Erm, can linux stream video and sound while playing an mp3 and browsing the web? I don't think so, and this is a use that is well within the realm of what a user might do.
And X is not a well-designed or integrated system. Compared to every other major OS, Linux GUIs do very poorly. Different widget sets all over the place, no design guidelines, etc contribute to the problem, IMO.
BeOS is neither FreeBSD based nor Unix-like. The only thing that makes be even remotely similar to Unix is having bash and posix compliance. The OS was written from scratch, and not "based" on anything.
Of course truth is more important - but we don't have the truth. In the interim, we're going to both have to go in different directions until someone can prove their beliefs to be the truth conclusively.
Imagine the joy of a widow raising a child looking like her beloved deceased husband" she said.
Jesus Christ! Can I please not imagine that? That's about the freakiest thing you could possibly do with a clone(almost). Think of all the psychological issues both the mother and child would have, not to mention...ew! ewwww! What a messed up concept.
I've found that using a computer on pot can be very frustrating. Often, time seems to move so slowly that I'll start Netscape or something, go off to do something else, and after what seems like 5 or 10 minutes, netscape actually appears, and I wonder where it came from:)
Anymore, though, I hardly do any drugs, and definitely not anything like hallucinogens. I got that out of my system in high school, and don't feel the need to get back into it. Drugs can do some very neat things, but the possibility of permanent changes to the function of the brain(e.g., do you still have tracers?) aren't worth the temporary fun/insight for me.
Another thing that bugs me about this article is the constant link between raves and mdma. Before realizing that most ravers were generally just a bunch of fruity dumb kids with big pants, I went to a number of raves way back when, never on drugs, and found them to be thoroughly enjoyable, having much of the same experience as those who were on drugs. It's as if somehow drugs are a prerequisite to enjoying electronic music or feeling a sense of community or connectedness. I think if you need external substances to feel these things, you have a problem.
Hon - the probability of a 3-part god controlling the universe is at least as improbable to my mind as life coming into existence. I don't think Science would have progressed very far if people just brushed off happenings as "the will of god", instead of investigating, observing, and figuring out the mechanisms that make things work.
If you choose to believe that life, the universe, and everything were created by a mystical triple deity, then that's your right. But for those who don't, it's perfectly reasonable to try and explain how life came to be, just as many other concepts that were previously thought by christians and other religious types to be the unknowable workings of god.
There are other parts of BeOS that are made to be portable as well, as part of the design - I think that supporting PPC and Intel is the best strategy, since those tend to be the dominant chips in the market. Alpha support would be neat, but hey. (btw, do a diskprobe on the portion of the disk where Be's about box is, you'll see references to the Alpha - there might be a port in the future, but only if Be makes some money soon.) Anyhow, I think you'll see be porting a lot more soon, with their new focus on IAs. They may not port to a whole different processor, but at least to fairly different architectures.
I said "if I'm not mistaken", and, reportedly, I was, and I said that. I have no authority to speak for the OpenBSD project officially. Don't be an ass.
And stop posting anonymously for no good reason, people. Sheesh. -lx
Aside from the hardware-independent executables(could someone explain to me how that could work?), the OS that you're describing sounds a whole lot like the BeOS. Totally object-based, low latency, easy to port(Be has a tendency to port to a new platform in under a week, even overnight). Amiga was a great platform in its time, and even beyond its time, but I'm not optimistic that it can ever catch up after all of its difficulties, although I hope it does.
I believe that was a problem with RSARef, not openssh itself, but hey. I don't know the details of that exploit, but even so - is the claim of "2 remote root exploits in 4 years" that shabby?
4 attacks per day is not exactly being under heavy fire. True, Linux can be made to be more secure, but I think what the earlier fellow was trying to say was that in high-risk environments, or where security is critical, OpenBSD is better suited to the job. And it does have the reputation to back that up - there have been no remote root exploits for OpenBSD for 4 years, if I remember correctly.
Ok, I have to ask - who in their right mind is running a news spool off of an NT machine?
