Little use having "open" SWF, when there is one ubiquitous player called Adobe Flash Player which defines the format, as in "an SWF is valid if it plays in Flash Player" as opposed to "an SWF is valid if it conforms to specification". Which is further supported by Adobe specifying that one can indeed develop SWF players, as long as these are "compatible" with whatever behavior the Flash Player exhibits towards these same SWF files.
But since Flash Player itself is not open source, there is a great amount of frustration in getting to know exactly what behavior constitutes the right one for a playing SWF.
No offense, but it insults me somewhat that you are offering me use javascript lint, after I have written about using it a post ago. Of course, one cannot expect Slashdot readers to read the entire conversation, I guess:-)
I don't think one needs to "spell-check" the syntax every time. One time will do it. A browser could/should JIT or cache the program bytecode anyway.
And you are proposing weird things:-) When I wrote spellcheck I meant something like a smarter syntax check. A pure syntax checker will not do because it is not smart enough to catch following errors
function f() {
var x = get_x();
calculate(z); }
In the above, should we assume that 'z' is intended a variable of an outer scope? Or maybe the programmer hit the wrong key just that once, and it should have been 'x' instead of 'z'? These kind of things in JavaScript, which usually produce errors at compiling stage, go unnoticed, and JavaScript lint for instance does not complain by default. Point is JavaScript is intended for quick programming hack-up jobs, like web scripting used to be like back in the days. With todays increasing usage of it in libraries and complex website interactions, it starts to be evident how it's dynamics impede its human operators.
I agree, although one thing that annoys me slightly is the lack of "spell checking" tools for JavaScript (and other ECMA-262 variations). In other words, dynamically typed objects make you occasionally spell property names wrong, and the runtime will not complain until you run the program, where a property are taken as simply some other one. Stuff like that.
JavaScript Lint implementations help a lot, but they specifically state so and do no checking of such object properties. Which is understandable for a dynamically typed language.
It's not just the properties, there are other ways one can mess up the code without the lint catching it. This is where ECMA-262 fails - extra debugging round everybody;-)
I still like it though. It's just like a useful tool for simple jobs.
Overpopulation is not a claimed fact, it is just a fact. Go outside and see for yourself. No need to get emotional, by the way. I can live and complain. The 5 births per death in the developing countries however is a fact. China is a noble exception, for all their mischief.
There is a good reason a home is called a home. As opposed to a marketplace. People like to actually live at home, not at the marketplace (shopaholics excluded.)
Internet used to be more of a home. Now it is become more of a marketplace. Everywhere you turn, there is some shmuck pitching and pushing his stuff onto you, and when you refuse he goes verbal.
The whole thing is rooted in overpopulation again. Too many people need to survive, and they colonize the Internet space, with their smallminded schemes.
Internet is not an industry. At most it's an infrastructure supporting industries. Is there some school in the woods that teaches those morons marketing speak?
Oh, no problem, folks. Let's just wait. We survived so far. What can go wrong? I mean, if it turns out climate change is a thread, we will deal with it at face value. Right?
...which often benefit from a fruitful relationship. That said, I would point out that in my experience programming and mathematics are two distinct disciplines, and neither requires the other. You really can be a professional programmer without knowing anything beyond the most basic arithmetics.
Programming is application of pure logic, the latter isolated from the all but basic mathematical concepts. Mathematics is application of logic in a specific manner which springs from simple arithmetics and has evolved into own world, not in the one of the most important "worlds" we have.
One important remark would be that programming is often APPLICATION of mathematics, which is one case where the two disciplines cannot, for a time being, be separated. In that case, one obviously needs a programmer who is also a good mathematician.
Also, obviously, given two programmers with equal programming skills, pick one with the better math skills over the other, if no other qualities affect the choice. It is like picking any other job candidate - you pick one with more qualifications, even if these apply only remotely to the field of work the company does. And since mathematics is a close cousin here, the choice should be obvious.
