As to giving management Stock Options I think that probably represents a screw-job for the non-management employees. When I see the "value added" from a lot of management and the "value given" against the real work of the company it is the creative worker, the producer (who often does not know that the management is getting so much or so much that is hidden) that is getting exploited and getting the screw-job. And when they fire people to make a management cost savings goal to get a bonus just to re-post a month later for the same position I get particularly pissed. Thats what happened to my wife and her job.
It may be time to level the playing field in those situations.
As to the dot com's there with all employees sharing it did include everyone in the enterprise and brought a smile to my face to see (my wifes previous job, but they ended the ESOP 6mo. after she joined).
So as a tool to include all the employees in the enterprise, these new rule will ruin that. But will fix another problem with management/executive compensation way out of line with value added.
This is good of course, and the Government with its current record deficits and the extreme cost of the war and the extreme cost of the "tax cuts" during a war, has little ability to fund such an effort without going further in debt.
Bush and co. do state that they want smaller less intrusive government and it is clear the tactic that they are using is to bankrupt the government so it can not do anything, or can only do it with great pain. It is a cynical approach and mean spirited. It lets them do what they want now (take the money and run) at the cost of our children and our childrens children, assuming we can survive him and this strategy and we dont have to declare international bankrupcy.
Your right why bother, it is GWBush and I have yet to see any redeeming qualities. I don't hate him. It is his actions and the difference between his sales pitch and the reality that has me very concerned for our country and our people and the people of the world. Its not GW its his effect that is of concern. Don't you think that is a better measurement to make?
The point is given our place in the world, being one of the largest richest economies, one that (previously) has fostered the cause of human rights and come strongly to the aid of other countries in need, and our government is the voice of the people (correct me if I am wrong here) and set up to deliver aid. An initial offer of $15M for relief was not only laughable but exposes the face of "compasionte conservatism" for what it really is, just filled with selective self interest, more interested in protection oil and our corporate profits than caring for our collective humanity. Shame on them. As one Senator or some offical said in the news. We spend that much before breakfast in Iraq. Our priorities are very wrong, and I feel the current government does not reflect the will of the people nor acts as our voice abroad.
That seems small, but remember these huge satelites are out at 2 * 10**5 miles or 1 * 10**9th feet aprox. and given the tonnage of the satelites, there would be a real measurable change in energy to make the correction.
Your centimeter change, is that a centimeter closer orbit to make that adjustment?
I would be interested to see your calculations.
One article I read said the change would be about 1/10,000 of a second / day which is on the order of 10**-5 which is certainly an upper bound for the effect. I await things settling down and a new reading on the actual new length of day being discovered. I guess leap seconds will become a much more common occurance.
I'm not sure what you point is. Obviously we had plenty of money and we were able to handle it ourselves, richly. These other countries are dirt poor and devastated. It is a comment our our government's take on our global vs domestic humanitarian responsibilities. The Floridians themselves had much more ability to recover on their own, many insured. Not so with these countries. Where is that "Compasionate Conservatism" we heard so much about. I guess after getting elected it is no longer needed.
They are sending some of the military fleet though. I guess that is appropriate as we have been pooring billions into them recently. I good alternative use to war and I am sure that sending part of the fleet will cost almost as much as the 35 Million offered as aid so far.
Yes but a catostrophic event like this may translate to a larger than planned orbital correction which would reduce the lifetime of the satalite. More likely a software correction would be made. I don't whether the handheld devices "know" where satalites are supose to be, or whether the satelite tells the devide where it is. I the former then orbit correction needed, the later, just prgramming change.
The Geosycnronous satelites have more of a task as they need to re-position to maintain station. Their lifetimes have just been shortened.
See my other post. Apparently it was a 600 mile long by 100 mile long chunk of crust that fell 30 feet closer to the center. The Island of Sumatra was moved 100 feet to the West (one tip anyway). We are talking of huge numbers and a measurable change in the earths rotation.
Sorry refered to 55 ft/day that is per/year but 4.63 ft month or about 1.8in/ day. So you have a month or two to move from next to ground zero to not be mistaken for a terroist bomb factory by a GPS weapon (if the GPS system is not updated).
