If I was trolling, I'd have ignored the content of the posts and just spouted random fanboy love for OSS. I was asking a question, and expecting help/answers.
I guess I should have remembered that/. attracts both the extra-intelligent and the extra-ignorant. (I'm not sure which category I fall into, either;)
But if you insist... gentoo is still better than ubuntu.
OSS is about providing choice, and OO.o is excellent value for 'free'. Being free (or open) does not make it better than being proprietary or costly - it simply makes the initial cost much smaller.
It is almost like getting a free razor, but having to buy blades - if the blades are expensive (or it is more costly to use the 'free' alternative), then why use it?
I've used OO.o on my linux box because I do most of my major word processing on my macbook/pc/whatever is closer, and I use microsoft products on both. IMHO, I'd rather pay for something that works well, rather than use a performance poor alternative.
I think that the majority of people who trumpet OSS/Free software for commercial application are being penny-wise and pound foolish. The extra startup costs of buying proprietary (but professionally supported) software far outweigh the benefits of 'free' software.
It isn't really 'free' if you spend more time trying to get it to work (or waiting for it to work, or dealing with frustration) than a solution which costs more initially, but runs without minimal issues.
(Yes yes, I get it. You love linux, thanks for sharing. Can you stick to the topic at hand and stop whoring your favorite OS. Besides, Ubuntu? c'mon, be a man and use gentoo)
So, if I understand your thinly veiled criticism of MS (and apple, and any other vendor which uses proprietory lock-in), OO.o is better because it uses open standards?
Well, thats one good point. I honestly appreciate your effort in actually answering my question.
I'm sure someone will say "Don't support MS" - sure, good argument - but I'm I'm looking for reasons to leave office07 Did you read the article? How about my comment?
How is this marked as insightful?
He/She might be an insightful individual, but this comment is more trolling than (and completely irrelevant to) my original question!
Is this the only value that OO.o has? That it *ISNT* MS office? I'd say that is a poor reason to switch. Free = good reason to start using it, however.
Or if my computer came with a copy of windows, and I got an educational copy of office from my school and have full access to ms tech support, it isn't worth the trouble?
The original post wasn't meant to troll for comments - but it appears that it has - does anyone have any COMPELLING reasons to switch? Because I havn't seen any advantage in switching, and I have no problems switching to a superior (for my needs) product.
Wow! Earth Shattering News! at least warn people that you didn't RTFA. It says this exactly at the bottom of the first (only) page. Thanks for coming out;)
Well, since I've got office 2007 already, why would I switch?
I've use openoffice before, and it is good because it is free and has all the functionality I need, but so does wordpad (it does!) and I've already got a copy of office 2007.
The major benefit I see is the competition - competition is always good for the consumer - but considering the widespread use (and support) of ms office, I don't really see ANY compelling reasons to switch. I'm sure someone will say "Don't support MS" - sure, good argument - but I'm I'm looking for reasons to leave office07 - I've already got it installed, and don't have problems with it.
I guess the real question is "How does this make me more productive?"
Eh, so I got the names wrong. I still got the numbers right, and my point was correct. at least one of the other posters bothered to consider my point - all the rest sound like they're just karma whoring;)
I hear that COBOL is a pretty good language to learn. It isn't new, but it is old enough to make a comeback (like disco, aviator glasses and big hair)...
Doesn't it look odd, how the 1.5 seconds between safari and firefox is the same size as the 2 seconds between IE and Opera? And how the 1.0 second between firefox and opera is MUCH smaller than both?
If apple can't get the graphs to be 'correct', how do we know that the browser speed test is any good?
It is a good thing other people test these things;)
I was going to say it in the main post, but I figured It'd get modded for flamebait if I did, when I actually had a real point. So I separated them, and look - one of them got modded up, the other got hit with flamebait;)
Well, I guess the iPhone will die a slow death, the same as the PSP (wait a minute, people are still developing for the PSP... maybe the iphone won't die?).
"DUDE... have you ever seen a molecule on WEED? Totally different... its all... stringy" motions a bunch of other scientists over to look in the microscope "Duuude... why're we staring into a bong?"
A solution to world hunger. And war. And obesity. I guess that means my three picks would be
a. GM plants that make money grow on trees.
b. GM microbes that make violent impotent. IN whatever way is most effective.
c. GM Animals that hunt and chase fat people.
Well, it ISN'T skynet - the authors made an AI character that they could talk with - that wouldn't mind if they totally geek out on WOW topics or file system discussions;)
Well, isn't this a surprise. The USA (and US media) is pointing fingers at an outside force for causing internal problems. Sure, it probably happens (that people in china attack american networks)... but people all over the world do the same. Why target china? well... the US economy is in trouble, and china is economically booming.
Then again, both Hillary and Obama have said they'd renegotiate NAFTA if elected (and basically blaming canada and mexico for their problems) - which is already skewed in the favor of america - to fix their domestic problems.
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If I was trolling, I'd have ignored the content of the posts and just spouted random fanboy love for OSS. I was asking a question, and expecting help/answers.
/. attracts both the extra-intelligent and the extra-ignorant. (I'm not sure which category I fall into, either ;)
I guess I should have remembered that
But if you insist... gentoo is still better than ubuntu.
