I don't know about for Java, but VisualWorks Smalltalk (there's a free, non-commercial version for download for Mac OS, Mac OS X, Linux, Windows, many other Unices) that does something like this. Using one single UI builder, you construct a GUI for the traditional GUI application. From the same spec it generates, a web application and interface. You define callbacks and such just like you would for a regular app, and VisualWave (the web app toolkit) takes care of the rest of it.
VisualWorks has had this ability for quite a while, at least 4 years or so, which was the first time I played with it. I don't doubt that there may have been something before it that did the same thing, but it preceeds.NET and probably even a similar Java tool.
What's gsb? I'd think it was a typo, but you mention it multiple times. Is gsb some other debugger derived from gdb that does what gdb doesn't? Or does what gdb does poorly, better?
There are other debuggers for Linux, it's just that no one on Slashdot knows of them, as usual.:) I've no need for C/C++ debuggers personally, but I've seen ads for commercial Linux debuggers that advertise that they can deal with threads very well, probably because the free tools available don't do it well. I don't know the tools, but I've seen ads for them in DDJ and Linux Journal.
He's not asking about what personal techniques you use, but about actual debuggers. He's also not interested in front ends to gdb that inherit the same problems of gdb, and I'm guessing the majority of your duh-go-check-freshmeat debuggers are front ends to gdb, which are just as worthless to the poster. oi.
I don't know of any other non-MM players, but Squeak (see my sig) includes a pretty decent SWF player written completely in Smalltalk. Which means that *all* of the source is available to you and it's a lot more flexible than your average Flash player.
No clue as to with what version of MM's flash it's compatible though. I'm guessing 4, but I've never looked into it.
Not what I said, slow-poke. Read it again, outloud if need be, and the truth will be yours. It's not you are assumption, I'm guessing you mean that it's my assumption.
You can do a lot more with XML-RPC than URL paramters. Some things are better done with URL parameters, yes. But not all of them. XML-RPC also makes it easy to use the data that is returned.
Not talking about the source to the SWF player, Dr. Clever. He's talking about the browser. No source if you're using NS4 or Opera, but a feature like the one is IE which was discussed could easily be added to Mozilla.
Because most of those who read Slashdot, especially the comments, cannot code. Or, they know a wee bit of perl, making them Computer Science and Programming Langauge Linguists, as well as top-notch pundits on most any topic.:) If they actually knew how to code, and spent their time doing it, why, we may have intelligible conversation here! EGADS!
Heh. When I was a wee lad in high school, I was on the policy debate team (LD is for wusses!). A senior on the team used to get these 32 oz. Nalgene bottles full of Mt. Dew syrup and sell it to the caffeine tweaking speech and debate kids. Asked him where he got it, but that was a very closely guarded trade secret at the time.:P
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Whooops. I forgot to mention what Free/Open Source Software I use. The open source software I use for ecology research is: a lot of custom software in Squeak Smalltalk (including a dataset visualizer), CLISP Common Lisp, perl, and gnuplot. On top of Linux sometimes even.
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Indeed. I'm an undergrad doing ecology research with computers. The Bio* (bioperl, biolisp, &c) projects have nothing to do with a lot of other branches of biology and bioinformatics. Perhaps they should all just rename their projects to genetic* (geneticperl, &c).
At least some of bioinformatics stuff (eg bioperl) includes some phylogeny stuff. Or, so I was told by someone on #bioinformatics on OPN.
Heh. I was going to make some of that for my girlfriend, who was starting to drink a SoBe Energy Drink (caffeinated 5-Alive) every morning.
There are a lot of places that provide "research" chemicals online. A lot typically provide to businesses, but can be kajoled into selling to an individual. Also, there are a handful of companies which sell smaller quantities directly to curious consumers. Caffeine is among various Tryptamines, DXM HBr, and others.
Just make sure to get Food or Technical Grade Caffeine powder, which implies a certain (almost 100%) percentage of purity.
