Hmmm, I haven't seen somebody being so gleeful about someone else having business other than commenting on/., but I can assure you, no amount of socialist propaganda can confuse me.
We slashed taxes so that we could no longer afford our spending and had to borrow.
- the pathetic slash of taxes you are referring to is more than offset by all the inflation, which taxes not only your latest income, but also your entire net worth. Do not confuse the words that come out of the gov't with reality.
It's not just the taxes that must be slashed, it must be the SPENDING that must be slashed. 99.9% of gov't must be fired. Only then the healing can start.
, keeping your investment bank from acting as your trusted advisor and your adversary
- wouldn't have even been an issue if FDIC was never created, and gov't didn't prop up their financial monster monopolies.
We slashed trade barriers to send jobs to countries with 1/8th the wages.
- earth to AC, you didn't have a choice. The imbalance in overall economy of the world had started the massive outflow of capital, it was only a matter of time that all capital would have left.
Removing trade barriers is only part of the answer, the real answer is to allow the economy to restructure, but that requires removal of 99.9% of gov't.
We killed regulations protecting union organization
- the private sector companies, that weren't gov't monopolies and that had unions there went bankrupt anyway. The unions are only active in gov't monopolies and in gov't itself, because those were the only entities big enough to sustain that kind of financial abuse. At this point even those institutions are no longer big enough.
We made it legal for corporations to spend unlimited quantities of anonymous cash to buy elections.
- there is no problem with this. The real problem is that gov't has authority to mandate the economic outcomes for any entities.
I left a number of comments on the solution to this problem previously, they are right there.
I am pretty sure he actually reads my posts, not the other way around. I prefer Jon Stewart's show and I do watch Maddow because I often need a real laugh.
I didn't miss the point, the point is that just now you have commented with a flamebait but not moded accordingly, while my comments are marked as a 'troll' or 'flamebait' all over the last couple of stories, simply because my message is unpleasant to so many, but while it may be unpleasant, it is not a troll, it is an opinion based on reality.
Also you don't like to 'debate' me, nobody is forcing you.
The rich got wealthy off the backs of the middle class, you ass clown.
- please, provide your definition of the middle class. Because the middle class was created in USA in 19 century - it was small business owners, professionals and such.
The 'middle class' you are thinking of is no such thing. After WWII the 'middle class' of America was actually the working class, which didn't have competition from outside countries, because most countries outside of USA didn't have any capital and infrastructure left after the war.
Your 'middle class' idea is a fluke, caused by war and lack of competition.
Without a 290 million person pool of consumers to sell shit to, just within the Continental US
- but that 'SHIT' that people are buying, is what makes them wealthy. Not just silly pieces of paper with funny pictures on them. It's the stuff you buy that gives you quality of life. If just fiat currency itself was wealth, then Zimbabwe would have been the most prosperous country on earth, why anybody has hundreds of trillions of Zimbabwe dollars (and don't forget, before they did this to themselves, their dollar was at par with US dollar, so US dollar can also be there.)
Then bitch when the well dries up and your good or service is no longer worth squat and the principle value of the currency is worthless
- you are very confused. The GOOD and SERVICE is what WEALTH IS.
It's not the worthless currency.
Only goods and services improve quality of life, that's what rich people do - they come up with capital and labor organization to give you your quality of life.
The 290 million US consumers are a drop in a bucket at this point. Real consumers today are in Asia, because they are producers, and people who do not produce have nothing to exchange for, so they are no longer real consumers.
The rich are contributing, they are constantly working, using their investments to hire people, to produce stuff.
Today in USA of-course that's not how it is in many cases - the government has usurped the wealth and now all the sane rich investors have left the country, so it's not as easy at this point. But it still cannot be turned into a bloodshed through a real class warfare, because this is gov't washing their hands off of this entire fiasco, pointing fingers at people who are legitimately providing something to the society.
Every time you walk into a store and buy some food or a pair of shoes, you are already benefiting from all the things, from organized capital and labor that the rich have provided you with.
People are dying alone and hungry because the government has turned against the ideas of Constitution and capitalism, and turned dictatorial/oligarchical/socialist on your ass. Those things end badly specifically for the poor and the middle class, and I hope the rich escape those problems by moving their wealth and persons out of the harm way, because once the dust settles, the society will have to be rebuilt, and it won't be the poor and the revolutionaries who'll be rebuilding it.
From an outsider's perspective, I'd have to disagree. I don't see your government doing that much differently than it has in the past.
- which past? If we are talking about the last 98 years, then you are right, the gov't is doing mostly the same thing (safe for Harding, who actually cut gov't by 70%, fired 70% of federal gov't to fight the Fed caused recession in 1920, which was a huge success, the recession was over in 1 year).
But the chickens came home to roost. The inflationary policies of the Fed and gov't, the borrowing, the spending, the growth of gov't, the growth of spending of borrowed money, the wars, the ever growing size of list of business regulations, the growing monopolization of all industries by gov't intervention, yes, all of those things have been happening in one form or another, but now, the USA is no longer a producer of goods. It's running 50+ Billion USD/month trade deficit because it cannot supply itself with goods, energy and even food (thank you, department of Agriculture). The USA cannot supply itself with educated people (thank you, department of Education.) USA has a gov't, which caused massive problems in everything, from foreign policies to civil rights. Yes, imagine, I am one of the people who is against all rules and regulations, including the part of the Civil Rights act, which concerns private establishments. Why, do you ask? Am I a racist? No. I am looking at this and seeing the exact same thing: backfiring. Before the Civil Rights act the young black people in USA from ages of 16-24 had 85% employment. Today they are 50% unemployed. That's not good, but the society is NOT more racist today, far from it. But the policy of the government has created this problem, it backfired, because the small businesses cannot afford any lawsuits and thus they would rather avoid hiring anybody who is a minority, than hire them, then risk having a lawsuit on their hands - be it a woman, and a possible sexual harassment lawsuit, be it a minority, and a possible discrimination lawsuit resulting from trying to fire them.
