i don't see any problem with how i'm doing. I'm making a good deal of cash at 21. I've got a nice car, a nice place, and i'm certainly not wanting for any of the basic necessities of life except maybe a few more Playstation 2 games and legal marijuana (although that is almost a certainty in the next 10 years).
Bottom line - if this is what "shitty" democracy gets me, then hooray for shitty democracy.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
they have a very interesting article about this as well. apparently the plant that they're getting rid of is not necessarily going to be completely outsourced. at the worst, it appears that 3dfx would pick a single company to manufacture the boards for them.
right now, the only fact we have is that 3dfx is selling it's facility in Juarez, Mexico. - who's to say what that will lead to.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i almost feel bad for you guys sometimes...i mean, is that the strongest argument you have for the existance of god? If there is a god - he's going to be pretty pissed off, come judgement day, that you guys didn't have anything better to say than some philosophical babble about how we can't actually prove that something DOESN'T exist.
going back to an earlier argument i made. Prove to me that 10,000 foot invisible lizard people didn't create the universe. Oh...you can't prove that they didn't???? Well then, they must exist. (if my invizible lizard-god argument is insane...then prove it to me without poking holes in your own crackpot theory on "god").
sorry theists, but the burden of proof lies with you guys...and every argument i've ever heard is just fucking weak.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i'm open minded - but if you want me to believe in something, you damn well better bring some facts to back your point up. EVERY argument i've had about the existance of god has come down to something on the order of:
"dude, you just gotta have faith"
sorry, but that's basically saying that, in order to find proof that god exists, i first have to believe that he exists...
WTF?!?! You want me to believe in god...it's really simple - GIVE ME PROOF HE/SHE/IT EXISTS!!!!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Hey fluxrad, its easy to poke holes in someone elses belief system, why don't you tell me what you believe in so I can tear it to shit and
make fun of you?
simple. i believe in nothing. my life has no value, neither does yours. neither does anyone else's. We are a cosmic fluke. There may be others like us, on some other planet (in fact, i'm pretty sure there are. read: statistical probability).
why are we here? i have no idea - i figure somewhere a long time ago, life just happened. no rhyme, no reason - i've never seen any indication that there is a rhyme or reason.
what happens when we die? we're worm food. our bodies cease to function and we are buried. decomposers (worms, fungus, etc.) eat us and take what's left of the energy stored in our bodies. other organisms, higher up on the food chain, eat them...and thusly, the cycle of life continues...perhaps, in that sense, we are all canibals.
but in the end, it makes no difference. we are here for nothing.
if you ask me about morality, why it exists, i will give you this justification: if humans have a single evolutionary purpose, it is to see that that evolution continues unabated. Species continue to survive because they find it in their interests to survive. Otherwise, homo oftheweekticus would have died out hundreds of thousands of years ago - and no one would have cared. So - we have evolved with a genetic will to survive. In that instance - it is in our own best interests to set "rules" to ensure our survival.
i only have morals insofar as they serve either my own interests, or the interests of the species. No killing: this decreases the human population...that is bad for humans in general.
Don't be a dick to your fellow humans. this just comes down to the fact that i don't want to be treated poorly (i.e. being beaten up, mugged, etc.) - so i'll treat others in the manner that i wish to be treated. if we all abided by this rule, we'd all get along pretty well.
that pretty much sums up my belief system - there are others...but these are the big'uns.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
History's greatest thinkers have all seen the Truth that the Bible contains - Newton, St Augustine, even Galileo - but people like you think you know better, that science has "proven" that there is no God
Most of history's greatest thinkers believed there was a god because they were raised to believe there was a god. In their time, belief in god was not only common, it was assumed (BTW - Augustine is a REALLY bad example as he was himself a man of the cloth, so there's a general conflict of interest). I, too, believed there was a god for quite a number of years before waking up one day and realizing that i had absolutely no proof whatsoever (not even circumstantial evidence) that there was a god.
FYI - a number of history's greatest thinkers also believed that there was no god. Sagan was a perfect example.
So the question becomes - what undeniable truth do you have to offer the world that a god does, in fact, exist? Surely it can't be the arguments brought to bear by Aquinas or Augustine - these arguments are easily refuted by even the simplest musings of someone like Hume. (yes, athiests can read - and do quite frequently).
