For now, yes, it comes with name-your-flavour-Windows. We'll see next year, with Linux sharing 8% of desktop (50% more than apple), growing strong in Europe, leading the i-server market... Specially if the usb-makers decide to join Linux as the 3D-card makers have done. And the legacy ports... a "secret" way of comunicating good'ol 486 servers with your home-made x86 appliance. (I guess today it was warmer than expected -grinn-)
Well, it's been just a little bit to late. We've already agreed on moving from PC to iPaq (http://www.compaq.com/ipaq ) machines. It will be a blessing for overcrowded desks.
iOpener + MOD-Kit iscool, but also still too far away in the future for us.
Anyway, Netpliance movement is heading the right direction (cheap Linux boxes will get sold better than hot cookies). And it's way ahead of other "internet appliances" that haven't yet arrived to the market.
I guess that you are just a bored troll that wants the europeans to bombard/. with angry posts.
If you are, you better watch your own bussiness and do not post so meaningless posts.
If you are not, well, you better turn off your computer, buy $0.05 of forest and get lost!
For everybody else,
Europe will probably never catch up with the US. But the ethnic problems arised by a Serbian dictator doesn't mean that all Europe is rulled by the racism. Can I claim that the US are a lawless land because there's so many people being killed everyday? Can I claim that cars should be banned because they kill people, polute the air?
No. This is plainly demagogic.
So, you can never cheer what the dictatorial-ruled Serbs have been doing recently.
We (Europe, the whole World) have had enough of this. . .
There will come a day when the motto "No one ever got fired for choosing Microsoft." will find the counterexample which disproves it. It used to be "No one ever got fired for choosing IBM." but I new the guy who disproved that one.
Meanwhile, at least here in Europe, Microsoft is still seen as the "one and only" way. I'm waiting for the day to come when Microsoft won't be the only choice.
Depending on your timeframe, I wonder if Netscape 6/Mozilla might be up to the task.
Well, the basic set of utilities are mostly done and Mozilla is still in is PR1. I've already sent different Mozilla versions "upwards" to do some testing, but there's already a lot of effort done to just adapt to Mozilla. BTW, there's not much literature on Mozilla for developers. Specially in spanish.:-/
I know, hairy-pointed bosses *always* insist on "win-dos inside". This time, though, he has a point: it's the only way to run the heavy DHTML/javascript/XML applications that we are building to replace the old ones. Even though, some will have Linux "to try and feel this Lunix you said? OS".
I agree in all this... plus adding an Ethernet card!!! If it's internal, the best. And $250 + shipping it's a good deal. Sell'em as hot cakes! P.S.: The free 100 machines doesn't look really bright to me. Open Source system has been working great for a while. Why don't use it?
Yes, I know... if Linux would be the only OS for those machines. My boss insist in having Windows on the machines... at least now (something to do with IE5.0-only apps). And I don't see any Windows in less than 500Mb. But thank ou for the comment.
Just another idea that came to me from this post: Cable-Modem ISP can use this a a way to provide internet-through cable with an i-Opener that cames with an ethernet card instead of a V.90 modem. So, high speed, no need for a computer, just a small device that fits in your kitchen. Mmmm... How does it sound?
Yes, at work, we are moving from character-based apps. to HTML-based apps. This way, we could use an i-Opener derivative as our platform.
We are talking on 500 to 1,500 units here. Serious bussiness.
The requiremets would be an i-Opener with those add-ons:
-Ethernet Card (10/100)
-Bootable Hard Disk Drive (1Gb its OK)
-A way to install any desired OS (Linux/Win-dos would be primary choices) and a browser (Mozilla?)
-Key mapping instructions to links their "unique" keys to our applications (help, mail, web, home...)
-Mouse port
-A range of CPUs to choose from (w/ or w/o MMx, 3D instructions, 200 to ??? MHz
-Nice price;)
I guess all this is pretty easy to bundle to any i-Opener. I mean, Netpliance can easily substitute the modem for a ethernet card, attach a 2.5" HDD to the IDE port and provide a Y-cordline for a regular KB+Mouse... ot their KB (without the pizza key, please!).
BTW, we are based at good-old Barcelona-Europe (yes, that's why my english looks wierd sometimes;) and some of our providers can act as importers or European Partners or whatsoever.
How many corporations wouldn't go for a cheap "i-O-Client"? Not only for HTML but any C/S application will work great with it. You have all the Hospitals, Small bussiness,... just anyone with a need for a small front-end for their server applications.
I will appreciate if someone can convince Netpliance that they're in the path of a big-bucks bussiness. We are willing to buy some!