There was the fact that the amount of money spent in Bush's Brother's state of Florida to clean up after the hurricanes was in the billions. Billions for much less damange, much less loss of life. And the first offer by the presient was $15 million until he was chided for being stingy. Don't let the facts get in your way. This is obviously tokenism and lets get by with as little as we can, its not our problem, problem.
Actually see me other post, it is a measurable change and from one estimate 1/10,000 of a second a very measurable change. My other post has the workups. We are talking about a 600 mile by 100 mile chunck of crust that sank 30 feet closer to the center of the Earth. Not small.
My other post: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134289 &threshold=0&commentsort=0&tid=14&mode=thread&cid= 11209331
(some useless registration required). I quote from the article. "Incredibly, the magnitude 9.0 earthquake that struck off Sumatra on Sunday morning caused a vertical displacement of so much material that the rotation period of the Earth has been permanently altered. By a tiny but measurable amount, the Earth is now rotating more quickly on its axis, and the 24-hour day is now one ten-thousandth second shorter.That's the result of calculations based on preliminary data made by Oak Park astronomer Dr. Leslie M. Golden. It's analogous to the increase in rotational speed that a twirling ice skater experiences when he or she draws in their arms. It is estimated that during the Sumatran quake, a block of material roughly 600 miles in length and 100 miles in width fell 30 feet closer to the Earth's axis of rotation. The planet has responded by rotating more rapidly, albeit ever so slightly, and our 24-hour days are now one ten-thousandth second shorter." by Tom Skilling.
If it is one ten-thousandth of a second then it works out to have more effect.
Doing the math for 1/10,000 of a sec/day:
so 10,000 days = 1 second
10000/365 = 27.39 years
So in 27.39 years we loose a second.
Diameter of earth 12,756 km or circumference 24,902 mi or 131,482,560 ft (appox at equator)
at the equator (old 24 hour day) or is what the eath turns in one second
or if there is change of 1521.79 feet of alignment in 27.39 years. or 55.56 feet / year. or:
55.56 (feet/yr) * 12 in/foot = 666.72in/yr(bad omen here)
or 666.72 (in/year) / 365 days (aprox) = 1.8 in/day difference.
55.56 (feet/year) / 12 months = 4.63 (ft/month)
This is a different estimate than Nasas but might be thought of as an upper bound until things can be calculated more precisely.
Satelite's orbits will not change their period because of the change in the earths rotational speed. Geosynchronous satalites will slip out of synchronisity and need to use fuel to change their orbits, reducing their effective life as we have no way of replenishing fuel in geosynchronous orbit (around 22k miles out I think).
This will be devistating for GPS and will require immediate upgrades/repossitioning to those systems.
Can you imagine a year from now a precision guided missle landing 55 feet to the left. and each day an additional 55 feet more. Frightning. I image the military has stopped using GPS guided weapons until that can be corrected.
Now if you correct those numbers for the Nasa estimate.
Its not a myth that if you produce something (through hard work). If someone else takes that hard workd and starts making a profit off your work, then you would naturally feel that that was theft of your work, and profit from something that was not theirs. This should be considered theft and the laws reflect that. The issue in this post thread is not about the copying of files as much as copying of programs which are a slightly different thing. Things that companies buy and use for their business. If someone else is selling your software and you don't get paid for that then that is theft. Song sharing is usually not used by business and should be viewed in a different light. There is some commonality in the issues. But here it may be the difference of Copyright vs Patent law, connected ideas but different laws in effect.
If we look at laws. Sometimes they are found to be bad or counter productive, or serving only one part of the community over another part and eventually they are struck down or changed. This will probably happen here as more and more of our children get criminal records (yes I believe it is a criminal offense) and their lives and livelyhoods are ruined just to serve the protection of the profits of Music and Movie producers.
Lets think long and hard about the actual cost of the DMCA and who is ultimately going to pay that cost, and for how long. Should a bright young adult be banned for life from a good job for sharing a song. Music lifts the spirit, this law will destroy lives. Balance the profits and the costs here. Lets bring some reality back to what we are really talking about.
If you can honestly say that you (as an caring loving intellegent adult, many assumptions on my part here) do not bend a bad law on occasion, along with so many other caring loving law abiding intellegent adults, then when you look down at your speedometer traveling with traffic and notice the speed around 70mph. Think of the young college kid who's life was ruined by this legislation and the law enforcements vigorous upholding of corporate profits.
