No i expect a normal person to use the GUI such as network manager or just google it. However my solution is a pretty good guide that will work 99% of the time across every release of most distros and is quicker than using a GUI.
Try giving somebody instructions for setting up a static IP on windows, that will work on windows XP/vista/7. For configuration GUIs can suck my balls, i'll take a text file with a nice header over a fancy GUI, especially as you only configure something once!
peripherals are plug and play, if something is going to work it will work when you plug it in.
As long as windows is playing catchup: *file sharing via drag and drop was soo kde3 *command line utilities like grep,sed,awk,bash vs powershell *widgets, foldermenus, multiple sidebars were in superkarama/kicker/gnome before Google desktop/vista even existed
Then its never going to....oh, oh right.
Shuttleworth is entirely correct on this point, if you want to use the applications that are only available for windows, then do, but Linux is not windows and never will be. Nor is it/should it play catchup with an inferior OS.
iver never done this but i'd guess you want killall NetworkManager man interfaces nano/etc/network/interfaces
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
i think you'll need, to permanently kill NetworkManager with: update-rc.d -f NetworkManager remove
and/etc/resolve.conf will need configuring for your dns servers
ofc the whole thing is probably covered in a tutorial you could find on the ubuntu forums
If you read what he said: "they both play an important role
but fundamentally, the free software ecosystem needs to thrive on its own rules
it is *different* to the proprietary software universe
we need to make a success of our own platform on our own terms
if Linux is just another way to run Windows apps, we can't win
OS/2 tried that" much better to have open source apps! Proprietary apps running natively on Linux affect the free software ecosystem in the same way that proprietary apps on wine. Proprietary apps may get more users over, but if they hurt the development of free alternatives then its a bad thing.
(12:24:03 PM) jcastro: jcastro: QUESTION: Do you see Wine (and Windows-compatibilty in general) or native Linux ports as the more important ingredient in the success of Ubuntu, or do they each play an important role? (12:24:18 PM) sabdfl: they both play an important role (12:24:30 PM) sabdfl: but fundamentally, the free software ecosystem needs to thrive on its own rules (12:24:41 PM) sabdfl: it is *different* to the proprietary software universe (12:24:54 PM) sabdfl: we need to make a success of our own platform on our own terms (12:25:08 PM) sabdfl: if Linux is just another way to run Windows apps, we can't win (12:25:13 PM) sabdfl: OS/2 tried that
I can't believe this point was lost on so many people, the 1.0 discs were only made by 1 vendor (due to being an EPIC fuck up) so they would be very rare,.'. sacred
There are many questions, and each have a different answer: Hardware producing company - How many computuers have linux installed? (~3%) Software producing company - How much time is spent using linux? (~1%.5) Web site developers - Dont care about OS, just browsers hours ( id guess >50% firefox) Average ubuntu user - Whats the biggest number people will belive for linux share? (~5%) Enlightened Linux user - Who gives a shit, linux is my favorite os!
Over simplify much there, slick? Consumers will pay more. End of story.
Over simplify much? For starters oil is not a typical product. Secondly while simplifying the situation my points where entirely valid. The cost of producing many products is significantly less that their price (consumer electronics, software, entertainment industries, many foodstuffs (not you cheap stuff though), clothes (again not your cheapest stuff), etc), in these industries increasing the price will cut into profits. Sure for necessities people will pay what they are charged, but most stuff you buy is not essential and you pay what your comfortable with.
I live in london (uk) where a pint of beer is often ~£2.80, if i go to a small town near newcastle the same pint will cost just ~£1.80. The cost of producing and transporting the beer is the same, the cost of bar staff is the same and while license prices may vary there is no way they add ~£1 to the price of beer. So why is beer much more expensive in London? Because more people are willing to pay more money for it.'. pubs charge more. The same argument can be put for newly built houses or do houses magically cost much (obviously there is an added cost much less than the added price) more to build in London
It very much depends on the market, In the worst case, the entire cost is passed onto consumers, but the reduction in use of tax havens still means smaller local companies (for who its not viable to have an tax haven) can compete more effectively, however many industries have their prices based on what the customer will pay and so changing the cost of production will have no effect on the price!
Do you mean, they believe they can only reach enlightenment if they plow enough money into it? Or simply that despite being quite their leader has made some dick moves they still worship him?
I think the UK has some pretty big tax problems, I remember seeing a documentary that told of dodgy companies that exported stuff from Ireland unto the uk, then getting money back (from uk customs) because of tax rules in the EU on intercountry exports/imports, then using the same stock to do it again without actually selling anything in the UK.
It will always be worth it for large companies to use tax havens, over time the free market seams to tend towards there being a few huge companies, and the only way to make them pay their taxes is by making it very hard to not pay them!
You make 2 flawed assumptions 1) consumers will be willing to pay more 2) price is in related to production cost.
There are few markets where these are true, generally price is the optimum price for making money from customer ( ~= the most most customers will pay).
1. raise overseas tax and get some tax of companies (theoretically allowing you to tax individuals less) 2. engage in a race to the bottom, where companies end up paying no tax at all because some island somewhere offers 0.01% tax
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No i expect a normal person to use the GUI such as network manager or just google it. However my solution is a pretty good guide that will work 99% of the time across every release of most distros and is quicker than using a GUI.
Try giving somebody instructions for setting up a static IP on windows, that will work on windows XP/vista/7. For configuration GUIs can suck my balls, i'll take a text file with a nice header over a fancy GUI, especially as you only configure something once!
what so banks changed in response to the 10% apple share and not the more than 25% firefox share?
multiple desktops
customization
multiple taskbars
fancy 3d effects / low resource uses
If your going to be using windows apps anyway, what do you have to gain by migrating?
peripherals are plug and play, if something is going to work it will work when you plug it in.
