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Canadian Researchers Debut PaperTab, the Paper-Thin Tablet

redletterdave writes "The PaperTab, which looks and feels just like a sheet of paper, may one day overtake today's tablet. Developed by researchers at the Human Media Lab at Queen's University in Ontario, Canada, the PaperTab features a flexible, high-resolution 10.7-inch plastic touchscreen display built by Plastic Logic, the company borne from Cambridge University's Cavendish Laboratory, and relies on a second-generation Intel Core i5 processor to turn what looks like a sheet of white paper into a living, interactive display. Unlike typical tablets akin to Apple's iPad, the idea of PaperTab is to use one app at a time, per PaperTab. To make tasks easier, users would own 10 or more PaperTabs at once and lay them out to their liking; with multiple tablets to separate your applications, PaperTab relies on an interface that allows you to combine and merge elements from disparate applications with intuitive dragging, dropping, pointing, and folding."

142 comments

  1. Apple invented paper. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Apple invented paper.

    1. Re:Apple invented paper. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only paper with rounded corners.

    2. Re:Apple invented paper. by Cryacin · · Score: 2

      Ahhhh. Papercut!

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    3. Re:Apple invented paper. by binarylarry · · Score: 0

      What?

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    4. Re:Apple invented paper. by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Maybe it could have the 45 degree bevelled corners of Battlestar Galactica fame. Then we could be sued by Universal instead.

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    5. Re:Apple invented paper. by flargleblarg · · Score: 1

      Battlestar Galactica invented paper with octagonal corners.

    6. Re:Apple invented paper. by rwa2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      http://memegenerator.net/instance/24860964

      [Get called fat lazy and stupid by other countries; beat them at the olympics and land on Mars]

    7. Re:Apple invented paper. by vlad30 · · Score: 1

      No it will be Tribune entertainment and Gene Roddenberry estate for copying the flexies from Andromeda which strangely also had one function per sheet

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    8. Re:Apple invented paper. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    9. Re:Apple invented paper. by jaavaaguru · · Score: 1

      No - cut, along with copy & paste will come in version 2.

    10. Re:Apple invented paper. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why Apple will own that University in six months.

    11. Re:Apple invented paper. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      http://memegenerator.net/instance/24860964

      [Get called fat lazy and stupid by other countries; beat them at the olympics and land on Mars]

      Yes because a few exceptional individuals definitely erases all those tens of millions of lardasses. Sure. Right. Hey, you're quite the statistician!

      Have you SEEN the obesity stats? Did you bother to look them up with a 2-sec google search before writing a comment? Of course not! You're a fat intellectually lazy American.

    12. Re:Apple invented paper. by dinfinity · · Score: 1

      http://www.medalspercapita.com/
      http://www.medaltracker.eu/
      I guess it depends on how you look at it.

      The Mars thing is pretty awesome though. But what was that thing about having to borrow satellites from Germany?

    13. Re:Apple invented paper. by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      At least until they decided they couldn't be bothered to put any effort into things like props or actually having a decent, coherent story.

    14. Re:Apple invented paper. by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Heh, not trying to be patriotic or anything (eagle-on-flag meme notwithstanding)... just popped into my head as a quick way to point out the fallacy of buying too much into stereotypes and "conventional wisdom" spouted by one of the downmodded AC trolls, who was obviously already quite bitter.

  2. Grammar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Good to see our editors proof read: "may one today overtake today's tablet."

    1. Re:Grammar? by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

      /. editors were replaced years ago with the following shell script:

      ~> more slashdot_editor.sh

      #!/bin/sh
      echo 'Looks good!'

    2. Re:Grammar? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      "The PaperTab may one today overtake today's tablet." What's wrong with the grammar?? It looks fine to me.

  3. Hopefully they go wireless... by DaemonDan · · Score: 1

    Because it would suck to have that many wires connecting all the PaperTabs together. And while it's flexibility makes it less likely to break when dropped, isn't there a risk of it being torn, or mistaken for regular paper and thrown away or shredded?

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    1. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by Osgeld · · Score: 4, Interesting

      where do you put the battery, where do you put the wifi or cel hardware, where do you put the cpu that is currently sitting on the floor, why does my 800mhz rooted nook simple touch have a faster touch response than an i5?

    2. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wireless power? Wireless transmission? :p

    3. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by ProzacPatient · · Score: 2

      Mind you what they're showing obviously appears to be a prototype; a proof-of-concept.
      I imagine that if this thing were to hit production that it would definitely improve; thinner consolidated cables (if any), faster refresh rate, etc..

      It might not exactly be bleeding edge but it's very promising!

    4. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      goes where

      wireless
      ???
      paper

      please

    5. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The wires are what lets them do it.

      Basically each 'tablet' is just a display, with all other hardware removed. The wires are connected to an actual CPU, which does all the processing, etc.

      In other words, these guys bought a display and wired it up. Woohoo.

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    6. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by mumblestheclown · · Score: 1

      Thank you, captain obvious.

