War isn't just. There's no way to completely prevent innocents from getting involved or hurt, and that is a grave injustice.
Injust, however, is not the same as injustifiable.
Justifiability is at best a matter of law, but I don't know what sort of international law would apply to any actions taken here. Regardless of that, we also have to face the courts of domestic and international public opinion. Domestic public opinion would probably be considerably more easy with us than international; my personal feeling is that the right is somewhere in between the two.
Do the terrorists consider their actions just? Hopefully not because the majority of the dead probably have very little participation in the terrorists' complaints. Justifiable? Possibly, if they thought they would help their people's plight. Some people I've spoken to seem to agree that this was justifiable, and I have to say that makes me very angry.
Consider the law on justifiable homicide. I think in most places it requires that there be an immediate threat to the person (in some places to his property) and that the level of force used be reasonable - commensurate with the level of threat. Okay, maybe that doesn't apply to well. If bin Laden or anyone else has quarrels with the US, they should take them up throught other channels. Attacks on innocents to call attention to your wrongs are never going to be justifiable! Attacks on terrorists, and I think attacks on nations that allow terrorists free rein are justified if they help prevent more horrible crimes like this.
How prosecuting an air war against Afghanistan will help, that I don't see, and how to keep a land war from turning into another Vietnam, I also don't see. I hope we've learned from the lessons of our past, but I could see the worst coming - our helping one of the rebel groups fight the Taliban and getting a lot of soldiers and innocents killed and paving the way for the next fascist regime to take over. Is there any way to tell, except to wait and see what our leaders do?
Libraries aren't a great analogy because they're not a push medium. While objectionable material on the radio is mostly avoidable, you have to really seek it out in a library.
I am saddened and embarassed by the television and print news outlets' rush to print unverified stories. This to me is reminiscent of last November. I feel like I can't trust anything I hear now because so much has been but out there and then rescinded. Haven't they learned anything? I have yet to find a source of good accurate information, or people answering or even asking the questions that immediately spring to my mind. Everybody seems too busy revelling in the sadness of it all, for one thing. The evocation of strong emotion is an easy job for TV, and they swing us from sadness to anger to patriotism by the second and it's all CHEAP MAUDLIN CRAP!
We should be better than this. Is it better on cable? I only have broadcast TV...
"I can only assume these people are not in jail for jaywalking..."
Well, more or less. Aren't they mostly in jail for marijuana posession and such?
The USA is a lot more complex than most of those European nations we're held up to. We have every different race and religion on earth represented, probably; we have people from vastly different cultures who have a hard time understanding and getting along with each other; we have lots of people with a genetic disposition for drug addiction; we have huge groups that have been and still are marginalized and oppressed. If we've got a little more going on under the lid than a fairly homogenous white Western European country, it's understandable. Ya wanna eat spicy food, you may end up with indigestion sometimes.;)
That bothers me. She's gotta be pretty brainy to understand this stuff at her age, let alone turn the science on its head. Why do they emphasize that she's not a genius?
Seems like there's a new encryption claim every few months - some of them just don't pan out. Hope this one does, but I'm skeptical...
It's perfectly reasonable to want to put a web in an existing directory that may have other things in it. There's no explanation at the time of creation or deletion of a web that the web consists of all files in this directory. It's also something that could happen very easily by accident.
Their admins are only idiots for using a POS like FrontPage.
Slashdot Mirror
Holy shit, Batman, are there no women around here with mod points?
what about the new pioneer in-dash hdd unit?
pioneer press release
War isn't just. There's no way to completely prevent innocents from getting involved or hurt, and that is a grave injustice.
Injust, however, is not the same as injustifiable.
Justifiability is at best a matter of law, but I don't know what sort of international law would apply to any actions taken here. Regardless of that, we also have to face the courts of domestic and international public opinion. Domestic public opinion would probably be considerably more easy with us than international; my personal feeling is that the right is somewhere in between the two.
Do the terrorists consider their actions just? Hopefully not because the majority of the dead probably have very little participation in the terrorists' complaints. Justifiable? Possibly, if they thought they would help their people's plight. Some people I've spoken to seem to agree that this was justifiable, and I have to say that makes me very angry.
Consider the law on justifiable homicide. I think in most places it requires that there be an immediate threat to the person (in some places to his property) and that the level of force used be reasonable - commensurate with the level of threat. Okay, maybe that doesn't apply to well. If bin Laden or anyone else has quarrels with the US, they should take them up throught other channels. Attacks on innocents to call attention to your wrongs are never going to be justifiable! Attacks on terrorists, and I think attacks on nations that allow terrorists free rein are justified if they help prevent more horrible crimes like this.
How prosecuting an air war against Afghanistan will help, that I don't see, and how to keep a land war from turning into another Vietnam, I also don't see. I hope we've learned from the lessons of our past, but I could see the worst coming - our helping one of the rebel groups fight the Taliban and getting a lot of soldiers and innocents killed and paving the way for the next fascist regime to take over. Is there any way to tell, except to wait and see what our leaders do?
Libraries aren't a great analogy because they're not a push medium. While objectionable material on the radio is mostly avoidable, you have to really seek it out in a library.
I am saddened and embarassed by the television and print news outlets' rush to print unverified stories. This to me is reminiscent of last November. I feel like I can't trust anything I hear now because so much has been but out there and then rescinded. Haven't they learned anything? I have yet to find a source of good accurate information, or people answering or even asking the questions that immediately spring to my mind. Everybody seems too busy revelling in the sadness of it all, for one thing. The evocation of strong emotion is an easy job for TV, and they swing us from sadness to anger to patriotism by the second and it's all CHEAP MAUDLIN CRAP!
We should be better than this. Is it better on cable? I only have broadcast TV...
"I can only assume these people are not in jail for jaywalking..."
;)
Well, more or less. Aren't they mostly in jail for marijuana posession and such?
The USA is a lot more complex than most of those European nations we're held up to. We have every different race and religion on earth represented, probably; we have people from vastly different cultures who have a hard time understanding and getting along with each other; we have lots of people with a genetic disposition for drug addiction; we have huge groups that have been and still are marginalized and oppressed. If we've got a little more going on under the lid than a fairly homogenous white Western European country, it's understandable. Ya wanna eat spicy food, you may end up with indigestion sometimes.
Windows user?
But how expensive is it to make?
Guess I'll put off my DVD purchase...
That bothers me. She's gotta be pretty
brainy to understand this stuff at her
age, let alone turn the science on its
head. Why do they emphasize that she's
not a genius?
Seems like there's a new encryption claim
every few months - some of them just don't
pan out. Hope this one does, but I'm
skeptical...
It's a bug.
It's perfectly reasonable to want to put a web
in an existing directory that may have other things in it. There's no explanation at the
time of creation or deletion of a web that
the web consists of all files in this directory.
It's also something that could happen very easily
by accident.
Their admins are only idiots for using a
POS like FrontPage.