The fact of the matter is - you can offer no proof whatsoever. I should know, i've looked. And furthermore, it does not fall upon science to disprove the existance of god. It falls upon believers to PROVE the existance of such a deity. If I were to convey my belief about a race of 10,000 foot tall lizard-people who created the universe, and still roam the earth (although they are invisible) - you would call me crazy.
my question: can you prove they don't exist?
no? then by following your logic - they MUST exist.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
hrm. i'm not sure where in that post i belittled those who have faith. But frankly, i do think most believers have the emotional IQ of a rock, however.
BTW - i DO belittle most christians. As do i belittle most people who have been "abducted by aliens" and those who believe in the tooth fairy. same principle applies.
one other thing: tell you benevolent god that i want my fucking dog back!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
if the thread digresses, you can't mod someone down for being fucking off-topic. you think the dicaprio reference had anything to do with Linus' baby in the first place????????
these are the same moderators that think people who say shit you can't make sense of are "deep"
mod this one down too. i got karma to burn.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Pete Posthletwait(sp) was the only good aspect of that whole fsckin' movie.
A)Shakespeare was meant for the stage. end of conversation
B)Dicaprio and Daines couldn't act their way out of a wet paper bag.
PS - R&J was one of the worst shakespearian plays ever. It's too bad no one realizes this because they never bothered to read/see plays like MacBeth, Lear, or Much Ado...
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Her Dad is Linus. This means she's likely to have better than average intelligence and, quite probably, excellent coding skills
nope. modern genetics shows that most intelligence is actually given to the child by the mother. that's why you NEVER EVER EVER EVER marry a stupid woman. (all us guys are idiots anyway).
about looks: the attractiveness of the parents will be inversly proportional to the ugliness of the baby. Brad and Jennifer's baby is gonna be FUGLY!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I expect that nothing much will be different in 10 years... MS (and the other commercial software houses) will still be raking in the money, and open source software will still be little more than the hobbyist's playground.
yes....thank god for hobby programs like Apache, Sendmail, and MySQL.
know what you're talking about before you spout. open-source is the backbone of tech. closed-source just gets the press.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
where did i say that M$ would make office 11 subscription only???? you can talk all the trash you want to me, i don't mind, but when you misquote me, you only give your "foes" more ammo. But i'm banking that when Office 11 comes out M$ will make users pay for the privilege of the upgrade. My evidence: precident. When you buy win95, you get free upgrades (serivce packs, if you'll grant me the liberty), but Win98 is still gonna cost you a butt load of money. Same with any M$ product. You want to take M$ at face value, that's fine...but i've seen them pull some pretty sneaky shit and i'll believe it when i see it, untill then....i'll just base my judgements on what microsoft has been known to do time and time again. If you think they're basing this new pricing scheme on a "hey, we should really do more for the customers" then you don't know business.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
because what the other guy is doing has a direct effect on us.
half of open-source software (or closed source *nix software for that matter) is just trying to emulate windows software. As i'm sure you know, projects like WINE have a VERY hard time with this because windows has so many bugs they actually have to emulate some of them to make apps work properly.
hooray for the kludge.
btw - i use windows at home for 1 thing. counter-strike. were it not for this game, there is no way in HELL i'd have windows on my box.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
1)Yes, the "subscription" will be cheaper at first, but can you honestly believe M$ is gonna try to migrate to this if it doesn't put more money in their coffers in the long run? (BTW - when office 11 comes out, M$ will say "we said free updates, we didn't say a whole new version")....no, i don't see why anyone would have a problem with this;-)
2)Open source advocates are always talking about the virtue of choice, but when MS offers choice, they cry foul
nope. we open-source advocates are always talking about the virtue of OPEN-SOURCE!!!!!! M$ isn't offering anything for free, they're offering a different fsckin' way to pay for closed-source software. You think we're gonna sit here with our thumbs up our butts goin' "Hip hip hooray for for a new way to pay for buggy, proprietary software!"
