IT's time we get real teachers in there and fire all the administration that makes retard decisions to have the Phys Ed teacher, to hold the algebra classes because he knows how to use a calculator.
Obviously, the Phys Ed teacher is better suited to teaching Physics, what with being a professional Physician.
Personally I think it is high time we use an old solution to fix a new problem...bring back the WPA. a lot of our bandwidth problems would disappear if we had nationwide FTTH or at least fiber to the neighborhood. It seems like a great way to put all those sitting at home on unemployment to work and you build it right and just as many bridges built by the WPA in rural areas still work fine so too could a well built fiber network last us for ages.
I think there is plenty of old-school WPA-type work that those people could be doing. lt won't happen because it means "Big Government" giving opportunity to poor people, and that is somehow un-American.
I can only laugh at the people who flip out because they are fired/expelled/whatever because someone found something inappropriate in a facebook or twitter post. I mean, really... what did they expect?
I have a big problem over people being punished over irrelevancies, private or not. Fired from your job because of something you do on the weekend that your boss doesn't "approve" of? That's BS. I have yet to see an job description/application that sets guidelines on how I use my personal time.
There is way too much hand-waving going on with respect to making unflattering or risque information "public" by failing to keep up to date on FB's latest privacy policy ruse. Ditto for the supposed "logic" of expecting people to live their entire lives as if they were on a webcam being broadcast on their employer's home page.
Unless there is clear damage to an employer's reputation, and I am talking legal libel/slander standards, I don't see any justification for judging of punishing people for "inappropriate" conduct. People shouldn't have to be paranoid about privacy. Are we all supposed to live our lives according to the standards of the most uptight HR weenie?
People should be able to trade their password for a chocolate bar, because it is illegal to steal.
Besides, what kind of idiot would patrol for crime unarmed?
AFAIK, carrying a gun is strongly discouraged among neighborhood watch groups. Their role is to watch their neighborhood and report suspicious activity to the police.
The reasons are made obvious by this case. If Zimmerman had followed police instructions, an kid who had his own right to walk through that neighborhood would be alive, and Zimmerman wouldn't be looking at a life spent either in jail or as a pariah.
Where is this racism? I don't get it? Where is your damning proof that he's a racist? He helped and worked with the black people in his community, who trusted and respected him. Where is he obviously racist?
You are cherry picking quotes. I can do that too, e.g.:
Zimmerman went door-to-door asking residents to be on the lookout, specifically referring to young black men who appeared to be outsiders
He came by here and talked about carrying guns and getting my wife more involved with guns,” he said. “He said I should have a weapon and that his wife took classes to learn how to use one.
“I do have a weapon, but I don’t walk around the neighborhood with mine!”
Actually, he does not walk around the neighborhood at all.
“I fit the stereotype he emailed around,” he said. “Listen, you even hear me say it: ‘A black guy did this. A black guy did that.’ So I thought, ‘Let me sit in the house. I don’t want anyone chasing me.’”
For walks, he goes downtown. A pregnant Quianna listened to her husband’s rationale, dropped her head, and cried.
“That’s so sad,” she said. “I hope our child doesn’t have to go through that.”
BTW, that second quote directly follows your fourth. Also, the high praise for George in your first quote comes from his own father.
The alternative is adequate planning and the willingness to spend what is required to get the job done w/o making unreasonable demands on subordinates.
As a programmer, whenever we end up having to work late the company ends up paying for our dinner. It's a nice compromise since I don't get overtime pay (salaried) and it doesn't happen all that often to be annoying.
I could see this being acceptable if the meal was exactly what you wanted and the finest quality available. Otherwise, its a sucker deal.
And if he was attacked by Martin first, Martin was only exerting his right to Stand His Ground, no?
The first person to (reasonably) feel threatened with death or serious violence was justified in defending himself. The person who created that (reasonable) fear can not claim self defense, any more than a convenience store robber can shoot a clerk who pulls a revolver out of the cash drawer in "self defense".
It stopped being a safe neighborhood when the residents felt the need to patrol their neighborhood because crimes were being committed and the police were ineffective in preventing and solving said crimes.
The only problem is that criminals are coddled by the system.
There were a few property crimes. Zimmerman ultimately helped solve a small number of them, but only by creating an atmosphere of harassment of black people in their own neighborhood and eventually killing one.
Or is that the kind of non-coddling that you are looking for?
Height doesn't mean squat. Zimmerman was bigger, older, and illogically confrontational (Trayvon wouldn't have known about Zimmerman's paranoia about blacks and petty crime).
Zimmerman was also armed, of course. So I suppose we should take from that that a person of any size chasing us around for no apparent rational or legitimate reason is a potential deadly threat.
