OF course it's only RTSP. You can use RTSP to stream any type of media you want. There is nothing that says you *mudt* use sorensen to encode all the video is there? Since RTSP is going to be open, use that code to make a player for linux that can grab RTSP streams. Encourage people who stream to use codecs that are compatible. FWIW, I doubt too many people who use QTSS will use sorensen, since it requires a chunk of horsepower on both ends. They'll probably do regular cinepak or MPEG2, which Quicktime also supports. It all depends on what kind of pipe and hardware they have.
Sorry for double posting this, but I think it needs to be said.
Of course just the streaming code. Apple is trying to get people who stream media to use quicktime. They also want to be able to make some money. They have a free player, and you can use it. They have a pro player that people pay $29.95 for that gives tons of features. That is less than most shareware.
By opening up the server, it will allow all of you people to make money streaming QuickTime media to other people. All they need is a player that can read the RTSP(Real Time Streaming Protocol) data. The server is open-source, so it won't be that hard to make a player. Once you use RSTP, you can use any codec you want to stream. Sorensen is not the best protocol for streaming since it requires tons of processor power. Therefore, I expect many people to use RTSP to stream cinepak or even mpeg2.
QTSS is not about revolutionary codecs, it's about a revolutionary protocol. For as much as you folks like to rip on news.com, you take a lot of their stuff at face value. If you really want to know more about QTSS, sign up for some of the Apple Mailing lists on the subject.
Of course just the streaming code. Apple is trying to get people who stream media to use quicktime. They also want to be able to make some money. They have a free player, and you can use it. They have a pro player that people pay $29.95 for that gives tons of features. That is less than most shareware.
By opening up the server, it will allow all of you people to make money streaming QuickTime media to other people. All they need is a player that can read the RTSP(Real Time Streaming Protocol) data. The server is open-source, so it won't be that hard to make a player. Once you use RSTP, you can use any codec you want to stream. Sorensen is not the best protocol for streaming since it requires tons of processor power. Therefore, I expect many people to use RTSP to stream cinepak or even mpeg2.
QTSS is not about revolutionary codecs, it's about a revolutionary protocol. For as much as you folks like to rip on news.com, you take a lot of their stuff at face value. If you really want to know more about QTSS, sign up for some of the Apple Mailing lists on the subject.
how many slashdot users like to play angel and bash the evangelist. The evangelist probably could have done a good job toning down some of the slashdot threads if they were told to hang out on these boards at all. However, I have done the "Linux users superiority complex" schpiel and will save you that nonsense.
Evangelist wasn't *that* bad. It is really interesting to note the psychological influences throughout the computer world. The evangelists were the "black panthers". The hard-core guys willing to do anything for "the good fight". Classical majority/majority conflicts exist.
It's all pretty simple. People should just chill out more and not let things get so personal. They are, after all, computers.
I agree with the part about the picture of the PSX2. It is definitely an artist rendition. There are working prototypes for teh PSX2 that run some code. Obviously, they are a long way off. Remember, Japan is getting it several months ahead of the US, so the specs are going to be frozen sooner than you think.
Re: The DVD capability. This is a tough call. I think Sony could solve the problem easily though. It wouldn't be too tough for them to put in a DVD copy protection into the system and allow studios to make DVD movies "Playstation 2 Ready" by adding a few special sectors on the DVD. Sony has learned from the mistakes in the MODchip and such things, so I am sure it would be a better solution.
Anyway, Sony would charge studios that wanted their DVDs playable on the PSX2. That way, Sony still makes money by keeping their boxes less expensive. I'm guessing studios would love their DVDs to be PSX2 playable because of the sheer numbers that are likely to buy. PSX is more appealing to Joe Six Pack than a DVD only player and would drive rentals as well as purchases.
I don't think you can appreciate what little allegiance Apple and Motorola have for each other. Motorola basically replaced all of the Macs in the company. They sell to Apple as long as Apple is still making them money Apple is not being charitable with Motorola by buying their chips.
PowerPC is a great platform and I wish people would pick up on it. For embedded systems, it is awesome. All of IBM's really big horsepower runs on PPCs in steroids(Power 3) that do SMP like it was nothing. Consumer wise, PowerPC is only being utilized by Apple. If you want to talk about allegiance, look no farther than the x86 instruction set. Intel fostered the attitude and all the clone chip makers are trying to follow suit.
I think allegiance to x86 is holding the industry back the most. Imagine what intel would have now if Microsoft didn't just hand them the OS market by focusing 99% of their efforts on x86. They certainly wouldn't have tried their socket antics.