Interesting point about the stereo. But then a place like Radio Shack makes a business of supplying parts from which you can make your own devices that "are" copies of someone elses. But then that is patent law and not copyright, but the same idea.
Too true. There are two types of situations here. One is if someone steals your I.P. and re-markets it as their own (Microsoft has been accused on occasion of this type). And this is the crime of plagerism and a violation certainly and should be prosecuted.
Another form is someone that gets ahold of some I.P. without paying for it. From a friend, say. If they would have spent money for it if they could not get it from a friend then you have lost some income but the effect of the indivuals use is much smaller than the above case. The DMCA's penalties make it a much larger effect from the prosecution standpoint and tips the scales making this kind of crime actually a viable income source for I.P. holder.
Do we see any examples of that. Lets see, Oh yes, companies that don't make a product but just hold I.P. rights, rights that they did not create but purchased and with DMCA, become very valuable properties indeed. Like SCO. Here is an example of not only someone holding property and squeezing for all its worth, but evidence that it is being used as a spoiler for Linux markets.
So there are arguments on both sides, large problems on both ends of the law. But I think we should have the laws protect the people more than the corporations. But after this last election I wonder if this country feels thats true anymore. Sigh. Whats freedom all about anyway
Interesting, the concept of ownership is a construct to begin with. Most of these things 100 years ago were in the public domain. Lately the copyright, which was originally designed to protect the creator of the work and for some limited time his/her family, has comodotized the I.P. so it can be bought and sold by an "owner" not the creator, which makes a marked that wants to protect its assets, but for the most part, assests it did not create. Fairly recent legislation extended that period to much longer than the lifetime and family lifetime of anyone (priciply to protect Disney and the Steamboat Willy image).
If you were the creator of the work, I can see your beef. If you bought the work, or though a contract agreement with say a band or a scientist working for you, were able to "own" the work then it is a pervesion of the original intent of the law or if you will a much used "side effect" of the law.
If someone copies your song, have you lost it. No. If someone copies your image, have you lost it. No. If someone copies your program, have you lost it, No. What you have lost is the posibility of making money off that song, image, program... And it is property that you only own for a period of time that the law allows you to make an exclusive profit off it. A personal monopoly if you will. But that passes into the public domain as it should.
I think we need to go back to the 35 years it used to be, and get back protecting peoples life and safety not corporate profits.
Really, busting young kids by the FBI (not in this case) as mega criminals. Our businesses are Scrooging is up a little too much this holiday season.
Angry here as well, but consider the trend. Copywright violations are now up to what "Under federal law, $750-$150,000 may be sought for each illegally shared item." so the penalty for each infringement of copyright is pretty sever (punishment fit the crime???).
If you look at legistation that allows a portion of the money's recovered from Drug Busts or busting Drug Dealers (confiscation and sale of properties).
Then all that would have to happen if the industry wanted to get the law enforcement on their side is give them a cut of the profits. I think this is a very bad idea, even in the drug case, because money strapped governments (of which there are more and more, and the conservative republican mood is get someone else to pay for it not me) have a tendency to up the arrests to fill in sagging budgets. You see it in many small towns when the end of month comes by and the Speeding Ticket quota has not been reached, the traps go up in ernest. There should never be direct economic benifit to arrest someone by the arresting officer. This is called conflict of interest. But as we see, that can and has been legistated as OK.
So if you can claim a value for the data on your personal computer, subtract from that number $150,000 for each copyrighted song, file or program on your hard drive and you will see. Under those circumstances you loose and loose big.
So the new terroism if you look at the DMCA and the directions of the laws is IP terroism.
Not so, The DCMA protects protection of content with the anti circumvention clause. So it is illegal to take your DVD which you purchased, which is hardware and disable the protection mechanism that prevents copying or prevents viewing from another region. The goal is to protect the moneys to be made from the content to protect from you ability to use it when they think you should not. Even though it is your DVD player. I would think the Denver boot laws that make it illegal to pull thier boot off your car shows precedence for that type of trap within a trap that they are not only capable of but promote activily.
So if they can show with a warrant that they legally can have their software installed on your machine, and they have anti-circumvention code in that code, then they would first go to the anti-virus and anti spyware manufactures and silently get them to make an exception for their virus. This they can do. There was legislation at one point, it may not still be in effect, that prevented airlines from showing what part of an airline ticket was taxes. Doctors in certain government programs or accept government money are constrainted from talking about family planning options (by law).