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For now, yes, it comes with name-your-flavour-Windows. We'll see next year, with Linux sharing 8% of desktop (50% more than apple), growing strong in Europe, leading the i-server market... Specially if the usb-makers decide to join Linux as the 3D-card makers have done. And the legacy ports... a "secret" way of comunicating good'ol 486 servers with your home-made x86 appliance. (I guess today it was warmer than expected -grinn-)
Well, it's been just a little bit to late. We've already agreed on moving from PC to iPaq (http://www.compaq.com/ipaq ) machines. It will be a blessing for overcrowded desks.
;)
iOpener + MOD-Kit iscool, but also still too far away in the future for us.
Anyway, Netpliance movement is heading the right direction (cheap Linux boxes will get sold better than hot cookies). And it's way ahead of other "internet appliances" that haven't yet arrived to the market.
Maybe I'll get one for home
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I guess that you are just a bored troll that wants the europeans to bombard /. with angry posts.
If you are, you better watch your own bussiness and do not post so meaningless posts.
If you are not, well, you better turn off your computer, buy $0.05 of forest and get lost!
For everybody else,
Europe will probably never catch up with the US. But the ethnic problems arised by a Serbian dictator doesn't mean that all Europe is rulled by the racism. Can I claim that the US are a lawless land because there's so many people being killed everyday? Can I claim that cars should be banned because they kill people, polute the air?
No. This is plainly demagogic.
So, you can never cheer what the dictatorial-ruled Serbs have been doing recently.
We (Europe, the whole World) have had enough of this.
.
.
There will come a day when the motto "No one ever got fired for choosing Microsoft." will find the counterexample which disproves it. It used to be "No one ever got fired for choosing IBM." but I new the guy who disproved that one.
Meanwhile, at least here in Europe, Microsoft is still seen as the "one and only" way. I'm waiting for the day to come when Microsoft won't be the only choice.
Depending on your timeframe, I wonder if Netscape 6/Mozilla might be up to the task.
Well, the basic set of utilities are mostly done and Mozilla is still in is PR1. I've already sent different Mozilla versions "upwards" to do some testing, but there's already a lot of effort done to just adapt to Mozilla. BTW, there's not much literature on Mozilla for developers. Specially in spanish. :-/
I know, hairy-pointed bosses *always* insist on "win-dos inside". This time, though, he has a point: it's the only way to run the heavy DHTML/javascript/XML applications that we are building to replace the old ones. Even though, some will have Linux "to try and feel this Lunix you said? OS".
I agree in all this... plus adding an Ethernet card!!! If it's internal, the best. And $250 + shipping it's a good deal. Sell'em as hot cakes! P.S.: The free 100 machines doesn't look really bright to me. Open Source system has been working great for a while. Why don't use it?
Yes, I know... if Linux would be the only OS for those machines. My boss insist in having Windows on the machines... at least now (something to do with IE5.0-only apps). And I don't see any Windows in less than 500Mb. But thank ou for the comment.
Just another idea that came to me from this post: Cable-Modem ISP can use this a a way to provide internet-through cable with an i-Opener that cames with an ethernet card instead of a V.90 modem. So, high speed, no need for a computer, just a small device that fits in your kitchen. Mmmm... How does it sound?
... and i-Opener has plenty of possibilities!
;)
;) and some of our providers can act as importers or European Partners or whatsoever.
... just anyone with a need for a small front-end for their server applications.
Yes, at work, we are moving from character-based apps. to HTML-based apps. This way, we could use an i-Opener derivative as our platform.
We are talking on 500 to 1,500 units here. Serious bussiness.
The requiremets would be an i-Opener with those add-ons:
-Ethernet Card (10/100)
-Bootable Hard Disk Drive (1Gb its OK)
-A way to install any desired OS (Linux/Win-dos would be primary choices) and a browser (Mozilla?)
-Key mapping instructions to links their "unique" keys to our applications (help, mail, web, home...)
-Mouse port
-A range of CPUs to choose from (w/ or w/o MMx, 3D instructions, 200 to ??? MHz
-Nice price
I guess all this is pretty easy to bundle to any i-Opener. I mean, Netpliance can easily substitute the modem for a ethernet card, attach a 2.5" HDD to the IDE port and provide a Y-cordline for a regular KB+Mouse... ot their KB (without the pizza key, please!).
BTW, we are based at good-old Barcelona-Europe (yes, that's why my english looks wierd sometimes
How many corporations wouldn't go for a cheap "i-O-Client"? Not only for HTML but any C/S application will work great with it. You have all the Hospitals, Small bussiness,
I will appreciate if someone can convince Netpliance that they're in the path of a big-bucks bussiness. We are willing to buy some!
Thank you in advance,
Sinner Falcatas
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