I won't say "I told you so" on this one. Watch for more articles about the infighting in UNIX/Linux and the arrogance/mmaturity of the community. All of it will help us move right off of the radar of wide adoption. A lot of people would be happy if Linux went away from the "masses are asses" attitude that is coming nowadays.
I am wondering if you can repeat this statement a couple of more times. I don't think a lot of people have caught on to the point you are trying to get across.
Lots of people download source and never take a look at it. Lots of people download software and never look at it. I don't understand why you must be so cynical about Apple saying they have 16,000 developers. In a normal group, I think your comments would be seen as constructive and helpful. I feel that what you say is just inciting the ever so mature readers of slashdot sometimes.
>I have been accused by many people of 'owning stock in Apple'
I have to say that the "you must own stock in ______ company" argument to be worthless. Apple's stock ahs performed well over the last 18 months, a lot of people could have made money owning that stock. I hate Microsoft and Dell, but I'll keep on buyiong their stock as long as it performs well. People/companies don't play the stock market for kicks or because they like a company. They do it for money.
I've said it again and again - give Apple time. How long do you think it took them to decide to APSL anything? Changes will come slowly.
A little bit of an informal survey there Bruce? Exactly how many did this? Or could this just be speculation? Maybe a lot of them were like me. They downloaded it and saved it not because of some unfounded fear that it would dissappear, but because a lot of people are busy and will get a chanve to look at it later.
I think the only way apple won't continue with Darwin is if people continue to badget them about it and complain.
I may take some of my scathing comments about ACs and the general slashdot user's comments if more people like this post. This guy/gal know how to argue.
Hire me as your CEO because I know what is best for your business
OSS as we know it does not work for the average Fortune 500 company. I think we should face that reality. Eventually this will change. It takes a lot of courage to free up any source, esp. when you have companies like MS that are making all their money by being closed. The paradigm must shift before wholesale changes will happen to the industry. People that constantly complain are not helping anybody out.
The infamous termination clause. For the last time, people, read the stupid document again: Apple cannot terminate this license. It can terminate the license on sections of the code which violate patents, yes.
Wow, praises to this guy for reading the liscense thoroughly. Apple has protected people from using code from the GUI and various other things. In time, apple may even allow other parts of the code out. In time that is, so we should all be patient.
I know a lot of you are probably sick and tired of hearing this from me but I think people are being completely unreasonable. I can spew all of this stuff like "Rome wasn't built in a day" and such saying that this is only the first step. In fact, plenty of people have spewed this and it falls upon deaf ears.
Furthermore, I don't know how apple has "jumped the open source bandwagon" thing. Apple was funding Linux with MkLinux a long time before the other companies jumped the bandwagon.
Lastly, the open source and free software movement are going to be hurt by this. Imagine if Dell wanted to help linux/bsd/mach/[insert cool tech here] out by making a distro. They make it run for their boxes, but release the source so people could work on it. It will never happen because companies don't just invest in products if it doesn't make them money. I bet folks out there wish Compaq hired some people to work on Linux for Alpha instead of just funding another company. It won't happen. Compaq is going to want to see benefits other than the chance more people will buy their boxes.
These companies are used to selling software by giving free support. They aren't ready to give away free software and start charging for the support. Have patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. The 2.2 kernel took time. Commercial companies in harmony with oss and fsi will certainly not happen overnight.
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regards,
remy
http://www.mklinux.org
Of course just the streaming code. Apple is trying to get people who stream media to use quicktime. They also want to be able to make some money. They have a free player, and you can use it. They have a pro player that people pay $29.95 for that gives tons of features. That is less than most shareware.
By opening up the server, it will allow all of you people to make money streaming QuickTime media to other people. All they need is a player that can read the RTSP(Real Time Streaming Protocol) data. The server is open-source, so it won't be that hard to make a player. Once you use RSTP, you can use any codec you want to stream. Sorensen is not the best protocol for streaming since it requires tons of processor power. Therefore, I expect many people to use RTSP to stream cinepak or even mpeg2.
QTSS is not about revolutionary codecs, it's about a revolutionary protocol. For as much as you folks like to rip on news.com, you take a lot of their stuff at face value. If you really want to know more about QTSS, sign up for some of the Apple Mailing lists on the subject.
regards,
remy
http://www.mklinux.org
By opening up the server, it will allow all of you people to make money streaming QuickTime media to other people. All they need is a player that can read the RTSP(Real Time Streaming Protocol) data. The server is open-source, so it won't be that hard to make a player. Once you use RSTP, you can use any codec you want to stream. Sorensen is not the best protocol for streaming since it requires tons of processor power. Therefore, I expect many people to use RTSP to stream cinepak or even mpeg2.
