Will there be ANY demand for this, unless there is some RPG 5250/3270 VM I am unaware of?
Seriously though, anyone else work with some of the "green screeners" who are the ones that insist on the IBM Mainfr^H^H^H^HeServers?
There may be a market for the RS/6000, but I know of very few people that run or program for AS/400's, of S/390's who can even really use the Internet, much less be the market Linux "targets." These are the people that need to be convinced to use these new VM's.
I am wressling with some of these people issues right now, waking "green screeners" up to the fact that a Java Applet screen scraper does not make their RPG/Cobol an "internet app." They are scared to death of even learning html! I know for a fact only 1 of 7 can define what Linux is!
Anyway, IBM needs to spend some time changing the mindshare in some of these people, if they expect these eServers to fly off the shelve.
A couple posts are similar to this, but I take it one step farther.
The ability for a user to drag an graphical or textual digital representation of an object, using a pointing device, into a specified region of the screen. Once the item is in the specified area of the screen, a transaction occurs that is transparent to the user. This may include, but is not limited to tranactions such as processing an order for shipping usings billing and shipping information previously entered by the user. The transaction itself may occur at the time the item is "deposited", or at a later time or date.
Trademarks will include 1-drag, iDrag, DragQueen, and eDrag. (iDrag will only be available on Apple platforms, eDrag will only be available on IBM eServers.)
XFS and JFS allow an easy migration path to/from "mid-sized" iron to/from Linux. If you have a JFS volume from an RS/6000 you want to mount on Linux, you're out of luck with XFS, you need JFS. Same thing with XFS and SGI. This is a major migration issue in shops that have these boxes.
Also, there is the issue of IBM openly supporting, lets say XFS. While that might make good business sense, it would mean lots of bad PR and midshare loss.
The "market" will eventually make the winner(s) the defacto standard, but it never hurts to have direct support for other fs's you may need to interact with. I use support for the windows file systems all the time (fat32), but I would never dream of really using it as a main Linux volume....but it is always mounted.
I agree with Taco that E-Mail is not the best way to do this. For instance, imagine 1 million "messages" are send out:
Method 1: Some poor congressman gets his outlook inbox flooded.
Method 2: Mail truck pulls up out front, and hauls 1 million paper letters up to the poor congressman's office (this would take a few trips back to the truck...to say the least!)
Which method would infuence you more? If I were mp3.com, I would set up a paper mailing opperation, where consumers can write their messages online. Once a message is recieved, mp3.com would print out the letter and envelope, complete with the submitters home address, and mail it to the poor congressman (all at once...if done right..hehe.)
This would cost mp3.com maybe 1/2 million dollars, unless they can figure out some form of micropayment to pay for costs. 500 grand should be chump change for the ability to make a statement like that. Plus, how can you round up the news media to watch email being delivered. I bet if the letters were to be say, dumped in from of the congress, out of a dump truck, media would show up and report on the event, if alerted to it
beforehand, other congressmen would notice, etc, etc.
When I write my representitives, I do both, email, and snail mail. I send the email first, which includes something saying I am sending a snail mail as well, as it is said to carry more weight. This a) gets my message in front of them twice, and b) lets them think about giving more weight to email.
Sun is the only "Big Iron" UNIX company that is really threatened by Linux. Solaris is one of the big reasons that people keep buying Sun systems. If Linux takes over the "larger iron" world, Sun will have to compete mainly on hardware grounds. If I had the choice of an RS/6000, or a Sun Server, I would choose the Sun, because Solaris (in my opinion) is better than AIX, even though I think the RS/6000 has better hardware and support. If both IBM and Sun "officially" supportd Linux on their boxen, Sun would be forced to compete on hardware, and price grounds. This goes for Sun vs SGI as well, although I know very little about SGI hardware/support.
Sun has a lot to lose by the legitimizing of Linux. IBM, SGI, HP etc. all have a more even playing field again the guys who "put the dot in dot com", if the OS is not longer an issue. I suspect this has a lot more to do with it than the "not having energy to support more than one OS."
Sun has a lot to lose by having products that officially support Linux.
-Pete
Piracy in the physical world!
