So yeah, I'm gonna download songs from the album first before I buy the CD because I'm not paying $15 for 1 (one) song I liked from the radio.
Provided you know which track you want to keep, then download the song on Rhapsody ($1/track) or eMusic ($15/mo), which are legitimate sites that have licensed labels' catalogs.
Why does a 25 CD cost $18, anyway, about what it cost when invented 20 years ago?
Actually, $18 in AD2002 dollars is much cheaper than $18 in AD1983 dollars. Though the cost of mechanically replicating the product has gone down over the years, the cost of production (writing the songs, performing them, mixing, mastering, designing the cover, writing the manual, storing them in warehouses, shipping them to retailers, and selling them to the end user) is largely bound to the cost of labor, which (when measured in current dollars) has gone up with inflation.
53 Kbps connections don't happen over the majority of phone lines; use 48 Kbps. Error correction, PPP, IP, and TCP overhead eat about 20 percent of bandwidth; change to 10 bits per byte. Now your calculation becomes 48/10*3600*24*30/1048576, or about 12 GB per month.
but i sorely doubt they'll be able to live without tv.
Unlike in the UK, the major broadcast television networks in the USA do not put a levy on owning a television set. You can probably still watch TV; you just won't get cable.
How does someone using 2K/s (about what is needed to meet the cap) for a month qualify as a bandwidth hog
When you buy consumer broadband, and it's capped, you're really buying what amounts to a 28.8 kbps connection "burstable" to higher speeds. You're not supposed to "burst" all the time.
If you can buy Internet access from six (or whatever) different companies, then there is no monopoly on Internet access.
But what if you define "high-speed Internet access" as "at least 10 GB/month up and down burstable to at least 256 kbps up and down, with no mandatory 750 ms satellite lag and no restrictions on operating systems or use of ports or NAT"? Then you may find that nobody provides high-speed Internet access in your town cheaper than $500 per month (fractional T1 from the telco). The Internet is not port 80.
A suicidal business decision resulting in the loss of all users with a brain? Yes.
Do you feel sure that the loss of all users with a brain will outweigh the increased margin that the ISP can skim off less-clued users? If not, a decision to do dirty DNS tricks may not turn out as suicidal as you may think.
For a tech audience, the non-routable IPs are obvious enough.
And they have a connotation of "non-routable IP" such as "if you keep it on 192.168.12.34 then the world can't see it". If I want to make an example hostname, I often use www.example.com, and if I want to make an example routable IP address, I might put a 257 in there.
If the pendulum swings too far-- cable modem providers arbitrarily limiting service in ways that customers don't like-- then somebody will see a business opportunity to offer unmetered, unshaped service
Over what last-mile technology? Most municipalities have granted the local telco the exclusive right to bury DSL wires, and the local cable TV company the exclusive right to bury cable Internet wires. What's your plan to go around the last-mile duopoly?
Really? What if Road Runner were to throttle all hosts not on AOL(tw)'s whitelist to dial-up speeds, or to block them entirely for users who cannot demonstrate proof of age 21 or older in the name of "parental controls" about which the parent doesn't really have much of a clue?
You want to get ther badly enough, you arrange with someone for a proxy.
Not if the router between your ISP and the Internet blocks everything but outgoing TCP port 80 connections. There's not as much money in being a consumer ISP as there is in being a W3SP (World Wide Web service provider).
isn't there some law that says certain types of providers can't be held accountable since they don't control content?
True. In October 1998, the United States Congress passed a law to that effect as a rider to the DMCA, and it shields an ISP from liability for copyright infringement as long as the ISP responds to takedown requests that contain a given amount of information.
you don't have to make it that using Windows is the crime of the century
For the poor, it is. A one-seat Windows XP license costs $300. If you use Windows without paying for it, you have committed either theft or copyright infringement.