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
once again, we start to lose sight of the REAL question. What are you paying for? You're saying you should get a discount? I'm saying you should have to pay for the media, the work of the people that reproduced that media (i.e. the workers in the factory) and that's about it.
this is simply another example of why the whole concept of IP is flawed. All of the sudden, instead of paying for a tangeable product, or someone's time, you're paying for the concept of music, or the concept of their ownership of that music. THAT IS SIMPLY BULLSHIT.
you want the white album on CD. yes, you should have to pay for the CD (the physical CD) and YES, the guy who made sure that CD was reproduced correctly should be compensated for his work through your purchase, but NO....paul mccartney, ringo star, george harrison, and yoko (and maybe Michael Jackso now) should NOT be compensated for that purchase. Sorry, but their rights to make money off that music ended when they stopped performing it.
"huh?"
how come i'm not still getting paid for the work i did at a video store 6 years ago?
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
sorry, this might be considered off topic, but i earnestly believe it's a sign of trouble when questions like this even have to be asked. Happenings like this prove that the internet is turning away from what it once was, a microcasm(sp) of the world, but one that was open and free(ish). There was etiquite, and those who abused the system were shunned. Not necessarily punished by "societal" standars, but certainly avoided and black-listed to a certain extent.
It seems to me that this is changing. The whois database used to be just a simple means of finding out who owned a website, getting their contact information, and then contacting them. Now-a-days, it's become a means of grabbing more email for spam, or for offers to buy the domain from them, or (in a worst case scenario) it helps people figure out who to sue.
Idunno, i look back and i think, when i started on the 'net, i saw it catching on and i thought this would be a great way for people to change their ways; learn to live in a communal environment where everyone played by the rules and those who didn't were swiftly and effectively dealt with...
seems to me rather than the internet changing us, we're changing the 'net.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
it all comes down to "how are you doing?"
i don't see any problem with how i'm doing. I'm making a good deal of cash at 21. I've got a nice car, a nice place, and i'm certainly not wanting for any of the basic necessities of life except maybe a few more Playstation 2 games and legal marijuana (although that is almost a certainty in the next 10 years).
Bottom line - if this is what "shitty" democracy gets me, then hooray for shitty democracy.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you might check the register
they have a very interesting article about this as well. apparently the plant that they're getting rid of is not necessarily going to be completely outsourced. at the worst, it appears that 3dfx would pick a single company to manufacture the boards for them.
right now, the only fact we have is that 3dfx is selling it's facility in Juarez, Mexico. - who's to say what that will lead to.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
bzzzt. wrong answer, but thank you for trying.
i almost feel bad for you guys sometimes...i mean, is that the strongest argument you have for the existance of god? If there is a god - he's going to be pretty pissed off, come judgement day, that you guys didn't have anything better to say than some philosophical babble about how we can't actually prove that something DOESN'T exist.
going back to an earlier argument i made. Prove to me that 10,000 foot invisible lizard people didn't create the universe. Oh...you can't prove that they didn't???? Well then, they must exist. (if my invizible lizard-god argument is insane...then prove it to me without poking holes in your own crackpot theory on "god").
sorry theists, but the burden of proof lies with you guys...and every argument i've ever heard is just fucking weak.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
open minded is not the same as gullible.
i'm open minded - but if you want me to believe in something, you damn well better bring some facts to back your point up. EVERY argument i've had about the existance of god has come down to something on the order of:
"dude, you just gotta have faith"
sorry, but that's basically saying that, in order to find proof that god exists, i first have to believe that he exists...
WTF?!?! You want me to believe in god...it's really simple - GIVE ME PROOF HE/SHE/IT EXISTS!!!!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
how is that racist? please elaborate.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Hey fluxrad, its easy to poke holes in someone elses belief system, why don't you tell me what you believe in so I can tear it to shit and make fun of you?
simple. i believe in nothing. my life has no value, neither does yours. neither does anyone else's. We are a cosmic fluke. There may be others like us, on some other planet (in fact, i'm pretty sure there are. read: statistical probability).
why are we here? i have no idea - i figure somewhere a long time ago, life just happened. no rhyme, no reason - i've never seen any indication that there is a rhyme or reason.
what happens when we die? we're worm food. our bodies cease to function and we are buried. decomposers (worms, fungus, etc.) eat us and take what's left of the energy stored in our bodies. other organisms, higher up on the food chain, eat them...and thusly, the cycle of life continues...perhaps, in that sense, we are all canibals.
but in the end, it makes no difference. we are here for nothing.
if you ask me about morality, why it exists, i will give you this justification: if humans have a single evolutionary purpose, it is to see that that evolution continues unabated. Species continue to survive because they find it in their interests to survive. Otherwise, homo oftheweekticus would have died out hundreds of thousands of years ago - and no one would have cared. So - we have evolved with a genetic will to survive. In that instance - it is in our own best interests to set "rules" to ensure our survival.
i only have morals insofar as they serve either my own interests, or the interests of the species. No killing: this decreases the human population...that is bad for humans in general.