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Where as now it is easy to rip off a friends copy of say, Microsoft Office, people will now be able to pirate anything that they can lay their hands on the digital/physical print file for.
We could for instance, print out new Cue:Cats! Kinda puts a whole new meaning on the stealing of their IP.
The comments about the usage of Linux for the server has very little to do with the entire article. As a matter of fact, what you see quoted in summary is the whole discussion of the OS issue from the article. I was hoping for information on the topic.
I went there expecting to read about the OS server war, and was greated by text about the Mac gamers not wanting the software messed with. I have nothing against Mac gamers, I was one once myself. Frankly, I don't give a rats ass about 99% of what this article was really about, and would have appreciated a more balanced summary.
Slashdot should have done a better job with the commentary on this one, or at least added more about the "meat" of the article.
I think this qualifies as news for a gaming site...this is not really late breaking Linux, or techie news. The geeks at the compund may have forgotten the second part of their slogan on this one. (Stuff that matters.)
We just bought 1 160gig, and 4 240 gigs! Shoulda waited another month. Anyway, here is my 60 second review.
They work great for storing this that don't require harddrive access speed, such as images (in my case...and no, not pr0n), or mp3's. They have a 10/100baseT connection to the network, and can share using nfs, or smb.
Bad: No Raid-5. This means your are forced to have at the least 2 volumes, at the most 4. One large volume would be nice. Also, you can't do both nfs and smb on the same share..either one or the other.
On the other hand...these things run freebsd and are hackable (in the good meaning of the term.) When I couldn't get the admin java applet to load on my system (my browser is hosed) I was able to telnet into the sucker and change the IP using vi to edit the text files on the system. I am sure with a little work, these things could be made into some interesting devices. I was thinking Apache/PHP in my case. Would make a hell of a web server for my low usage/high storage situation.
For the situations I mentioned they are good for, I highly recomend them. The price per meg can't be beat, but I question how good they would be for a general purpose envirnment where users would access them directly. The freebsd w/ telnet access is a plus.
I run a site that works on a pay per search basis. (selling access to information.) Currently we bill clients on a monthly basis, but we are working on credit card access.
Of course, credit card customers will not want to type in all their information each time they do a search. One they check a "stop nagging me" check box, the validation step should be skipped.
This is in a way, one click shopping. I have not done much research into the amazon patent yet, but I know I will need to.
There is nothing "inventive" about this. It's more like people were just too paranoid to use it before, so it was never implemented. I can't believe nobody has come up with something that qualifies as prior art. It is just a cgi skipping a screen because a DB already has the info.
Arrg...anyone else been real pissed off at the US government recently?
This is way off topic...but as a geek, this has always bugged me.
Why not have some type of heat source to heat the driveway during the winter months. Wouldn't have to heat it up very much, and maybe have it on a switch.
No more snowblowing or shoveling. Just switch it on for 30 minutes and your driveway is clear.
Could be very similar to how some floors are heated from underneath.
If you read to the end of the article, it seems to talk more about "easy" software, like Wizards and the like, creating a legion of users who have no knowedge to do simple computer activities, like copy files.
I used to see it everyday, at my previous job. For instance, we had an excel guru, who many "tech" people in the company would go to for help when they needed to do a complex spreadsheet. This "guru" had a very difficult time with Novell NDS logins...just type in your password dumbass...and simple things like copying files, and understanding not to email 300MB files to remote laptop users (with modems.)
That, and his example of how people can manage files from within the application that creates them, but nothing else, are what really sum up his story.
Having worked in an envirnment supporting many non-computer literate users.
I agree fully with this article. Those of you talking about Linux/UNIX pervailing because of the ability to use both GUI, and CLI, are missing the point of the whole article.
This just in. Not only has the RIAA filed to make the PC a recording device, and collect royalties each one sold, but also on each newborn child.
It has come to their attention that humans have the ability to listen to content which they control, and manytimes hum or sing the lyrics. All without the content controllers permission.
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Mods: browse at 0. A Gore supporter slammed my prior anti Clinton/Gore post.