OSS is about providing choice, and OO.o is excellent value for 'free'. Being free (or open) does not make it better than being proprietary or costly - it simply makes the initial cost much smaller.
It is almost like getting a free razor, but having to buy blades - if the blades are expensive (or it is more costly to use the 'free' alternative), then why use it?
I've used OO.o on my linux box because I do most of my major word processing on my macbook/pc/whatever is closer, and I use microsoft products on both. IMHO, I'd rather pay for something that works well, rather than use a performance poor alternative.
I think that the majority of people who trumpet OSS/Free software for commercial application are being penny-wise and pound foolish. The extra startup costs of buying proprietary (but professionally supported) software far outweigh the benefits of 'free' software.
It isn't really 'free' if you spend more time trying to get it to work (or waiting for it to work, or dealing with frustration) than a solution which costs more initially, but runs without minimal issues.
So, what is the advantage of OO.o - not linux?
(Yes yes, I get it. You love linux, thanks for sharing. Can you stick to the topic at hand and stop whoring your favorite OS. Besides, Ubuntu? c'mon, be a man and use gentoo)
So, if I understand your thinly veiled criticism of MS (and apple, and any other vendor which uses proprietory lock-in), OO.o is better because it uses open standards?
Well, thats one good point. I honestly appreciate your effort in actually answering my question.
How is this marked as insightful?
He/She might be an insightful individual, but this comment is more trolling than (and completely irrelevant to) my original question!
Is this the only value that OO.o has? That it *ISNT* MS office? I'd say that is a poor reason to switch.
Free = good reason to start using it, however.
Or if my computer came with a copy of windows, and I got an educational copy of office from my school and have full access to ms tech support, it isn't worth the trouble?
The original post wasn't meant to troll for comments - but it appears that it has - does anyone have any COMPELLING reasons to switch? Because I havn't seen any advantage in switching, and I have no problems switching to a superior (for my needs) product.
Wow! Earth Shattering News! at least warn people that you didn't RTFA. It says this exactly at the bottom of the first (only) page. Thanks for coming out ;)
Why would the change it? I thought everything looks pretty on a mac - irregardless of functionality - thats how apple sells products, isn't it?
;)
Functionality AFTER Aestetics!
Just look at the mac-air. It sure is pretty
Well, since I've got office 2007 already, why would I switch?
I've use openoffice before, and it is good because it is free and has all the functionality I need, but so does wordpad (it does!) and I've already got a copy of office 2007.
The major benefit I see is the competition - competition is always good for the consumer - but considering the widespread use (and support) of ms office, I don't really see ANY compelling reasons to switch. I'm sure someone will say "Don't support MS" - sure, good argument - but I'm I'm looking for reasons to leave office07 - I've already got it installed, and don't have problems with it.
I guess the real question is "How does this make me more productive?"
Eh, so I got the names wrong. I still got the numbers right, and my point was correct. at least one of the other posters bothered to consider my point - all the rest sound like they're just karma whoring ;)
... if only that secure platform was more customizable and less fruity.
I hear that COBOL is a pretty good language to learn. It isn't new, but it is old enough to make a comeback (like disco, aviator glasses and big hair)...
Well, once the DRM is stripped, this'll make for much faster TV ups on piratebay ...
Has anyone looked at the stats on apples site? http://www.apple.com/safari/
;)
Doesn't it look odd, how the 1.5 seconds between safari and firefox is the same size as the 2 seconds between IE and Opera? And how the 1.0 second between firefox and opera is MUCH smaller than both?
If apple can't get the graphs to be 'correct', how do we know that the browser speed test is any good?
It is a good thing other people test these things
I was going to say it in the main post, but I figured It'd get modded for flamebait if I did, when I actually had a real point. So I separated them, and look - one of them got modded up, the other got hit with flamebait ;)
Oh wait, It WILL die, but not until apple says so (go planned obsolescence, I choose you!)
Well, I guess the iPhone will die a slow death, the same as the PSP (wait a minute, people are still developing for the PSP ... maybe the iphone won't die?).
Can I get a T - Triple - Eights with fries? Super size it!
"DUDE ... have you ever seen a molecule on WEED? Totally different ... its all ... stringy"
motions a bunch of other scientists over to look in the microscope
"Duuude... why're we staring into a bong?"
A solution to world hunger. And war. And obesity. I guess that means my three picks would be
a. GM plants that make money grow on trees.
b. GM microbes that make violent impotent. IN whatever way is most effective.
c. GM Animals that hunt and chase fat people.
no no, racists aren't human and would have trouble proving that they are :)
Well, it ISN'T skynet - the authors made an AI character that they could talk with - that wouldn't mind if they totally geek out on WOW topics or file system discussions ;)
well... one of us will win
Well, isn't this a surprise. The USA (and US media) is pointing fingers at an outside force for causing internal problems. Sure, it probably happens (that people in china attack american networks) ... but people all over the world do the same. Why target china? well... the US economy is in trouble, and china is economically booming.
Then again, both Hillary and Obama have said they'd renegotiate NAFTA if elected (and basically blaming canada and mexico for their problems) - which is already skewed in the favor of america - to fix their domestic problems.