Pretty soon police will be confined to being able to do nothing more than asking criminals to stop committing crimes. Ask too harshly and it will be a hate crime.
You come to this conclusion based on the outcry over police doing too little?
The people at the Retreat at Twin Lakes had been missing bikes, grills and a few times thought strangers were casing their town houses.
When the homeowners association wanted to start a neighborhood watch, only one man stepped up: George Zimmerman, the 28-year-old who admitted to shooting an unarmed Miami Gardens teenager and who is now the focal point of a race-related scandal of national proportions.
Interviews with neighbors reveal a pleasant young man passionate about neighborhood security who took it upon himself to do nightly patrols while he walked his dog.
Licensed to carry a firearm and a student of criminal justice, Zimmerman went door-to-door asking residents to be on the lookout, specifically referring to young black men who appeared to be outsiders, and warned that some were caught lurking, neighbors said. The self-appointed captain of the neighborhood watch program is credited with cracking some crimes, and thwarting others.
It stopped being a safe neighborhood when armed vigilantes started stalking the streets, harassing people based on their suspicious blackness, and killing them when they legitimately stand their own ground against threatening behavior.
Do you have real experience with or knowledge about this neighborhood, or are you just displaying a bias against neighborhood watches in general? Despite the best efforts of the media, I haven't seen any evidence at all (that wasn't easily debunked) to suggest that George Zimmerman was motivated by race, and I haven't read any stories of any other so-called "vigilantes" in that neighborhood, so I'm just wondering how you reached your conclusions.
But supposed that is either debunked or can be satisfactorily weasled around. Does it make his actions acceptable to you? Ignoring sane neighborhood watch protocols and the 911 operator and confronting someone while packing a gun?
Because having someone threaten your life is not a direct consequence of doing something inadvisable.
It is if that inadvisable action is reasonably perceived as a threat to that someone's life. I don't know about you, but I'd be sketched out by some un-uniformed slob stalking me through the streets after dark. Especially if I was a skinny young kid and he was a large adult male. I would feel threatened. I would try to escape, and I would fight them off if escape was not an option.
In America in 2012, you don't approach strangers in the dark and expect them to believe that you are harmless.
I am really curious to know what evidence they have to justify a second degree murder charge.
He clearly precipitated the confrontation, and there is no question that subsequently he killed somone. Pretty cut and dry. Whether he will be found guilty remains to be seen.
Someone put six bullet holes, last night they shot up, a parked police car that was left near the scene of the shooting. The message being that violence against the police is coming if they don't arrest Zimmerman and charge him with murder. They shot up a cop car. As if that neighborhood didn't need a reason for a neighborhood watch now they have guys firing live rounds into police cars? That's a safe neighborhood?
It stopped being a safe neighborhood when armed vigilantes started stalking the streets, harassing people based on their suspicious blackness, and killing them when they legitimately stand their own ground against threatening behavior.
The police didn't want to nip that in the bud, so now they have an even bigger problem. I hope they get off their asses and establish sanity with a minimum of further violence.
He wasn't doing anything wrong when he was harassed by an unknown creep, and his killer had no knowledge of his parent's child rearing skills.
Meanwhile, it was Zimmerman who was rolling around the neighborhood with a gun looking for trouble. Why don't you rant about his parents (his father was a judge, ffs) and his screwed up attitude?
He was not a neighborhood watch volunteer. He had no affiliation with any organization, no training and this whole tragedy stemmed from his disregard for standard neighborhood watch procedure.
You're right. Instead of the upsized all-you-can-choke-down soda and the swimming-in-trans-fat popcorn, I'll just step up to the salad bar at the movie theater.
Wait. What?
The theater I patronize has a full menu (including salads). It also serves beer and tickets are cheaper than at the megaplex. But even if you have no such option, can you really not go 2 hours without eating?
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IT's time we get real teachers in there and fire all the administration that makes retard decisions to have the Phys Ed teacher, to hold the algebra classes because he knows how to use a calculator.
Obviously, the Phys Ed teacher is better suited to teaching Physics, what with being a professional Physician.
Actually, a cow can be considered a predator. And because the prey (eg area of grass) survives the cow is a grazing predator - just like a mosquito.
I think that the relevant definition of "predator" hinges on survival by eating other animals.
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Personally I think it is high time we use an old solution to fix a new problem...bring back the WPA. a lot of our bandwidth problems would disappear if we had nationwide FTTH or at least fiber to the neighborhood. It seems like a great way to put all those sitting at home on unemployment to work and you build it right and just as many bridges built by the WPA in rural areas still work fine so too could a well built fiber network last us for ages.
