I'll also add that I don't think broadcast TV is going to go anywhere anytime soon.
So they keep saying. First they cut us back from 83 to 69 channels. Then 69 downto 51. Now the FCC wants to cut it further to about 25 channels, and really expect us to believe we will still have the same number of Networks/Movies/etc that we've currently have?
Not buying it. Something has to be lost, simply due to lack of space. Most likely it will be all those cool subchannels like Megahertz, International Link, This Movie channel, RetroTV, Qubo, and so on.
Because you're free service is restricting what other services (free or pay) are available for the rest of us.
False. You have plenty of wireless cellphones and internet, AND wired internet. In fact the amount of over-the-air spectrum assigned to cellular usage is about triple what Free TV uses, so if anybody is being greedy/demanding - it's the cell companies.
Disagree. "Government" is actually leaders who are hungry for power & wealth... mostly power. They are a danger to the people, as has been proved again and again throughout history, even in Democracies. (The Athenian Democracy executed Socrates because he exercised his free speech and taught philosophy to people.) (The Roman Democratic Republic executed its own citizens, mostly christians and jews.)
Government is not the People. Government is power--hungry leaders that are a clear-and-present danger to the people. ~150 million people were killed by their OWN governments during the 1900s (deliberately - aka genocide). That's more than any other entity, even corporations, have deliberately killed.
It is why we have a Constitution - to chain the government/leaders and limit how much damage they can cause.
If you had a CM4228 antenna you'd get all kinds of channels. I know I get channels 60 miles away. I would be annoyed if I was trying to watch one of those, and some kid turns on his Whitespace-capable Ipad directly over top of my channel, because it "detected" the channel is free (even though it isn't really).
Actually that number jumped to 20% this past year (since the analog shutoff), because of the poor economy and people quitting their cable TV for the Free TV alternative
Can't you get dialup from somebody else like Netscape ISP or NetZero or Juno? The first company charges me just $7/month and the latter two are free (upto ten hours).
And the slowest EU states are slower than the US. And their overall average? A virtual tie at 10 and a half Mbit/s according to speedtest.net - US == EU
But you're the kind of person linking to Teabagger.....
Ooops. I didn't realize I was talking to a 12 year old. Let's leave the personal insults in the playground shall we? Oh and stop insulting my gay friends as well. They are not "teabaggers". They are adult human beings having loving relationships with their partners. They deserve RESPECT not insults just like any other American.
BTW might want to actually watch the video sometime. It shows CLINTON'S EMPLOYEE creating a housing bubble by requiring banks to give loans to poor people who cannot afford to pay them back. That is the root cause of the bubble and subsequent crash 9 years later. It's on the record.
Some libertarians are anti-corporation too. They fear centralization of power either in government or quasi-governments (large corporations) as dangerous to individuals.
Some libertarians are also pro-life/anti-abortion, although they are a distinct minority in the LP.
You are correct but it's the same difference really. Just as my 386SX laptop is still a 386, just minus some data lines. Or a 486SX4 is 486 but clocked three times faster. It's the same basic CPU, and yes Commodore owned the company (MOS) that made the 650x, 850x, and 65816. They basically got their PET, VIC20, C64, C128, Plus/4 and other computer CPUs for free (at cost).
Most places are Duopolies. Cable or Phone internet. It's like choosing between the Democrat or Republican duopoly - it makes no difference and there's no real choice.
You get a cable company offering, a crap DSL offering,
Japan is the world's second fastest country (over 10 Mbit/s average), and everyone is wired with this "crap DSL" of which you speak. Some have upgraded to Fiber, but DSL is the dominant techology.
there's absolutely no reason why San Francisco, LA, Chicago, NYC, shouldn't have the same high speeds as entire countries like Japan, Korea, etc.
Nobody is that fast because..... well it's Japan and they love technology*. But the top US States (WA, CA, MA, CT, NY, NJ, DE, MD) are just as fast the top EU states.
So the US is essentially tied with the EU.
* * Most Japanese connections are actually hi-speed DSL. About a decade ago the government paid to upgrade everyone's phone lines to DSL capability. That's why Japan has over 10 Mbit/s average. I wish the US government would do the same, or at least require phone companies to do it using their own funds. Universal DSL for everyone.
according to this (which I admit I don't know how accurate it is) it seems to indicate that the US is still pretty low in terms of overall connection speed.
Lying with statistics. According to speedtest:
1 Russian Federation 2 United States / European Union (a virtual tie) 3 Canada 4 Australia 5 Brazil 6 Mexico 7 China
The Famicom was released in 1983 so we're talking about 27 year old technology! Its contemporaries were the Intellivision, Colecovision, Atari 5200 SuperSystem, Apple IIc/e, and C=64.
I would have modded this +1 Informative myself. Or interesting. Or insightful. Definitely not "troll" Mr. Moderator.