The FBI has a technology to tap into the internet and look for illegal activity. The regularly approach ISP's to get their hardware inline with the ISP's feed so they can monitor the Internet. Some ISP's have refused to comply because, even with a warrent for survelance of an individual the technology listens in on everyone. With the Patriot act, they may be able to have easier access to those kinds of feeds.
Don't think for a moment that the DCMA only protects content. It protects the money to be made on content and in the protects the protection of content.
You right you can wipe spyware off your machine only because the makers of that spyware aren't taking you to court for DMCA violation. In this instance the government would certainly take any tack that is deemed necesary if it wanted a convictions, and with a warrent and a legal right to be on your machine they probably would and could prosecute.
Given a good government lawyer, if they have protections installed in their copyrighted software, and they have it legally installed on your machine because they have a warrant to put it there. They may be able to get you on the DMCA circumvention clause, kind of like they make it illegal to remove a Denver Boot from your car. Its your car right? and you have every right to delete anything off it right? Wrong. They would craft the law or the approach to the law that would make it illegal for you to do that. Remeber Al Capone got caught on Income Tax evasion and Clinton got caught for lying not for any improper behavior.
"How does that stand legally? Just because they can get a warrant to install this software doesn't make it legal? They are by definition changing my property by installing it. It is a very rare case when it is legal for the police to forcefully enter a property. The same should go for computers."
if they follow the law and get a warrent then thier intrusion is by its very nature Legal. If you wanted to sue them for damages possibly, but not for intrusuion. The law and the warrant makes it legal.
As to giving management Stock Options I think that probably represents a screw-job for the non-management employees. When I see the "value added" from a lot of management and the "value given" against the real work of the company it is the creative worker, the producer (who often does not know that the management is getting so much or so much that is hidden) that is getting exploited and getting the screw-job. And when they fire people to make a management cost savings goal to get a bonus just to re-post a month later for the same position I get particularly pissed. Thats what happened to my wife and her job.
It may be time to level the playing field in those situations.
As to the dot com's there with all employees sharing it did include everyone in the enterprise and brought a smile to my face to see (my wifes previous job, but they ended the ESOP 6mo. after she joined).
So as a tool to include all the employees in the enterprise, these new rule will ruin that. But will fix another problem with management/executive compensation way out of line with value added.
This is good of course, and the Government with its current record deficits and the extreme cost of the war and the extreme cost of the "tax cuts" during a war, has little ability to fund such an effort without going further in debt.
Bush and co. do state that they want smaller less intrusive government and it is clear the tactic that they are using is to bankrupt the government so it can not do anything, or can only do it with great pain. It is a cynical approach and mean spirited. It lets them do what they want now (take the money and run) at the cost of our children and our childrens children, assuming we can survive him and this strategy and we dont have to declare international bankrupcy.
Your right why bother, it is GWBush and I have yet to see any redeeming qualities. I don't hate him. It is his actions and the difference between his sales pitch and the reality that has me very concerned for our country and our people and the people of the world. Its not GW its his effect that is of concern. Don't you think that is a better measurement to make?
You mean peace on eathquake dont you?
The point is given our place in the world, being one of the largest richest economies, one that (previously) has fostered the cause of human rights and come strongly to the aid of other countries in need, and our government is the voice of the people (correct me if I am wrong here) and set up to deliver aid. An initial offer of $15M for relief was not only laughable but exposes the face of "compasionte conservatism" for what it really is, just filled with selective self interest, more interested in protection oil and our corporate profits than caring for our collective humanity. Shame on them. As one Senator or some offical said in the news. We spend that much before breakfast in Iraq. Our priorities are very wrong, and I feel the current government does not reflect the will of the people nor acts as our voice abroad.
Or get everyone to move away from coastlines and fault zones. One Problem solved. (flood planes are next).
But who wants to wake up a little earlier every morning. I feel the loss already.
That seems small, but remember these huge satelites are out at 2 * 10**5 miles or 1 * 10**9th feet aprox. and given the tonnage of the satelites, there would be a real measurable change in energy to make the correction.
Your centimeter change, is that a centimeter closer orbit to make that adjustment?
I would be interested to see your calculations.