"... Neither a personal computer nor its hard disk constitutes "a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium. "
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Wtf!? I have a hard time believing the administration with the guy who invented the internet could say something like that!
Yes, it's primary purpose is not "a digital, or analog recording device." It is a multipurpose device unlike any other the world has ever seen.
That could be taken to mean many different things. Can we legally record music onto a PC, because it is not really a recording device? Can we freely distribute these..uhh..liknesses of music. I'd say recordings, but being...hmm...created on something that is not a recording device, I don't beleieve that vocabulary would be correct.
Someone needs to go up to Clinton and Gore (the holy internet creator), and whack them around with the clue stick until they turn blue.
I agree with their thoughts, but their justification falls so far from the clue train, it can't even see the station.
It is really interesting that the majority of Slashdot readers, including myself, are against this bill. You would think we would be for it since many of us work in the software industry, who "are the ones" pushing for laws like this.
I for one believe I am against it, but do not feel I have enough information about the law to write an "intelligent" letter.
I think it was already mentioned here, but some people could post some bullet points for issues to touch on (and moderators..mod them up!), you would be doing the slashdot community a great service.
Looks to me that the RIAA has figure out these lawsuits can be just as profitable as selling music!
The Music industry has found another "money for nothin" (and your chicks for free!) revenue stream! (Hmm, now 'll probably get sued for using that line...:-)
It is not clear which suit this is for. I know they have at least a couple suits going against thm right now, one of which I belive is completely bogus, but they will lose.
There is/was(?) one case again them for the myMP3.com "service", where cunsumers had to prove they owned the CD before they were given access to the music. The RIAA went ape-shit over them sending electronic version of CD's they owned in streaming form to consumers. The consumer had already proved they had possesion of the physical media!
Hope this article is not about that case.
Looks like it may be time to start some organized site to politically fight these media giants (RIAA/MPAA,etc.) I have already written my representitives. There has to be a way we can be heard as a group. I know many of you, like myself, are deeply concerned about these issues.
Synopsis:
A new Distributed Denial of Service tool, "Trinity v3", has been
discovered in the wild. There have been reports of up to 400 hosts running
the Trinity agent. In one Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel on the
Undernet network, there are 50 compromised hosts with Trinity running,
with new hosts appearing every day. It is not known how many different
versions of Trinity are in the wild.
The flooding commands have this format:
, where flood is the type of flood, password is the agent's
password, victim is the victim's IP address, and time is the length of
time to flood the agent, in seconds. The available flood types are the
following:
ping: Ping each client. The client will respond with "(trinity) someone
needs a miracle..."
size : Set the packet size for the flood, 0 for random.
port : Set which port to hit, 0 for random.
ver?: Get the agent's version. The agent X-Force is analyzing replies with
" trinity v3 by self (an idle mind is the devil's playground)"
I think it is sad that a country with so many social and financial problems keeps clinging to their cold war mindset.
Does russia really need nuclear subs nowadays? I would seem to think that money spent on their military program could maybe be better spent bringing the country back together.
Last I heard, Russia (of whatever the country is called today,) had problems even paying its soldiers. It is such a suprise they are having accidents with their nuclear subs, which testing new "state of the art" torpedos?
-Pete
I don't know how fast postgres really is. I am in the process of switching a few gig databases from MS SQL/IIS/php to Linux/PostgreSQL/php. Let's not get into an "internal war" over these benchmarks. To me, a "enterprise user", all that really matters is postgreSQL can compete with commercial systems for gig+ DB's.
Based on my requirements, and the need to have SQL 92 support (to port apps from larger systems, etc) mySQL and Postgres fall into different leagues. For sites that do not require the complex queries I do on a regular basis, mySQL is fine. That is what most Slashdot/php developers will ever need. I am having a hard enough time "betting the farm" to a free DB, that I know supports all the SQL I use.
There is a common mindset that benchmarks are biased, no matter who does them, or why. They are more to prove a product capable then to compare two products to one another.
Frankly, I'm impressed with how fast postgres can pull an 8k record out of a 1 gig table. It blows MS SQL server away for some things, while the boat rocks the other direction for "select DISTINCT field from table". (The same 148,000 record table.)