Other than that, though, I have to say that I too am glad that MS is stepping up to the plate with security issues. Remember how they used to be? I think they've improved quite a bit in recent years, as far as responding promptly and issuing fixes. Of course, sometimes a bugfix will break another application - every programmer knows that. I expect that Win2k's security will probably be pretty good.
The whole point of a GUI is that it has a common look and feel. Linux GUIs appear scrappy because people are using different widget sets for different programs, and writing things optimized for different window managers. Now, I like being able to change windowmanagers, but the widget set should be standard, and there should be some basic UI guidelines for people to follow.
If a GUI doesn't have that commong look and feel, the user will become confused, and will have a harder time using different programs. And for all the honking on old UNIX users do about how wonderful the command line is, I think that GUIs are excellent for many things as well, if for no other reason than it drastically decreases the learning curve. When a user installs a new program, I doubt they want to read throught the documentation to find all the switches - they want to get using the program, and GUIs are good for this. Command lines have their place, and should always be available(this is why I have a general distaste for MacOS). Of course, Windows and MacOS have flaws, of course, but they both have GUIs that are reasonably well designed and thought out - and they have a common look and feel among most every application. BeOS, on the other hand, is perfect.:)
I think he may be being a little too optimistic in his predictions for when all this technological change will take place. He predicts around 2030, based on the current rate of technology improvements, and the rate at which the rate changes, which I'm sure there's a term for. However, predicting on current patterns doesn't work most of the time. If one were to look at 500 meter dash time records from say, 1950-1980, then one could probably predict that by the year 2000, people would be finishing the dash instantaneously, or possibly before they even started.
In the same vein, I think that predicting the growth of technology in the same way may not work. We will run into bottlenecks, and the rate of technological growth wil level out.
He predicted that by the year 2020, computers will have the power of a human brain - of course, this is assuming an increasing rate of growth - by this kind of logic, Intel will be releasing a new chip every day, and Linux will have a new kernel every week.
Course, I'm not a statistician, so I can't get real technical, I just think that his predictions seem a bit off. -lx
Ok, I don't even OWN a "CD-Player". I own several cd-roms, an amplifier, and some big speakers. My CD-ROM is my stereo. If any cds I got came crippled so as not to work with my stereo system, they would get them sent right back with quite an angry letter. Guess if this trend continues, we'll have no choice but to rip the cds to mp3 to listen to them - I thought the music industry didn't want that.
Disasterous showing? It's more than doubled, and beat the estimates that were expressed when they went public. Furthermore, no company has to be open-source to survive, as much as slashdot would like to think the contrary. Windows is doing fine, Office is doing fine, Real, and a host of others are handling everything just fine.
Open-sourcing BeOS would ruin Be. BeOS has advanced to a position far technologically advanced to Linux in the same amount of time, with far fewer people, and that wouldn't have been done without careful management. The open-source development model does not lend well to quick progress. It'd be nice if Slashdot could conceive of a company being successful without being open-source. The majority of software companies aren't.
That woman can read news to me any time she wants. But, erm, can you tweak her to read other things as well? I have a few things from usenet I haven't gotten around to yet...
I don't know how it's going to be any consolation that people of the same sex are operating these machines - as if there are no homosexuals on airport staff. I know I'd have a blast operating one...
As long as this is optional, that's fine with me. If it were mandatory it might be an issue. Either way, I don't think that this is going to cut down on terrorism or drug smuggling in any significant way. Most of us have been bringing our drugs back and forth to the US by sticking them up our asses anyhow.
I suppose that I would admit that the selfishness is not motivated by greed in the traditional sense. Its hard to say which license is the more idealistic, though.
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Erm, can linux stream video and sound while playing an mp3 and browsing the web? I don't think so, and this is a use that is well within the realm of what a user might do.
-lx
Linux made this possible, Be could not have.
Wrong.
And X is not a well-designed or integrated system. Compared to every other major OS, Linux GUIs do very poorly. Different widget sets all over the place, no design guidelines, etc contribute to the problem, IMO.
