The title of the article is misleading: the macbook was not hacked using its normal built-in wireless adapter and its Apple drivers. The video (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/vide o/2006/08/02/VI2006080201424.html) of the exploit *clearly* shows and explains that they are using an *external* third party wireless adapter which comes with its own wireless driver. This driver is the culpit and is succeptible to the exploit. The wireless adapter they demoes is widly used with PC laptop and the drivers on PC are similarly flawed. This demo was to show that device driver makers need to be a lot less careless and test their drivers a lot more. One thing that is unclear in the demo is whether root access was gained. The demo shows creating, reading, and deleting files on the MacBook user's Desktop. I would have like them to do a "rm -rf/" and see whether they could really do this.
Think for a second... could it be that fear is also exactly what the nay-sayers are using to take the wind out of people trying to push public consciousness of environment and the damage we have been doing to it? The current administration, and a few others before, have been scaring the heck out of people telling them that they would loose their jobs, that US quality of life would be lowered, that they would no longer be free to do what they want, if tighter regulations were passed. If you think that scientists could be biased solely to save their paycheck then you are sorely ignorant of science, scientific method, and the reason driving scientists to do science. Again, you likely have things backward... it is more likely that it is the rich US elite, owners of car manufacturing plants, power plants, industry in general, who are afraid of changing their ways because this would allow new, more nimble, more imaginative competitor to dislodge them form their current monopolistic positions.
Just when I was going to give up and was thinking to myself: "screw it, humans are too dumb. I give up. If they are that stupid then we do not deserve to be around in a few 100 years"... someone posts a comment without FUD. Imagine that, a small % of the slashdot users do have a brain... sigh... this is all so depressing. Independently if the movie itself, I would enourage anyone to read Jared Diamond's last book titled Collapse. It brings home the harsh reality of what is at stake here. Yes, fixing the CO2 emission might or might not solve the problem. BUT, not fixing it is very likely to make the problem worse. So why no fix it? So that we do not lower our standard of living in the short term (i.e. lifetime of an administration... which is as far as the political process can see forward)? Even if one assumes that lowering human generated CO2 emission levels (and poplution as a whole) is actually bad for the economy in the long term (which is a ridiculus assumption if you think of it for one minute), the stakes are huge and can/will lead humanity to a very harsh, if not impossible, existance in a few years. Oh, but wait... now I remember... isn't there something call the Rapture that more that 50% of people in the US believe in? ok, back to being depressed... I give up. People are just too dumb.
Has anyone contemplated sueing F-Secure and other virus/malware/rootkit software checker company??? After all, these companies get money from people. These people expect a service in return: the detection of malware and viruses (virii?). If it is clear that F-Secure knew about it, how could they sit on their hands and do nothing? Just because it is Sony? Do they give the same leway to hackers in Russia? I think that this demonstrates that you really cannot trust businesses to take care of users. They all seem to be in for themselves...
A related bill is being discussed in Congress to also change the start and end dates of seasons. While most law makers Global Warming is still believed to be an unproven theory, they propose to change move the beginning of Summer to March 1st and the End of Summer to October 31st, which making the other 3 seasons correspondly smaller. This proposal aims at lessening the number of complains received from people complaining about how unreasonably hot the weather has become in the Spring and Fall seasons.
Because this cost includes the cost of the space shuttle flight. This is completely bogus because in the past shuttle cost did not come out of NASA's science budget. As was mentioned during the hearing, the 30 flights to the ISS will not be billed as 30 billion dollars to NASA, so why is suddendly a mission to HST being billed to NASA this way? This is accounting manbo-jumbo to make it less attractive to go fix HST. In fact, fixing HST is 500 millions dollars... If you are going to say that it is 1 billion, then the public should be told that the ISS really costs 30 billions!!!