I completely agree with you. I don't think the craze will stop ever though. Part of the whole culture survives on the money, and money math unfortunately favors less work for more pay, i.e. using (leaky) abstractions that cut costs to get paid, even if the framework goes under later, it's not anybody's concern (except the client of course), because legally, the job was done. If you stretch this logic, you can see it is the same reason nobody codes in assembly for commercial production anymore - people always look for better tools. Sometimes though they find tools originally either made for something else (Flash) or the tools are so specialized, that even though they appear to fit perfectly for a particular kind of task, once the constraints or goals of this task change, it's a dead end for the tool user.
I have a contact that tries to make a generic website, using Wordpress for some reason. I have asked why Wordpress, a blogging CMS, but the person cannot give a good answer. They had used it before for blogs, came to like its ease of use, and came to think it should also fit fine for anything else than blogs, despite the fact that Wordpress goes pretty far to mark itself as a blogging CMS, nothing else. The human element fails? Needless to mention, the person is pulling his hair now, because they need completely different functionality than Wordpress includes or easily allows for. But it is a bit too late, because a month was spent to set up the Wordpress site...
It's not that simple. What other web developers do, in the end bites YOU in the ass. Either in form of your boss asking you one sunny day "So, have you had any chance to experiment with that new Joomla thing?", and as you go on in your head "Noooo, please, not THAT conversation again!", he continues "You know, we expect our developers to pick up on the popular new technologies." Bla bla bla.
The butterfly effect of the programming business. So, don't talk like, anyone can do whatever the hell they want with their 'puter. Frameworks sometimes negatively affect developers who have never heard of them, or never WANTED to, for all the good reasons. If it's not your boss telling you what to do, it also happens some client pulls you in for a job, and then you discover you are in for redesigning their Joomla/EZ/Wordpress/Asswork website. Something the client did not assume to mention, because they think all developers can develop anything using anything. Sort of like if architects were expected to design a functional house, sketching with crayons on ricepaper.
To paraphrase MadTV's Snoop Dogg video parody, "it's all about the blogz, baby, it's all about the blogz." I am ironic of course, but let's face it - the media paints this picture of Internet that is full of blogs.
Let's be clear about one disadvantage of a LED network - you can't download AND sleep at the same time, because people like to sleep with the lights off.
In the kind of world we live in (which "we make ourselves") it wouldn't surprise me if one had to pay per unit of bandwidth transferred by the router.:|
This is the most useful answer I have read on this whole discussion. It solves the asked question in the most acceptable manner (within the constraints defined in the question).
Indeed, old drives do not have onboard controllers, and so there is no logic to override.
However, I would say one perhaps would still need some sort of controller to actually write the data to the drive, and then we are back to the part of problem - can one override this particular controller behavior, throwing out error correction, data distribution algorithms, etc?
As much as I would agree with you on futility of chaining controllers (does not solve the problem in the question), I was referring to standalone controller cards which function in addition to whatever logic comes with the drive. These type of standalone controllers are very much produced today, e.g. by Adaptec:
No not trolling, I obviously thought he was referring to controller cards - those you insert into extension slots. Since hard drives have on-board controllers, no matter how you look at it, a controller card will have to be "chained" to it, since both are obviously present.
Modern drives come with their own on-drive controllers, as far as I know. Chaining another controller on top will not give you any power to override the on-drive controller behavior. If the on-drive controller makes its own decisions on where and how to write data, your custom controller will not be able to override these decisions, I am afraid.
So, after years upon years, GIMP has suddenly heeded the message of GIMPShop - That some features are simply good to have? I am talking about the monotone MDI background here, which does not distract people from editing their images as opposed to doing so with a desktop background and a dozen of icons behind.
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Little use having "open" SWF, when there is one ubiquitous player called Adobe Flash Player which defines the format, as in "an SWF is valid if it plays in Flash Player" as opposed to "an SWF is valid if it conforms to specification". Which is further supported by Adobe specifying that one can indeed develop SWF players, as long as these are "compatible" with whatever behavior the Flash Player exhibits towards these same SWF files.