    7. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by docmordin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Including a processor on the backside of the PaperTab wouldn't likely be a huge problem, as there are multiple research groups investigating ultralow-power, flexible, organic electronics, e.g.,

      G. H. Gelinck, et al., "Flexible active matrix displays and shift registers based on solution-processed organic transistors", Nature Mater., 3: 106, 2004
      K. Nomura, et al., "Room-temperature fabrication of transparent flexible thin-film transistors using amorphous oxide semiconductors", Nature, 432: 488-492, 2004
      B. Yoo, et al., "High-performance solution-deposited n-channel organic transistors and their complementary circuits", Adv. Mater., 19: 4028, 2007
      H. Klauk, et al., "Ultralow-power organic complementary circuits", Nature, 445: 745, 2007
      W. Xiong, et al., "A 3-V, 6-bit C-2C digital-to-analog converter using complementary organic thin-film transistors on glass", IEEE J. Solid State Circuits, 45: 1380-1388, 2010
      H. Marien, et al., "A fully integrated delta sigma ADC in organic thin-film transistor technology on flexible plastic foil", IEEE J. Solid State Circuits, 46: 276-284, 2011
      K. Myny, et al., "Unipolar organic transistor circuits made robust by dual-gate technology", IEEE J. Solid State Circuits, 46: 1223-1230, 2011
      K. Myny, et al., "An 8-bit, 40-instructions-per-second organic microprocessor on plastic foil", IEEE J. Solid State Circuits, 47: 284-291, 2012

      Beyond that, there are already flexible batteries on the market.

    8. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And while it's flexibility

      "its".

    9. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by fnj · · Score: 2

      there are already flexible batteries on the market

      They aren't even close to being paper thin, and never will be (for useful output).

    10. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by fnj · · Score: 1

      Yeah. They've invented the "monitor". Big whoop.

    11. Re:Hopefully they go wireless... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      And didn't even invent it lol, they bought it!

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  4. Video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81iiGWdsJgg&feature=player_embedded

    1. Re:Video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This looks like the retarded desktop analogy, gone waaaayyyy too far. That analogy is *not* a good thing. A computer is *way* more powerful than that analogy. The analogy is crippling its power!

    2. Re:Video by louisgarcia1 · · Score: 1

      Nice Video

  5. Epaper and OLED has always been flexible by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    since the day they were born in the lab, but there is more to a computer than its display, wheres the flexible and paper thin battery, the flexible core i5, the flexible ram rom and flash?

    1. Re:Epaper and OLED has always been flexible by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "since the day they were born in the lab, but there is more to a computer than its display, wheres the flexible and paper thin battery, the flexible core i5, the flexible ram rom and flash?"

      They are in the basement computer, doing all the work and sending the result to the screen, like ...how would you call it... a thin client. :-)

    2. Re:Epaper and OLED has always been flexible by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      yep, and the last time I checked paper wasn't tethered to the floor

    3. Re:Epaper and OLED has always been flexible by tooyoung · · Score: 3, Insightful

      wheres the flexible and paper thin battery, the flexible core i5, the flexible ram rom and flash?

      They are in the basement computer, doing all the work and sending the result to the screen, like ...how would you call it... a thin client. :-)

      Oh, cool! So the thin client doesn't even need a battery?

    4. Re:Epaper and OLED has always been flexible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really no. You can use a coil and transmit the energy through the air. Another way of doing it is to use one of those flexible photovoltaic cells.

    5. Re:Epaper and OLED has always been flexible by tooyoung · · Score: 1

      You can use a coil and transmit the energy through the air. Another way of doing it is to use one of those flexible photovoltaic cells.

      Wow, the energy needs of the thin client can be met real time by current energy transmitting and photovoltaic cell technology without requiring a battery to store up a charge! This gets even better than I thought!

    6. Re:Epaper and OLED has always been flexible by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Possibly. Bear in mind that e-ink is not active display. A thin capacitor could feasibly store enough charge to work in bursts.

  6. John Cleese to the white courtesy phone. by mjwx · · Score: 4, Funny

    the Paper-Thin Tablet

    But sir, it's paper-thin.

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    1. Re:John Cleese to the white courtesy phone. by Molochi · · Score: 1

      I think I'm going to throw up? /Mr Creosote

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  7. Display, not tablet by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We've had nice paper thin displays for years now. But a thin display doesn't mean a thin tablet. Until we have thin CPUs and thin RAM sticks, and thin flash memory and thin connectors, we aren't going to have a paper thin tablet.

    When you get all the components you need for a tablet you end up with something just as thick as what we've got on shelves today. By no means thick, but not paper-thin.

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    1. Re:Display, not tablet by rossdee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about a paper thin battery. (Thats going to last more than a few minutes)

    2. Re:Display, not tablet by samkass · · Score: 1

      We've had nice paper thin displays for years now. But a thin display doesn't mean a thin tablet. Until we have thin CPUs and thin RAM sticks, and thin flash memory and thin connectors, we aren't going to have a paper thin tablet.

      When you get all the components you need for a tablet you end up with something just as thick as what we've got on shelves today. By no means thick, but not paper-thin.

      Yup. If you've ever looked inside an iPad you know it's basically a huge battery with a couple of circuits and display tacked on.