"successfully protects the content from unauthorised copying" Cool! Does this mean that they managed to develop software that will determine whether I have pure thoughts when I try to copy the CD I bought in order to make a perfectly legal, fair use, copy of it ofr my own personal use?:-)
Your watching commercials does NOT pay for the programsyou watch. The companies whose commercials are shown are the ones that are paying for the programming you see. What I'd like to know is exactly what part of the 12x80. = $960.00/year I pay to get cable (the only way to get any channels where I live) pays for the programming... oh, that's right... almost none of it... it all goes to the cable companie, who pays something like $0.25/month/channel to the orginal producers. Well, guess what... don't expect me to feel imoral for not wanting to watch this in-your-face, dumb, lowest denominator commercials... Time for the content creators to get with the times and find proper way to fund their programming. This commercial "tv tax" is an anachronism!
Mac/OS X users CAN run Windows on their Powerpc's, using Virtual PC. Now, most people use Virtual PC as little as possible, because Windows apps are absolutely unusuable when compared to most OS X apps. Even Windows ports such as Office 2004 are painful to use on the Mac. This is more than simply the question of what OS is available for what platform. This is all about platform "culture" and what people's priorities are when they use their PCs. Mac users have been shown many times to be more task oriented and less tool/program driven as Windows users. Being able to run Windows on a Mac is not something most Mac users would care about, unless it is because they were given a brand new G5 and really did not want one to start with ( you could send it to me if you want...).
And why should people be penalized because some *reatard* cannot possibly sit two hours without having the urge to feel self-important and stand up and run out of the movie theater. If you are too busy to watch a movie, stay home, or work, or wherever else you'd rather be. Just having your phone on vibrate still means that you are one of the annoying people who stands up like an idiot, fumbling around and creating mayhem while other people are trying to get their money worth and trying to actually *watch* the movie, and not you, the standing clown making noise...
The original post propagates, once again, the "macs are slow" myth. Give me a break. I switched from PC a while back and have never looked back. My Mac(s) are great preformers, silent, reliable, come with a wonderful OS.
I am not condonning pirating software BUT a lot of the software I buy comes with a non-refundable clause. I have several packages which looked ok when I demoed them but have since turned out to be incomplete or buggy.
It is all very good to on one hand expect your software to be pirated but then shareware authors should not screw honest people who buy their sofware and would like to return it.
People would be much more willing to shell out the few dollars required to register software if they did not feel that this was a monetary black hole which did not quaranty that the software will really be working as advertized, or as the users assumes it would.
Places like Wal-mart etc... have long learned that it is better to keep people happy then to stick it to them. Maybe software makers should start doing the same.
And Americains would survive quite well if people could gamble online legally, or actually see a nipple on TV once in a while instead of just murders, violence, and gore. Then again, maybe not, you are right, French people are not children and would fare much better than the Americains in this example. ooops.
Oh pleeeeeaaase! If you want to live in a country where religion is on every bill, where a Presidential candidate has to use the word God at least 5 times in a speech then just live here. Some people, such as the French as it turn out, were under the thumb or the Church and religion for a tad bit longer that the US. Following the (many) revolution(s) a secular society was borned. Churches were burned, Emperors and Kings guillotined, and a clear separation between Church and State was established. You might be well meaning when you point your well concerned fingers to France and its ban on head scarfs, but guess what: not everyone believe in a fairy tell that tried to explain why the world is the way it is. What we need in this country is freedom FROM religion and not freedom OF religion. In any case, you are off topic. And look what you have done, yo manage to get me off topic too. Damn you! Evil! Evil!
I cannot beleive it... you actually posted something constructive. I lost count but this is like post #2 so far... We (well, maybe not me) are down by like 498 to 2. Keep up the good work. And do not feel bad when you are painted as being a "liberal":-)
Yep. Or the US State Dept. and the French equivalent can meet and decide how they will deal with this. This is a trade issue, not a Free Speech issue. A bit like if French car makers sold cars to the US without emmission control and the US stopped them because it was against the law and France complained that this was against free speech or free trade. In the end, it would be a trade issue and if the US governement thought that it was a good deal they would swallow their pride and compromise. Not that I think that French cares are worth the effort, but I am trying to draw an analogy here:-)
The true irony is that people recognize (truly in my personal opinion, but I do not get to vote in France and do not care if most people there disagree, it is their choice) laws like these abroad as dictatorship like laws but fail to see how bad things are right here. It is so easy to have a dumb american knee jerk patriotic response in this type of situation, but it is not helpful. If Yahoo.com can sell Nazi stuff to France, then surelly, buying music from allofmp3.com is ok then? You have to choose what you want, conveniently select what passes as Free Speech, Free Market, Subsidies, etc.. and then ignore your own actions in the world. This is just too damn hypocritical.
