The passmark rating per watt for each respectively is 26.7, 28.3, 28.7
The passmark rating per dollar for each respectively is 18.5, 16.4, 17.5
All of these are basically right in line with each other, give or take a smidgen, and all have passively cooled variants. Above these is a big jump in TDP and quite often cost as well. I've been eying the price of cards like these for quite some time as a possible noise and performance upgrade for my aging 8800 GT (105W TDP)
I don't know about the high performance cards, but a HD7770 can run circles around the similarily priced GTX650 cards.
Anyone that can run the HD 6850 will do so over either the GTX 650 or the HD 7770 because its only a few bucks more than either and beats both in performance.
This is an awkward spot in the market for consumers because for the TDP budget that the GTX 650 and HD 7770 target you really cannot get much higher performance at any dollar cost. In that regard, these are top-shelf flagship products that just happen to cost only $100.
The HD 7770 uses 32% more power than the GTX 650, so its not really a surprise that it performs better. What is a surprise is that it doesnt perform so much better as to be the obvious choice.
The GTX 650 is 64 watt TDP while the HD 7770 is 80 watt TDP.
The HD 6850 that easily beats both and is only slightly more expensive than either is 127 watts TDP.
The market for these two cards isn't the performance per dollar market.
This is spot on but let me give my observation of when and why this is true.
Your comment example eludes to the operation being performed, but far more importantly it is documenting the data being used and generated.
Operations should be self-documenting. The function names and variable names, as well as the structure of expressions and flow control, should all conspire to inform the programmer about what steps are being performed as clearly as possible.
Comments on the other hand should conspire to keep the programmer informed about the nature of the data being juggled by those operations.
In this way, a local understanding of the program doesnt require a global inspection. None of this is being done to help the programmer on the day he writes the code. It is always done to help a programmer that does not have a fresh internalized global model of the program either because its been months or years since he write it, or because someone else wrote it.
Actually it's exactly the big corps that have the legislators in their pockets.
Its thinking like this that prevents anything from being done about it. The corporations don't hold the keys, the politicians do. The politicians are on control, and all by themselves sell the fruits of that control to corporations. Nobody is forcing them to. They do it willingly. Get it? They are fucking you willingly, for their own benefit.
A passenger gets into a taxi cab and offers money to the the driver to drive to a specific destination.
Everyone agrees that the taxi driver is still ultimately in control, that the passenger is just making an offer for services. So too, the politicians are ultimately in control, that the corporations are just making an offer for services.
If the cab driver absolutely refused to drive to a specific location, then the cab would never go to that location no matter how many times the passenger asked. So too, if the politician absolutely refused to trade his powers for corporate favor, then rent-seeking laws such as what the RIAA/MPAA get away with would never get passed.
Hold the politicians responsible. Don't vote for the corrupt ones, ever, and be vocal about why you aren't doing so. If everyone on the ballot is a corrupt son-of-a-bitch, write in your own name, and if thats not an option, write "fuck you too" on the ballot.
Yes, but there is nothing that prevents me from converting every dollar I make, immediately to bitcoins, and changing some of my bitcoins back into US dollars only on April 15th to pay my taxes.
Sure there is. market forces prevent people from doing this. If everyone did it, bitcoins would crash just before tax time every single year.
It is appalling how corporations, mostly US based, have managed to get everybody working to protect their interests. Ofc, they could not have done that alone, they have the US Gov that throws its weight around if need arises. They basically have every police dept. working to enforce copyright/DMCA and whatever else they cook up. This might be all fine and dandy if those corporations would bother to pay taxes in the countries they do business in. As it turns out, most of the time, they manage to skip paying them.
The corporations want you to keep blaming them, because that way the people that are selling legislation and influence can continue to sell legislation and influence to them.
I cannot believe that so many people dont get it, and convince themselves that blaming the people that arent in control is somehow the correct way to operate their protest.
Actually, like most countries the U.S. backs its currency with the authority to tax.
The dollar has value because it can pay a dollars worth of taxes.