But you see, people were always hired and fired, but once you have gov't laws on your side, you can now try and apply them for any situation, and even situations that have nothing to do with you being fired.
Gov't foreign policy is constantly backfiring. All of the intervention, the wars - Vietnam, Korea, Grenada, Iraq, Kuwait, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan and all the other 'unseen' wars, Columbia... The drug wars.
The war on poverty - well, here is another war that gov't started and again, the poverty is winning.
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I am of an opinion that anything that gov't does can be understood completely by just turning it on its head, upside down and looking at the opposite of what gov't is proposing, and then you will see the real meaning, the real results.
If gov't is 'fighting poverty', then it means gov't will increase poverty.
If gov't is 'fighting drugs', then there will be more deaths associated with that and more drug problems.
If gov't is helping Osama Bin Laden, then he'll be eventually trying to kill US citizens.
If gov't is helping Saddam Hussein, then eventually there will be a war with him.
If gov't is setting a liability cap of 10Million dollars to let deep water oil drilling while simultaneously prohibiting shallow water oil drilling - prepare for a disaster.
If gov't is saying: everybody must have a house, then NOBODY will have a house.
If gov't is saying: we will insure your bank deposits with FDIC, then they w
So, how is that "jersey's shore" thing going? While controlling the mind directly is maybe out of rich for now, controlling the impulses and behavior is not that hard. Bread and circuses wasn't invented in the last 100 years, you know.
You can debate in government until you are blue in the face, but if the government is the one destroying the economy, it will not help you, will not see things your way.
Government is the one, that is causing the fall of US economy, and from the time of capitalist industrial revolution, the sciences and engineering was promoted exactly because the capitalist industrialism needed the sciences and engineering.
No. Currency inflation hurts the society that deals in that currency.
The 'rich' will not suffer from inflation because they can and they do own investments, that are NOT currency based.
The poor on the other hand will suffer because they are living paycheck to paycheck or government check to government check, and all of those checks come in in those inflated dollars. Inflated dollars buy less and less every day.
But eventually those inflated dollars will buy nothing at all. That's what happened in Zimbabwe, in USSR, in Argentina, in Weimar Germany, in Emperor's Rome and so on.
Currency inflation hurts the people who buy food and energy, because food and energy are getting more and more expensive with every new printed dollar.
Do you know who is happy to see inflation - those who are promoting and causing it - the biggest debtors of all times - the government of US of A, the State governments, who have enormous unfunded liabilities - all the pensions they promised to all those government workers and municipalities.
They want inflation.
But what they will get will be hyper-inflationary depression/stagflation, because it's one thing when you just have CURRENCY inflation and you still HAVE production, but it's another thing altogether, when you have inflation and you have NO production and you borrow money from producers to buy products of those producers.
and this will not simply 'hurt', it will cause massive amounts of pain and suffering to the middle class and the poor, who will not be able to buy anything at all.
Imagine not being able to buy food for a year, even if you have a full barrel of hundred dollar bills. Imagine that. That will hurt.
don't forget, you ARE rich to somebody, while somebody else is rich to you.
As an atheist, I am not about to go on a killing spree, I don't care that there are people who are richer, I WANT there to be rich people rather than poor people.
I want people to compete, to create better products/services and if they become rich in the process, I am all for it, as long as I get the spoils of that competition through lower prices/higher quality/more new interesting stuff - that's economic growth.
I don't even need a lot of money, I just need real competition in the market. Real competition, without government intervention. Why is that? Because I want to see companies compete in cut throat environment, where things are deflating in price.
I want prices to fall, I want deflation. I want deflation. Deflation. Deflation of money supply - that's what I want. I want money to become more and more expensive and more and more scarce.
Why is that? Because prices for everything go down as money become more expensive. I don't want inflation. Will the labor prices go down as well? Of-course! But in real competitive market the number of competing entities is so high, that whatever money I have will buy more and more every day.
Those were the actual realities of the USA in 19 century, even though even in those times the US gov't was doing something terrible - helping some people with their monopolies. The robber barons, the tycoons, whatever, those were gov't created. But the prices were falling. New products were created. New industries were created. Entire new job segments were created. Nobody had to work in the field farming 15 hours a day just to feed themselves. More leisure time was created.
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Do you know what is good? It's when you do not have to work at all or work very very little to feed yourself, so you'd have much more leisure time. Do you know how that can be achieved? Through massive automation of production, through new efficiencies and competition.
We see examples of this: computers, TVs, cars, any technologies, some forms of medical attention, and many more things tend towards that because there is real competition there. Who could afford THEIR OWN COMPUTER 50 years ago? Who does not have a computer in their phone or PDA or TV today?
Was this done by poor people? Was this done by governments and monopolies? Or was this done by people who became also insanely rich in the process?
So why would we want to punish success? What we need is to punish FAILURE. And government is not punishing failure, it's punishing success with taxes and it's rewarding failure with money and positions of power.
All of those banks that were gov't created monopolies, that enjoyed gov't FDIC insurance, that had all that cheap money from gov't, that had all those regulations destroying their competition by gov't, all those banks failed. They are failures, yet they are rewarded. The GE CEO now has a high power position in the US government. WHY? Under his watch the valuation of GE fell by over 50%, maybe more, that's insane to reward that!