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    3. Re:Display, not tablet by Lucky75 · · Score: 1

      Actually, they're pretty close on that front.

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    4. Re:Display, not tablet by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      and none of it is flexible as an assembled product

      even if you took the ipad guts out of its case, and laminated it in plastic, it isn't going to move much

    5. Re:Display, not tablet by Nyder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, they're pretty close on that front.

      A battery that last more then a few minutes? Sweet, about time.

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    6. Re:Display, not tablet by m00sh · · Score: 1

      We've had nice paper thin displays for years now. But a thin display doesn't mean a thin tablet. Until we have thin CPUs and thin RAM sticks, and thin flash memory and thin connectors, we aren't going to have a paper thin tablet.

      All that can be squeezed into a quarter sized "paper-clip" or a stiff spline.

      When you get all the components you need for a tablet you end up with something just as thick as what we've got on shelves today. By no means thick, but not paper-thin.

      And that is why the whole video is about the UI aspect of using paper thin tablets and not about the technology of paper thinness.

      The topic should probably have been called new UI for using multiple tablets on a desk. Plus, new bending gestures when the display is thin.

    7. Re:Display, not tablet by Jmc23 · · Score: 1
      How is this insightful?

      A trivial way of setting it up is having the papertabs being dumb displays, why, sort of exactly how they have them right now. They're just eink so require very little power, easy to setup with wireless power transmission. Some genius will figure out how exactly to send binary encoded data for the display that will combine the receiving of the data with the powering of the unit, each data pulse more energy. Have a hub that communicates to all the displays, keeps track of them, etc...

      The base and, lets say, 5-10 papertabs could come in a carrying unit the same size as a regular tablet, but you could pull out individual tabs and use them within a certain distance of the base.

      Come on guys, it's not rocket science.

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    8. Re:Display, not tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, we had polymer capacitor batteries for years now, that are basically a two-layer sheet of plastic foil that you can bend, cut to size (yes, seriously), attach contacts and charge. Since it's a capacitor, it charges in seconds. The only problem left was that like all capacitors, it lost its charge too quickly. But we're currently pretty close to fixing that.

    9. Re:Display, not tablet by quantaman · · Score: 1

      We've had nice paper thin displays for years now. But a thin display doesn't mean a thin tablet. Until we have thin CPUs and thin RAM sticks, and thin flash memory and thin connectors, we aren't going to have a paper thin tablet.

      When you get all the components you need for a tablet you end up with something just as thick as what we've got on shelves today. By no means thick, but not paper-thin.

      Yes and no.

      You're still going to need something big and bulky to house all the non-display bits, but they don't need to be with the screen.

      Assuming the tech is up to it you could make something like a projector screen, walk around with your tablet contained in a tube, then when you want to use it unroll the screen and start away. Might actually work better as a phone, instead of choosing between a tiny innocuous talk-only phone, and a big ungainly smart phone, you could have the best of both worlds, a little tube to carry around that can unravel into a big smartphone screen.

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    10. Re:Display, not tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We've had nice paper thin displays for years now. But a thin display doesn't mean a thin tablet.

      This. What's more, a paper-thin plastic display does NOT "look like a sheet of white paper."

      This thing looks like a step in the right direction, but what I want is something that actually resembles a pad of paper - in appearance, color, reflectivity, texture, and friction coefficient, and displays content in black-on-white. Not something that looks like a page protector and displays things in dark-gray-on-light-gray.

    11. Re:Display, not tablet by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      Surely there's an application for piezo electronics in there somewhere? If you use a truly low-power display tech (e-ink, presumably), couldn't you harvest a bit of kinetic energy out of the flexing of the "paper" and use that to keep the capacitor topped up?

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    12. Re:Display, not tablet by martin-boundary · · Score: 1
      There's absolutely no reason why a paper thin tablet needs to have RAM, CPU, battery and peripheral connectors. All it needs is one connector, for a cable that attaches to an external computer. Make that computer as big as an MP3 player or at most a phone, and you're set: you can keep the computer in your pocket, and have the screen (only) be the tablet.

      People already keep their music players in a pocket, and put up with cables that end in earplugs. Same principle.

    13. Re:Display, not tablet by Solandri · · Score: 1

      If you open up a modern tablet, most of the electronics are crammed into a sliver of PCB. Most of the remaining space is taken up by the battery. Presumably if the battery requirements can be reduced (or battery tech improves), you could put the electronics and battery into a thin bar along one edge of the screen.

      My prediction is we're going to have "scroll" tablets - the electronics and battery will be housed in a cylindrical tube, and the screen is rolled around it for storage. When you want to use it, simply unroll the screen. This can also give you multiple screen sizes in one. e.g. If the tube is 6" long, you can unroll 3.5" of the screen to get something about the size of a modern 7" tablet. Unroll it 10" to get something equivalent to a 11.6" tablet. And unroll it 14" for a 2.35:1 widescreen display for viewing movies in completely native format.