But since Flash Player itself is not open source, there is a great amount of frustration in getting to know exactly what behavior constitutes the right one for a playing SWF.
Do you get it?
No offense, but it insults me somewhat that you are offering me use javascript lint, after I have written about using it a post ago. Of course, one cannot expect Slashdot readers to read the entire conversation, I guess :-)
I don't think one needs to "spell-check" the syntax every time. One time will do it. A browser could/should JIT or cache the program bytecode anyway.
And you are proposing weird things :-) When I wrote spellcheck I meant something like a smarter syntax check. A pure syntax checker will not do because it is not smart enough to catch following errors
function f()
{
var x = get_x();
calculate(z);
}
In the above, should we assume that 'z' is intended a variable of an outer scope? Or maybe the programmer hit the wrong key just that once, and it should have been 'x' instead of 'z'? These kind of things in JavaScript, which usually produce errors at compiling stage, go unnoticed, and JavaScript lint for instance does not complain by default. Point is JavaScript is intended for quick programming hack-up jobs, like web scripting used to be like back in the days. With todays increasing usage of it in libraries and complex website interactions, it starts to be evident how it's dynamics impede its human operators.
I agree, although one thing that annoys me slightly is the lack of "spell checking" tools for JavaScript (and other ECMA-262 variations). In other words, dynamically typed objects make you occasionally spell property names wrong, and the runtime will not complain until you run the program, where a property are taken as simply some other one. Stuff like that.
JavaScript Lint implementations help a lot, but they specifically state so and do no checking of such object properties. Which is understandable for a dynamically typed language.
It's not just the properties, there are other ways one can mess up the code without the lint catching it. This is where ECMA-262 fails - extra debugging round everybody ;-)
I still like it though. It's just like a useful tool for simple jobs.
Overpopulation is not a claimed fact, it is just a fact. Go outside and see for yourself. No need to get emotional, by the way. I can live and complain. The 5 births per death in the developing countries however is a fact. China is a noble exception, for all their mischief.
There is a good reason a home is called a home. As opposed to a marketplace. People like to actually live at home, not at the marketplace (shopaholics excluded.)
Internet used to be more of a home. Now it is become more of a marketplace. Everywhere you turn, there is some shmuck pitching and pushing his stuff onto you, and when you refuse he goes verbal.
The whole thing is rooted in overpopulation again. Too many people need to survive, and they colonize the Internet space, with their smallminded schemes.
Internet is not an industry. At most it's an infrastructure supporting industries. Is there some school in the woods that teaches those morons marketing speak?
I would say fighting global cooling is much better than fighting global warming.
threat! Not thread!
Oh, no problem, folks. Let's just wait. We survived so far. What can go wrong? I mean, if it turns out climate change is a thread, we will deal with it at face value. Right?
Join the Facebook page for Fluff Busting Purity (the script), that will show them:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/fluffbustingpurity?ref=mf
...which often benefit from a fruitful relationship. That said, I would point out that in my experience programming and mathematics are two distinct disciplines, and neither requires the other. You really can be a professional programmer without knowing anything beyond the most basic arithmetics.
Programming is application of pure logic, the latter isolated from the all but basic mathematical concepts. Mathematics is application of logic in a specific manner which springs from simple arithmetics and has evolved into own world, not in the one of the most important "worlds" we have.
One important remark would be that programming is often APPLICATION of mathematics, which is one case where the two disciplines cannot, for a time being, be separated. In that case, one obviously needs a programmer who is also a good mathematician.
Also, obviously, given two programmers with equal programming skills, pick one with the better math skills over the other, if no other qualities affect the choice. It is like picking any other job candidate - you pick one with more qualifications, even if these apply only remotely to the field of work the company does. And since mathematics is a close cousin here, the choice should be obvious.