I liken the PostgreSQL benchmark to the Mindcraft study (The postgresql support company payed for the benchmarks.) While the actual performance figures of mySQL/postgresql many not be "fair", postgresql will fill a role for me a can't quite bring myself to use mysql for, and the next choice would be IBM DB2/Linux, which lacks good php support, and has much higher fees (to say the least!)
I hate mySQL users who have never used anything else saying "mySQL rul3z!", which I know will start to soon filter in (and down I hope) to this discussion.
This is not unlike how IT managers used to proclaim "we can't bet the farm on software which is free!" I remember that was one of the common things we would get from IT managers.
All the CFO like people I have worked with in large corporations can't even use their address book in email, much less have any real understanding about how software works, or what should be used.
This is one wall which linux will most likly bump up against for a little while, much like it did against the IT managers two years ago. Chances are linux will break through that wall once IT managers, who now are starting to accept it, go a step further and start to preach it to their highers ups.
Anyone who has worked in large business envirnments should not be suprised by the lack of knowledge this displays. Also, based on my experience with beancounters, it is not uncommon for them to see things as a completly black and white matter, which they claim to understand based on some "things they have heard," even if it _is_ from some "expert" on the subject, who probably can't use his own address book either.
They must have realized how many add impressions they could regain by putting out a linux version!
Personally, I prefer everybuddy, which offers some cool features my windows friends with the official AIM wish they had (like "Joe Schmoe" showing up rather than joeylooser3456.)
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Will there be ANY demand for this, unless there is some RPG 5250/3270 VM I am unaware of?
Seriously though, anyone else work with some of the "green screeners" who are the ones that insist on the IBM Mainfr^H^H^H^HeServers?
There may be a market for the RS/6000, but I know of very few people that run or program for AS/400's, of S/390's who can even really use the Internet, much less be the market Linux "targets." These are the people that need to be convinced to use these new VM's.
I am wressling with some of these people issues right now, waking "green screeners" up to the fact that a Java Applet screen scraper does not make their RPG/Cobol an "internet app." They are scared to death of even learning html! I know for a fact only 1 of 7 can define what Linux is!
Anyway, IBM needs to spend some time changing the mindshare in some of these people, if they expect these eServers to fly off the shelve.
-Pete
A couple posts are similar to this, but I take it one step farther.
The ability for a user to drag an graphical or textual digital representation of an object, using a pointing device, into a specified region of the screen. Once the item is in the specified area of the screen, a transaction occurs that is transparent to the user. This may include, but is not limited to tranactions such as processing an order for shipping usings billing and shipping information previously entered by the user. The transaction itself may occur at the time the item is "deposited", or at a later time or date.
Trademarks will include 1-drag, iDrag, DragQueen, and eDrag. (iDrag will only be available on Apple platforms, eDrag will only be available on IBM eServers.)
-Pete
XFS and JFS allow an easy migration path to/from "mid-sized" iron to/from Linux. If you have a JFS volume from an RS/6000 you want to mount on Linux, you're out of luck with XFS, you need JFS. Same thing with XFS and SGI. This is a major migration issue in shops that have these boxes.
Also, there is the issue of IBM openly supporting, lets say XFS. While that might make good business sense, it would mean lots of bad PR and midshare loss.
The "market" will eventually make the winner(s) the defacto standard, but it never hurts to have direct support for other fs's you may need to interact with. I use support for the windows file systems all the time (fat32), but I would never dream of really using it as a main Linux volume....but it is always mounted.
-Pete
I agree with Taco that E-Mail is not the best way to do this. For instance, imagine 1 million "messages" are send out:
Method 1: Some poor congressman gets his outlook inbox flooded.
Method 2: Mail truck pulls up out front, and hauls 1 million paper letters up to the poor congressman's office (this would take a few trips back to the truck...to say the least!)
Which method would infuence you more? If I were mp3.com, I would set up a paper mailing opperation, where consumers can write their messages online. Once a message is recieved, mp3.com would print out the letter and envelope, complete with the submitters home address, and mail it to the poor congressman (all at once...if done right..hehe.)