One article I read said the change would be about 1/10,000 of a second / day which is on the order of 10**-5 which is certainly an upper bound for the effect. I await things settling down and a new reading on the actual new length of day being discovered. I guess leap seconds will become a much more common occurance.
I'm not sure what you point is. Obviously we had plenty of money and we were able to handle it ourselves, richly. These other countries are dirt poor and devastated. It is a comment our our government's take on our global vs domestic humanitarian responsibilities. The Floridians themselves had much more ability to recover on their own, many insured. Not so with these countries. Where is that "Compasionate Conservatism" we heard so much about. I guess after getting elected it is no longer needed.
They are sending some of the military fleet though. I guess that is appropriate as we have been pooring billions into them recently. I good alternative use to war and I am sure that sending part of the fleet will cost almost as much as the 35 Million offered as aid so far.
Yes but a catostrophic event like this may translate to a larger than planned orbital correction which would reduce the lifetime of the satalite. More likely a software correction would be made. I don't whether the handheld devices "know" where satalites are supose to be, or whether the satelite tells the devide where it is. I the former then orbit correction needed, the later, just prgramming change.
The Geosycnronous satelites have more of a task as they need to re-position to maintain station. Their lifetimes have just been shortened.
I would hope so. I would hope they do that update soon as we undoubtedly are starting to slip.
See my other post. Apparently it was a 600 mile long by 100 mile long chunk of crust that fell 30 feet closer to the center. The Island of Sumatra was moved 100 feet to the West (one tip anyway). We are talking of huge numbers and a measurable change in the earths rotation.
Sorry refered to 55 ft/day that is per/year but 4.63 ft month or about 1.8in/ day. So you have a month or two to move from next to ground zero to not be mistaken for a terroist bomb factory by a GPS weapon (if the GPS system is not updated).
There was the fact that the amount of money spent in Bush's Brother's state of Florida to clean up after the hurricanes was in the billions. Billions for much less damange, much less loss of life. And the first offer by the presient was $15 million until he was chided for being stingy. Don't let the facts get in your way. This is obviously tokenism and lets get by with as little as we can, its not our problem, problem.
Actually see me other post, it is a measurable change and from one estimate 1/10,000 of a second a very measurable change. My other post has the workups. We are talking about a 600 mile by 100 mile chunck of crust that sank 30 feet closer to the center of the Earth. Not small.
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My other post: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=13428
Another estimate for the time change here.
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/day
/day difference.
/year) / 12 months = 4.63 (ft/month)
.1829 ft * 12 inches = 2.195 in/year
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-04
(some useless registration required). I quote from the article.
"Incredibly, the magnitude 9.0 earthquake that struck off Sumatra on Sunday morning caused a vertical displacement of so much material that the rotation period of the Earth has been permanently altered. By a tiny but measurable amount, the Earth is now rotating more quickly on its axis, and the 24-hour day is now one ten-thousandth second shorter.That's the result of calculations based on preliminary data made by Oak Park astronomer Dr. Leslie M. Golden. It's analogous to the increase in rotational speed that a twirling ice skater experiences when he or she draws in their arms. It is estimated that during the Sumatran quake, a block of material roughly 600 miles in length and 100 miles in width fell 30 feet closer to the Earth's axis of rotation. The planet has responded by rotating more rapidly, albeit ever so slightly, and our 24-hour days are now one ten-thousandth second shorter." by Tom Skilling.
If it is one ten-thousandth of a second then it works out to have more effect.
Doing the math for 1/10,000 of a sec/day:
so 10,000 days = 1 second
10000/365 = 27.39 years
So in 27.39 years we loose a second.
Diameter of earth 12,756 km or circumference 24,902 mi or 131,482,560 ft (appox at equator)
One second of the day means a radial distance of
24hr * 60 min *60 sec = 86400 seconds
131,482,560 (feet / day) / 86400 (sec/day) = 1521.79 feet/sec
at the equator (old 24 hour day)
or is what the eath turns in one second
or if there is change of 1521.79 feet of alignment in 27.39 years. or 55.56 feet / year.
or:
55.56 (feet/yr) * 12 in/foot = 666.72in/yr(bad omen here)
or 666.72 (in/year) / 365 days (aprox) = 1.8 in
55.56 (feet
This is a different estimate than Nasas but might be thought of as an upper bound until things
can be calculated more precisely.
