but if i paid for it as a 512/256 from the telco that the telco advertises as flat fee, use as much as you want
But the ad now says 512/256 kbps*, where * indicates burst rate.
Many telcos are starting to change their residential plan offerings to "burstable" service, such as offers that translate to 50/10 kbps burstable to 512/256 kbps, to clarify how oversold their services are. For example, ISPs in New Zealand and its bigger neighbour to the west-northwest will often offer a given burst rate with a 3 GB monthly cap (which is equivalent to 9.2 kbps down), primarily because pulling cable across the Pacific Ocean floor is highly expensive.
Then why no intellectual property tax?
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properties such as copyrights and trademarks
If copyrights are considered property, then why don't copyright owners have to pay a property tax?
They compress the packets of data. Where will this help? In compressible places that aren't already compressed. Such as the HTML markup for webpages. This wont help... already compressed ZIP/GZIP files
The only way this "new technology" is going to help is if you are a dialup user without broadband options.
Or if dial-up with this compressing proxy is $25/mo, broadband is $50/mo, and you have several mouths to feed. Or if you have to get online from several locations.
Grandparent was referring to the $10-$20/mo marginal cost of broadband over the $20/mo national median cost of dial-up. Under this, broadband would cost $30-$40, in line with your observation.
You admit that a $200,000 setup fee isn't "a few bucks more." Thank you; most people miss this.
But what about people who are so mobile that they need to be able to jack in and access the Internet from any of several locations, and they can't afford the price of a broadband subscription for each location? I was in just that situation for four years. Dial-up has the advantage of a last mile in almost every home in the States, brought to you by the Universal Service Tax, meaning that no matter whose house I was visiting, I could always plug my laptop into the wall and dial my Verizon Online account.
GM can void the warranty of a GM car for using a GM part that they did not certify for repairs.
Are you sure GM can do that under the Magnuson-Moss act? If so, can you point me to appropriate references?
But a chopped car won't thus allowing GM to voide the warranty, punish you (for reciving stolen property), and punish the garage for using the parts.
If one purchases a car to chop it, where is the stolen property? Or does "stolen property" in this case refer to patent infringement, using the entertainment industry's "infringement == theft" rhetoric?
Isn't the United States bound under international treaties such as the Berne Convention to keep a copyright term of at least life plus 50 years? Isn't anybody who ducks out of the Berne Convention automatically dropped from the World Trade Organization and subject to embargoes from WTO members?
I'm all for the kind of "copyresponsibility" you speak of, but practically, how would one go about getting such a worldwide copyright reform passed?
Yeah, thats why there are no indie bands out there.
Just because unsigned bands haven't been sued out of existence yet doesn't mean that they aren't breaking the law nor that they won't be sued out of existence tomorrow.
Thats why Lessings Creative Commons licenses are in use by nobody whatsoever.
Just as free software licenses are in wide use for computer programs, Dr. Lessig's Creative Commons licenses are in wide use for prose literary works. Prose isn't as close to the situation described in "Melancholy Elephants" by Spider Robinson as musical works are. The differences between prose and music are that 1. chance substantial similarities in a prose passage are less likely than chance substantial similarities in a melody, and 2. access to copyrighted prose isn't rammed down our throats every day by Clear Channel.
Unsigned bands exist, therefore unsigned bands are clearly capable of releasing music and profiting off it. Therefore, your argument must be wrong.
"Unsigned bands haven't got caught yet, therefore what unsigned bands do is not illegal." What is the difference between your observation and "it's not illegal if you don't get caught"? If you have something constructive to say, I'll update my model of music theory and law accordingly.
They would then void warranties of cars using these grey market parts.
In the United States, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Improvement Act states that a manufacturer can void a warranty for using off-brand parts only if it can prove that the repair was made necessary because of those parts.
As for the LexisNexis searches that cost is probably easy to calculate because they charge for use of the service and he probably used $300,000 worth of the service without paying for it.
And I'd guess that you think the RIAA's figure of $150,000 per song is reasonable as well. Would "We overprice our service, and we expect your honor to do the same" stand up in court?
but networks like waste are coming with possibilities of saturating your inbound and outbound lines
And getting users kicked off their ISPs for violating the "excessive use" provisions of the typical residential acceptable use policy. Remember that in many areas of the United States, there is one ISP with a monopoly guaranteed by a municipal utility franchise; thus, switching ISPs costs $200,000 to move the whole family to an area served by a different ISP.
And shouldn't 20+ years be sufficient to recoup those costs?