It is not really about Free Speech, but about making money. Why is this so hard to understand? This is not about some guy writting a book criticizing the Vichi governemt during the war, or De Gaulle, or saying how great Hitler was. This is about a few people hidding behind free speech to make a buck by stumping on over people's values. This is just the modern incarnation of Imperialism. This country is too young, or too stupid and too mostly un-educated, to realize that this is a very dangerous thing to do and will lead to all kind of problems in the future. Think about it, this is not the US government saying "gees, these French people are doing something very wrong" but a bunch of fat cats which cannot wait to make more money by exporting Yahoo! jobs to India. You do not like France, you do not like that they are different, then do not go there, do not by their products, stay at home, and relish your sense of superiority. Trust me, nobody will care. But try to shove stuff down your values down people throughts and you will have countless enemies. Haven't people learned at least this from the Irak debacle?
You confuse the term of "liberal" with "knowledgeable" and mix a buch of half facts to make your points in a rather hald-ass way. Yahoo! is a private company, they want to be able to sell or allow companies to distribute or sell stuff to French people, using a.fr site, in French, that is not legal in France. If you think that Nazi crap should be legal and promotes brotherly love, by all means, stay in the US, move to Montana, and go shave your head. But leave people with a tiny bit more understanding of things and less clear convinction and caricatural vision of the world alone.
Come on. Grow up. When is the last time you were in a real war? You have absolutely no idea how how much of a shitty time this was for Europe. Comments like these and atitudes like yours is what causes history to repeat itself. Europe went through a lot of gruesome wars, and had a terrible experience with colonialism. This pretty much explains why they (that is the people) currently cannot stomach much o fthe US foreign policies.
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The title of the article is misleading: the macbook was not hacked using its normal built-in wireless adapter and its Apple drivers. The video (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/vide o/2006/08/02/VI2006080201424.html) of the exploit *clearly* shows and explains that they are using an *external* third party wireless adapter which comes with its own wireless driver. This driver is the culpit and is succeptible to the exploit. The wireless adapter they demoes is widly used with PC laptop and the drivers on PC are similarly flawed. This demo was to show that device driver makers need to be a lot less careless and test their drivers a lot more. /" and see whether they could really do this.
One thing that is unclear in the demo is whether root access was gained. The demo shows creating, reading, and deleting files on the MacBook user's Desktop. I would have like them to do a "rm -rf
Think for a second... could it be that fear is also exactly what the nay-sayers are using to take the wind out of people trying to push public consciousness of environment and the damage we have been doing to it? The current administration, and a few others before, have been scaring the heck out of people telling them that they would loose their jobs, that US quality of life would be lowered, that they would no longer be free to do what they want, if tighter regulations were passed.
If you think that scientists could be biased solely to save their paycheck then you are sorely ignorant of science, scientific method, and the reason driving scientists to do science. Again, you likely have things backward... it is more likely that it is the rich US elite, owners of car manufacturing plants, power plants, industry in general, who are afraid of changing their ways because this would allow new, more nimble, more imaginative competitor to dislodge them form their current monopolistic positions.
should proof read have.. :-)
Just when I was going to give up and was thinking to myself: "screw it, humans are too dumb. I give up. If they are that stupid then we do not deserve to be around in a few 100 years"... someone posts a comment without FUD. Imagine that, a small % of the slashdot users do have a brain... sigh... this is all so depressing.
Independently if the movie itself, I would enourage anyone to read Jared Diamond's last book titled Collapse. It brings home the harsh reality of what is at stake here.
Yes, fixing the CO2 emission might or might not solve the problem. BUT, not fixing it is very likely to make the problem worse. So why no fix it? So that we do not lower our standard of living in the short term (i.e. lifetime of an administration... which is as far as the political process can see forward)? Even if one assumes that lowering human generated CO2 emission levels (and poplution as a whole) is actually bad for the economy in the long term (which is a ridiculus assumption if you think of it for one minute), the stakes are huge and can/will lead humanity to a very harsh, if not impossible, existance in a few years. Oh, but wait... now I remember... isn't there something call the Rapture that more that 50% of people in the US believe in? ok, back to being depressed... I give up. People are just too dumb.