As per the tablets, more than just smashing them up. However, that would work, you would just be drinking 3 grams of cornstarch or binder. If it dissolves and doesn't tastebad, I suppose it's not a big deal. Otherwise, if it doesn't dissolve in water, you could extract via water, perhaps 1 tablet per oz- then strain out the binders. You then could take this liquid and add it to a big 20 oz OJ.:) It would be a lot better on your teeth and stomache than coffee or even tea.
There are much better methods, I've seen plenty of extraction procedures in HS/Intro College chemistry. Google around for "caffeine isolation" or something. Probably find info on isolating it from soda and tea as well.
Ewww. Tastes horrible *and* gives you cancer. I mean, shit, I'd rather just drink water if I was on a "diet." And if not, give me real Coke. Better yet, bloodwine.
Indeed. Pretty much everyone likes to feel like they belong. Some of us are lame enough to work towards being a part of a very inclusive group like the "geeks" that they have to make sure to get "geeky" shit. Whatever, whatever splits your bananna.
It's called High School Clique syndrome. You know, the punks, goths, and raver kids that champion individuality, make fun of all the "preps" who "try so hard to fit it" and at the same time, put so much effort into fitting in with their little club.
Not saying it's bad, it's just what humans do, I suppose.
I don't know about you man, but I'd be pissed if everyone got their Bawls for free in a company paid-for fridge. I mean, get some variety at least. Coke. Mt. Dew. Jolt. Beamish Stout. Dr. Slice. Those seem to be other "geek" drinks. That's probably because "geeks" drink the same stuff everyone else does.
Even better, skip the Bawls. It's over-priced. Keep a bunch of lemon-lime soda, grenadine, and freebase caffeine powder [1] on hand, perhaps even mix it for everyone in a pitcher. Throw in a couple sliced oranges for a zesty citrus surprise. Hell, you could have various levels of caffeine per 12-oz glass, 0 mg to 100. Why not?
At work, we have a water fountain and it works great. You know, one of those 5 gallon glug-glug-gluggers of purified water in a bottle, connected upside down to a fountain that dispenses very cool and hot-enough-for-tea water. Can't lose with one of those.
[1] Pure caffeine can be easily isolated from caffeine tablets or ordered from chemical suppliers. Damn cheap.
Heh, Executor way blows. Executor only emulates, reliably, up to Mac OS 6.0.7. Which is older than a lot of readers on Slashdot, literally.
A couple different companies have promised new emulators that can emulate PowerPC, updating their emulators that still only emulate up to a 68040. I know one company that is working on a PPC emulator is: http://www.microcode-solutions.com/
But they certainly don't seem to be in a hurry. Why? I don't think there's much market at all for a good Mac emulator. There isn't much that runs on Mac OS that you can't get an equivalent elsewhere. For those apps that are like that, the performance isn't good enough to use an emulator- so they jujst get a real Mac.:)
> Why would anyone want to buy an AmigaOne just > to run MacOS???
Did you even read the story summary?:P
The AmigaOne runs Linux. There is this prorgam called "Mac-On-Linux" that lets you run Mac OS from *within* Linux. Like VMware on WinDOS or Linux, it emulates/proxies some hardware devices, but does not need to emulate the CPU, so it runs at almost the same speed as if it were running as the real OS.
That is, you're not just buying an AmigaOne to *just* run Mac OS. You're buying an AmigaOne to run Linux, Mac OS, and Amiga apps.
Go back and read the summary and maybe even the article. Mac OS doesn't *replace* Linux or AmigaOS on the AmigaOne. Amiga Inc would have no more motive for making this not work than it would making it so you couldn't run AbiWord. Mac-On-Linux and AbiWord are both just applications that run on Linux.
I believe it is against the EULA on Mac OS 9 to run it on non-Mac hardware. I'm not positive though, but I won't be surprised if/when Apple does try to stop this though. They may not care much as long as MOL can only run up to Mac OS 9 within it's cage, they are fading it out. As soon as Mac OS X is runnable via MOL on *non-Mac* hardware, you can trust that Apple will definately take an interest. Mac OS X is one of the most important reason for buying a Mac, and the best thing Apple has to brag about.