Those who bore the costs of R&D for the Compact Disc Digital Audio have recouped those costs. However, the price of labor has gone up. Such labor includes clearing the rights to the songs, recording the songs, promoting the songs to Clear Channel through a so-called "independent" agency, and renting shelf space inside Wal-Mart and Best Buy. When converted to multiples of the Consumer Price Index to correct for the shrinking value of the dollar with respect to labor, CDs cost now about as much as LPs cost when CDs first came out.
3) Get sued by a half dozen music publishers who claim you plagiarized their songs.
4) Be forced to settle because you don't have enough cash to hire an attorney to defend you in court.
5) LOSS!
There is no real limit to the number of songs that can be written
Most emphatically false.
Music theory sets a combinatoric limit on the number of possible sequences of discrete notes. Copyright case law sets a limit on how much can be copied before the copying warrants a finding of infringement. Therefore, it's possible to infringe by chance. Please read my white paper about this issue.
Some time just for grin find the cost of buying parts for your car, and start adding them up. You'll quickly come up to a sum much greater than what you paid for the car.
Then why haven't some of the car thieves gone legit and bought cars to chop up?
Umm yeah, lets start with www.cdbaby.com all independednt artists
What happens when the independent recording artists whose recordings are made available through cd baby, vitaminic, etc. get sued by major music publishing companies for writing songs that are "substantially similar" to popular songs? Even if it's an accident, it can be a six- to seven-figure accident; just look at what happened to George Harrison.
This is what the RIAA, SCO, and the like really fear, everything else is a sideshow. When people use open source software, public domain works, and entertain themselves online, as befits a free people.
What about a medium or genre that was created after the cut-off date for perpetual copyright (1923 in the USA)? Such mediums include sound films, and such genres include rock music.
What happens in several decades once Project Gutenberg has finally digitized all known public domain works?
Slashdot Mirror
So anyone know what will happen to the source?
Would donating BSD/OS source code to the FreeBSD Foundation let Wind River write it off as a tax deduction?
but if i paid for it as a 512/256 from the telco that the telco advertises as flat fee, use as much as you want
But the ad now says 512/256 kbps*, where * indicates burst rate.
Many telcos are starting to change their residential plan offerings to "burstable" service, such as offers that translate to 50/10 kbps burstable to 512/256 kbps, to clarify how oversold their services are. For example, ISPs in New Zealand and its bigger neighbour to the west-northwest will often offer a given burst rate with a 3 GB monthly cap (which is equivalent to 9.2 kbps down), primarily because pulling cable across the Pacific Ocean floor is highly expensive.
properties such as copyrights and trademarks
If copyrights are considered property, then why don't copyright owners have to pay a property tax?
"Offenses" such as copyright infringement are not crimes.
Bull. See 17 USC 506, paying close attention to the definition of "financial gain" in 17 USC 101.
They compress the packets of data. Where will this help? In compressible places that aren't already compressed. Such as the HTML markup for webpages. This wont help ... already compressed ZIP/GZIP files
In properly set-up Apache installations, aren't HTML files "already compressed GZIP files"?
The only way this "new technology" is going to help is if you are a dialup user without broadband options.
Or if dial-up with this compressing proxy is $25/mo, broadband is $50/mo, and you have several mouths to feed. Or if you have to get online from several locations.
Grandparent was referring to the $10-$20/mo marginal cost of broadband over the $20/mo national median cost of dial-up. Under this, broadband would cost $30-$40, in line with your observation.
You admit that a $200,000 setup fee isn't "a few bucks more." Thank you; most people miss this.
But what about people who are so mobile that they need to be able to jack in and access the Internet from any of several locations, and they can't afford the price of a broadband subscription for each location? I was in just that situation for four years. Dial-up has the advantage of a last mile in almost every home in the States, brought to you by the Universal Service Tax, meaning that no matter whose house I was visiting, I could always plug my laptop into the wall and dial my Verizon Online account.
GM can void the warranty of a GM car for using a GM part that they did not certify for repairs.
Are you sure GM can do that under the Magnuson-Moss act? If so, can you point me to appropriate references?
But a chopped car won't thus allowing GM to voide the warranty, punish you (for reciving stolen property), and punish the garage for using the parts.
If one purchases a car to chop it, where is the stolen property? Or does "stolen property" in this case refer to patent infringement, using the entertainment industry's "infringement == theft" rhetoric?
Isn't the United States bound under international treaties such as the Berne Convention to keep a copyright term of at least life plus 50 years? Isn't anybody who ducks out of the Berne Convention automatically dropped from the World Trade Organization and subject to embargoes from WTO members?
I'm all for the kind of "copyresponsibility" you speak of, but practically, how would one go about getting such a worldwide copyright reform passed?