-lx
They do have built-in pop3 on the BeIAs.
-lx
BeOS is neither FreeBSD based nor Unix-like. The only thing that makes be even remotely similar to Unix is having bash and posix compliance. The OS was written from scratch, and not "based" on anything.
-lx
Yup, and that's why we're looking for it.
-lx
Of course truth is more important - but we don't have the truth. In the interim, we're going to both have to go in different directions until someone can prove their beliefs to be the truth conclusively.
-lx
Imagine the joy of a widow raising a child looking like her beloved deceased husband" she said.
Jesus Christ! Can I please not imagine that? That's about the freakiest thing you could possibly do with a clone(almost). Think of all the psychological issues both the mother and child would have, not to mention...ew! ewwww! What a messed up concept.
-lx
I've found that using a computer on pot can be very frustrating. Often, time seems to move so slowly that I'll start Netscape or something, go off to do something else, and after what seems like 5 or 10 minutes, netscape actually appears, and I wonder where it came from :)
Anymore, though, I hardly do any drugs, and definitely not anything like hallucinogens. I got that out of my system in high school, and don't feel the need to get back into it. Drugs can do some very neat things, but the possibility of permanent changes to the function of the brain(e.g., do you still have tracers?) aren't worth the temporary fun/insight for me.
Another thing that bugs me about this article is the constant link between raves and mdma. Before realizing that most ravers were generally just a bunch of fruity dumb kids with big pants, I went to a number of raves way back when, never on drugs, and found them to be thoroughly enjoyable, having much of the same experience as those who were on drugs. It's as if somehow drugs are a prerequisite to enjoying electronic music or feeling a sense of community or connectedness. I think if you need external substances to feel these things, you have a problem.
-lx
Hon - the probability of a 3-part god controlling the universe is at least as improbable to my mind as life coming into existence. I don't think Science would have progressed very far if people just brushed off happenings as "the will of god", instead of investigating, observing, and figuring out the mechanisms that make things work.
If you choose to believe that life, the universe, and everything were created by a mystical triple deity, then that's your right. But for those who don't, it's perfectly reasonable to try and explain how life came to be, just as many other concepts that were previously thought by christians and other religious types to be the unknowable workings of god.
-lx
There are other parts of BeOS that are made to be portable as well, as part of the design - I think that supporting PPC and Intel is the best strategy, since those tend to be the dominant chips in the market. Alpha support would be neat, but hey. (btw, do a diskprobe on the portion of the disk where Be's about box is, you'll see references to the Alpha - there might be a port in the future, but only if Be makes some money soon.)
Anyhow, I think you'll see be porting a lot more soon, with their new focus on IAs. They may not port to a whole different processor, but at least to fairly different architectures.
-lx
I said "if I'm not mistaken", and, reportedly, I was, and I said that. I have no authority to speak for the OpenBSD project officially. Don't be an ass.
And stop posting anonymously for no good reason, people. Sheesh.
-lx
Aside from the hardware-independent executables(could someone explain to me how that could work?), the OS that you're describing sounds a whole lot like the BeOS. Totally object-based, low latency, easy to port(Be has a tendency to port to a new platform in under a week, even overnight). Amiga was a great platform in its time, and even beyond its time, but I'm not optimistic that it can ever catch up after all of its difficulties, although I hope it does.
-lx
I believe that was a problem with RSARef, not openssh itself, but hey. I don't know the details of that exploit, but even so - is the claim of "2 remote root exploits in 4 years" that shabby?
-lx
A good solution to this would be to not post anonymously, and give evidence to support your claim.
-lx
4 attacks per day is not exactly being under heavy fire. True, Linux can be made to be more secure, but I think what the earlier fellow was trying to say was that in high-risk environments, or where security is critical, OpenBSD is better suited to the job. And it does have the reputation to back that up - there have been no remote root exploits for OpenBSD for 4 years, if I remember correctly.
-lx
Ok, I have to ask - who in their right mind is running a news spool off of an NT machine?