MOS was owned by Commodore. i.e. Same company. In fact one reason Commodore VIC-20 and 64 was so much cheaper than the competition was because they charged Atari, Apple, et cetera thrice the price that Commodore charged itself, so they could sell computers at only $150 each. Atari/Apple couldn't even get close.
I'm not aware of any vintage calculators, anywhere, that used an 8008 or 6502 processor and ran on a 9 volt battery
Here's one. (holds up glowing LED calc with 9 volt battery). Says it was made in 1977. No sure what's inside of it, but I assume it's some kind of central processor. After all they had CPUs in other gadgets of the time (Atari console and Apple, Commodore computers).
That's because the English and American languages have diverged.
No it's because Webster made a conscious decision to eliminate illogical British spelling from his dictionary. No u in "colour" and replace s with z for "zzz" sounds. Plus "meter" not the french "metre" (which was actually one of Webster's sons that made that change).
Webster became the defacto standard and so while 1700s Americans used British spelling, 1800s and 1900s Americans used Webster's spelling.
- Equivalent to sending 60 million Bluray Discs to every home in Boston, every single month. - And another 60 million Blurays to every home in New York City, every single month. - And another 60 million to every home in Philadelphia, every single month. - And another 60 million to every home in Baltimore, every single month...
times all 200 television markets. All at Zero cost to the consumers. If you have 2 or 3 TVs/DVRs then double or triple the above numbers.
Maybe in your market you get less free stuff. Oh well.
And what do I gain? A $2000 a year wireless phone or internet bill. Yay. You are failing to sell me why shrinking the TV Band to 25 channels is something I should support.
I live in the middle of te northeast city called the Northeast Megalopolis (i.e. along I95).
You're right. I could get my TV through the wires but the cost is over $1000 per year (CATV) or $2000 (wireless internet). And I'm not poor. But why should I have to pay that much money when an antenna gets me 95% of the same shows free of charge. Why do ye insist upon killing an excellent service that costs us consumers nothing to access?
How elitist of you to judge what people should or should not be allowed to watch. Also neither of those shows are even on Free broadcast TV. So what you're really criticizing is Pay TV, and supporting my point why people shouldn't have to pay for television.
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I'll also add that I don't think broadcast TV is going to go anywhere anytime soon.
So they keep saying. First they cut us back from 83 to 69 channels. Then 69 downto 51. Now the FCC wants to cut it further to about 25 channels, and really expect us to believe we will still have the same number of Networks/Movies/etc that we've currently have?
Not buying it. Something has to be lost, simply due to lack of space. Most likely it will be all those cool subchannels like Megahertz, International Link, This Movie channel, RetroTV, Qubo, and so on.
Because you're free service is restricting what other services (free or pay) are available for the rest of us.
False. You have plenty of wireless cellphones and internet, AND wired internet. In fact the amount of over-the-air spectrum assigned to cellular usage is about triple what Free TV uses, so if anybody is being greedy/demanding - it's the cell companies.
GOVERNMENT IS THE PEOPLE
Disagree. "Government" is actually leaders who are hungry for power & wealth... mostly power. They are a danger to the people, as has been proved again and again throughout history, even in Democracies. (The Athenian Democracy executed Socrates because he exercised his free speech and taught philosophy to people.) (The Roman Democratic Republic executed its own citizens, mostly christians and jews.)
Government is not the People. Government is power--hungry leaders that are a clear-and-present danger to the people. ~150 million people were killed by their OWN governments during the 1900s (deliberately - aka genocide). That's more than any other entity, even corporations, have deliberately killed.
It is why we have a Constitution - to chain the government/leaders and limit how much damage they can cause.
If you had a CM4228 antenna you'd get all kinds of channels. I know I get channels 60 miles away. I would be annoyed if I was trying to watch one of those, and some kid turns on his Whitespace-capable Ipad directly over top of my channel, because it "detected" the channel is free (even though it isn't really).
698-806MHz range has already been assigned to Cellphone companies plus Emergency Digital Radio. It's already gone
Actually that number jumped to 20% this past year (since the analog shutoff), because of the poor economy and people quitting their cable TV for the Free TV alternative
Can't you get dialup from somebody else like Netscape ISP or NetZero or Juno? The first company charges me just $7/month and the latter two are free (upto ten hours).
And the slowest EU states are slower than the US. And their overall average? A virtual tie at 10 and a half Mbit/s according to speedtest.net - US == EU
But you're the kind of person linking to Teabagger.....
Ooops. I didn't realize I was talking to a 12 year old. Let's leave the personal insults in the playground shall we? Oh and stop insulting my gay friends as well. They are not "teabaggers". They are adult human beings having loving relationships with their partners. They deserve RESPECT not insults just like any other American.
BTW might want to actually watch the video sometime. It shows CLINTON'S EMPLOYEE creating a housing bubble by requiring banks to give loans to poor people who cannot afford to pay them back. That is the root cause of the bubble and subsequent crash 9 years later. It's on the record.
Some libertarians are anti-corporation too. They fear centralization of power either in government or quasi-governments (large corporations) as dangerous to individuals.