This would cost mp3.com maybe 1/2 million dollars, unless they can figure out some form of micropayment to pay for costs. 500 grand should be chump change for the ability to make a statement like that. Plus, how can you round up the news media to watch email being delivered. I bet if the letters were to be say, dumped in from of the congress, out of a dump truck, media would show up and report on the event, if alerted to it
beforehand, other congressmen would notice, etc, etc.
When I write my representitives, I do both, email, and snail mail. I send the email first, which includes something saying I am sending a snail mail as well, as it is said to carry more weight. This a) gets my message in front of them twice, and b) lets them think about giving more weight to email.
Just my 3 or 4 cents...
-Pete
Sun is the only "Big Iron" UNIX company that is really threatened by Linux. Solaris is one of the big reasons that people keep buying Sun systems. If Linux takes over the "larger iron" world, Sun will have to compete mainly on hardware grounds. If I had the choice of an RS/6000, or a Sun Server, I would choose the Sun, because Solaris (in my opinion) is better than AIX, even though I think the RS/6000 has better hardware and support. If both IBM and Sun "officially" supportd Linux on their boxen, Sun would be forced to compete on hardware, and price grounds. This goes for Sun vs SGI as well, although I know very little about SGI hardware/support.
Sun has a lot to lose by the legitimizing of Linux. IBM, SGI, HP etc. all have a more even playing field again the guys who "put the dot in dot com", if the OS is not longer an issue. I suspect this has a lot more to do with it than the "not having energy to support more than one OS."
Sun has a lot to lose by having products that officially support Linux.
-Pete
Where as now it is easy to rip off a friends copy of say, Microsoft Office, people will now be able to pirate anything that they can lay their hands on the digital/physical print file for.
We could for instance, print out new Cue:Cats! Kinda puts a whole new meaning on the stealing of their IP.
-Pete
The comments about the usage of Linux for the server has very little to do with the entire article. As a matter of fact, what you see quoted in summary is the whole discussion of the OS issue from the article. I was hoping for information on the topic.
I went there expecting to read about the OS server war, and was greated by text about the Mac gamers not wanting the software messed with. I have nothing against Mac gamers, I was one once myself. Frankly, I don't give a rats ass about 99% of what this article was really about, and would have appreciated a more balanced summary.
Slashdot should have done a better job with the commentary on this one, or at least added more about the "meat" of the article.
I think this qualifies as news for a gaming site...this is not really late breaking Linux, or techie news. The geeks at the compund may have forgotten the second part of their slogan on this one. (Stuff that matters.)
-Pete
I still can't stand how slow Mozilla runs on my dual-500!
Think it's about time they released a version with all that debugging code ripped out. The slow UI is a big turnoff.
-Pete
They are of course going to publish the encryption method so we can add SMDI into our current favorite music players (XMMS, etc.)...right? :-)
-Pete
We just bought 1 160gig, and 4 240 gigs! Shoulda waited another month. Anyway, here is my 60 second review.
They work great for storing this that don't require harddrive access speed, such as images (in my case...and no, not pr0n), or mp3's. They have a 10/100baseT connection to the network, and can share using nfs, or smb.
Bad: No Raid-5. This means your are forced to have at the least 2 volumes, at the most 4. One large volume would be nice. Also, you can't do both nfs and smb on the same share..either one or the other.
On the other hand...these things run freebsd and are hackable (in the good meaning of the term.) When I couldn't get the admin java applet to load on my system (my browser is hosed) I was able to telnet into the sucker and change the IP using vi to edit the text files on the system. I am sure with a little work, these things could be made into some interesting devices. I was thinking Apache/PHP in my case. Would make a hell of a web server for my low usage/high storage situation.
For the situations I mentioned they are good for, I highly recomend them. The price per meg can't be beat, but I question how good they would be for a general purpose envirnment where users would access them directly. The freebsd w/ telnet access is a plus.
-Pete
I run a site that works on a pay per search basis. (selling access to information.) Currently we bill clients on a monthly basis, but we are working on credit card access.
Of course, credit card customers will not want to type in all their information each time they do a search. One they check a "stop nagging me" check box, the validation step should be skipped.