    14. Re:Display, not tablet by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      You could. But since we're throwing out the idea of a backlight, wouldn't it make more sense to use a photovoltaic of some sort? There's flexible/thin ones being made that could easily provide enough power for an e-ink display, especially when coupled with a capacitor to store the power.

      The real hassle isn't in powering the display. It's not even in having a wireless receiver for what to show on the screen. It's in the input device. It requires a *lot* more power to transmit wirelessly than it does to receive, not to mention the power it would take to actually run a capacitive or resistive touch screen.

    15. Re:Display, not tablet by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      Well if you put the processor in a wrist-watch format, it might be close enough for passive NFC powering a touch-sensitive array...?

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  8. The actual link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since the douchetard du jour forgot to, I guess it's up to old Anonymous Cowherd to link to the actual website (rather than the warmed-over blogruel we were served):

    http://www.humanmedialab.org/papertab

    You can thank me by clicking 'reply' and composing a note of thanks.

    1. Re: The actual link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Uh, thanks, I guess.

      The IBT is hardly your average, run-of-the-mill blog, but is a well-established online business news outlet. In fact, TFA happens to post a link to the company in the FIRST line.

      I'd rather read an established media article on a new product, which contains a link to the company/product in question. At least that way, there is a fighting chance of reading something other than a company's advertisement.

      BTW if there was ever a piece of prose that deserved to be credited to a "douchetard du jour" it is certainly yours.

      Thanks?

    2. Re: The actual link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think by 'thanks' you mean 'fuck off'. Just FYI, using kind words when you clearly mean the opposite makes you sound like an asshole.

      And not for nothing, but summaries with a single link to a blog (sorry, 'online business news outlet') are needlessly aggravating and just mean more work for people that want more of the story, like, say, reading what the inventors have to say and what they have published, or seeing video of it in action. The submitter was a lazy douchetard.

    3. Re: The actual link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think by "the submitter was a lazy douchetard" you mean that you were too lazy to read a single line in TFA which provided a link to the company's advertisement about their product, rather than reading an analysis in the 11th highest rated business news outlet (by alexa).

      You are the lazy douchetard.

    4. Re: The actual link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They took a bunch of these: http://www.plasticlogic.com/technology/
      And hooked it up to some of these: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/core-i5-processor.html
      And then used this type of idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesture_recognition
      To make a video of people doing stuff that you'd expect people to do IF we actually HAD an entire tablet which was self-contained and paper-thin and flexible. Which we don't.

      This is taken directly from their site.

      "For example, PaperTab’s intuitive interface allows a user to send a photo simply by tapping one PaperTab showing a draft email with another PaperTab showing the photo. The photo is then automatically attached to the draft email. The email is sent either by placing the PaperTab in an out tray, or by bending the top corner of the display. Similarly, a larger drawing or display surface is created simply by placing two or more PaperTabs side by side. PaperTab thus emulates the natural handling of multiple sheets of paper by combining thin-film display, thin-film input and computing technologies through intuitive interaction design."

      Meh. At least this will prevent Apple from claiming they invented the idea of merging two displays together.

    5. Re: The actual link by RocketRabbit · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I never click on the headlines - I don't want to be part of Dice Holdings' SEO scheme here, which realistically is what Slashdot has become.

    6. Re: The actual link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a hard time giving ANY respect to a "human media lab" that thinks not using any capital letters is a good thing.

  9. This is it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think we've hit the highest point we can get in terms of slimness.

    Would this be considered a singularity in tablets? Or am I a bit off?

  10. Are they serious? by paxprobellum · · Score: 0

    Did you watch the video? So ridiculously un-useful. Can't see this catching on.

    1. Re:Are they serious? by Lucky75 · · Score: 1

      It's a proof of concept...

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    2. Re:Are they serious? by Rockoon · · Score: 1

      Yes, and the GP is explaining what it proves to him...

      "... ridiculously un-useful."

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    3. Re:Are they serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, then they succeeded. They proved the concept is terrible.

    4. Re:Are they serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you watch the video? So ridiculously un-useful. Can't see this catching on.

      This is more of a concept than anywhere near a final product. so please don't poo-poo it.
      Bill gates said he could never see why any computer would ever conceivably need more than 16kb of ram too. it's best to let technology evolve

    5. Re:Are they serious? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      it's eink displays on wires - thick wires - and ripping off bending ui page switching from other guys.
      while the concept they're "inventing" has been invented before(multiple displays you can use in unison, move around, bump into each other to move data..). the real problem is transfer of power to these sheets. and of course that them being flexible adds little to none value to them. even papers being flexible adds little value to paper in data show/manipulation role - that's why we had clipboards to clip them on!

      as such a concept mentioning even the i5 cpu is utterly pointless, only thing that serves is to fool people into thinking there's actual compute capability in these eink displays.

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    6. Re:Are they serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, well they should evolve it and get back to us when they actually have something that's worth looking at.

      I don't think anyone is really concerned with how they are going to use paper-thin tablets until they are close to, you know, actually having paper-thin tablets.