Satelite's orbits will not change their period because of the change in the earths rotational speed. Geosynchronous satalites will slip out of synchronisity and need to use fuel to change their orbits, reducing their effective life as we have no way of replenishing fuel in geosynchronous orbit (around 22k miles out I think).
This will be devistating for GPS and will require immediate upgrades/repossitioning to those systems.
Can you imagine a year from now a precision guided missle landing 55 feet to the left. and each day
an additional 55 feet more. Frightning. I image the military has stopped using GPS guided weapons
until that can be corrected.
Now if you correct those numbers for the Nasa estimate.
3/100,000 instead of 1/10,000 then the
or 3,000,000 days to get one second then.
or 8219 years
1521.79 (ft/sec) / 8319 (years/sec) =.1829 (ft/year)
much less of an adjustment or a threat to satelite's positions or positioning satelites.
(check the math, who knows if I did it right)
Just an intellectual exercise to assess the effect. Enjoy
Its not a myth that if you produce something (through hard work). If someone else takes that hard workd and starts making a profit off your work, then you would naturally feel that that was theft of your work, and profit from something that was not theirs. This should be considered theft and the laws reflect that. The issue in this post thread is not about the copying of files as much as copying of programs which are a slightly different thing. Things that companies buy and use for their business. If someone else is selling your software and you don't get paid for that then that is theft. Song sharing is usually not used by business and should be viewed in a different light. There is some commonality in the issues. But here it may be the difference of Copyright vs Patent law, connected ideas but different laws in effect.
If we look at laws. Sometimes they are found to be bad or counter productive, or serving only one part of the community over another part and eventually they are struck down or changed. This will probably happen here as more and more of our children get criminal records (yes I believe it is a criminal offense) and their lives and livelyhoods are ruined just to serve the protection of the profits of Music and Movie producers.
Lets think long and hard about the actual cost of the DMCA and who is ultimately going to pay that cost, and for how long. Should a bright young adult be banned for life from a good job for sharing a song. Music lifts the spirit, this law will destroy lives. Balance the profits and the costs here. Lets bring some reality back to what we are really talking about.
If you can honestly say that you (as an caring loving intellegent adult, many assumptions on my part here) do not bend a bad law on occasion, along with so many other caring loving law abiding intellegent adults, then when you look down at your speedometer traveling with traffic and notice the speed around 70mph. Think of the young college kid who's life was ruined by this legislation and the law enforcements vigorous upholding of corporate profits.
Interesting point about the stereo. But then a place like Radio Shack makes a business of supplying parts from which you can make your own devices that "are" copies of someone elses. But then that is patent law and not copyright, but the same idea.
Too true. There are two types of situations here. One is if someone steals your I.P. and re-markets it as their own (Microsoft has been accused on occasion of this type). And this is the crime of plagerism and a violation certainly and should be prosecuted.
Another form is someone that gets ahold of some I.P. without paying for it. From a friend, say. If they would have spent money for it if they could not get it from a friend then you have lost some income but the effect of the indivuals use is much smaller than the above case. The DMCA's penalties make it a much larger effect from the prosecution standpoint and tips the scales making this kind of crime actually a viable income source for I.P. holder.
Do we see any examples of that. Lets see, Oh yes, companies that don't make a product but just hold I.P. rights, rights that they did not create but purchased and with DMCA, become very valuable properties indeed. Like SCO. Here is an example of not only someone holding property and squeezing for all its worth, but evidence that it is being used as a spoiler for Linux markets.
So there are arguments on both sides, large problems on both ends of the law. But I think we should have the laws protect the people more than the corporations. But after this last election I wonder if this country feels thats true anymore. Sigh. Whats freedom all about anyway
Interesting, the concept of ownership is a construct to begin with. Most of these things 100 years ago were in the public domain. Lately the copyright, which was originally designed to protect the creator of the work and for some limited time his/her family, has comodotized the I.P. so it can be bought and sold by an "owner" not the creator, which makes a marked that wants to protect its assets, but for the most part, assests it did not create. Fairly recent legislation extended that period to much longer than the lifetime and family lifetime of anyone (priciply to protect Disney and the Steamboat Willy image).
If you were the creator of the work, I can see your beef. If you bought the work, or though a contract agreement with say a band or a scientist working for you, were able to "own" the work then it is a pervesion of the original intent of the law or if you will a much used "side effect" of the law.