This is in a way, one click shopping. I have not done much research into the amazon patent yet, but I know I will need to.
There is nothing "inventive" about this. It's more like people were just too paranoid to use it before, so it was never implemented. I can't believe nobody has come up with something that qualifies as prior art. It is just a cgi skipping a screen because a DB already has the info.
Arrg...anyone else been real pissed off at the US government recently?
-Pete
This is way off topic...but as a geek, this has always bugged me.
Why not have some type of heat source to heat the driveway during the winter months. Wouldn't have to heat it up very much, and maybe have it on a switch.
No more snowblowing or shoveling. Just switch it on for 30 minutes and your driveway is clear.
Could be very similar to how some floors are heated from underneath.
-Pete
If you read to the end of the article, it seems to talk more about "easy" software, like Wizards and the like, creating a legion of users who have no knowedge to do simple computer activities, like copy files.
I used to see it everyday, at my previous job. For instance, we had an excel guru, who many "tech" people in the company would go to for help when they needed to do a complex spreadsheet. This "guru" had a very difficult time with Novell NDS logins...just type in your password dumbass...and simple things like copying files, and understanding not to email 300MB files to remote laptop users (with modems.)
That, and his example of how people can manage files from within the application that creates them, but nothing else, are what really sum up his story.
Having worked in an envirnment supporting many non-computer literate users.
I agree fully with this article. Those of you talking about Linux/UNIX pervailing because of the ability to use both GUI, and CLI, are missing the point of the whole article.
-Pete
This just in. Not only has the RIAA filed to make the PC a recording device, and collect royalties each one sold, but also on each newborn child.
It has come to their attention that humans have the ability to listen to content which they control, and manytimes hum or sing the lyrics. All without the content controllers permission.
----
Mods: browse at 0. A Gore supporter slammed my prior anti Clinton/Gore post.
" ... Neither a personal computer nor its hard disk constitutes "a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium. "
------
Wtf!? I have a hard time believing the administration with the guy who invented the internet could say something like that!
Yes, it's primary purpose is not "a digital, or analog recording device." It is a multipurpose device unlike any other the world has ever seen.
That could be taken to mean many different things. Can we legally record music onto a PC, because it is not really a recording device? Can we freely distribute these..uhh..liknesses of music. I'd say recordings, but being...hmm...created on something that is not a recording device, I don't beleieve that vocabulary would be correct.
Someone needs to go up to Clinton and Gore (the holy internet creator), and whack them around with the clue stick until they turn blue.
I agree with their thoughts, but their justification falls so far from the clue train, it can't even see the station.
-Pete
It is really interesting that the majority of Slashdot readers, including myself, are against this bill. You would think we would be for it since many of us work in the software industry, who "are the ones" pushing for laws like this.
I for one believe I am against it, but do not feel I have enough information about the law to write an "intelligent" letter.
I think it was already mentioned here, but some people could post some bullet points for issues to touch on (and moderators..mod them up!), you would be doing the slashdot community a great service.
Thanks,
-Pete
Looks to me that the RIAA has figure out these lawsuits can be just as profitable as selling music!
:-)
The Music industry has found another "money for nothin" (and your chicks for free!) revenue stream! (Hmm, now 'll probably get sued for using that line...
-Pete
It is not clear which suit this is for. I know they have at least a couple suits going against thm right now, one of which I belive is completely bogus, but they will lose.
There is/was(?) one case again them for the myMP3.com "service", where cunsumers had to prove they owned the CD before they were given access to the music. The RIAA went ape-shit over them sending electronic version of CD's they owned in streaming form to consumers. The consumer had already proved they had possesion of the physical media!
Hope this article is not about that case.
Looks like it may be time to start some organized site to politically fight these media giants (RIAA/MPAA,etc.) I have already written my representitives. There has to be a way we can be heard as a group. I know many of you, like myself, are deeply concerned about these issues.
-Pete
There is a much better article at http://xforce.iss.net/alerts/advise59.php .
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Synopsis: A new Distributed Denial of Service tool, "Trinity v3", has been discovered in the wild. There have been reports of up to 400 hosts running the Trinity agent. In one Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel on the Undernet network, there are 50 compromised hosts with Trinity running, with new hosts appearing every day. It is not known how many different versions of Trinity are in the wild.