Has anyone contemplated sueing F-Secure and other virus/malware/rootkit software checker company???
After all, these companies get money from people. These people expect a service in return: the detection of malware and viruses (virii?). If it is clear that F-Secure knew about it, how could they sit on their hands and do nothing? Just because it is Sony? Do they give the same leway to hackers in Russia?
I think that this demonstrates that you really cannot trust businesses to take care of users. They all seem to be in for themselves...
He is a "she" incidently... You show to be very well informed...
A related bill is being discussed in Congress to also change the start and end dates of seasons. While most law makers Global Warming is still believed to be an unproven theory, they propose to change move the beginning of Summer to March 1st and the End of Summer to October 31st, which making the other 3 seasons correspondly smaller.
This proposal aims at lessening the number of complains received from people complaining about how unreasonably hot the weather has become in the Spring and Fall seasons.
Because this cost includes the cost of the space shuttle flight. This is completely bogus because in the past shuttle cost did not come out of NASA's science budget. As was mentioned during the hearing, the 30 flights to the ISS will not be billed as 30 billion dollars to NASA, so why is suddendly a mission to HST being billed to NASA this way? This is accounting manbo-jumbo to make it less attractive to go fix HST. In fact, fixing HST is 500 millions dollars... If you are going to say that it is 1 billion, then the public should be told that the ISS really costs 30 billions!!!
"successfully protects the content from unauthorised copying" :-)
Cool! Does this mean that they managed to develop software that will determine whether I have pure thoughts when I try to copy the CD I bought in order to make a perfectly legal, fair use, copy of it ofr my own personal use?
Your watching commercials does NOT pay for the programsyou watch. The companies whose commercials are shown are the ones that are paying for the programming you see.
What I'd like to know is exactly what part of the 12x80. = $960.00/year I pay to get cable (the only way to get any channels where I live) pays for the programming... oh, that's right... almost none of it... it all goes to the cable companie, who pays something like $0.25/month/channel to the orginal producers. Well, guess what... don't expect me to feel imoral for not wanting to watch this in-your-face, dumb, lowest denominator commercials...
Time for the content creators to get with the times and find proper way to fund their programming. This commercial "tv tax" is an anachronism!
I tried using Safari 1.2 on OSX and have had no problems. No crashes, no hangs, no problems. Loaded the test a few dozen times.
Mac/OS X users CAN run Windows on their Powerpc's, using Virtual PC. Now, most people use Virtual PC as little as possible, because Windows apps are absolutely unusuable when compared to most OS X apps. Even Windows ports such as Office 2004 are painful to use on the Mac. This is more than simply the question of what OS is available for what platform. This is all about platform "culture" and what people's priorities are when they use their PCs. Mac users have been shown many times to be more task oriented and less tool/program driven as Windows users. Being able to run Windows on a Mac is not something most Mac users would care about, unless it is because they were given a brand new G5 and really did not want one to start with ( you could send it to me if you want...).
And why should people be penalized because some *reatard* cannot possibly sit two hours without having the urge to feel self-important and stand up and run out of the movie theater.
If you are too busy to watch a movie, stay home, or work, or wherever else you'd rather be.
Just having your phone on vibrate still means that you are one of the annoying people who stands up like an idiot, fumbling around and creating mayhem while other people are trying to get their money worth and trying to actually *watch* the movie, and not you, the standing clown making noise...
The original post propagates, once again, the "macs are slow" myth. Give me a break. I switched from PC a while back and have never looked back. My Mac(s) are great preformers, silent, reliable, come with a wonderful OS.
No, just a ripple... but a very nice one to ride on... :-)
I am not condonning pirating software BUT a lot of the software I buy comes with a non-refundable clause. I have several packages which looked ok when I demoed them but have since turned out to be incomplete or buggy.
It is all very good to on one hand expect your software to be pirated but then shareware authors should not screw honest people who buy their sofware and would like to return it.