But that's the way it is - the gov't creates inequality by destroying competitive environment, it promotes FAILURE it denounces success and it's causing the society to be poorer and poorer all the time, but hey, at least we can blame the rich for this.
Tell me something, do you honestly believe that the rich NEED the SS?
The rich need the EI?
The rich need the Medicare?
Anybody, do you think that Bill Gates needs to pay SS and EI and Medicare contributions?
Why?
I hear a lot of people argue that they are paying the SS and EI and thus they should get it back for some reason even though they are wrong, those are not insurance programs, where money is saved and invested and just sitting there invested, those are welfare programs, and the money are gone immediately to pay those on top of these pyramid scams, while the rest of the money is used to pay for whatever your politicians promised you, so you can't have your same dollar paid twice to you - once on some program/war and then the second time - to you, if you need SS/EI/Medicare etc. All of those programs are unfunded liabilities, they are all debt based, to 'fund' them US gov't must sell the US bonds first and that's debt. There is no money there.
But tell me something: WHY SHOULD ANY RICH PERSON PAY INTO SS?
By that same logic that people apply, when they argue that their SS payments are somehow actual insurance payments, by that very logic anybody who does not need to get any of that money because they have enough, shouldn't be paying into that pot. But it IS a scam, it IS a pyramid, this is NOT about insurance, this is about taking your money and buying a very expensive gov't, that does not do what you want, but does whatever it wants, that's why the richest people now are found in the government, in Senate, in House, in White House, even under the president's table sucking his cock.
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It is time for the sheeple to realize they are being scammed. It is time to stop paying all taxes to the US government and to revolt and take the government down or at least, it is time for the separate States to declare annulment of the federal government. Federal government is a cancer of the society, it is eating all of the lunch, it is printing all of the dollars.
You think Obama has lowered your taxes, right? But what about the gigantic, enormous tax of INFLATION? The Fed is printing the US dollar, inflating it away (it's also amusing to see how the US is complaining that China is manipulating currency, while it is simply trying to anchor their money to something, and is making a mistake of anchoring it against another currency rather than against gold. Many countries are anchoring their money against US dollar, the problem US has with China is that China also produces all of the goods that USA is consuming. It is in the best interest of China to no longer peg their currency to the US dollar and to appreciate their currency, but USA will be FUCKED. FUCKED. USA has no production capacity to supply itself with almost anything anymore, except for weapons of mass destruction.)
So do yourself a FAVOR, move all your money out of US dollar - this will help you to avoid the BIGGEST TAX that USA government is imposing on you.
Also realize, that the US gov't is the cause of all of the economic disasters and it's crashing the economy, destroying capital and jobs, and without productive jobs USA is fucked. However you can avoid the biggest tax of all - inflation - by moving your money into other flawed currencies or into something tangible - monetary metals or FOREIGN equities. That's right, foreign equities, not USA equities, because eventually the US gov't will be bailing out its monopolies and will be destroying competition completely but the companies that still will have some profit because they are catering to the foreign consumers will most likely be taxes more - windfall taxes, and you will NOT see your dividends.
You are robbed blind by your government, do something about it.
Stop giving it money, cut all spending by 99.9%. Fire all government workers. Stop all government contracts. Dismantle all government institutions and departments. Repeal all government laws.
All of this needs to stop and money must be made solid again, it must be
Oh, yeah, all that government spending. The bailouts, the 1% during Greenspan and then 0% during Bernanke interest rates, the stimulus packages, the buying out of various private businesses, buying out bad mortgage loans, insuring mortgage loans with no collateral, with no downpayment, giving out all sorts of free money, sure sure, that'll generate economic activity.
If by activity you mean: people will buy more stuff they didn't produce with the given/borrowed money - you are right.
If by activity you mean: people will SAVE that money to invest into businesses and will organize capital and labor to start some sort of production facility, to create goods, etc. Well, you are going against the modern economic ideas pushed by the gov't, that savings is counterproductive and that all that economy needs to grow and to get better is spending to buy all those cheap Chinese goods.
What kind of a stupid question is that? If the employer in question could only get the necessary person, who was familiar with the technology at that price, that's all that matters. That's what market is supposed to be anyway: there is supply of some skill, the demand for that skill goes up. Originally the cost of labor that has the skill is high, eventually more labor comes to the market with that skill and the costs go down.
What kind of a 'senior developer' are we talking about here, if the fresh college grad is going to be making 30% more from the very start?
Here is what we have: we have a 'senior developer' who is
1. EITHER unfamiliar with the market, cannot market his skills efficiently and get a position that would be more in accord with his abilities and compensation based on market pricing OR 2. we have an individual here who is effectively getting paid what he is worth on the market OR 3. we have an individual who is getting paid MORE than he is worth.
Either he is getting what he is worth OR he is getting less or more than that.
If he is getting less than that, then he should be angry with himself for being a dumb ass and not finding himself a job where he'd be paid as much as he is supposed to.
If he is gettin what he is worth or even more than what he is worth, then he is actually making himself look bad. That's right - you are getting what you are worth or maybe more and you have the gull to attack a fresh man like that just because that guy can get a deal that makes sense from point of view of the market?
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Of-course, to be totally fair, there is another remote possibility. The fresh man out of the college is getting a much better deal than he should. In fact I think there is a combination of both: the fresh out of college kid getting more than he should and the guy who is complaining also being overpaid.