The flooding commands have this format: , where flood is the type of flood, password is the agent's password, victim is the victim's IP address, and time is the length of time to flood the agent, in seconds. The available flood types are the following:
tudp: "udpflood"
tfrag: "fragmentflood"
tsyn: "synflood"
trst: "rstflood"
trnd: "randomflagsflood"
tack: "ackflood"
testab: "establishflood"
tnull: "nullflood"
Other available commands include:
ping: Ping each client. The client will respond with "(trinity) someone
needs a miracle..." size : Set the packet size for the flood, 0 for random.
port : Set which port to hit, 0 for random.
ver?: Get the agent's version. The agent X-Force is analyzing replies with " trinity v3 by self (an idle mind is the devil's playground)"
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-Pete
The US allows companies such as Aol/TW, and doesn't allow De Beers to sell in the US. EU allows De Beers, but AOL/TW has too much power.
Go figure. I can't make heads or tails of what's gone on recently.
-Pete
I think it is sad that a country with so many social and financial problems keeps clinging to their cold war mindset. Does russia really need nuclear subs nowadays? I would seem to think that money spent on their military program could maybe be better spent bringing the country back together. Last I heard, Russia (of whatever the country is called today,) had problems even paying its soldiers. It is such a suprise they are having accidents with their nuclear subs, which testing new "state of the art" torpedos? -Pete
It is my understanding these benchmarkes are of an older version of PostgreSQL (I didn't see a version number.)
7.0X is supposed to having major performance increses over the older 6.x versions.
-Pete
I don't know how fast postgres really is. I am in the process of switching a few gig databases from MS SQL/IIS/php to Linux/PostgreSQL/php. Let's not get into an "internal war" over these benchmarks. To me, a "enterprise user", all that really matters is postgreSQL can compete with commercial systems for gig+ DB's.
Based on my requirements, and the need to have SQL 92 support (to port apps from larger systems, etc) mySQL and Postgres fall into different leagues. For sites that do not require the complex queries I do on a regular basis, mySQL is fine. That is what most Slashdot/php developers will ever need. I am having a hard enough time "betting the farm" to a free DB, that I know supports all the SQL I use.
There is a common mindset that benchmarks are biased, no matter who does them, or why. They are more to prove a product capable then to compare two products to one another.
Frankly, I'm impressed with how fast postgres can pull an 8k record out of a 1 gig table. It blows MS SQL server away for some things, while the boat rocks the other direction for "select DISTINCT field from table". (The same 148,000 record table.)
I liken the PostgreSQL benchmark to the Mindcraft study (The postgresql support company payed for the benchmarks.) While the actual performance figures of mySQL/postgresql many not be "fair", postgresql will fill a role for me a can't quite bring myself to use mysql for, and the next choice would be IBM DB2/Linux, which lacks good php support, and has much higher fees (to say the least!)
I hate mySQL users who have never used anything else saying "mySQL rul3z!", which I know will start to soon filter in (and down I hope) to this discussion.
-Pete
This is not unlike how IT managers used to proclaim "we can't bet the farm on software which is free!" I remember that was one of the common things we would get from IT managers.
All the CFO like people I have worked with in large corporations can't even use their address book in email, much less have any real understanding about how software works, or what should be used.
This is one wall which linux will most likly bump up against for a little while, much like it did against the IT managers two years ago. Chances are linux will break through that wall once IT managers, who now are starting to accept it, go a step further and start to preach it to their highers ups.
Anyone who has worked in large business envirnments should not be suprised by the lack of knowledge this displays. Also, based on my experience with beancounters, it is not uncommon for them to see things as a completly black and white matter, which they claim to understand based on some "things they have heard," even if it _is_ from some "expert" on the subject, who probably can't use his own address book either.
-Pete
They must have realized how many add impressions they could regain by putting out a linux version!
Personally, I prefer everybuddy, which offers some cool features my windows friends with the official AIM wish they had (like "Joe Schmoe" showing up rather than joeylooser3456.)
-Pete