QTSS is not about revolutionary codecs, it's about a revolutionary protocol. For as much as you folks like to rip on news.com, you take a lot of their stuff at face value. If you really want to know more about QTSS, sign up for some of the Apple Mailing lists on the subject.
regards,
remy
http://www.mklinux.org
Evangelist wasn't *that* bad. It is really interesting to note the psychological influences throughout the computer world. The evangelists were the "black panthers". The hard-core guys willing to do anything for "the good fight". Classical majority/majority conflicts exist.
It's all pretty simple. People should just chill out more and not let things get so personal. They are, after all, computers.
regards,
remy
http://www.mklinux.org
Re: The DVD capability. This is a tough call. I think Sony could solve the problem easily though. It wouldn't be too tough for them to put in a DVD copy protection into the system and allow studios to make DVD movies "Playstation 2 Ready" by adding a few special sectors on the DVD. Sony has learned from the mistakes in the MODchip and such things, so I am sure it would be a better solution.
Anyway, Sony would charge studios that wanted their DVDs playable on the PSX2. That way, Sony still makes money by keeping their boxes less expensive. I'm guessing studios would love their DVDs to be PSX2 playable because of the sheer numbers that are likely to buy. PSX is more appealing to Joe Six Pack than a DVD only player and would drive rentals as well as purchases.
Remy
http://www.mklinux.org
PowerPC is a great platform and I wish people would pick up on it. For embedded systems, it is awesome. All of IBM's really big horsepower runs on PPCs in steroids(Power 3) that do SMP like it was nothing. Consumer wise, PowerPC is only being utilized by Apple. If you want to talk about allegiance, look no farther than the x86 instruction set. Intel fostered the attitude and all the clone chip makers are trying to follow suit.
I think allegiance to x86 is holding the industry back the most. Imagine what intel would have now if Microsoft didn't just hand them the OS market by focusing 99% of their efforts on x86. They certainly wouldn't have tried their socket antics.
Whatever, time will tell.
remy
http://www.mklinux.org
http://www.mklinux.org
Remy
http://www.mklinux.org
Lots of people download source and never take a look at it. Lots of people download software and never look at it. I don't understand why you must be so cynical about Apple saying they have 16,000 developers. In a normal group, I think your comments would be seen as constructive and helpful. I feel that what you say is just inciting the ever so mature readers of slashdot sometimes.
Remy
http://www.mklinux.org
I have to say that the "you must own stock in ______ company" argument to be worthless. Apple's stock ahs performed well over the last 18 months, a lot of people could have made money owning that stock. I hate Microsoft and Dell, but I'll keep on buyiong their stock as long as it performs well. People/companies don't play the stock market for kicks or because they like a company. They do it for money.
I've said it again and again - give Apple time. How long do you think it took them to decide to APSL anything? Changes will come slowly.
Remy
http://www.mklinux.org
I think the only way apple won't continue with Darwin is if people continue to badget them about it and complain.
remy
http://www.mklinux.org
http://www.mklinux.org
OSS as we know it does not work for the average Fortune 500 company. I think we should face that reality. Eventually this will change. It takes a lot of courage to free up any source, esp. when you have companies like MS that are making all their money by being closed. The paradigm must shift before wholesale changes will happen to the industry. People that constantly complain are not helping anybody out.
remy
http://www.mklinux.org
http://www.mklinux.org
http://www.mklinux.org
Furthermore, I don't know how apple has "jumped the open source bandwagon" thing. Apple was funding Linux with MkLinux a long time before the other companies jumped the bandwagon.
Lastly, the open source and free software movement are going to be hurt by this. Imagine if Dell wanted to help linux/bsd/mach/[insert cool tech here] out by making a distro. They make it run for their boxes, but release the source so people could work on it. It will never happen because companies don't just invest in products if it doesn't make them money. I bet folks out there wish Compaq hired some people to work on Linux for Alpha instead of just funding another company. It won't happen. Compaq is going to want to see benefits other than the chance more people will buy their boxes.
These companies are used to selling software by giving free support. They aren't ready to give away free software and start charging for the support. Have patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. The 2.2 kernel took time. Commercial companies in harmony with oss and fsi will certainly not happen overnight.
Thank goodness for what you have.
Remy
http://www.mklinux.org