Don't be a dick to your fellow humans. this just comes down to the fact that i don't want to be treated poorly (i.e. being beaten up, mugged, etc.) - so i'll treat others in the manner that i wish to be treated. if we all abided by this rule, we'd all get along pretty well.
that pretty much sums up my belief system - there are others...but these are the big'uns.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
yes.
...equally dumb.
if you believe in god, in my opinion, you are dumb. jews, muslims, christians, etc. all equal.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
History's greatest thinkers have all seen the Truth that the Bible contains - Newton, St Augustine, even Galileo - but people like you think you know better, that science has "proven" that there is no God
Most of history's greatest thinkers believed there was a god because they were raised to believe there was a god. In their time, belief in god was not only common, it was assumed (BTW - Augustine is a REALLY bad example as he was himself a man of the cloth, so there's a general conflict of interest). I, too, believed there was a god for quite a number of years before waking up one day and realizing that i had absolutely no proof whatsoever (not even circumstantial evidence) that there was a god.
FYI - a number of history's greatest thinkers also believed that there was no god. Sagan was a perfect example.
So the question becomes - what undeniable truth do you have to offer the world that a god does, in fact, exist? Surely it can't be the arguments brought to bear by Aquinas or Augustine - these arguments are easily refuted by even the simplest musings of someone like Hume. (yes, athiests can read - and do quite frequently).
The fact of the matter is - you can offer no proof whatsoever. I should know, i've looked. And furthermore, it does not fall upon science to disprove the existance of god. It falls upon believers to PROVE the existance of such a deity. If I were to convey my belief about a race of 10,000 foot tall lizard-people who created the universe, and still roam the earth (although they are invisible) - you would call me crazy.
my question: can you prove they don't exist?
no? then by following your logic - they MUST exist.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
From the creator that brought you Life On Earth and The Great Flood, comes an epic story of a carpenter's son:
You've read the first. But you don't know the whole story...
Jesus is back. This time, it's personal.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
"yeah" said the lord, our God "I giveth thee javascript"
and onMouseover, water.gif turned into wine.gif, and there was much rejoicing.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
hrm. i'm not sure where in that post i belittled those who have faith. But frankly, i do think most believers have the emotional IQ of a rock, however.
BTW - i DO belittle most christians. As do i belittle most people who have been "abducted by aliens" and those who believe in the tooth fairy. same principle applies.
one other thing: tell you benevolent god that i want my fucking dog back!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
if the thread digresses, you can't mod someone down for being fucking off-topic. you think the dicaprio reference had anything to do with Linus' baby in the first place????????
these are the same moderators that think people who say shit you can't make sense of are "deep"
mod this one down too. i got karma to burn.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Pete Posthletwait(sp) was the only good aspect of that whole fsckin' movie.
A)Shakespeare was meant for the stage. end of conversation
B)Dicaprio and Daines couldn't act their way out of a wet paper bag.
PS - R&J was one of the worst shakespearian plays ever. It's too bad no one realizes this because they never bothered to read/see plays like MacBeth, Lear, or Much Ado...