Yeah, thats why there are no indie bands out there.
Just because unsigned bands haven't been sued out of existence yet doesn't mean that they aren't breaking the law nor that they won't be sued out of existence tomorrow.
Thats why Lessings Creative Commons licenses are in use by nobody whatsoever.
Just as free software licenses are in wide use for computer programs, Dr. Lessig's Creative Commons licenses are in wide use for prose literary works. Prose isn't as close to the situation described in "Melancholy Elephants" by Spider Robinson as musical works are. The differences between prose and music are that 1. chance substantial similarities in a prose passage are less likely than chance substantial similarities in a melody, and 2. access to copyrighted prose isn't rammed down our throats every day by Clear Channel.
Unsigned bands exist, therefore unsigned bands are clearly capable of releasing music and profiting off it. Therefore, your argument must be wrong.
"Unsigned bands haven't got caught yet, therefore what unsigned bands do is not illegal." What is the difference between your observation and "it's not illegal if you don't get caught"? If you have something constructive to say, I'll update my model of music theory and law accordingly.
They would then void warranties of cars using these grey market parts.
In the United States, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Improvement Act states that a manufacturer can void a warranty for using off-brand parts only if it can prove that the repair was made necessary because of those parts.
Been there, read that. Any suggested solutions?
As for the LexisNexis searches that cost is probably easy to calculate because they charge for use of the service and he probably used $300,000 worth of the service without paying for it.
And I'd guess that you think the RIAA's figure of $150,000 per song is reasonable as well. Would "We overprice our service, and we expect your honor to do the same" stand up in court?
could CG characters eventually be cheaper than "real" actors?
Should CG take off, voice actors will demand pay raises.
but networks like waste are coming with possibilities of saturating your inbound and outbound lines
And getting users kicked off their ISPs for violating the "excessive use" provisions of the typical residential acceptable use policy. Remember that in many areas of the United States, there is one ISP with a monopoly guaranteed by a municipal utility franchise; thus, switching ISPs costs $200,000 to move the whole family to an area served by a different ISP.
And shouldn't 20+ years be sufficient to recoup those costs?
Those who bore the costs of R&D for the Compact Disc Digital Audio have recouped those costs. However, the price of labor has gone up. Such labor includes clearing the rights to the songs, recording the songs, promoting the songs to Clear Channel through a so-called "independent" agency, and renting shelf space inside Wal-Mart and Best Buy. When converted to multiples of the Consumer Price Index to correct for the shrinking value of the dollar with respect to labor, CDs cost now about as much as LPs cost when CDs first came out.
Negativland tried this and had to settle.
1) Write song
2) Give song away
3) Get sued by a half dozen music publishers who claim you plagiarized their songs.
4) Be forced to settle because you don't have enough cash to hire an attorney to defend you in court.
5) LOSS!
The RIAA doesn't care what plays
The RIAA is concerned not only with sound recording copyrights but also with "gold" and "platinum" certifications of albums and singles.
There is no real limit to the number of songs that can be written
Most emphatically false.
Music theory sets a combinatoric limit on the number of possible sequences of discrete notes. Copyright case law sets a limit on how much can be copied before the copying warrants a finding of infringement. Therefore, it's possible to infringe by chance. Please read my white paper about this issue.
Some time just for grin find the cost of buying parts for your car, and start adding them up. You'll quickly come up to a sum much greater than what you paid for the car.
Then why haven't some of the car thieves gone legit and bought cars to chop up?
Don't forget you're talking about a greedy middleman that ensures artists get pennies on the dollars for their music.
Well at least getting pennies on the dollar and access to musicologists is better than going independent and inevitably getting sued by a music publisher and losing for seven figures.
but I believe most people don't shoplift because they think it is wrong
Deep ethics question: Define "wrong." Many people define "wrong" as what will get them in "trouble", where "trouble" is formal negative sanctions.
Umm yeah, lets start with www.cdbaby.com all independednt artists
What happens when the independent recording artists whose recordings are made available through cd baby, vitaminic, etc. get sued by major music publishing companies for writing songs that are "substantially similar" to popular songs? Even if it's an accident, it can be a six- to seven-figure accident; just look at what happened to George Harrison.
This is what the RIAA, SCO, and the like really fear, everything else is a sideshow. When people use open source software, public domain works, and entertain themselves online, as befits a free people.
What about a medium or genre that was created after the cut-off date for perpetual copyright (1923 in the USA)? Such mediums include sound films, and such genres include rock music.
What happens in several decades once Project Gutenberg has finally digitized all known public domain works?
Sonny Bono owns you.