Other than that, though, I have to say that I too am glad that MS is stepping up to the plate with security issues. Remember how they used to be? I think they've improved quite a bit in recent years, as far as responding promptly and issuing fixes. Of course, sometimes a bugfix will break another application - every programmer knows that. I expect that Win2k's security will probably be pretty good.
-lx
The whole point of a GUI is that it has a common look and feel. Linux GUIs appear scrappy because people are using different widget sets for different programs, and writing things optimized for different window managers. Now, I like being able to change windowmanagers, but the widget set should be standard, and there should be some basic UI guidelines for people to follow.
:)
If a GUI doesn't have that commong look and feel, the user will become confused, and will have a harder time using different programs. And for all the honking on old UNIX users do about how wonderful the command line is, I think that GUIs are excellent for many things as well, if for no other reason than it drastically decreases the learning curve. When a user installs a new program, I doubt they want to read throught the documentation to find all the switches - they want to get using the program, and GUIs are good for this. Command lines have their place, and should always be available(this is why I have a general distaste for MacOS). Of course, Windows and MacOS have flaws, of course, but they both have GUIs that are reasonably well designed and thought out - and they have a common look and feel among most every application. BeOS, on the other hand, is perfect.
-lx
I think he may be being a little too optimistic in his predictions for when all this technological change will take place. He predicts around 2030, based on the current rate of technology improvements, and the rate at which the rate changes, which I'm sure there's a term for. However, predicting on current patterns doesn't work most of the time. If one were to look at 500 meter dash time records from say, 1950-1980, then one could probably predict that by the year 2000, people would be finishing the dash instantaneously, or possibly before they even started.
In the same vein, I think that predicting the growth of technology in the same way may not work. We will run into bottlenecks, and the rate of technological growth wil level out.
He predicted that by the year 2020, computers will have the power of a human brain - of course, this is assuming an increasing rate of growth - by this kind of logic, Intel will be releasing a new chip every day, and Linux will have a new kernel every week.
Course, I'm not a statistician, so I can't get real technical, I just think that his predictions seem a bit off.
-lx
Ok, I don't even OWN a "CD-Player". I own several cd-roms, an amplifier, and some big speakers. My CD-ROM is my stereo. If any cds I got came crippled so as not to work with my stereo system, they would get them sent right back with quite an angry letter. Guess if this trend continues, we'll have no choice but to rip the cds to mp3 to listen to them - I thought the music industry didn't want that.
-lx
The faq has been updated - you can run FreeBeOS as a standalone OS.
-lx
Disasterous showing? It's more than doubled, and beat the estimates that were expressed when they went public. Furthermore, no company has to be open-source to survive, as much as slashdot would like to think the contrary. Windows is doing fine, Office is doing fine, Real, and a host of others are handling everything just fine.
Open-sourcing BeOS would ruin Be. BeOS has advanced to a position far technologically advanced to Linux in the same amount of time, with far fewer people, and that wouldn't have been done without careful management. The open-source development model does not lend well to quick progress. It'd be nice if Slashdot could conceive of a company being successful without being open-source. The majority of software companies aren't.
-lx
That woman can read news to me any time she wants. But, erm, can you tweak her to read other things as well? I have a few things from usenet I haven't gotten around to yet...
-lx
Ok, scroll down so that you can't see Ballmer's scalp, and look at the face...ladies and gentlemen, the new CEO of Microsoft - Alan Alda!
-lx
I don't know how it's going to be any consolation that people of the same sex are operating these machines - as if there are no homosexuals on airport staff. I know I'd have a blast operating one...
As long as this is optional, that's fine with me. If it were mandatory it might be an issue. Either way, I don't think that this is going to cut down on terrorism or drug smuggling in any significant way. Most of us have been bringing our drugs back and forth to the US by sticking them up our asses anyhow.
-lx
I suppose that I would admit that the selfishness is not motivated by greed in the traditional sense. Its hard to say which license is the more idealistic, though.
-lx