nice to have a respectful discussion of differing opinions.....
Let's hope that doesn't get us kicked off slashdot. I don't think differing opinions are allowed unless one person calls the other a snowflake.
Ok..so, you're saying I should pay for everyone else's problems?
Why is that?
Because civilized societies shouldn't leave the weak to die. That's just my opinion.
And I realize we disagree, I'm guessing you are much younger than me.
40.
No. Underage drinking has consequences. Wearing contacts you don't need? Meh.
But your routine care, that should be planned and paid for by the individual. That would lower insurance costs to what insurance should be.."insurance against catastrophic loss".
I think we've confirmed that you and I have different philosophies on insurance. If I understand you correctly, people who have more expensive medical needs by being black, female, whatever, will pay for life for their bad decision. People with chronic conditions like genetic disorders will be fucked. You'll be fine.
You save money monthly for food, shelter, etc...why should you not also save for routine medical/health needs?
"Routine" can vary radically from one person to another based solely on where you stand at birth. Just having a vagina is pretty expensive. I don't mind subsidizing people who opt for a vagina. "Saving up" for chronic conditions can be insurmountable even though expensive treatments are "routine" for that patient.
Making women 100% responsible for the cost of all pregnancies because men "don't need that coverage" is something I strongly disagree with. I thought that opinion would be pretty much universal.
I will not purchase anything due to those ads from people who advertise that way .
You'll try. We'll all try. The advertisers are hoping that their strategy will trump our reluctance. They just want us to recognize their brand and not remember why.
...I found it's easier to remain friends with friends when i don't read their FB posts.
I find that I disagree with my friends in areas that might not have come up in normal conversation, but typically my friends are reasonable people and we can discuss our differences of opinion. My father and I disagree strongly on several topics, but we're still friends. There are exceptions, e.g. the DJT fanatics and the anti-vaccine cultists (in my circles of friends, that's the same two people). It is possible to have intelligent conversations on FB with differing, valid points of view. Your experience on FB depends entirely on the friends you pick and the way you relate to them. FB is what you make of it; being able to pick and choose who participates in a conversation steers it differently than when anyone can post. I don't have the problem with trolls in my FB conversations that exists here.
I didn't see that coming. I was surprised at suggesting different rates for women but thought you'd stop short of suggesting special rates for Jews, et al.
So if somebody's born with a genetic disorder, they pay rates comparable to their expected cost of treatment? I think you and I have different ideas about the purpose of insurance. But then, I'm one of those kooks that thinks even unemployed women should get prenatal care.
Maybe different rates for the preexisting condition, black?
I have NO plans to get pregnant, yet I have policy coverage for prenatal, etc. Why the fuck should I pay that?
Are you suggesting that having a vagina should be considered a preexisting condition?
<a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/av/42341736/what-is-net-neutrality-and-how-could-it-affect-you">Link!</a>
Americans don't believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet. Human beings, who have imaginations, can see a recipe for disaster in the making; Americans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don't give a hoot about human beings, either can't or won't.
I occasionally take a break from destroying the human race and profiting from disaster to drink the blood of babies, but other than that you've got us.
Are you just running off some absurd stereotype? Have you actually met an American? It's not all DJT & Jerry Springer.
If you're a patriotic American born in El Paso, you're only a couple of kilometres from being a patriotic Mexican.
Not all patriotic Americans were born in America. Some proud Americans are also proud Mexicans.
Since when were any of you ever proud of being American?
I'm a proud American. There are a lot of things wrong with my country; there are plenty of stains on our history; and I'm concerned about our current vector. But we also claim a lot of accomplishments and advances and some of what we do helps the world. We have a lot of promise. America is Americans and some of my favorite people are Americans. America has Penn and Teller - What have you got?
What's the actual statistic on black on white crime and vice versa?
About 14.8% whites killed by blacks and 7.6% blacks killed by whites. Not remotely close to DJT's numbers. Whites are much more often killed by whites and ditto for blacks.
A pittance of power spent very well.
... and also think of ...
the thousands of gallons of sperm wasted
Waste more! Way too much of that stuff is becoming people. There's no people shortage.
Mass data is not the same as one data point.
But public data is public regardless of how much is there.
The reason Trump's twitter account enrages them so much is that it allows him to bypass their gatekeeper function and speak directly with the people.
It's not "enraging" anyone. At least not typically; some exceptions. It's just a huge source of national embarrassment and occasionally a threat to global stability. Taunting "Little Rocket Man" is reckless. Name-calling perceived threats is childish. Sharing useful statistics like "81% of whites killed by blacks" is harmful, racist, and embarrassing. The "gatekeepers" just correct all the misinformation that he clings to.
Hashtag's the name of the panda on the Tonight Show. Also a keyword for when you tweet a snapgram.
As far as Oliver or Colbert, are they comedians with a journalist twist or journalists with a comedic twist... (IMO, I consider Oliver the later and Colbert the former)
Agreed. John Oliver's stuff is researched and (I've found) accurate. Colbert's stuff is whatever's funniest even if it's unsubstantiated.
Facebook creates an addictive product in order to generate revenue, in case you were wondering where the final parallel was.
You could say the same thing about any video game company. In fact, just about every company has "addictive" as a goal.
However, on Slashdot my time is invested, not wasted...
If your conversations on FB are wasted time, I'd suggest conversing with different people or on different topics. I often have interesting conversations on FB. My friends and I don't always align politically, but our conversations are centered mostly on the topic at hand rather than ad hominem attacks on "libtards" and "Trumpettes".
There are still great minds here...
There are equally great minds on FB. If you're not seeing them, that's a problem with your circle of friends, not the platform. Likewise, FB and slashdot both have a healthy helping of idiots. I can think of a couple of /. users off the top of my head who would have to up their game to be considered wasted space. At least on FB you can pick and choose who you hear from.