There. I said it. Why do I think so? Because people KNOW what they are worth. They do know it, so it doesn't take some new hire to remind them of this. So the guy knows, he is worth this much. If he were worth more, he would have found another job (and also we wouldn't have been here, talking about his dumb ass, he is making himself look like an idiot.)
The new hire - good for you. You got a sweet deal out of some stupid buzz. Or maybe you just know the right people, in which case - good for you.
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Now, was there really a client who wanted this new technology and did the kid out of school need to be hired like that? There is probably another problem right there. Do you think that the client of this company will be told that the person dealing with their request is going to be some 'fresh kid out of college'?
I'm all for capitalism, but regulations exist for a reason... usually as a reactionary measure to massive abuse.
- chasing the tail of the last problem, as always.
In this case, they're right.
- no, they are not right. They have no right to prevent me from forming a private partnership of any size and sinking all my money into whatever investment or gambling idea I want. They do not have the Constitutional authority to do any of that. Again, they were wrong when they prevented quite a large number of small time investors from shorting the housing bubble, preventing those people from getting richer, what makes you think they are correct anyway, even without looking at the fact they have no authority to do this?
The valuation is ridiculously excessive relative to their annual revenue
- and what on this planet makes you the authority to tell me how to spend my money?
and I fail to see how being deprived of getting scammed is destroying America.
- you probably want to revise that statement, it makes no sense.
Does anyone honestly think Madoff getting busted was a threat to liberty?
- the liberty is under threat and it's because the gov't has created an environment where creating your own competing hedge fund is impossible, plenty of it as a response to the Madoff scandal, of which SEC was aware for the good part of the decade, not only away, but probably covering it up, as Madoff had or has ties to the SEC through some relative being married there. Also, what the hell, let me make another point on Madoff. The US gov't shouldn't have prosecuted the guy, it should have HIRED him. He was doing exactly the same thing that the US gov't is doing, only he was doing it on much smaller scale, but still, he was quite successful about it. He and Bernanke - I don't see the difference.
It's a bit sad we let them take foreign investors like that, but hey, I guess that at least benefits the US economy, right?
- US economy is compromised probably to the point of no return by inflationary policies, printing money and generally chasing the capital away from the country (have you noticed the lack of manufacturing jobs and the resulting trade deficit of over 50Billion/month on consumer goods/energy/food?)
Every single thing that US gov't ends up trying to protect US citizens from backfires. It's the same thing with US government's foreign policy - all of it eventually backfires.
FDIC and 1-0% interest and Freddie/Fannie and all capital destroying regulations backfired and created one bubble after another, the last one will bring down US bonds and US dollar.
SEC is part of US government, creating regulations that should not exist. SEC should not exist.
The FB deal (though I could not care less about FB) is about not disclosing their information publicly. But their information will go to the stock holders. The stock holders will have their prospectuses, but they are entering a partnership.
There is NOTHING WRONG with a partnership - where company's stock is held by a number of individuals who agree to a number of rules, like in this case, one of the rules is that the individuals cannot trade the stock on secondary markets until 2013.
Do you want to be protected from participating in a partnership by SEC? Well, you got it.
Quite a huge number of people were 'protected' by SEC before the housing bubble blew from shorting and eventually they were protected from becoming wealthier. Good going, but that's what gov't is doing.
All of the/. anger about this GS move is misplaced. Now, personally I wouldn't be buying the FB shares, it's just not something I believe in, maybe I am wrong, but I rather be wrong than sorry. But the reason GS is doing this is not to fuck with US somehow. No. The reason is because the US gov't is fucking with US citizens.
US gov't does not consider you to be adults. They haven't for a long time. Since the moment the Fed was created and they started buying your votes with your money. Well, maybe you aren't adults. Or maybe the adults are running the show, and the eternal teens are running around, being herded. Well, you know what happens with a herd eventually? It's eaten.
SEC wouldn't allow a partnership to be formed in US that wouldn't comply with public rules. Well, a partnership is only 'public' as far as the public that owns the stock. But it's not them, who won't be getting the information. It's SEC and the public who doesn't own the stock.
If you are public who doesn't own the stock and you would buy the stock without any of that information, that's your business. But SEC won't let you. Hey, maybe you are gambling, but where in the US Constitution does it say that US gov't has the authority to prevent you from gambling? The US gov't is counterfeiting money - they have no authority to do that either.
Anyway, US citizens are becoming prisoners of their own gov't - can't have Swiss bank accounts, can't own FB stock, can't have a sane country that's not in war every year, can't have capital to have real jobs. All because of gov't.
They say that the people deserve their gov't. Look in the mirror - do you?
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a few dozen lines is what I am doing at this point - starting a worker thread, have the request thread wait for 100ms, wake, check status and time, if status is done, exit, if time is out, do that instead, but first signal the worker thread to destroy itself.
Easy, breasy, and look, no expense and no rewrite.
All of those things can be done privately even police. I know most will not agree, but at the very minimum none of those issues, none of them are a federal issue.
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Hmmm, I haven't seen somebody being so gleeful about someone else having business other than commenting on /., but I can assure you, no amount of socialist propaganda can confuse me.
We slashed taxes so that we could no longer afford our spending and had to borrow.
- the pathetic slash of taxes you are referring to is more than offset by all the inflation, which taxes not only your latest income, but also your entire net worth. Do not confuse the words that come out of the gov't with reality.
It's not just the taxes that must be slashed, it must be the SPENDING that must be slashed. 99.9% of gov't must be fired. Only then the healing can start.
, keeping your investment bank from acting as your trusted advisor and your adversary
- wouldn't have even been an issue if FDIC was never created, and gov't didn't prop up their financial monster monopolies.