  11. Chips are WAY thinner then paper by raymorris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They're thinking of the retail packaging all those chips come in. The actual chips are far thinner than paper. Copier paper, for example, is about 100 microns. Chips were 7 microns in 2006. I don't know how much thinner they can be today.
    Intel normally puts a CPU in a casing big enough to handle because there's no reason to make it thinner then paper, but that's just packaging. There's no reason flash memory or other clips couldn't be put in thinner packages. Remember microSD cards containing flash chips have been around since 2005. In 2006, Sandisk sold a 2GB microsd card barely thicker than the plastic packaging.

    1. Re:Chips are WAY thinner then paper by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      there are reasons, heat dissipation being one, and not having to wire bond each chip to a PCB is another, which is kind of a bitch

    2. Re:Chips are WAY thinner then paper by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The thickness of the wafers onto which chips are etched is NOT 7 microns. The standard wafer thickness is about 775um, or just about 1mm. That doesn't count the substrate onto which the electrical connections must be soldered.

      It's also extremely fragile at this thickness, and a big portion of placing it onto a ceramic or organic plastic substrate is so that it doesn't crack.

      With a plain wafer, you can crack it by gently rapping it with your knuckle, or dropping it gently on a hard surface.

      Thickness may not be the issue, but durability is. So is heat dissipation. A modern chip is designed to dissipate heat rapidly, among other things. There are all sort of problems beyond flexibility that plague this particular engineering problem.

    3. Re:Chips are WAY thinner then paper by mirix · · Score: 2

      When they say an IC is developed with a 7um process, that's the resolution of the lithography process. the smallest feature they can make. The die itself is much thicker.

      7 micron is huge, 70's tech. in 2005 they were already down to at least 90nm, maybe smaller. (0.09 um).

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    4. Re:Chips are WAY thinner then paper by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Doesn't Intel have 22nm chips (0.022um)?

    5. Re:Chips are WAY thinner then paper by jtcampbell · · Score: 1

      It's possible to thin wafers right down from the backside after initial manufacture. This is already done for the ICs used in smartcards - apparently the processed wafers are surprisingly flexible.

    6. Re:Chips are WAY thinner then paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean "Chips are WAY thinner than paper."

    7. Re:Chips are WAY thinner then paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on the wafer, CPUs yes, optical devices less so. Also the bend radius is still tens of cm. Paper-thin won't work, postcard maybe.

  12. Does this get any dumber? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So we finally - after a few hundred years - manage to get rid of the majority of pieces of paper cluttering our desktops...

    And now we get to bring them all back? Except they're thicker, and you can't let them touch each other or they do stuff you may not want? And they're all connected with wires? And we don't get color any more? And they will be as comparatively expensive as parchment was, a few hundred years ago?

    So... none of the advantages of paper, and all the usual disadvantages of tech just for the sake of tech?

    Hmmm... I read TFA; but I forgot to check the source. It wasn't The Onion by any chance, was it?

    Mmmph. Capcha: "aborted"

    1. Re:Does this get any dumber? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At first blush it seems like they're inveting a set of problems to solve rather than address the most basic task: accessing, editing, and closing text files.

      Displaying the files is relatively trivial, but how will we intuitively choose and load the files we want, when there are millions to sort through?

      Will we have to type in the name or keywords of the file we want using a (probably crappy and RSI inducing) on screen keyboard,? Or is there some way we can get most of the way there using, say, hierarchies along with simple up/down yes/no input by bending the display?

      The proximity detection / alignment with the drawing was neat, though. Might be useful.

    2. Re:Does this get any dumber? by Osgeld · · Score: 2

      do you prefer to dig though a mile long start menu or do you like clicking that little search box on windows and type in device ma enter?

      they are offering the mile long start menu, where is that document I wanted, oh its over here, now lets open it, move it, embed it, put it away and send an email

      systems we have now, let the computer find it, attach, done.

    3. Re:Does this get any dumber? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who needs multiple displays? One 1920x1080 screen should be enough for anyone.

    4. Re:Does this get any dumber? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      I need a 21 inch display that can fit in my pocket... my regular sized pocket.

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    5. Re:Does this get any dumber? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And now we get to bring them all back? Except they're thicker, and you can't let them touch each other or they do stuff you may not want? And they're all connected with wires? And we don't get color any more? And they will be as comparatively expensive as parchment was, a few hundred years ago?

      You need to think a little beyond what you saw , because what you saw was obviously work in progress. I would expect that further research will lead to smaller packaging, NFC wireless, linked to the desk by a router or concentrator of some sort, color, smaller batteries, etc etc etc...

      All those improvements to make it actually useful will come later.

    6. Re:Does this get any dumber? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So we finally - after a few hundred years - manage to get rid of the majority of pieces of paper cluttering our desktops...

      And now we get to bring them all back?

      No. Current tablet tech can't replace paper. Paper is superior in many instances because you need to have multiple sheets out at one time. This article is the first thing that I've seen that looks like it could actually go a long way toward replacing paper. I'm thinking that a tablet that is essentially an iPad in a folio along with 6 or 8 of these things would be a contender. You'd use the LCD screen for things that need fast updating, and then "print" to the papertabs and pull them out to use them, or have them networked wirelessly with bluetooth or something similar.