Similarily, if one got Apple's Darwin running on the AmigaOne, which is open source, one could totally run Mac OS X on an AmigaOne. Drivers for the AmigaOne video and input devices would have to be written of course.
That is, who the hell would want to run yet another crappy Linux distro that has built-in AmigaOS emulation when you have Mac OS X!:)
> But, that's not to say those "enlightened few" > can't use the better hardware.
Indeed. It's surprising when you get that "but it's not as popular as such-and-such" even from the Slashdot community, especially those who spend way too much time and energy promoting Linux, which is still not as popular as that other big x86 OS. Oh well, better just abandon ship then, XP is better now... right?:P
MOL doesn't require a ROM. When the original iMac came out (did it happen before with the pre-B G3 towers? I don't know myself) Apple got rid of the ROM on hardware after that. I have no Toolbox ROM in this nice iBook on which I'm typing this. I run Mac-On-Linux (it works quite well, btw), and never once had to do any ROM ripping.
So, if there is no ROM, what happened with those functions? The reason they were in ROM has gone away with much faster RAM, CPUs and disks. So the ROM functions are stored in a loadable library, rather like most function libraries.
Doing research is overrated! Besides, since when has anyone needed to know what they're talking about before they write a post anyway! Oh well, you would've been right if this were 1995. Better than nothing!
The church doesn't want people to starve. Their policies end up promoting that though. They figure their god will feed all these extra babies- but since mr. god isn't feeding them, they obviously don't deserve it. infidels and heathens they must be.
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I don't know about for Java, but VisualWorks Smalltalk (there's a free, non-commercial version for download for Mac OS, Mac OS X, Linux, Windows, many other Unices) that does something like this. Using one single UI builder, you construct a GUI for the traditional GUI application. From the same spec it generates, a web application and interface. You define callbacks and such just like you would for a regular app, and VisualWave (the web app toolkit) takes care of the rest of it.
.NET and probably even a similar Java tool.
VisualWorks has had this ability for quite a while, at least 4 years or so, which was the first time I played with it. I don't doubt that there may have been something before it that did the same thing, but it preceeds
What's gsb? I'd think it was a typo, but you mention it multiple times. Is gsb some other debugger derived from gdb that does what gdb doesn't? Or does what gdb does poorly, better?
:) I've no need for C/C++ debuggers personally, but I've seen ads for commercial Linux debuggers that advertise that they can deal with threads very well, probably because the free tools available don't do it well. I don't know the tools, but I've seen ads for them in DDJ and Linux Journal.
There are other debuggers for Linux, it's just that no one on Slashdot knows of them, as usual.
Aaron
Scroll up. More, all the way up. Read the article. Tkgdb is not what he wants. You may be able to figure out why.
He's not asking about what personal techniques you use, but about actual debuggers. He's also not interested in front ends to gdb that inherit the same problems of gdb, and I'm guessing the majority of your duh-go-check-freshmeat debuggers are front ends to gdb, which are just as worthless to the poster. oi.
I don't know of any other non-MM players, but Squeak (see my sig) includes a pretty decent SWF player written completely in Smalltalk. Which means that *all* of the source is available to you and it's a lot more flexible than your average Flash player.
No clue as to with what version of MM's flash it's compatible though. I'm guessing 4, but I've never looked into it.
Not what I said, slow-poke. Read it again, outloud if need be, and the truth will be yours. It's not you are assumption, I'm guessing you mean that it's my assumption.
You can do a lot more with XML-RPC than URL paramters. Some things are better done with URL parameters, yes. But not all of them. XML-RPC also makes it easy to use the data that is returned.
If you want to see overkill, look at SOAP.
Not talking about the source to the SWF player, Dr. Clever. He's talking about the browser. No source if you're using NS4 or Opera, but a feature like the one is IE which was discussed could easily be added to Mozilla.