By all means, give us the ability to make good mixed disks at home
This is what I'm concerned about. I'm afraid that such kiosks will put copy-cripple coding on any mix CDs they burn, and I won't be able to rip mix burn my own CD without going through the analog hole. But of course, if the CDs are up to spec, leaving short gaps between songs is the best policy.
Note the Traktor does BPM calculation and automatic sync'ing (if desired), a travesty according to my DJ'ing friends.
Those who consider semi-automatic synchronization of two recordings "a travesty" make buggy whips.
how does the number of times I play a CD/DVD or the attention required to "enjoy" it affect the cost to produce it?
It doesn't, but it does affect what you're willing to pay, that is, what you're willing to buy at any given price level (i.e. the "demand curve"), and that's all that matters to a monopolist. A monopolist computes the marginal revenue curve from the demand curve and then compares it against the marginal cost curve, and where they cross is the optimal price and quantity.
Consider it a 2-player game. Say the player builds this 4-layer hole with the expectation to complete 4 layers with the next 4-long piece. In their game, the player knows when this piece arrives. In online tetris, the 'giver' can observe this setup and decide not to give any 4-longs at all.
In most official TETRIS® products, each player has an independent PRNG seeded from the same value at the start; thus, the game gives the same pieces in the same order to both players. Thus, if you're not getting any sticks, the other player is just as screwed as you are.
Another version of the tetris song on mp3.com
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The Betamax case says absolutely nothing about media-shifting, only time-shifting.
The Betamax case (Sony v. Universal) states in specific that time-shifting is not infringement. It also states in general that devices can have substantial non-infringing uses, as the Supreme Court outlined in what came to be called the "Betamax Test".
Now if you had mentioned the Diamond case, you might have a point.
Wasn't the Diamond case decided on the "Betamax Test" of substantial non-infringing use? But anyway, thanks for the pointer. Now I can use both Betamax and Diamond against those who try to argue anti-emulation and anti-homebrew positions.
I find very few of these "singles" at Best Buy anymore, and most of them are the current Top 40. It's very difficult to track down non-pop or back-catalog singles in a brick-and-mortar store.
Currently, there are very few DVD Audio titles (MLP lossless audio, with an alternate AC-3 track for DVD Video players), and they're just as expensive as CDs.
There's no reason you can't have a soundtrack track, and a soundtrack+speaking track, etc, etc.
Other than that the movie studio doesn't want to provide them but rather to sell you the soundtrack twice.
I'm really starting to hate all these continuous mix CDs that are coming out.
Tip: With one of those, try mixing into the middle of a song.
I've found for my type of music they tend to detect the BPM at half the value it should
Which, for the record, does not affect the beat matching, as matching one beat of one song to two beats of the next song (e.g. a 90 bpm slow rock song to a 180 bpm speed-metal song) can be made to sound quite nice. But anyway, misdetection of tempo isn't much of a problem in kiosks, as the xml file that holds artist, title, price, etc. can also hold time-signature and tempo terms.
There's no reason [that digital beat matching] technology can't be integrated into a kiosk.
Other than that the record labels aren't smart enough to want to provide that functionality for those who demand more from their mix discs. <roleplay role="record label executive">If catering to the "three second gap between songs" crowd is enough to turn a decent profit, why add more features?</roleplay>
I can [space- and format-shift the music on] a DVD.
But can you do it for songs for which the band has not released a music video? And, for movie soundtracks, can you remove the dialogue when the actors speak over the soundtrack?
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So yeah, I'm gonna download songs from the album first before I buy the CD because I'm not paying $15 for 1 (one) song I liked from the radio.
Provided you know which track you want to keep, then download the song on Rhapsody ($1/track) or eMusic ($15/mo), which are legitimate sites that have licensed labels' catalogs.
Why does a 25 CD cost $18, anyway, about what it cost when invented 20 years ago?