If someone copies your song, have you lost it. No. If someone copies your image, have you lost it. No. If someone copies your program, have you lost it, No. What you have lost is the posibility of making money off that song, image, program... And it is property that you only own for a period of time that the law allows you to make an exclusive profit off it. A personal monopoly if you will. But that passes into the public domain as it should.
I think we need to go back to the 35 years it used to be, and get back protecting peoples life and safety not corporate profits.
Really, busting young kids by the FBI (not in this case) as mega criminals. Our businesses are Scrooging is up a little too much this holiday season.
Angry here as well, but consider the trend. Copywright violations are now up to what "Under federal law, $750-$150,000 may be sought for each illegally shared item." so the penalty for each infringement of copyright is pretty sever (punishment fit the crime???).
If you look at legistation that allows a portion of the money's recovered from Drug Busts or busting Drug Dealers (confiscation and sale of properties).
Then all that would have to happen if the industry wanted to get the law enforcement on their side is give them a cut of the profits. I think this is a very bad idea, even in the drug case, because money strapped governments (of which there are more and more, and the conservative republican mood is get someone else to pay for it not me) have a tendency to up the arrests to fill in sagging budgets. You see it in many small towns when the end of month comes by and the Speeding Ticket quota has not been reached, the traps go up in ernest. There should never be direct economic benifit to arrest someone by the arresting officer. This is called conflict of interest. But as we see, that can and has been legistated as OK.
So if you can claim a value for the data on your personal computer, subtract from that number $150,000 for each copyrighted song, file or program on your hard drive and you will see. Under those circumstances you loose and loose big.
So the new terroism if you look at the DMCA and the directions of the laws is IP terroism.
Not so, The DCMA protects protection of content with the anti circumvention clause. So it is illegal to take your DVD which you purchased, which is hardware and disable the protection mechanism that prevents copying or prevents viewing from another region. The goal is to protect the moneys to be made from the content to protect from you ability to use it when they think you should not. Even though it is your DVD player. I would think the Denver boot laws that make it illegal to pull thier boot off your car shows precedence for that type of trap within a trap that they are not only capable of but promote activily.
So if they can show with a warrant that they legally can have their software installed on your machine, and they have anti-circumvention code in that code, then they would first go to the anti-virus and anti spyware manufactures and silently get them to make an exception for their virus. This they can do. There was legislation at one point, it may not still be in effect, that prevented airlines from showing what part of an airline ticket was taxes. Doctors in certain government programs or accept government money are constrainted from talking about family planning options (by law).
The FBI has a technology to tap into the internet and look for illegal activity. The regularly approach ISP's to get their hardware inline with the ISP's feed so they can monitor the Internet. Some ISP's have refused to comply because, even with a warrent for survelance of an individual the technology listens in on everyone. With the Patriot act, they may be able to have easier access to those kinds of feeds.
Don't think for a moment that the DCMA only protects content. It protects the money to be made on content and in the protects the protection of content.
You right you can wipe spyware off your machine only because the makers of that spyware aren't taking you to court for DMCA violation. In this instance the government would certainly take any tack that is deemed necesary if it wanted a convictions, and with a warrent and a legal right to be on your machine they probably would and could prosecute.
Given a good government lawyer, if they have protections installed in their copyrighted software, and they have it legally installed on your machine because they have a warrant to put it there. They may be able to get you on the DMCA circumvention clause, kind of like they make it illegal to remove a Denver Boot from your car. Its your car right? and you have every right to delete anything off it right? Wrong. They would craft the law or the approach to the law that would make it illegal for you to do that. Remeber Al Capone got caught on Income Tax evasion and Clinton got caught for lying not for any improper behavior.
I think you miss some fine points here.
"How does that stand legally? Just because they can get a warrant to install this software doesn't make it legal? They are by definition changing my property by installing it. It is a very rare case when it is legal for the police to forcefully enter a property. The same should go for computers."
if they follow the law and get a warrent then thier intrusion is by its very nature Legal. If you wanted to sue them for damages possibly, but not for intrusuion. The law and the warrant makes it legal.
In the US all they have to do is copyright the spyware's protection mechanisms and then under the DMCA it would be illegal to circumvent that spyware.