> Why aren't you people coding?
:) If they actually knew how to code, and spent their time doing it, why, we may have intelligible conversation here! EGADS!
Because most of those who read Slashdot, especially the comments, cannot code. Or, they know a wee bit of perl, making them Computer Science and Programming Langauge Linguists, as well as top-notch pundits on most any topic.
WOW!
Heh. When I was a wee lad in high school, I was on the policy debate team (LD is for wusses!). A senior on the team used to get these 32 oz. Nalgene bottles full of Mt. Dew syrup and sell it to the caffeine tweaking speech and debate kids. Asked him where he got it, but that was a very closely guarded trade secret at the time. :P
Whooops. I forgot to mention what Free/Open Source Software I use. The open source software I use for ecology research is: a lot of custom software in Squeak Smalltalk (including a dataset visualizer), CLISP Common Lisp, perl, and gnuplot. On top of Linux sometimes even.
Indeed. I'm an undergrad doing ecology research with computers. The Bio* (bioperl, biolisp, &c) projects have nothing to do with a lot of other branches of biology and bioinformatics. Perhaps they should all just rename their projects to genetic* (geneticperl, &c).
At least some of bioinformatics stuff (eg bioperl) includes some phylogeny stuff. Or, so I was told by someone on #bioinformatics on OPN.
Heh. I was going to make some of that for my girlfriend, who was starting to drink a SoBe Energy Drink (caffeinated 5-Alive) every morning.
:) It would be a lot better on your teeth and stomache than coffee or even tea.
There are a lot of places that provide "research" chemicals online. A lot typically provide to businesses, but can be kajoled into selling to an individual. Also, there are a handful of companies which sell smaller quantities directly to curious consumers. Caffeine is among various Tryptamines, DXM HBr, and others.
Just make sure to get Food or Technical Grade Caffeine powder, which implies a certain (almost 100%) percentage of purity.
As per the tablets, more than just smashing them up. However, that would work, you would just be drinking 3 grams of cornstarch or binder. If it dissolves and doesn't tastebad, I suppose it's not a big deal. Otherwise, if it doesn't dissolve in water, you could extract via water, perhaps 1 tablet per oz- then strain out the binders. You then could take this liquid and add it to a big 20 oz OJ.
There are much better methods, I've seen plenty of extraction procedures in HS/Intro College chemistry. Google around for "caffeine isolation" or something. Probably find info on isolating it from soda and tea as well.
So I've noticed. It's like Pledge- but (kind of) safe to drink!
Brain tumors? Is that supposed to make me want to drink that rubbish?
Ewww. Tastes horrible *and* gives you cancer. I mean, shit, I'd rather just drink water if I was on a "diet." And if not, give me real Coke. Better yet, bloodwine.
> We are all Palestinian.
Word up. Such a beautiful way of expressing what I rant to my poor friends who are sick of hearing it from me.
Indeed. Pretty much everyone likes to feel like they belong. Some of us are lame enough to work towards being a part of a very inclusive group like the "geeks" that they have to make sure to get "geeky" shit. Whatever, whatever splits your bananna.
It's called High School Clique syndrome. You know, the punks, goths, and raver kids that champion individuality, make fun of all the "preps" who "try so hard to fit it" and at the same time, put so much effort into fitting in with their little club.
Not saying it's bad, it's just what humans do, I suppose.
I don't know about you man, but I'd be pissed if everyone got their Bawls for free in a company paid-for fridge. I mean, get some variety at least. Coke. Mt. Dew. Jolt. Beamish Stout. Dr. Slice. Those seem to be other "geek" drinks. That's probably because "geeks" drink the same stuff everyone else does.
Even better, skip the Bawls. It's over-priced. Keep a bunch of lemon-lime soda, grenadine, and freebase caffeine powder [1] on hand, perhaps even mix it for everyone in a pitcher. Throw in a couple sliced oranges for a zesty citrus surprise. Hell, you could have various levels of caffeine per 12-oz glass, 0 mg to 100. Why not?