Actually, $18 in AD2002 dollars is much cheaper than $18 in AD1983 dollars. Though the cost of mechanically replicating the product has gone down over the years, the cost of production (writing the songs, performing them, mixing, mastering, designing the cover, writing the manual, storing them in warehouses, shipping them to retailers, and selling them to the end user) is largely bound to the cost of labor, which (when measured in current dollars) has gone up with inflation.
53/8*3600*24*30/1048576
53 Kbps connections don't happen over the majority of phone lines; use 48 Kbps. Error correction, PPP, IP, and TCP overhead eat about 20 percent of bandwidth; change to 10 bits per byte. Now your calculation becomes 48/10*3600*24*30/1048576, or about 12 GB per month.
but i sorely doubt they'll be able to live without tv.
Unlike in the UK, the major broadcast television networks in the USA do not put a levy on owning a television set. You can probably still watch TV; you just won't get cable.
How does someone using 2K/s (about what is needed to meet the cap) for a month qualify as a bandwidth hog
When you buy consumer broadband, and it's capped, you're really buying what amounts to a 28.8 kbps connection "burstable" to higher speeds. You're not supposed to "burst" all the time.
You mean only if you have to connect to the backbone.
You can't get to Slashdot except through the backbone.
If you can buy Internet access from six (or whatever) different companies, then there is no monopoly on Internet access.
But what if you define "high-speed Internet access" as "at least 10 GB/month up and down burstable to at least 256 kbps up and down, with no mandatory 750 ms satellite lag and no restrictions on operating systems or use of ports or NAT"? Then you may find that nobody provides high-speed Internet access in your town cheaper than $500 per month (fractional T1 from the telco). The Internet is not port 80.
A suicidal business decision resulting in the loss of all users with a brain? Yes.
Do you feel sure that the loss of all users with a brain will outweigh the increased margin that the ISP can skim off less-clued users? If not, a decision to do dirty DNS tricks may not turn out as suicidal as you may think.
For a tech audience, the non-routable IPs are obvious enough.
And they have a connotation of "non-routable IP" such as "if you keep it on 192.168.12.34 then the world can't see it". If I want to make an example hostname, I often use www.example.com, and if I want to make an example routable IP address, I might put a 257 in there.
If the pendulum swings too far-- cable modem providers arbitrarily limiting service in ways that customers don't like-- then somebody will see a business opportunity to offer unmetered, unshaped service
Over what last-mile technology? Most municipalities have granted the local telco the exclusive right to bury DSL wires, and the local cable TV company the exclusive right to bury cable Internet wires. What's your plan to go around the last-mile duopoly?
ISPs do not control the content.
Really? What if Road Runner were to throttle all hosts not on AOL(tw)'s whitelist to dial-up speeds, or to block them entirely for users who cannot demonstrate proof of age 21 or older in the name of "parental controls" about which the parent doesn't really have much of a clue?
You want to get ther badly enough, you arrange with someone for a proxy.
Not if the router between your ISP and the Internet blocks everything but outgoing TCP port 80 connections. There's not as much money in being a consumer ISP as there is in being a W3SP (World Wide Web service provider).
isn't there some law that says certain types of providers can't be held accountable since they don't control content?
True. In October 1998, the United States Congress passed a law to that effect as a rider to the DMCA, and it shields an ISP from liability for copyright infringement as long as the ISP responds to takedown requests that contain a given amount of information.
I am a DSL tech for a insert big company name that used to be GTE and not all DSL has to use PPPOE
When did the company formerly known as Bell Atlantic drop the silly PPPoE crap?
It is hard to take this post seriously when all it does is bash Windows.
The article doesn't bash Windows the way Cygwin bashes Windows. Cygwin bash is better than the alternative.
you don't have to make it that using Windows is the crime of the century
For the poor, it is. A one-seat Windows XP license costs $300. If you use Windows without paying for it, you have committed either theft or copyright infringement.
Plus, you're not timothy.