People would be much more willing to shell out the few dollars required to register software if they did not feel that this was a monetary black hole which did not quaranty that the software will really be working as advertized, or as the users assumes it would.
Places like Wal-mart etc... have long learned that it is better to keep people happy then to stick it to them. Maybe software makers should start doing the same.
Will it run on my Mac? :-)
Oh wait... I don't care
And Americains would survive quite well if people could gamble online legally, or actually see a nipple on TV once in a while instead of just murders, violence, and gore.
Then again, maybe not, you are right, French people are not children and would fare much better than the Americains in this example. ooops.
Oh pleeeeeaaase! If you want to live in a country where religion is on every bill, where a Presidential candidate has to use the word God at least 5 times in a speech then just live here. Some people, such as the French as it turn out, were under the thumb or the Church and religion for a tad bit longer that the US. Following the (many) revolution(s) a secular society was borned. Churches were burned, Emperors and Kings guillotined, and a clear separation between Church and State was established. You might be well meaning when you point your well concerned fingers to France and its ban on head scarfs, but guess what: not everyone believe in a fairy tell that tried to explain why the world is the way it is. What we need in this country is freedom FROM religion and not freedom OF religion.
In any case, you are off topic. And look what you have done, yo manage to get me off topic too. Damn you! Evil! Evil!
I cannot beleive it... you actually posted something constructive. I lost count but this is like post #2 so far... We (well, maybe not me) are down by like 498 to 2. Keep up the good work. And do not feel bad when you are painted as being a "liberal" :-)
Yep. Or the US State Dept. and the French equivalent can meet and decide how they will deal with this. This is a trade issue, not a Free Speech issue. :-)
A bit like if French car makers sold cars to the US without emmission control and the US stopped them because it was against the law and France complained that this was against free speech or free trade. In the end, it would be a trade issue and if the US governement thought that it was a good deal they would swallow their pride and compromise. Not that I think that French cares are worth the effort, but I am trying to draw an analogy here
The true irony is that people recognize (truly in my personal opinion, but I do not get to vote in France and do not care if most people there disagree, it is their choice) laws like these abroad as dictatorship like laws but fail to see how bad things are right here.
It is so easy to have a dumb american knee jerk patriotic response in this type of situation, but it is not helpful.
If Yahoo.com can sell Nazi stuff to France, then surelly, buying music from allofmp3.com is ok then?
You have to choose what you want, conveniently select what passes as Free Speech, Free Market, Subsidies, etc.. and then ignore your own actions in the world. This is just too damn hypocritical.
It is not really about Free Speech, but about making money. Why is this so hard to understand? This is not about some guy writting a book criticizing the Vichi governemt during the war, or De Gaulle, or saying how great Hitler was. This is about a few people hidding behind free speech to make a buck by stumping on over people's values. This is just the modern incarnation of Imperialism. This country is too young, or too stupid and too mostly un-educated, to realize that this is a very dangerous thing to do and will lead to all kind of problems in the future.
Think about it, this is not the US government saying "gees, these French people are doing something very wrong" but a bunch of fat cats which cannot wait to make more money by exporting Yahoo! jobs to India.
You do not like France, you do not like that they are different, then do not go there, do not by their products, stay at home, and relish your sense of superiority. Trust me, nobody will care. But try to shove stuff down your values down people throughts and you will have countless enemies. Haven't people learned at least this from the Irak debacle?
You confuse the term of "liberal" with "knowledgeable" and mix a buch of half facts to make your points in a rather hald-ass way. .fr site, in French, that is not legal in France.
Yahoo! is a private company, they want to be able to sell or allow companies to distribute or sell stuff to French people, using a
If you think that Nazi crap should be legal and promotes brotherly love, by all means, stay in the US, move to Montana, and go shave your head. But leave people with a tiny bit more understanding of things and less clear convinction and caricatural vision of the world alone.
Come on. Grow up. When is the last time you were in a real war? You have absolutely no idea how how much of a shitty time this was for Europe. Comments like these and atitudes like yours is what causes history to repeat itself.
Europe went through a lot of gruesome wars, and had a terrible experience with colonialism. This pretty much explains why they (that is the people) currently cannot stomach much o fthe US foreign policies.