Don't be fooled, people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#Disadvantages
I completely agree with you. I don't think the craze will stop ever though. Part of the whole culture survives on the money, and money math unfortunately favors less work for more pay, i.e. using (leaky) abstractions that cut costs to get paid, even if the framework goes under later, it's not anybody's concern (except the client of course), because legally, the job was done. If you stretch this logic, you can see it is the same reason nobody codes in assembly for commercial production anymore - people always look for better tools. Sometimes though they find tools originally either made for something else (Flash) or the tools are so specialized, that even though they appear to fit perfectly for a particular kind of task, once the constraints or goals of this task change, it's a dead end for the tool user.
I have a contact that tries to make a generic website, using Wordpress for some reason. I have asked why Wordpress, a blogging CMS, but the person cannot give a good answer. They had used it before for blogs, came to like its ease of use, and came to think it should also fit fine for anything else than blogs, despite the fact that Wordpress goes pretty far to mark itself as a blogging CMS, nothing else. The human element fails?
Needless to mention, the person is pulling his hair now, because they need completely different functionality than Wordpress includes or easily allows for. But it is a bit too late, because a month was spent to set up the Wordpress site...
It's not that simple. What other web developers do, in the end bites YOU in the ass. Either in form of your boss asking you one sunny day "So, have you had any chance to experiment with that new Joomla thing?", and as you go on in your head "Noooo, please, not THAT conversation again!", he continues "You know, we expect our developers to pick up on the popular new technologies." Bla bla bla.
The butterfly effect of the programming business. So, don't talk like, anyone can do whatever the hell they want with their 'puter. Frameworks sometimes negatively affect developers who have never heard of them, or never WANTED to, for all the good reasons. If it's not your boss telling you what to do, it also happens some client pulls you in for a job, and then you discover you are in for redesigning their Joomla/EZ/Wordpress/Asswork website. Something the client did not assume to mention, because they think all developers can develop anything using anything. Sort of like if architects were expected to design a functional house, sketching with crayons on ricepaper.
To paraphrase MadTV's Snoop Dogg video parody, "it's all about the blogz, baby, it's all about the blogz." I am ironic of course, but let's face it - the media paints this picture of Internet that is full of blogs.
Let's be clear about one disadvantage of a LED network - you can't download AND sleep at the same time, because people like to sleep with the lights off.
In the kind of world we live in (which "we make ourselves") it wouldn't surprise me if one had to pay per unit of bandwidth transferred by the router. :|
This is the most useful answer I have read on this whole discussion.
It solves the asked question in the most acceptable manner (within the constraints defined in the question).
Indeed, old drives do not have onboard controllers, and so there is no logic to override.
However, I would say one perhaps would still need some sort of controller to actually write the data to the drive, and then we are back to the part of problem - can one override this particular controller behavior, throwing out error correction, data distribution algorithms, etc?
As much as I would agree with you on futility of chaining controllers (does not solve the problem in the question), I was referring to standalone controller cards which function in addition to whatever logic comes with the drive. These type of standalone controllers are very much produced today, e.g. by Adaptec:
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/
No not trolling, I obviously thought he was referring to controller cards - those you insert into extension slots. Since hard drives have on-board controllers, no matter how you look at it, a controller card will have to be "chained" to it, since both are obviously present.
Right. Might work then. However, don't those on-drive controllers use very proprietary hardware interfaces?
Modern drives come with their own on-drive controllers, as far as I know. Chaining another controller on top will not give you any power to override the on-drive controller behavior. If the on-drive controller makes its own decisions on where and how to write data, your custom controller will not be able to override these decisions, I am afraid.
subj.
So, after years upon years, GIMP has suddenly heeded the message of GIMPShop - That some features are simply good to have? I am talking about the monotone MDI background here, which does not distract people from editing their images as opposed to doing so with a desktop background and a dozen of icons behind.