As long as windows is playing catchup:
*file sharing via drag and drop was soo kde3
*command line utilities like grep,sed,awk,bash vs powershell
*widgets, foldermenus, multiple sidebars were in superkarama/kicker/gnome before Google desktop/vista even existed
Then its never going to....oh, oh right.
Shuttleworth is entirely correct on this point, if you want to use the applications that are only available for windows, then do, but Linux is not windows and never will be. Nor is it/should it play catchup with an inferior OS.
iver never done this but i'd guess you want /etc/network/interfaces
killall NetworkManager
man interfaces
nano
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
i think you'll need, to permanently kill NetworkManager with:
update-rc.d -f NetworkManager remove
and /etc/resolve.conf will need configuring for your dns servers
ofc the whole thing is probably covered in a tutorial you could find on the ubuntu forums
If you read what he said:
"they both play an important role
but fundamentally, the free software ecosystem needs to thrive on its own rules
it is *different* to the proprietary software universe
we need to make a success of our own platform on our own terms
if Linux is just another way to run Windows apps, we can't win
OS/2 tried that"
much better to have open source apps! Proprietary apps running natively on Linux affect the free software ecosystem in the same way that proprietary apps on wine. Proprietary apps may get more users over, but if they hurt the development of free alternatives then its a bad thing.
TFStory
(12:24:03 PM) jcastro: jcastro: QUESTION: Do you see Wine (and Windows-compatibilty in general) or native Linux ports as the more important ingredient in the success of Ubuntu, or do they each play an important role?
(12:24:18 PM) sabdfl: they both play an important role
(12:24:30 PM) sabdfl: but fundamentally, the free software ecosystem needs to thrive on its own rules
(12:24:41 PM) sabdfl: it is *different* to the proprietary software universe
(12:24:54 PM) sabdfl: we need to make a success of our own platform on our own terms
(12:25:08 PM) sabdfl: if Linux is just another way to run Windows apps, we can't win
(12:25:13 PM) sabdfl: OS/2 tried that
The 1.0 discs were flawed but as they were only made by one vendor they are very rare, hence why they would be a sacred relic.
I can't believe this point was lost on so many people, the 1.0 discs were only made by 1 vendor (due to being an EPIC fuck up) so they would be very rare, .'. sacred
n/t
There are many questions, and each have a different answer:
Hardware producing company - How many computuers have linux installed? (~3%)
Software producing company - How much time is spent using linux? (~1%.5)
Web site developers - Dont care about OS, just browsers hours ( id guess >50% firefox)
Average ubuntu user - Whats the biggest number people will belive for linux share? (~5%)
Enlightened Linux user - Who gives a shit, linux is my favorite os!
was reading the summary too much for you?
I think the w3counter is at 2.26%, and has always (since 2005) been above 1%
Where?
If you went out in France/Sweden youd get different results to US.
unless your Buddhist, but then you get an instant respawn!
Over simplify much there, slick? Consumers will pay more. End of story.
Over simplify much? For starters oil is not a typical product. Secondly while simplifying the situation my points where entirely valid.
The cost of producing many products is significantly less that their price (consumer electronics, software, entertainment industries, many foodstuffs (not you cheap stuff though), clothes (again not your cheapest stuff), etc), in these industries increasing the price will cut into profits.
Sure for necessities people will pay what they are charged, but most stuff you buy is not essential and you pay what your comfortable with.
I live in london (uk) where a pint of beer is often ~£2.80, if i go to a small town near newcastle the same pint will cost just ~£1.80. The cost of producing and transporting the beer is the same, the cost of bar staff is the same and while license prices may vary there is no way they add ~£1 to the price of beer. So why is beer much more expensive in London? Because more people are willing to pay more money for it .'. pubs charge more. The same argument can be put for newly built houses or do houses magically cost much (obviously there is an added cost much less than the added price) more to build in London
It very much depends on the market, In the worst case, the entire cost is passed onto consumers, but the reduction in use of tax havens still means smaller local companies (for who its not viable to have an tax haven) can compete more effectively, however many industries have their prices based on what the customer will pay and so changing the cost of production will have no effect on the price!
Do you mean, they believe they can only reach enlightenment if they plow enough money into it? Or simply that despite being quite their leader has made some dick moves they still worship him?
why would the cult of apple curse IBM!? did IBM not cometh and deliverith the sacred PC of power?
Name: cult of free software
Established: 1985
Major Deity: RMS
Sacred document: GPL
Antichrist: !GPL'd software
and
Name: cult of debian
Established: 1993
Major Deity(s): Bruce Perens & people called Ian
Sacred relic: Debian 1.0 discs
Antichrist: ubuntu
yeah after mentioning ubuntu, not mentioning apple looses major credibility
~A concerned Debian users
I think the UK has some pretty big tax problems, I remember seeing a documentary that told of dodgy companies that exported stuff from Ireland unto the uk, then getting money back (from uk customs) because of tax rules in the EU on intercountry exports/imports, then using the same stock to do it again without actually selling anything in the UK.
It will always be worth it for large companies to use tax havens, over time the free market seams to tend towards there being a few huge companies, and the only way to make them pay their taxes is by making it very hard to not pay them!
Microsoft -> kick up a big fuss
Cisco -> say it's a bad idea
Google -> keep quiet and get taxed
Obviously using tax havens may be considered evil in itself, but at least they are being the least evil.
You make 2 flawed assumptions
1) consumers will be willing to pay more
2) price is in related to production cost.
There are few markets where these are true, generally price is the optimum price for making money from customer ( ~= the most most customers will pay).
1. raise overseas tax and get some tax of companies (theoretically allowing you to tax individuals less)
2. engage in a race to the bottom, where companies end up paying no tax at all because some island somewhere offers 0.01% tax