When Germany jumped into the eurozone, adoption of the euro was extremely slow until the year that Germany required all taxes be paid in euros, and in that year almost everyone converted.
Listen kiddo, I was on the internet before it was the internet
So you might be older than me, but still probably not.
Blah blah blah. The girl that waved her dick when challenged.
The world moved on. So did cell phones, which were originally the size of bricks and had an LED readout and the signal washed out whenever you revved your engine. What Nokia has here may have been relevant back when dinosaurs still roamed the Earth, but today I can buy an SOC chip at retail price for under $30 that'll render 1080p video at 30 FPS and has several gigs of ram on it and a helluva lot more storage.
See how fucking myopic you are? Nokia makes phones for the entire world, where GSM is still the predominant standard (80%) and $30 is half a years wage for hundreds of millions of people.
The world didn't move on. You did. Don't attribute to the entire world all the luxury that you have.
I know this is slashdot and we do not read much what people so that we can rant and seem smart. But come on, it is written in TFS and TFT (the F-ing title). "Nokia admits decrypting user data."
..because they encrypt the users data on the device, and send it to their servers where it must be decrypted in order to know what it is and even where to send it.
Would you rather they didnt encrypt the data and sent it over the air like that instead?
You claim to know that this is slashdot, but dont seem to know to at least make an attempt to understand the technologies that you are talking about? Worthless blabber.
Hint: the phone is not the endpoint of the browsing session - the phone is a remote terminal for a server that is the endpoint of the browsing session
Wow, what are next weeks lotto numbers? You apparently not only know I'm wrong, but you know exactly what's in my card agreement.
You are saying that it says that you have "zero liability limit for unauthorized use" yet you are missing the fact that we arent talking about your cards use. We are talking about your account being drained through a simple electronic transfer while you still have possession of your card. Surely your contract also tells you that you have zero liability for unauthorized electronic transfers, right?
..and surely it defined "unauthorized" as "everything that he claimed he didnt authorize"
You are a fool that will one day be parted with your money, and will cry about corporations screwing you over and not living up to their contracts.. when in fact you were just a fool that attributed more to a contract than was actually in it.
HTTP/SSL was originally meant to ensure only the two parties involved in the transaction
..and originally no mobile phone had the necessary processing power to render web pages, and originally mobile bandwidth wasnt enough to even receive web page data at acceptable rates.
As a point of fact, originally web browsing on mobile devices didn't work at all without such services as nokia is still providing. Its why opera was still the worlds number one mobile browser maker by a very significant margin right up until this year when androids browser finally overtook them. You sit there in the lap of luxury completely ignorant of your own past, and don't even realize that you are complaining about others being able to browse the web at all because they still do not sit in the lam of luxury like you do.
In the case of debit cards, thats in the event of the card being stolen, and you reporting it in a timely manner.
We arent talking about the card being stolen. We are talking about the cards information being copied and abused, and in the case of a debit card, the cards information are the keys to your checking account. Thats not a debit transaction that took all your money.
If your credit and debit cards have RFID's so many years after they were discovered to be flawed and a huge security risk, then maybe you are a complete idiot.
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Sell it this way:
If the plain truth doesn't convince enough people to support your policy, then the problem is your policy.
Stop being dishonest fucks.
I'd rather them raise the cap and actually look at petitions than leave it low and just give lip service to them.
This isnt the dichotomy we are presented with.
What they are doing is raising the cap while continuing to not look at any petitions seriously.
My challenge to slashdot is to cite a single We The People petition that was actually taken seriously by the administration.
Well, let's take HD7750 into account. Almost as fast as GTX650, lower power consumption and there are several passive cooled HD7750 cards out there.
Yes, 55 watts vs 64 watts, and almost as fast. But the 650 is almost as fast as the 7770.