At work, we have a water fountain and it works great. You know, one of those 5 gallon glug-glug-gluggers of purified water in a bottle, connected upside down to a fountain that dispenses very cool and hot-enough-for-tea water. Can't lose with one of those.
[1] Pure caffeine can be easily isolated from caffeine tablets or ordered from chemical suppliers. Damn cheap.
Heh, Executor way blows. Executor only emulates, reliably, up to Mac OS 6.0.7. Which is older than a lot of readers on Slashdot, literally.
:)
A couple different companies have promised new emulators that can emulate PowerPC, updating their emulators that still only emulate up to a 68040. I know one company that is working on a PPC emulator is:
http://www.microcode-solutions.com/
But they certainly don't seem to be in a hurry. Why? I don't think there's much market at all for a good Mac emulator. There isn't much that runs on Mac OS that you can't get an equivalent elsewhere. For those apps that are like that, the performance isn't good enough to use an emulator- so they jujst get a real Mac.
> Why would anyone want to buy an AmigaOne just > to run MacOS???
:P
:)
Did you even read the story summary?
The AmigaOne runs Linux. There is this prorgam called "Mac-On-Linux" that lets you run Mac OS from *within* Linux. Like VMware on WinDOS or Linux, it emulates/proxies some hardware devices, but does not need to emulate the CPU, so it runs at almost the same speed as if it were running as the real OS.
That is, you're not just buying an AmigaOne to *just* run Mac OS. You're buying an AmigaOne to run Linux, Mac OS, and Amiga apps.
Go back and read the summary and maybe even the article. Mac OS doesn't *replace* Linux or AmigaOS on the AmigaOne. Amiga Inc would have no more motive for making this not work than it would making it so you couldn't run AbiWord. Mac-On-Linux and AbiWord are both just applications that run on Linux.
I believe it is against the EULA on Mac OS 9 to run it on non-Mac hardware. I'm not positive though, but I won't be surprised if/when Apple does try to stop this though. They may not care much as long as MOL can only run up to Mac OS 9 within it's cage, they are fading it out. As soon as Mac OS X is runnable via MOL on *non-Mac* hardware, you can trust that Apple will definately take an interest. Mac OS X is one of the most important reason for buying a Mac, and the best thing Apple has to brag about.
Similarily, if one got Apple's Darwin running on the AmigaOne, which is open source, one could totally run Mac OS X on an AmigaOne. Drivers for the AmigaOne video and input devices would have to be written of course.
That is, who the hell would want to run yet another crappy Linux distro that has built-in AmigaOS emulation when you have Mac OS X!
> But, that's not to say those "enlightened few"
:P
> can't use the better hardware.
Indeed. It's surprising when you get that "but it's not as popular as such-and-such" even from the Slashdot community, especially those who spend way too much time and energy promoting Linux, which is still not as popular as that other big x86 OS. Oh well, better just abandon ship then, XP is better now... right?
MOL doesn't require a ROM. When the original iMac came out (did it happen before with the pre-B G3 towers? I don't know myself) Apple got rid of the ROM on hardware after that. I have no Toolbox ROM in this nice iBook on which I'm typing this. I run Mac-On-Linux (it works quite well, btw), and never once had to do any ROM ripping.
So, if there is no ROM, what happened with those functions? The reason they were in ROM has gone away with much faster RAM, CPUs and disks. So the ROM functions are stored in a loadable library, rather like most function libraries.
Doing research is overrated! Besides, since when has anyone needed to know what they're talking about before they write a post anyway! Oh well, you would've been right if this were 1995. Better than nothing!
The church doesn't want people to starve. Their policies end up promoting that though. They figure their god will feed all these extra babies- but since mr. god isn't feeding them, they obviously don't deserve it. infidels and heathens they must be.
> I'm not sure whether I should laugh, or cry.
:P
Like all good things in life!
But no, we don't dress up like Klingons or whisper kinky klingon phrases when nekked. We *very* far from being that nerdy.