We slashed trade barriers to send jobs to countries with 1/8th the wages.
- earth to AC, you didn't have a choice. The imbalance in overall economy of the world had started the massive outflow of capital, it was only a matter of time that all capital would have left.
Removing trade barriers is only part of the answer, the real answer is to allow the economy to restructure, but that requires removal of 99.9% of gov't.
We killed regulations protecting union organization
- the private sector companies, that weren't gov't monopolies and that had unions there went bankrupt anyway. The unions are only active in gov't monopolies and in gov't itself, because those were the only entities big enough to sustain that kind of financial abuse. At this point even those institutions are no longer big enough.
We made it legal for corporations to spend unlimited quantities of anonymous cash to buy elections.
- there is no problem with this. The real problem is that gov't has authority to mandate the economic outcomes for any entities.
I left a number of comments on the solution to this problem previously, they are right there.
I am pretty sure he actually reads my posts, not the other way around. I prefer Jon Stewart's show and I do watch Maddow because I often need a real laugh.
I didn't miss the point, the point is that just now you have commented with a flamebait but not moded accordingly, while my comments are marked as a 'troll' or 'flamebait' all over the last couple of stories, simply because my message is unpleasant to so many, but while it may be unpleasant, it is not a troll, it is an opinion based on reality.
Also you don't like to 'debate' me, nobody is forcing you.
The rich got wealthy off the backs of the middle class, you ass clown.
- please, provide your definition of the middle class. Because the middle class was created in USA in 19 century - it was small business owners, professionals and such.
The 'middle class' you are thinking of is no such thing. After WWII the 'middle class' of America was actually the working class, which didn't have competition from outside countries, because most countries outside of USA didn't have any capital and infrastructure left after the war.
Your 'middle class' idea is a fluke, caused by war and lack of competition.
Without a 290 million person pool of consumers to sell shit to, just within the Continental US
- but that 'SHIT' that people are buying, is what makes them wealthy. Not just silly pieces of paper with funny pictures on them. It's the stuff you buy that gives you quality of life. If just fiat currency itself was wealth, then Zimbabwe would have been the most prosperous country on earth, why anybody has hundreds of trillions of Zimbabwe dollars (and don't forget, before they did this to themselves, their dollar was at par with US dollar, so US dollar can also be there.)
Then bitch when the well dries up and your good or service is no longer worth squat and the principle value of the currency is worthless
- you are very confused. The GOOD and SERVICE is what WEALTH IS.
It's not the worthless currency.
Only goods and services improve quality of life, that's what rich people do - they come up with capital and labor organization to give you your quality of life.
The 290 million US consumers are a drop in a bucket at this point. Real consumers today are in Asia, because they are producers, and people who do not produce have nothing to exchange for, so they are no longer real consumers.
Well, clearly, you want class warfare.
The rich are contributing, they are constantly working, using their investments to hire people, to produce stuff.
Today in USA of-course that's not how it is in many cases - the government has usurped the wealth and now all the sane rich investors have left the country, so it's not as easy at this point. But it still cannot be turned into a bloodshed through a real class warfare, because this is gov't washing their hands off of this entire fiasco, pointing fingers at people who are legitimately providing something to the society.
Every time you walk into a store and buy some food or a pair of shoes, you are already benefiting from all the things, from organized capital and labor that the rich have provided you with.
People are dying alone and hungry because the government has turned against the ideas of Constitution and capitalism, and turned dictatorial/oligarchical/socialist on your ass. Those things end badly specifically for the poor and the middle class, and I hope the rich escape those problems by moving their wealth and persons out of the harm way, because once the dust settles, the society will have to be rebuilt, and it won't be the poor and the revolutionaries who'll be rebuilding it.
From an outsider's perspective, I'd have to disagree. I don't see your government doing that much differently than it has in the past.
- which past? If we are talking about the last 98 years, then you are right, the gov't is doing mostly the same thing (safe for Harding, who actually cut gov't by 70%, fired 70% of federal gov't to fight the Fed caused recession in 1920, which was a huge success, the recession was over in 1 year).
But the chickens came home to roost. The inflationary policies of the Fed and gov't, the borrowing, the spending, the growth of gov't, the growth of spending of borrowed money, the wars, the ever growing size of list of business regulations, the growing monopolization of all industries by gov't intervention, yes, all of those things have been happening in one form or another, but now, the USA is no longer a producer of goods. It's running 50+ Billion USD/month trade deficit because it cannot supply itself with goods, energy and even food (thank you, department of Agriculture). The USA cannot supply itself with educated people (thank you, department of Education.) USA has a gov't, which caused massive problems in everything, from foreign policies to civil rights. Yes, imagine, I am one of the people who is against all rules and regulations, including the part of the Civil Rights act, which concerns private establishments. Why, do you ask? Am I a racist? No. I am looking at this and seeing the exact same thing: backfiring. Before the Civil Rights act the young black people in USA from ages of 16-24 had 85% employment. Today they are 50% unemployed. That's not good, but the society is NOT more racist today, far from it. But the policy of the government has created this problem, it backfired, because the small businesses cannot afford any lawsuits and thus they would rather avoid hiring anybody who is a minority, than hire them, then risk having a lawsuit on their hands - be it a woman, and a possible sexual harassment lawsuit, be it a minority, and a possible discrimination lawsuit resulting from trying to fire them.
But you see, people were always hired and fired, but once you have gov't laws on your side, you can now try and apply them for any situation, and even situations that have nothing to do with you being fired.