  13. Stupid by llZENll · · Score: 1

    The youtube video is worthless, they show off lame functionality that is entirely possible with any current normal tablet, such as extended desktops, tapping to move documents, and location aware features. The only papertab feature is bending the paper to navigate pages, which is error prone, gimmicky, and not worth much. Show me the technology in the papertab on why it is so thin and flexible.

    1. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing the functinality they're aiming for is "having money after buying several tablets".

  14. Enough with the Autoplay by dmomo · · Score: 1

    I left the site immediately once that video started to auto play. This has to stop.

    1. Re:Enough with the Autoplay by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      NoScript/ScriptNo/Adblock help in in that regard.

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  15. disapointed by pbjones · · Score: 1

    they had me hooked, until I saw the cables. They could have used Wireless and a smaller power cable, but it's just another tech demo of never to be seen stuff.

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    1. Re:disapointed by msobkow · · Score: 1

      I suspect that thick bar across the bottom where the wires plug in is also where they've hidden the non-bendable chips for the device. I noticed that the bottom of the sheet didn't bend when they were flipping through the PDF example.

      So this technology is definitely not ready for delivery.

      It also strikes me as incredibly gimmicky. Picking up and shuffling paper is far from intuitive, and I don't want to cover my desk with a bunch of sheets. In the area consumed by my monitor and keyboard, I could fit maybe 4 of those sheets if they were all side by side.

      Worst of all is the dependence on a soft screen keyboard. This would have been far more impressive technology if it would have allowed the user to scribble cursive writing anywhere on the surface and have it automatically converted to text.

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  16. Patents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I cannot wait, in 10 years we will get to see apple say they invented this and the patent office will happily give them a patent for it.

  17. Do not want... by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure, it's cool that it's paper thin... but a) it's black and white, not color; and b) the refresh rate, if the video is any indication, seems abysmal for anything but static displays.

    Can somebody please tell me what possible advantage this has over an e-ink reader?

    1. Re:Do not want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was a proof of concept demonstration R&D let's see what can be done type of thing, not a full blown robust production design.

      Capcha: permit

    2. Re:Do not want... by mumblestheclown · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What POSSIBLE advantage might the eventual production outcomes of this R&D prototype have? If you can't see that you are suffering from a severe lack of imagination.

    3. Re:Do not want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can somebody please tell me what possible advantage this has over an e-ink reader?

      Weight, size, and potentially cost.

      The base could be the table. The table could emit a magnetic field for power and allow for wireless transfer of data. These pieces of "digital paper" would then not require a battery nor would they require any processing power. They could be made thin and cheap even with today's technology. Assuming the display is as good as an e-ink display, it would allow for a pretty cool workstation. Combine it with a traditional computer + display and you could "drag" your PDF files from your computer onto a piece of digital paper for reading.

    4. Re:Do not want... by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

      Can somebody please tell me what possible advantage this has over an e-ink reader?

      Better yet, what possible advantage does this have over scribblings on a paper?

  18. How is this better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Pretty neat, but I can't for the life of me see how this would be "better" in any way than either a normal tablet or a desktop computer. The gesture controls they showed - bending the side or corner - are hardly intuitive, and why would I want a mess of those laying all over my desk? How is tapping my email to an "outbox" easier than clicking send? I think they are on the wrong track with how they envision using the technology.

    Assuming they could make them entirely self contained and cheap enough to be semi-disposable, they would make a great replacement for paper.

    1. Re:How is this better by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      I find that my computer navigation "shortcircuits" when I get tired, in a way that's kind of analogous to focal dystonia, but in a purely mental way, not a muscular problem. I know what task I want to achieve, and I move my mouse, but I click on the wrong icon genuinely believing it'll do what I want. Example: I'm playing Minesweeper, I've identified that there's a mine on a square and I go to flag it, but I press the wrong button. Computer commands are very abstract, and are very minimally different. A physical interface paradigm takes advantage of muscle memory to give us more context for, and consciousness of, or actions.

      If you look at the history of windowed UIs, the whole point was to make something as close to physical as possible -- they used to talk about "direct manipulation" lots. That's why it was all drag-and-drop in the early days, but as always, they discovered that abstract is quicker, but modern windowed UIs are abstract without much linguistic content.

      Which is just a fancy way of saying that real geeks use CLI.

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  19. Great... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    > the idea of PaperTab is to use one app at a time, per Papertab. To make tasks easier, users would own 10 or more PaperTabs at once and lay them out to their liking; with multiple tablets to separate your applications,

    Wonderful. Windows 8, except in a bunch of separate devices.

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    1. Re:Great... by GonzoPhysicist · · Score: 1

      Bind them together in a book, you could put the other electronics in the spine. Then they might be onto something.

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    2. Re:Great... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      But if you're going to go to all that trouble, why not have one screen that can browse through multiple pages. Like... a tablet?

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  20. Just make sure... by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    Just make sure that you are holding the paper correctly or it won't work!

  21. Metro Mobile? by PmanAce · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't want the wind to blow away my manual Metro layout.