By all means, give us the ability to make good mixed disks at home
This is what I'm concerned about. I'm afraid that such kiosks will put copy-cripple coding on any mix CDs they burn, and I won't be able to rip mix burn my own CD without going through the analog hole. But of course, if the CDs are up to spec, leaving short gaps between songs is the best policy.
Note the Traktor does BPM calculation and automatic sync'ing (if desired), a travesty according to my DJ'ing friends.
Those who consider semi-automatic synchronization of two recordings "a travesty" make buggy whips.
how does the number of times I play a CD/DVD or the attention required to "enjoy" it affect the cost to produce it?
It doesn't, but it does affect what you're willing to pay, that is, what you're willing to buy at any given price level (i.e. the "demand curve"), and that's all that matters to a monopolist. A monopolist computes the marginal revenue curve from the demand curve and then compares it against the marginal cost curve, and where they cross is the optimal price and quantity.
I'm personally convinced that Tetris and all its clones have a highly sophisticated masochistic AI.
I don't know about most Tetris clones, but I do know that Tetanus On Drugs has only a simple linear congruential PRNG, not some sadistic AI.
Consider it a 2-player game. Say the player builds this 4-layer hole with the expectation to complete 4 layers with the next 4-long piece. In their game, the player knows when this piece arrives. In online tetris, the 'giver' can observe this setup and decide not to give any 4-longs at all.
In most official TETRIS® products, each player has an independent PRNG seeded from the same value at the start; thus, the game gives the same pieces in the same order to both players. Thus, if you're not getting any sticks, the other player is just as screwed as you are.
Here's a Europop version of "Korobeyniki", which many players think of as "the Tetris song".
The Betamax case says absolutely nothing about media-shifting, only time-shifting.
The Betamax case (Sony v. Universal) states in specific that time-shifting is not infringement. It also states in general that devices can have substantial non-infringing uses, as the Supreme Court outlined in what came to be called the "Betamax Test".
Now if you had mentioned the Diamond case, you might have a point.
Wasn't the Diamond case decided on the "Betamax Test" of substantial non-infringing use? But anyway, thanks for the pointer. Now I can use both Betamax and Diamond against those who try to argue anti-emulation and anti-homebrew positions.
[An album] only has 3 songs
I find very few of these "singles" at Best Buy anymore, and most of them are the current Top 40. It's very difficult to track down non-pop or back-catalog singles in a brick-and-mortar store.
this is an Audio only DVD
Currently, there are very few DVD Audio titles (MLP lossless audio, with an alternate AC-3 track for DVD Video players), and they're just as expensive as CDs.
There's no reason you can't have a soundtrack track, and a soundtrack+speaking track, etc, etc.
Other than that the movie studio doesn't want to provide them but rather to sell you the soundtrack twice.
I'm really starting to hate all these continuous mix CDs that are coming out.
Tip: With one of those, try mixing into the middle of a song.
I've found for my type of music they tend to detect the BPM at half the value it should
Which, for the record, does not affect the beat matching, as matching one beat of one song to two beats of the next song (e.g. a 90 bpm slow rock song to a 180 bpm speed-metal song) can be made to sound quite nice. But anyway, misdetection of tempo isn't much of a problem in kiosks, as the xml file that holds artist, title, price, etc. can also hold time-signature and tempo terms.
There's no reason [that digital beat matching] technology can't be integrated into a kiosk.
Other than that the record labels aren't smart enough to want to provide that functionality for those who demand more from their mix discs. <roleplay role="record label executive">If catering to the "three second gap between songs" crowd is enough to turn a decent profit, why add more features?</roleplay>
I can [space- and format-shift the music on] a DVD.
But can you do it for songs for which the band has not released a music video? And, for movie soundtracks, can you remove the dialogue when the actors speak over the soundtrack?
Apparently, BitMover has removed the most objectionable term (the non-compete agreement) from the no-cash BitKeeper license. Please moderate down the parent comment.