Gov't policy on agriculture subsidies and food price fixing policies have backfired and caused massive obesity in population because fructose is in everything, because it's subsidized and cheap, while prices on food are 'fixed' by gov't and so instead of having them fluctuate, the companies look for the most efficient ways to lower costs all the time - thus ingredients that are worse and worse.
Gov't foreign policy is constantly backfiring. All of the intervention, the wars - Vietnam, Korea, Grenada, Iraq, Kuwait, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan and all the other 'unseen' wars, Columbia... The drug wars.
The war on poverty - well, here is another war that gov't started and again, the poverty is winning.
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I am of an opinion that anything that gov't does can be understood completely by just turning it on its head, upside down and looking at the opposite of what gov't is proposing, and then you will see the real meaning, the real results.
If gov't is 'fighting poverty', then it means gov't will increase poverty.
If gov't is 'fighting drugs', then there will be more deaths associated with that and more drug problems.
If gov't is helping Osama Bin Laden, then he'll be eventually trying to kill US citizens.
If gov't is helping Saddam Hussein, then eventually there will be a war with him.
If gov't is setting a liability cap of 10Million dollars to let deep water oil drilling while simultaneously prohibiting shallow water oil drilling - prepare for a disaster.
If gov't is saying: everybody must have a house, then NOBODY will have a house.
If gov't is saying: we will insure your bank deposits with FDIC, then they w
I AM blaming the government. But I am not sitting idle, I just want government out of my way, so I can do what I must.
So, how is that "jersey's shore" thing going? While controlling the mind directly is maybe out of rich for now, controlling the impulses and behavior is not that hard. Bread and circuses wasn't invented in the last 100 years, you know.
Only real economics sets real public policy.
You can debate in government until you are blue in the face, but if the government is the one destroying the economy, it will not help you, will not see things your way.
Government is the one, that is causing the fall of US economy, and from the time of capitalist industrial revolution, the sciences and engineering was promoted exactly because the capitalist industrialism needed the sciences and engineering.
Science and engineering will not be promoted in a society that has no production, we have talked about it before, didn't we?
No. Currency inflation hurts the society that deals in that currency.
The 'rich' will not suffer from inflation because they can and they do own investments, that are NOT currency based.
The poor on the other hand will suffer because they are living paycheck to paycheck or government check to government check, and all of those checks come in in those inflated dollars. Inflated dollars buy less and less every day.
But eventually those inflated dollars will buy nothing at all. That's what happened in Zimbabwe, in USSR, in Argentina, in Weimar Germany, in Emperor's Rome and so on.
Currency inflation hurts the people who buy food and energy, because food and energy are getting more and more expensive with every new printed dollar.
Do you know who is happy to see inflation - those who are promoting and causing it - the biggest debtors of all times - the government of US of A, the State governments, who have enormous unfunded liabilities - all the pensions they promised to all those government workers and municipalities.
They want inflation.
But what they will get will be hyper-inflationary depression/stagflation, because it's one thing when you just have CURRENCY inflation and you still HAVE production, but it's another thing altogether, when you have inflation and you have NO production and you borrow money from producers to buy products of those producers.
and this will not simply 'hurt', it will cause massive amounts of pain and suffering to the middle class and the poor, who will not be able to buy anything at all.
Imagine not being able to buy food for a year, even if you have a full barrel of hundred dollar bills. Imagine that. That will hurt.
don't forget, you ARE rich to somebody, while somebody else is rich to you.
As an atheist, I am not about to go on a killing spree, I don't care that there are people who are richer, I WANT there to be rich people rather than poor people.
I want people to compete, to create better products/services and if they become rich in the process, I am all for it, as long as I get the spoils of that competition through lower prices/higher quality/more new interesting stuff - that's economic growth.
I don't even need a lot of money, I just need real competition in the market. Real competition, without government intervention. Why is that? Because I want to see companies compete in cut throat environment, where things are deflating in price.
I want prices to fall, I want deflation. I want deflation. Deflation. Deflation of money supply - that's what I want. I want money to become more and more expensive and more and more scarce.
Why is that? Because prices for everything go down as money become more expensive. I don't want inflation. Will the labor prices go down as well? Of-course! But in real competitive market the number of competing entities is so high, that whatever money I have will buy more and more every day.
Those were the actual realities of the USA in 19 century, even though even in those times the US gov't was doing something terrible - helping some people with their monopolies. The robber barons, the tycoons, whatever, those were gov't created. But the prices were falling. New products were created. New industries were created. Entire new job segments were created. Nobody had to work in the field farming 15 hours a day just to feed themselves. More leisure time was created.
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Do you know what is good? It's when you do not have to work at all or work very very little to feed yourself, so you'd have much more leisure time.
Do you know how that can be achieved?
Through massive automation of production, through new efficiencies and competition.
We see examples of this: computers, TVs, cars, any technologies, some forms of medical attention, and many more things tend towards that because there is real competition there. Who could afford THEIR OWN COMPUTER 50 years ago? Who does not have a computer in their phone or PDA or TV today?
Was this done by poor people? Was this done by governments and monopolies? Or was this done by people who became also insanely rich in the process?
So why would we want to punish success? What we need is to punish FAILURE. And government is not punishing failure, it's punishing success with taxes and it's rewarding failure with money and positions of power.
All of those banks that were gov't created monopolies, that enjoyed gov't FDIC insurance, that had all that cheap money from gov't, that had all those regulations destroying their competition by gov't, all those banks failed. They are failures, yet they are rewarded. The GE CEO now has a high power position in the US government. WHY? Under his watch the valuation of GE fell by over 50%, maybe more, that's insane to reward that!