Using the passmark GPU rating, and current NewEgg cheapest price:
HD 7770 - 2133 - $115 - 80W TDP
GTX 650 - 1809 - $110 - 64W TDP
HD 7750 - 1577 - $90 - 55W TDP
The passmark rating per watt for each respectively is 26.7, 28.3, 28.7
The passmark rating per dollar for each respectively is 18.5, 16.4, 17.5
All of these are basically right in line with each other, give or take a smidgen, and all have passively cooled variants. Above these is a big jump in TDP and quite often cost as well. I've been eying the price of cards like these for quite some time as a possible noise and performance upgrade for my aging 8800 GT (105W TDP)
I don't know about the high performance cards, but a HD7770 can run circles around the similarily priced GTX650 cards.
Anyone that can run the HD 6850 will do so over either the GTX 650 or the HD 7770 because its only a few bucks more than either and beats both in performance.
This is an awkward spot in the market for consumers because for the TDP budget that the GTX 650 and HD 7770 target you really cannot get much higher performance at any dollar cost. In that regard, these are top-shelf flagship products that just happen to cost only $100.
The HD 7770 uses 32% more power than the GTX 650, so its not really a surprise that it performs better. What is a surprise is that it doesnt perform so much better as to be the obvious choice.
The GTX 650 is 64 watt TDP while the HD 7770 is 80 watt TDP.
The HD 6850 that easily beats both and is only slightly more expensive than either is 127 watts TDP.
The market for these two cards isn't the performance per dollar market.
This is spot on but let me give my observation of when and why this is true.
Your comment example eludes to the operation being performed, but far more importantly it is documenting the data being used and generated.
Operations should be self-documenting. The function names and variable names, as well as the structure of expressions and flow control, should all conspire to inform the programmer about what steps are being performed as clearly as possible.
Comments on the other hand should conspire to keep the programmer informed about the nature of the data being juggled by those operations.
In this way, a local understanding of the program doesnt require a global inspection. None of this is being done to help the programmer on the day he writes the code. It is always done to help a programmer that does not have a fresh internalized global model of the program either because its been months or years since he write it, or because someone else wrote it.
Among other problems with your argument, you have also forgotten that there is a clock.
It is mathematically proven to be unsolveable within finite time
Every game ends in a finite number of moves, therefore the permutation of all games is also finite.
You post basically confuses the fuck out of anyone who wants to know how they *should* be responding to news of a suicide.
How about honestly, instead of in some measured manner meant to influence other people in ways that arent honest.
You shouldn't need to be told this at this point in your life.
"The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance." - Robert Coveyou.
Why go through the expense of blowing up planets when you can kill civilians, citizens even, without any due process.
Actually it's exactly the big corps that have the legislators in their pockets.
Its thinking like this that prevents anything from being done about it. The corporations don't hold the keys, the politicians do. The politicians are on control, and all by themselves sell the fruits of that control to corporations. Nobody is forcing them to. They do it willingly. Get it? They are fucking you willingly, for their own benefit.
Car analogy:
A passenger gets into a taxi cab and offers money to the the driver to drive to a specific destination.
Everyone agrees that the taxi driver is still ultimately in control, that the passenger is just making an offer for services. So too, the politicians are ultimately in control, that the corporations are just making an offer for services.
If the cab driver absolutely refused to drive to a specific location, then the cab would never go to that location no matter how many times the passenger asked. So too, if the politician absolutely refused to trade his powers for corporate favor, then rent-seeking laws such as what the RIAA/MPAA get away with would never get passed.
Hold the politicians responsible. Don't vote for the corrupt ones, ever, and be vocal about why you aren't doing so. If everyone on the ballot is a corrupt son-of-a-bitch, write in your own name, and if thats not an option, write "fuck you too" on the ballot.
Yes, but there is nothing that prevents me from converting every dollar I make, immediately to bitcoins, and changing some of my bitcoins back into US dollars only on April 15th to pay my taxes.
Sure there is. market forces prevent people from doing this. If everyone did it, bitcoins would crash just before tax time every single year.
It is appalling how corporations, mostly US based, have managed to get everybody working to protect their interests. Ofc, they could not have done that alone, they have the US Gov that throws its weight around if need arises. They basically have every police dept. working to enforce copyright/DMCA and whatever else they cook up. This might be all fine and dandy if those corporations would bother to pay taxes in the countries they do business in. As it turns out, most of the time, they manage to skip paying them.