I think there is plenty of old-school WPA-type work that those people could be doing. lt won't happen because it means "Big Government" giving opportunity to poor people, and that is somehow un-American.
I can only laugh at the people who flip out because they are fired/expelled/whatever because someone found something inappropriate in a facebook or twitter post. I mean, really... what did they expect?
I have a big problem over people being punished over irrelevancies, private or not. Fired from your job because of something you do on the weekend that your boss doesn't "approve" of? That's BS. I have yet to see an job description/application that sets guidelines on how I use my personal time.
There is way too much hand-waving going on with respect to making unflattering or risque information "public" by failing to keep up to date on FB's latest privacy policy ruse. Ditto for the supposed "logic" of expecting people to live their entire lives as if they were on a webcam being broadcast on their employer's home page.
Unless there is clear damage to an employer's reputation, and I am talking legal libel/slander standards, I don't see any justification for judging of punishing people for "inappropriate" conduct. People shouldn't have to be paranoid about privacy. Are we all supposed to live our lives according to the standards of the most uptight HR weenie?
People should be able to trade their password for a chocolate bar, because it is illegal to steal.
Besides, what kind of idiot would patrol for crime unarmed?
AFAIK, carrying a gun is strongly discouraged among neighborhood watch groups. Their role is to watch their neighborhood and report suspicious activity to the police.
The reasons are made obvious by this case. If Zimmerman had followed police instructions, an kid who had his own right to walk through that neighborhood would be alive, and Zimmerman wouldn't be looking at a life spent either in jail or as a pariah.
Where is this racism? I don't get it? Where is your damning proof that he's a racist? He helped and worked with the black people in his community, who trusted and respected him. Where is he obviously racist?
You are cherry picking quotes. I can do that too, e.g.:
Zimmerman went door-to-door asking residents to be on the lookout, specifically referring to young black men who appeared to be outsiders
He came by here and talked about carrying guns and getting my wife more involved with guns,” he said. “He said I should have a weapon and that his wife took classes to learn how to use one.
“I do have a weapon, but I don’t walk around the neighborhood with mine!”
Actually, he does not walk around the neighborhood at all.
“I fit the stereotype he emailed around,” he said. “Listen, you even hear me say it: ‘A black guy did this. A black guy did that.’ So I thought, ‘Let me sit in the house. I don’t want anyone chasing me.’”
For walks, he goes downtown. A pregnant Quianna listened to her husband’s rationale, dropped her head, and cried.
“That’s so sad,” she said. “I hope our child doesn’t have to go through that.”
BTW, that second quote directly follows your fourth. Also, the high praise for George in your first quote comes from his own father.
The alternative is adequate planning and the willingness to spend what is required to get the job done w/o making unreasonable demands on subordinates.
As a programmer, whenever we end up having to work late the company ends up paying for our dinner. It's a nice compromise since I don't get overtime pay (salaried) and it doesn't happen all that often to be annoying.
I could see this being acceptable if the meal was exactly what you wanted and the finest quality available. Otherwise, its a sucker deal.
Yeah, if they are the types who actually enjoy their jobs and get along with their coworkers this could be a lot of fun.
I'm that type but I would not consider this "fun". I could probably tolerate it for a short span, but would expect to be appropriately compensated.
And if he was attacked by Martin first, Martin was only exerting his right to Stand His Ground, no?
The first person to (reasonably) feel threatened with death or serious violence was justified in defending himself. The person who created that (reasonable) fear can not claim self defense, any more than a convenience store robber can shoot a clerk who pulls a revolver out of the cash drawer in "self defense".
It stopped being a safe neighborhood when the residents felt the need to patrol their neighborhood because crimes were being committed and the police were ineffective in preventing and solving said crimes.
The only problem is that criminals are coddled by the system.
There were a few property crimes. Zimmerman ultimately helped solve a small number of them, but only by creating an atmosphere of harassment of black people in their own neighborhood and eventually killing one.
Or is that the kind of non-coddling that you are looking for?
Read the story: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/17/2700249/trayvon-martin-shooter-a-habitual.html. The guy was so amped up on black people that even black people who lived in the neighborhood, who as their self-appointed watchmen he should probably be able to recognize, felt that he was harassing them based on racial profiling.
Height doesn't mean squat. Zimmerman was bigger, older, and illogically confrontational (Trayvon wouldn't have known about Zimmerman's paranoia about blacks and petty crime).
Zimmerman was also armed, of course. So I suppose we should take from that that a person of any size chasing us around for no apparent rational or legitimate reason is a potential deadly threat.