But that's the way it is - the gov't creates inequality by destroying competitive environment, it promotes FAILURE it denounces success and it's causing the society to be poorer and poorer all the time, but hey, at least we can blame the rich for this.
Tell me something, do you honestly believe that the rich NEED the SS?
The rich need the EI?
The rich need the Medicare?
Anybody, do you think that Bill Gates needs to pay SS and EI and Medicare contributions?
Why?
I hear a lot of people argue that they are paying the SS and EI and thus they should get it back for some reason even though they are wrong, those are not insurance programs, where money is saved and invested and just sitting there invested, those are welfare programs, and the money are gone immediately to pay those on top of these pyramid scams, while the rest of the money is used to pay for whatever your politicians promised you, so you can't have your same dollar paid twice to you - once on some program/war and then the second time - to you, if you need SS/EI/Medicare etc. All of those programs are unfunded liabilities, they are all debt based, to 'fund' them US gov't must sell the US bonds first and that's debt. There is no money there.
But tell me something: WHY SHOULD ANY RICH PERSON PAY INTO SS?
By that same logic that people apply, when they argue that their SS payments are somehow actual insurance payments, by that very logic anybody who does not need to get any of that money because they have enough, shouldn't be paying into that pot. But it IS a scam, it IS a pyramid, this is NOT about insurance, this is about taking your money and buying a very expensive gov't, that does not do what you want, but does whatever it wants, that's why the richest people now are found in the government, in Senate, in House, in White House, even under the president's table sucking his cock.
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It is time for the sheeple to realize they are being scammed. It is time to stop paying all taxes to the US government and to revolt and take the government down or at least, it is time for the separate States to declare annulment of the federal government. Federal government is a cancer of the society, it is eating all of the lunch, it is printing all of the dollars.
You think Obama has lowered your taxes, right? But what about the gigantic, enormous tax of INFLATION? The Fed is printing the US dollar, inflating it away (it's also amusing to see how the US is complaining that China is manipulating currency, while it is simply trying to anchor their money to something, and is making a mistake of anchoring it against another currency rather than against gold. Many countries are anchoring their money against US dollar, the problem US has with China is that China also produces all of the goods that USA is consuming. It is in the best interest of China to no longer peg their currency to the US dollar and to appreciate their currency, but USA will be FUCKED. FUCKED. USA has no production capacity to supply itself with almost anything anymore, except for weapons of mass destruction.)
So do yourself a FAVOR, move all your money out of US dollar - this will help you to avoid the BIGGEST TAX that USA government is imposing on you.
Also realize, that the US gov't is the cause of all of the economic disasters and it's crashing the economy, destroying capital and jobs, and without productive jobs USA is fucked. However you can avoid the biggest tax of all - inflation - by moving your money into other flawed currencies or into something tangible - monetary metals or FOREIGN equities. That's right, foreign equities, not USA equities, because eventually the US gov't will be bailing out its monopolies and will be destroying competition completely but the companies that still will have some profit because they are catering to the foreign consumers will most likely be taxes more - windfall taxes, and you will NOT see your dividends.
You are robbed blind by your government, do something about it.
Stop giving it money, cut all spending by 99.9%. Fire all government workers. Stop all government contracts. Dismantle all government institutions and departments. Repeal all government laws.
All of this needs to stop and money must be made solid again, it must be
give the guy a break, he has been searching for a while, trannies are not easy to come by...
Oh, yeah, all that government spending. The bailouts, the 1% during Greenspan and then 0% during Bernanke interest rates, the stimulus packages, the buying out of various private businesses, buying out bad mortgage loans, insuring mortgage loans with no collateral, with no downpayment, giving out all sorts of free money, sure sure, that'll generate economic activity.
If by activity you mean: people will buy more stuff they didn't produce with the given/borrowed money - you are right.
If by activity you mean: people will SAVE that money to invest into businesses and will organize capital and labor to start some sort of production facility, to create goods, etc. Well, you are going against the modern economic ideas pushed by the gov't, that savings is counterproductive and that all that economy needs to grow and to get better is spending to buy all those cheap Chinese goods.
Sure sure.
Capitalism, ha? And what do you think happened and happens in countries with somewhat different structures?
Management gets to walk and some poor schmuck gets a bullet.
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What does this even mean: "is it fair?"
What kind of a stupid question is that? If the employer in question could only get the necessary person, who was familiar with the technology at that price, that's all that matters. That's what market is supposed to be anyway: there is supply of some skill, the demand for that skill goes up. Originally the cost of labor that has the skill is high, eventually more labor comes to the market with that skill and the costs go down.
What kind of a 'senior developer' are we talking about here, if the fresh college grad is going to be making 30% more from the very start?
Here is what we have: we have a 'senior developer' who is
1. EITHER unfamiliar with the market, cannot market his skills efficiently and get a position that would be more in accord with his abilities and compensation based on market pricing OR
2. we have an individual here who is effectively getting paid what he is worth on the market OR
3. we have an individual who is getting paid MORE than he is worth.
Either he is getting what he is worth OR he is getting less or more than that.
If he is getting less than that, then he should be angry with himself for being a dumb ass and not finding himself a job where he'd be paid as much as he is supposed to.
If he is gettin what he is worth or even more than what he is worth, then he is actually making himself look bad. That's right - you are getting what you are worth or maybe more and you have the gull to attack a fresh man like that just because that guy can get a deal that makes sense from point of view of the market?