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
do you guys even read you're own fucking webpage?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Her Dad is Linus. This means she's likely to have better than average intelligence and, quite probably, excellent coding skills
nope. modern genetics shows that most intelligence is actually given to the child by the mother. that's why you NEVER EVER EVER EVER marry a stupid woman. (all us guys are idiots anyway).
about looks: the attractiveness of the parents will be inversly proportional to the ugliness of the baby. Brad and Jennifer's baby is gonna be FUGLY!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i tried to run linuxnews.pl and nothing happened.
bash$./linuxnews.pl
error: are you a fuckin' idiot
bash$
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I expect that nothing much will be different in 10 years... MS (and the other commercial software houses) will still be raking in the money, and open source software will still be little more than the hobbyist's playground.
yes....thank god for hobby programs like Apache, Sendmail, and MySQL.
know what you're talking about before you spout. open-source is the backbone of tech. closed-source just gets the press.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
where did i say that M$ would make office 11 subscription only???? you can talk all the trash you want to me, i don't mind, but when you misquote me, you only give your "foes" more ammo. But i'm banking that when Office 11 comes out M$ will make users pay for the privilege of the upgrade. My evidence: precident. When you buy win95, you get free upgrades (serivce packs, if you'll grant me the liberty), but Win98 is still gonna cost you a butt load of money. Same with any M$ product. You want to take M$ at face value, that's fine...but i've seen them pull some pretty sneaky shit and i'll believe it when i see it, untill then....i'll just base my judgements on what microsoft has been known to do time and time again. If you think they're basing this new pricing scheme on a "hey, we should really do more for the customers" then you don't know business.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
because what the other guy is doing has a direct effect on us.
half of open-source software (or closed source *nix software for that matter) is just trying to emulate windows software. As i'm sure you know, projects like WINE have a VERY hard time with this because windows has so many bugs they actually have to emulate some of them to make apps work properly.
hooray for the kludge.
btw - i use windows at home for 1 thing. counter-strike. were it not for this game, there is no way in HELL i'd have windows on my box.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
1)Yes, the "subscription" will be cheaper at first, but can you honestly believe M$ is gonna try to migrate to this if it doesn't put more money in their coffers in the long run? (BTW - when office 11 comes out, M$ will say "we said free updates, we didn't say a whole new version")....no, i don't see why anyone would have a problem with this ;-)
2)Open source advocates are always talking about the virtue of choice, but when MS offers choice, they cry foul
nope. we open-source advocates are always talking about the virtue of OPEN-SOURCE!!!!!! M$ isn't offering anything for free, they're offering a different fsckin' way to pay for closed-source software. You think we're gonna sit here with our thumbs up our butts goin' "Hip hip hooray for for a new way to pay for buggy, proprietary software!"
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
actually, you can....you just have to use "xargs"
i'd do it like this:
ps -auxww | grep -i clip | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
once again, we start to lose sight of the REAL question. What are you paying for? You're saying you should get a discount? I'm saying you should have to pay for the media, the work of the people that reproduced that media (i.e. the workers in the factory) and that's about it.
this is simply another example of why the whole concept of IP is flawed. All of the sudden, instead of paying for a tangeable product, or someone's time, you're paying for the concept of music, or the concept of their ownership of that music. THAT IS SIMPLY BULLSHIT.
you want the white album on CD. yes, you should have to pay for the CD (the physical CD) and YES, the guy who made sure that CD was reproduced correctly should be compensated for his work through your purchase, but NO....paul mccartney, ringo star, george harrison, and yoko (and maybe Michael Jackso now) should NOT be compensated for that purchase. Sorry, but their rights to make money off that music ended when they stopped performing it.
"huh?"
how come i'm not still getting paid for the work i did at a video store 6 years ago?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
At times I wonder how a collective environment such as the interenet survives self-serving commercial interest.
idunno. i think that's beginning to sound like "how does an aids patient survive HIV"
answer: they don't.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
sorry, this might be considered off topic, but i earnestly believe it's a sign of trouble when questions like this even have to be asked. Happenings like this prove that the internet is turning away from what it once was, a microcasm(sp) of the world, but one that was open and free(ish). There was etiquite, and those who abused the system were shunned. Not necessarily punished by "societal" standars, but certainly avoided and black-listed to a certain extent.
It seems to me that this is changing. The whois database used to be just a simple means of finding out who owned a website, getting their contact information, and then contacting them. Now-a-days, it's become a means of grabbing more email for spam, or for offers to buy the domain from them, or (in a worst case scenario) it helps people figure out who to sue.
Idunno, i look back and i think, when i started on the 'net, i saw it catching on and i thought this would be a great way for people to change their ways; learn to live in a communal environment where everyone played by the rules and those who didn't were swiftly and effectively dealt with...
seems to me rather than the internet changing us, we're changing the 'net.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network