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  22. Just because you can... by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 1

    ...doesn't mean you should.

    I'm laughing at the pedantic irony in 10 PaperTabs to get any work done.

  23. I don't get it by AlphaBro · · Score: 1

    If this is some sort of eink display as it appears to be, it is going to be useless for anything but reading, and personally I don't want my reader bending and contorting like a flimsy piece of paper. But hey, at least I could lay a bunch of these things out to view large monochrome images or something.

  24. Can I fold it up and stuff it in my pocket? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might be somewhat useful if so. On second thought...looks more like a solution in search of a problem. Or like my first wife, cute but useless.

  25. would you like a mint? by milkmage · · Score: 1

    Maitre D: And finally, monsieur, a paper-thin mint.
    Mr Creosote: No.
    Maitre D: Oh sir! It's only a tiny little thin one.
    Mr Creosote: No. Fuck off - I'm full...
    Maitre D: Oh sir... it's only paper thin.

  26. Looks like a good idea... by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..on paper.

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  27. Concept by TheLink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I prefer a different concept - one where humans are augmented and become superhuman rather than merely the environment becoming magical.

    For example, cameras+ wearable displays + brain-computer interfaces. Control by special gloves, eye-blink gestures, and/or thought-macros. Then the "screen" can be pretty big even though it is physically small and doesn't consume as much power as a huge display.

    Once you have that, you have virtual eidetic memory, virtual telepathy and telekinesis. Most of the tech is there or nearly there. One of the major problems might actually be Copyright Law - it conflicts with having eidetic memory especially if you want to share it with others. The **AA won't be happy with a penny for your thoughts, or their thoughts ;).

    Permanent video+audio recording at low/mid res, with high def/res in a ring buffer (past X minutes), so you can have the past X minutes in high def if you need it for whatever reason. Configurable image and audio recognition. Context awareness (time + location+ surroundings+ history) + super PDA features.

    Military edition might have gun muzzle detection, camouflage countermeasures, automatic "crack-thump" sniper location, UWB radar+comms, range gated vision (the latter two can give away your position to enemies that are suitably equipped[1]).

    [1] That said, electronic devices emit signals that can be detected if you have enough fancy stuff.

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    1. Re:Concept by CCarrot · · Score: 1

      Sounds like someone's been reading Vatta's War by Elizabeth Moon... :)

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    2. Re:Concept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wearing technology on your face just isn't cool and probably won't ever be. there's always the middle age male types who think they look cool with their hands free cell phone ear piece but other than that demographic everyone knows it is stupid. it just looks like men trying to show off how much money they make, and we already have cars and houses for that.

    3. Re:Concept by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Actually I've been waiting for such stuff since the 1990s before those books were written. There were wearable computers back then already. And even Apple came up with the Newton in 1998. In 2000 and 2001 I even tried to do a few things to shift the direction a bit to make things more open (allow for a more open ecosystem to build on) e.g. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yeoh-tldhere-01
      http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8162&cid=716672
      But I failed...

      Sometimes progress seems so slow. Look at this stuff from 50 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZqRJzE8xg
      (and also Douglas Engelbart's Mother of all Demos: http://sloan.stanford.edu/mousesite/1968Demo.html ).
      We haven't really made that much progress in 50 years.

      NASA has been doing reruns of 1960s stuff with new tech and trying to spin it as impressive. They haven't bothered trying to build a real space station where humans can actually live on rather than rot away on. New passenger jets are actually slower than those in the 1970s (but a lot more fuel efficient ;) ).

      Ideas are easy. Implementation, getting mindshare and "buy-in" is the hard part. That's why patents are bad overall and slow down progress. You cannot build something decent using a typical vague and broad patent alone but you can stop someone trying to build something.

      Progress in aerospace, computing, nuclear tech has been rather disappointing to me... There's been some progress in the medical tech front, so it's not all bad.

      Progress in AI has been crap too, but I'm not keen on AI, prefer augmented humans (as mentioned already). We don't treat humans and other animals well, I don't see why we should create real AIs just to enslave and abuse, won't be good for us in many ways.

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    4. Re:Concept by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

      PS3 + LSD?
      The technology is already here!

  28. Inconvenient? by RobbieCrash · · Score: 1

    This seems significantly more inconvenient than tapping icons or photos on a tablet. The extendable display is neat, but I can already do that with my Nexus 7 and my computer with any one of a handfull of apps.

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  29. A4-sized displays by flux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The display seems pretty large. Does this mean we are finally going to get proper devices for reading PDFs?

  30. This is a great idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finnaly some thing useful for school.
    We now can replace the ancient "Kick me in the ass" with plastic tablets that are paper thin.

    Intel please stick to making processors which will be useless soon.
    Cisc is dead FINNALY. Long live Risc.

  31. Wallpaper? by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 2

    Even better, this could lead to wallpaper actually stuck onto a wall. Except more useful as the number of pixels would finally be sufficient for most purposes.

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  32. true ebook by locofungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Couple of hundred of these bound together in a hardback cover, maybe with a processor and memory in the spine, maybe just a connector.