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Of-course, to be totally fair, there is another remote possibility. The fresh man out of the college is getting a much better deal than he should. In fact I think there is a combination of both: the fresh out of college kid getting more than he should and the guy who is complaining also being overpaid.
There. I said it. Why do I think so? Because people KNOW what they are worth. They do know it, so it doesn't take some new hire to remind them of this. So the guy knows, he is worth this much. If he were worth more, he would have found another job (and also we wouldn't have been here, talking about his dumb ass, he is making himself look like an idiot.)
The new hire - good for you. You got a sweet deal out of some stupid buzz. Or maybe you just know the right people, in which case - good for you.
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Now, was there really a client who wanted this new technology and did the kid out of school need to be hired like that? There is probably another problem right there. Do you think that the client of this company will be told that the person dealing with their request is going to be some 'fresh kid out of college'?
This has a 'disaster' written all over it.
I'm all for capitalism, but regulations exist for a reason... usually as a reactionary measure to massive abuse.
- chasing the tail of the last problem, as always.
In this case, they're right.
- no, they are not right. They have no right to prevent me from forming a private partnership of any size and sinking all my money into whatever investment or gambling idea I want. They do not have the Constitutional authority to do any of that. Again, they were wrong when they prevented quite a large number of small time investors from shorting the housing bubble, preventing those people from getting richer, what makes you think they are correct anyway, even without looking at the fact they have no authority to do this?
The valuation is ridiculously excessive relative to their annual revenue
- and what on this planet makes you the authority to tell me how to spend my money?
and I fail to see how being deprived of getting scammed is destroying America.
- you probably want to revise that statement, it makes no sense.
Does anyone honestly think Madoff getting busted was a threat to liberty?
- the liberty is under threat and it's because the gov't has created an environment where creating your own competing hedge fund is impossible, plenty of it as a response to the Madoff scandal, of which SEC was aware for the good part of the decade, not only away, but probably covering it up, as Madoff had or has ties to the SEC through some relative being married there. Also, what the hell, let me make another point on Madoff. The US gov't shouldn't have prosecuted the guy, it should have HIRED him. He was doing exactly the same thing that the US gov't is doing, only he was doing it on much smaller scale, but still, he was quite successful about it. He and Bernanke - I don't see the difference.
It's a bit sad we let them take foreign investors like that, but hey, I guess that at least benefits the US economy, right?
- US economy is compromised probably to the point of no return by inflationary policies, printing money and generally chasing the capital away from the country (have you noticed the lack of manufacturing jobs and the resulting trade deficit of over 50Billion/month on consumer goods/energy/food?)
Down with US gov't.
oh, yes, the 'frist psot', also not fine tuned for life. Well, not fine tuned for intelligent life.
Robber Barons as well as 'coal towns' all enjoyed plenty of gov't privilege.
Every single thing that US gov't ends up trying to protect US citizens from backfires. It's the same thing with US government's foreign policy - all of it eventually backfires.
FDIC and 1-0% interest and Freddie/Fannie and all capital destroying regulations backfired and created one bubble after another, the last one will bring down US bonds and US dollar.
SEC is part of US government, creating regulations that should not exist. SEC should not exist.
The FB deal (though I could not care less about FB) is about not disclosing their information publicly. But their information will go to the stock holders. The stock holders will have their prospectuses, but they are entering a partnership.
There is NOTHING WRONG with a partnership - where company's stock is held by a number of individuals who agree to a number of rules, like in this case, one of the rules is that the individuals cannot trade the stock on secondary markets until 2013.
Do you want to be protected from participating in a partnership by SEC? Well, you got it.
Quite a huge number of people were 'protected' by SEC before the housing bubble blew from shorting and eventually they were protected from becoming wealthier. Good going, but that's what gov't is doing.
All of the /. anger about this GS move is misplaced. Now, personally I wouldn't be buying the FB shares, it's just not something I believe in, maybe I am wrong, but I rather be wrong than sorry. But the reason GS is doing this is not to fuck with US somehow. No. The reason is because the US gov't is fucking with US citizens.
US gov't does not consider you to be adults. They haven't for a long time. Since the moment the Fed was created and they started buying your votes with your money. Well, maybe you aren't adults. Or maybe the adults are running the show, and the eternal teens are running around, being herded. Well, you know what happens with a herd eventually? It's eaten.
SEC wouldn't allow a partnership to be formed in US that wouldn't comply with public rules. Well, a partnership is only 'public' as far as the public that owns the stock. But it's not them, who won't be getting the information. It's SEC and the public who doesn't own the stock.
If you are public who doesn't own the stock and you would buy the stock without any of that information, that's your business. But SEC won't let you. Hey, maybe you are gambling, but where in the US Constitution does it say that US gov't has the authority to prevent you from gambling? The US gov't is counterfeiting money - they have no authority to do that either.
Anyway, US citizens are becoming prisoners of their own gov't - can't have Swiss bank accounts, can't own FB stock, can't have a sane country that's not in war every year, can't have capital to have real jobs. All because of gov't.
They say that the people deserve their gov't. Look in the mirror - do you?
a few dozen lines is what I am doing at this point - starting a worker thread, have the request thread wait for 100ms, wake, check status and time, if status is done, exit, if time is out, do that instead, but first signal the worker thread to destroy itself.
Easy, breasy, and look, no expense and no rewrite.
Cheers, ya'll
All of those things can be done privately even police. I know most will not agree, but at the very minimum none of those issues, none of them are a federal issue.
what do you mean by that? A simple example: Connecticut.
Fed tax + State tax + SS + FICA for a self employed individual making over a million a year. The final income tax bill? 49%.
That's before all other taxes - property and purchase etc.