The corporations want you to keep blaming them, because that way the people that are selling legislation and influence can continue to sell legislation and influence to them.
I cannot believe that so many people dont get it, and convince themselves that blaming the people that arent in control is somehow the correct way to operate their protest.
"the law was financed and pushed by the United States"
Heaven forbid the Kiwis take responsibility for the laws they enact...
The guilty party is the government for trading legislation for favors/money/etc.
(yes, Americans should also take responsibility for the laws they enact instead of blaming corporations)
Actually, like most countries the U.S. backs its currency with the authority to tax .
The dollar has value because it can pay a dollars worth of taxes.
When Germany jumped into the eurozone, adoption of the euro was extremely slow until the year that Germany required all taxes be paid in euros, and in that year almost everyone converted.
Listen kiddo, I was on the internet before it was the internet
So you might be older than me, but still probably not.
Blah blah blah. The girl that waved her dick when challenged.
The world moved on. So did cell phones, which were originally the size of bricks and had an LED readout and the signal washed out whenever you revved your engine. What Nokia has here may have been relevant back when dinosaurs still roamed the Earth, but today I can buy an SOC chip at retail price for under $30 that'll render 1080p video at 30 FPS and has several gigs of ram on it and a helluva lot more storage.
See how fucking myopic you are? Nokia makes phones for the entire world, where GSM is still the predominant standard (80%) and $30 is half a years wage for hundreds of millions of people.
The world didn't move on. You did. Don't attribute to the entire world all the luxury that you have.
I know this is slashdot and we do not read much what people so that we can rant and seem smart. But come on, it is written in TFS and TFT (the F-ing title). "Nokia admits decrypting user data."
Would you rather they didnt encrypt the data and sent it over the air like that instead?
You claim to know that this is slashdot, but dont seem to know to at least make an attempt to understand the technologies that you are talking about? Worthless blabber.
Hint: the phone is not the endpoint of the browsing session - the phone is a remote terminal for a server that is the endpoint of the browsing session
Wow, what are next weeks lotto numbers? You apparently not only know I'm wrong, but you know exactly what's in my card agreement.
You are saying that it says that you have "zero liability limit for unauthorized use" yet you are missing the fact that we arent talking about your cards use. We are talking about your account being drained through a simple electronic transfer while you still have possession of your card. Surely your contract also tells you that you have zero liability for unauthorized electronic transfers, right?
..and surely it defined "unauthorized" as "everything that he claimed he didnt authorize"
You are a fool that will one day be parted with your money, and will cry about corporations screwing you over and not living up to their contracts.. when in fact you were just a fool that attributed more to a contract than was actually in it.
HTTP/SSL was originally meant to ensure only the two parties involved in the transaction
As a point of fact, originally web browsing on mobile devices didn't work at all without such services as nokia is still providing. Its why opera was still the worlds number one mobile browser maker by a very significant margin right up until this year when androids browser finally overtook them. You sit there in the lap of luxury completely ignorant of your own past, and don't even realize that you are complaining about others being able to browse the web at all because they still do not sit in the lam of luxury like you do.
Amazon Silk and Opera mini clearly states that every single connexion goes through them in clear. I do not think nokia does.
ok, you "do not think"
My ISP does not do that. When I negogiate an HTTPS session, my ISP does not intercept it and perform a MITM attack. apparently nokia does.
Wow.. in two lines you went from "I do not think" to "apparently nokia performs a MITM attack"
In the case of debit cards, thats in the event of the card being stolen, and you reporting it in a timely manner.
We arent talking about the card being stolen. We are talking about the cards information being copied and abused, and in the case of a debit card, the cards information are the keys to your checking account. Thats not a debit transaction that took all your money.
It's not my liability.
Who convinced you of that?
Yes, and the GP is explaining what it proves to him...
"... ridiculously un-useful."
If your credit and debit cards have RFID's so many years after they were discovered to be flawed and a huge security risk, then maybe you are a complete idiot.