Some libertarians are also pro-life/anti-abortion, although they are a distinct minority in the LP.
For what it's worth: Most polls show Americans want smaller government (i.e. the libertarian stance). Don't know what Canadians think.
For me seeing 20-25,000 sucked from my paycheck every year is what made me decide I really don't need government, other than for police functions.
The 2600 uses a 6507, not a 6502
You are correct but it's the same difference really. Just as my 386SX laptop is still a 386, just minus some data lines. Or a 486SX4 is 486 but clocked three times faster. It's the same basic CPU, and yes Commodore owned the company (MOS) that made the 650x, 850x, and 65816. They basically got their PET, VIC20, C64, C128, Plus/4 and other computer CPUs for free (at cost).
Most places are Duopolies. Cable or Phone internet. It's like choosing between the Democrat or Republican duopoly - it makes no difference and there's no real choice.
You get a cable company offering, a crap DSL offering,
Japan is the world's second fastest country (over 10 Mbit/s average), and everyone is wired with this "crap DSL" of which you speak. Some have upgraded to Fiber, but DSL is the dominant techology.
there's absolutely no reason why San Francisco, LA, Chicago, NYC, shouldn't have the same high speeds as entire countries like Japan, Korea, etc.
Nobody is that fast because..... well it's Japan and they love technology*. But the top US States (WA, CA, MA, CT, NY, NJ, DE, MD) are just as fast the top EU states.
So the US is essentially tied with the EU.
*
* Most Japanese connections are actually hi-speed DSL. About a decade ago the government paid to upgrade everyone's phone lines to DSL capability. That's why Japan has over 10 Mbit/s average. I wish the US government would do the same, or at least require phone companies to do it using their own funds. Universal DSL for everyone.
according to this (which I admit I don't know how accurate it is) it seems to indicate that the US is still pretty low in terms of overall connection speed.
Lying with statistics. According to speedtest:
1 Russian Federation
2 United States / European Union (a virtual tie)
3 Canada
4 Australia
5 Brazil
6 Mexico
7 China
Chattanooga's $58 for 30 Mbit/s is not bad.
Comcast where I live is not that cheap.
Neither is Verizon
The Famicom was released in 1983 so we're talking about 27 year old technology! Its contemporaries were the Intellivision, Colecovision, Atari 5200 SuperSystem, Apple IIc/e, and C=64.
I would have modded this +1 Informative myself.
Or interesting. Or insightful. Definitely not "troll" Mr. Moderator.
Commodore had nothing to do with the 6502
MOS was owned by Commodore. i.e. Same company. In fact one reason Commodore VIC-20 and 64 was so much cheaper than the competition was because they charged Atari, Apple, et cetera thrice the price that Commodore charged itself, so they could sell computers at only $150 each. Atari/Apple couldn't even get close.
I'm not aware of any vintage calculators, anywhere, that used an 8008 or 6502 processor and ran on a 9 volt battery
Here's one. (holds up glowing LED calc with 9 volt battery). Says it was made in 1977. No sure what's inside of it, but I assume it's some kind of central processor. After all they had CPUs in other gadgets of the time (Atari console and Apple, Commodore computers).
That's because the English and American languages have diverged.
No it's because Webster made a conscious decision to eliminate illogical British spelling from his dictionary. No u in "colour" and replace s with z for "zzz" sounds. Plus "meter" not the french "metre" (which was actually one of Webster's sons that made that change).
Webster became the defacto standard and so while 1700s Americans used British spelling, 1800s and 1900s Americans used Webster's spelling.
Free TV is:
- Equivalent to sending 60 million Bluray Discs to every home in Boston, every single month.
- And another 60 million Blurays to every home in New York City, every single month.
- And another 60 million to every home in Philadelphia, every single month.
- And another 60 million to every home in Baltimore, every single month...
times all 200 television markets. All at Zero cost to the consumers. If you have 2 or 3 TVs/DVRs then double or triple the above numbers.
Maybe in your market you get less free stuff. Oh well.
And what do I gain? A $2000 a year wireless phone or internet bill. Yay. You are failing to sell me why shrinking the TV Band to 25 channels is something I should support.
I live in the middle of te northeast city called the Northeast Megalopolis (i.e. along I95).
You're right. I could get my TV through the wires but the cost is over $1000 per year (CATV) or $2000 (wireless internet). And I'm not poor. But why should I have to pay that much money when an antenna gets me 95% of the same shows free of charge. Why do ye insist upon killing an excellent service that costs us consumers nothing to access?
How elitist of you to judge what people should or should not be allowed to watch. Also neither of those shows are even on Free broadcast TV. So what you're really criticizing is Pay TV, and supporting my point why people shouldn't have to pay for television.
they are using the FREQUENCY BETWEEN CHANNELS; for example, between 12 and 13
(sigh) I give up. NO THERE IS NO SPACE BETWEEN 12 AND 13. Jesus christ on a popsicle stick