Pretty soon police will be confined to being able to do nothing more than asking criminals to stop committing crimes. Ask too harshly and it will be a hate crime.
You come to this conclusion based on the outcry over police doing too little?
Funny how liberals pick the ethnicity that suits their argument.
Obama is from mixed race parents, but is referred to as black because he looks black.
Zimmerman doesn't look Euro white, but it is convenient to emphasize his white parent when picking sides in this story.
How does Obama typically refer to himself? How about Zimmerman?
So I see:
The people at the Retreat at Twin Lakes had been missing bikes, grills and a few times thought strangers were casing their town houses.
When the homeowners association wanted to start a neighborhood watch, only one man stepped up: George Zimmerman, the 28-year-old who admitted to shooting an unarmed Miami Gardens teenager and who is now the focal point of a race-related scandal of national proportions.
Interviews with neighbors reveal a pleasant young man passionate about neighborhood security who took it upon himself to do nightly patrols while he walked his dog.
Licensed to carry a firearm and a student of criminal justice, Zimmerman went door-to-door asking residents to be on the lookout, specifically referring to young black men who appeared to be outsiders, and warned that some were caught lurking, neighbors said. The self-appointed captain of the neighborhood watch program is credited with cracking some crimes, and thwarting others.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/17/2700249/trayvon-martin-shooter-a-habitual.html#storylink=cpy
It stopped being a safe neighborhood when armed vigilantes started stalking the streets, harassing people based on their suspicious blackness, and killing them when they legitimately stand their own ground against threatening behavior.
Do you have real experience with or knowledge about this neighborhood, or are you just displaying a bias against neighborhood watches in general? Despite the best efforts of the media, I haven't seen any evidence at all (that wasn't easily debunked) to suggest that George Zimmerman was motivated by race, and I haven't read any stories of any other so-called "vigilantes" in that neighborhood, so I'm just wondering how you reached your conclusions.
I have read that Zimmerman specifically targeted blacks for watching. E.g. http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/17/2700249/trayvon-martin-shooter-a-habitual.html
But supposed that is either debunked or can be satisfactorily weasled around. Does it make his actions acceptable to you? Ignoring sane neighborhood watch protocols and the 911 operator and confronting someone while packing a gun?
Because having someone threaten your life is not a direct consequence of doing something inadvisable.
It is if that inadvisable action is reasonably perceived as a threat to that someone's life. I don't know about you, but I'd be sketched out by some un-uniformed slob stalking me through the streets after dark. Especially if I was a skinny young kid and he was a large adult male. I would feel threatened. I would try to escape, and I would fight them off if escape was not an option.
In America in 2012, you don't approach strangers in the dark and expect them to believe that you are harmless.
Zimmerman was well known for calling 911 to report black people as suspicious.
You can (legitimately) hate the media hype, the political opportunism, etc., but the defendant is a creep who killed someone for no good reason.
You might want to research the meaning of "hispanic". There are "hispanics" of all races (yes, all).
I am really curious to know what evidence they have to justify a second degree murder charge.
He clearly precipitated the confrontation, and there is no question that subsequently he killed somone. Pretty cut and dry. Whether he will be found guilty remains to be seen.
Someone put six bullet holes, last night they shot up, a parked police car that was left near the scene of the shooting. The message being that violence against the police is coming if they don't arrest Zimmerman and charge him with murder. They shot up a cop car. As if that neighborhood didn't need a reason for a neighborhood watch now they have guys firing live rounds into police cars? That's a safe neighborhood?
It stopped being a safe neighborhood when armed vigilantes started stalking the streets, harassing people based on their suspicious blackness, and killing them when they legitimately stand their own ground against threatening behavior.
The police didn't want to nip that in the bud, so now they have an even bigger problem. I hope they get off their asses and establish sanity with a minimum of further violence.
He wasn't doing anything wrong when he was harassed by an unknown creep, and his killer had no knowledge of his parent's child rearing skills.
Meanwhile, it was Zimmerman who was rolling around the neighborhood with a gun looking for trouble. Why don't you rant about his parents (his father was a judge, ffs) and his screwed up attitude?
He was not a neighborhood watch volunteer. He had no affiliation with any organization, no training and this whole tragedy stemmed from his disregard for standard neighborhood watch procedure.
He was an armed vigilante.
You're right. Instead of the upsized all-you-can-choke-down soda and the swimming-in-trans-fat popcorn, I'll just step up to the salad bar at the movie theater.
Wait. What?
The theater I patronize has a full menu (including salads). It also serves beer and tickets are cheaper than at the megaplex. But even if you have no such option, can you really not go 2 hours without eating?