    Kindle is great for fiction, which is linear, but less good for reference books where you often want to flip back and forwards etc.

    Now you can have the space advantages of ebooks with the UI advantages of a proper book.

    Tim.

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    1. Re:true ebook by RivenAleem · · Score: 2

      You could make a really good Guide Book like that. With pages dedicated to certain locations. You could then emboss on the cover some kind of comforting passage for whenever you get lost or into something you can't handle, "Don't Panic" comes to mind.

    2. Re:true ebook by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

      And with wireless connectivity, the contents could be interactive and collaborative. Just the thing for a Young Lady.

      I seriously hope this is not the model flexible-display producers adopt. Yeah, you get some advantages from a bound stack -- quick rough navigation, coarse physical bookmarking -- but you lose the ability to spread a selection of sheets out on a desk. On the other hand, if it's easy to drag a copy of a page onto the desk, which itself is a display surface... nah, the microtransaction fees would kill you.

    3. Re:true ebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would work fine until you want to transfer the content from page 30 to page 50 like the way they show in the demo.

    4. Re:true ebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you probably don't need hundreds of pages like a paper book. Generally the flipping back and forth you do is only between 2, 3, 4 pages at a time. But there may be sets of those 2-4 pages you might want to have static. I think it would be a relevation if there were as few as 10 double sided 'pages' and where you could 'bookmark' together sets of pages.

      But finally someone has highlighted one thing that does paper does so well: it's so cheap and easy to print that you can easily have many pages spread out in front of you a the exact same time. This simply can't happen with a 10" tablet or a 13" laptop screen. Even if you have 4-5 tablets, it would be a hassle to coordinate the displays. And that quantitative difference becomes a major qualitative difference in how information is displayed.

      The black and white thing is fine. It's generally for complex documents and 'paperwork' and other text oriented information that separate sheets of paper are superior. We have two color printers but the B+W laser gets used 98% of the time.

  33. Obvious target: a desktop computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The computer is built into the desk or sits under it, powering the desktop The desktop, the surface of the desk, is a combination of data transfer and inductive charger. You are working with a limited number of "papers" on this desktop. You can arrange them, scribble on them, "cut&paste". They contain just the display and enough flexible electronic to receive the necessary energy and data.

  34. Grey Scale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its DoA. Sorry but this is 2013, it really needs to be color if it wants to be anything other than a proof of concept.

  35. I doubt this will sell ... by 3seas · · Score: 1

    ... its cool and all but it needs a lot of work to bring it successfully to market. getting rid of the woires and then figuring out how to power it, etc...

    1. Re:I doubt this will sell ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, you misspelled "wires"! What are woires!

      HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE!!!

  36. Another CES fail by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    Sure, the idea of a paper based electronic displays is cool, but this product isn't. Looks like a screen stuck in some cheap lamination.

    I don't really see a need for this product in general. A rigid tablet is more usable under many more circumstances and I am sure over the coming years rigid tablets will become slimmer and lighter. Even a tablet that is more like cardboard is more practical then floppy plastic. How about sitting at the beach trying to read a book and having this thing flapping in the wind? How are you doing to do touch with a floppy product unless you lay it down on a rigid surface. You know the first accessory for this product will be a "case" which will simply turn it into a rigid tablet which is what everybody wants.

    I think it is ridiculous seeing a movie where someone reads a multi-page newspaper with dynamic content, folds it up and tucks it under their arm before getting off the train or something. I'd rather not live in some 40's rendition of what the future will look like.

    Just because technology allows you to do something doesn't mean it has to be made. CES 2013 is turning out to be about how companies are failing to use common sense by creating products nobody actually wants, only to say "Gee, look at how cool this useless product is".

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  37. Skeumorphism on crack by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    No, this is just incredibly idiotic. Have one device that does many things. A stack of paper is an awful, inconvenient form and if the computer has a Core i5 and any decent amount of RAM, there's no need to limit it to one application.

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    1. Re:Skeumorphism on crack by coldsalmon · · Score: 1

      Since I've started working with documents in an office, I've come to appreciate the advantages of paper vs. working on a display. The main advantage is space: you're not constrained to a half-meter-square workspace if you're using sheets of paper. You can organize documents spatially. You can write on a sheet of paper with one hand while talking on the phone. You can quickly skim through a stack of documents which would take a long time to open individually on a computer. You can make notes graphically using a pen.

      I always thought we would eventually bring these advantages to electronics by having displays that are as big a desk, and can tilt to a comfortable working angle. This is another solution that may have promise.

    2. Re:Skeumorphism on crack by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      For that purpose it could make sense to have these paper-tablets linked together and able to fold and unfold like a map to allow for more screen area for one multitasking computer, but having a bunch of separate, single-tasking tablets is just simulating the limitations of paper.

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  38. It will never sell, because 34 by cellocgw · · Score: 1

    Rule 34, that is: how is this gadget going to improve access to porn?

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  39. All of you are stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make a book out of this things, processor, ram, and every other non display thing goes on the covers, you don't even need to go wireless since you can attach display cables on the side that is attached to the book.

  40. Can you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...write on it with a pencil?