lol wow all I can say is that someone needs to get a life. Remind me not to make a comment on slash dot against. Apparently if you say anything ther is always a troll around the corner using childish insults. This is why bush was elected TWICE. It is bcause of red neck americans who think they are right about everything and believe that making an intelligent conversation is a waste of tim.
Hey I hope you got your goals:P Have fun flaming.
Here is something that describes you trolls: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20080227
wow and the sad thing is you get you rocks off trolling slashdot and insulting strangers on the internet.
Hydrogen is insanely inefficient as an energy source and it requires a large amount of energy just o create it. Hydrogen is highly combustible and doesn't burn it simply ignites. now would you really want to drive a car where static can cause you to die instantly.
For one where would I get bio diesel from...I live in Miami. I can't ust go to a farm and ask for some corn.
And obviously I have a paid off car that is only 5 months away. I am not rich and I can't afford to just trade in my car.
And no I'm not making excuses I'm just saying the current situation for all but a select few of americans. We are all at the mercy of the oil companies. I can't stop driving because I need to work. The cost of living is insane here in florida and I have to work my ass off just to pay for rent and internet.
And jesus christ I WASNT TALKING ABOUT GAS i was just throwing that in as a joke you stupid troll. Of course the ISPs are making excuses. You know how cheap internet is europe. It's not because they can magically get cheap internet. The ISPs in Europe are still getting hefty profits. We are just a country full of corrupt politicians that are owned by large corporations.
well its quite obvious...the prices aren't artificially set like here. The market determines how much something costs. Remember that whole supply and demand thing....i thought that was a capitalist ideal...guess i was wrong *sigh*
I agree. We need regulation, obviously we tried to leave the telcoms alone for 20 years. You know what they did? They went reverse and merged right back into monopolies. Remember the "baby bells". That was done for a reason yet somehow our government discarded that and let the telcoms merge again.
We need regulation in the telcom industry. We have tried to let them be but obviously they have crossed the line. I believe in capitalism..but monopolies are the bain for capitalism. The whole purpose of capitalism is that "the market rules" and for companies to compete. Guess what if theirs a monopoly than it is no longer capitalism it is a form of communism in itself. We are being ruled by singular entities.
Ok if you really want to be an idiot an troll thats cool.
Biodiesel for one is fundamentally flawed because we would be doing the world even less of a service by cannibalizing our food supply. Besides I don't have a flex fuel car so how would that help me.
And yah because I'm going to trade in my year old car for a hybrid which costs an extra three thousand dollars. No I am sorry not every American is that rich. If I could afford a hybrid it would still cost more in the long run cause 3k buys you a shitload of gas.
Hydrogen cars are a joke because they have no power, it costs way too much to make hydrogen, and do you ever hear about the zephlin...it was hydrogen...guessed what happened to it? It blew up.
And you sir have no idea what I am talking about. Not only are all other options expensive but they are highly impractical.
Same with the ISPs there is nothing I can do. I am at the mercy of monopoly. I have two choices cable or AT&T (I have AT&T). So what is it that you want me to do? Is there an "inconvenient" way of getting cheap internet..no unless of course i drive around a neighborhood and leech off people's unprotected networks (which is a crime btw).
Of course the ISPs are making excuses. They are blaming the users for their network problem. They sold their customers that connection. Noone told the ISPs to oversell way more than their network could support. They are blaming everyone for their network being overloaded but It's there fault because they just pocketed the money they recieved. Obviously they are making a lot more money but they aren't spending a dime on the second mile....Dear Troll...STFU
well i had a $30 dedicated server and do u know how much bandwidth i got... I got a 100mbs connection with 200gb limit and for an extra 9 bucks you get an extra tb. I mean seriously if thats how much you pay for a 100mbps up/down (and trust me I use every last gigabyte) including the frinkin server. I mean 9 bucks for a tb....Why are we paying 60 bucks a month for 3mbps connection with only 60kbytes. And on top of that we aren't even allowed to fully use that. Does anyone else see that. Obviously we have the connections, we have the capacity, the telecoms just overcharge.
Well than upgrade the networks. Whether they like it or not the internet is becoming a more two way experience. There is nothing that anyone is going to do about it. Fighting it is obviously not going to help. People are uploading movies to youtube, uploading photos to myspace and facebook, and using webcams.
It is not only P2P that uses upstream...its everything web 2.0
Well obviously they aren't making the 65nm ones (for good reason) but they wouldn't have done that to begin with if AMD had released its 45nm chips.
But thats not the point. I have intel stuff I love intel. They compete hard but I feel right now that AMD has slipped out of the consumer market Intel is not getting as much competition. Without competition Intel can sell their chips at whatever price they feel like. I jsut think someone needs to keep intel on their toes.
And I'm not saying anything negative against intel. They are ahead not because they bought out someone or because they are a monopoly but because they have really good products and much better manufacturing techniques.
now en days procs are becoming less important and now video cards are becoming more important. Even the best games don't really need too much CPU. Other than pysics CPUs are becoming less and less important. It is now secondary in high end gaming PCs. You won't see much of any difference between a 1k quad core or 200 dollar 45nm dual core in video gaming. Although you will see a huge difference between an 8600 GT and a 8800 GTS.
Hey nice job being a troll! Proof.....I don't know its quite simple:
Their network is almost 10 years old with only modest upgrades yet they have been charging us the same as they were 5 years ago. I still pay as much for DSL as I did 3 years ago. Apparently they don't follow the same principles as most tech companies. Instead of lowing their prices as their costs have gone down they level off their prices even as the technology becomes cheaper.
It's called moore's law. Though it was originally for CPUs it applies to all of technology. Stuff gets halved in price every 18 months.
I haven't seen my bills go down in last 18 months. I haven't seen any new DSL offices built. I haven't seen fiber being put down anywhere but the southeast. Heck by now we should have city wide wireless internet considering how cheap wireless networking equipment is. It only costs a million to wire whole city which is pretty damn cheap by any metric.
I mean seriously I know this ain't Europe because in Europe they don't allow themselves to get raped in the ass. They do something about it and put their monopolies to task.
IMO and do you really want to see the telcoms get to a point where they can tell us what we should pay and we pay it beause we have no choice. When I fill up gas I'm always pissed but I am completely powerless. all i can do is bend over and say "Chevron do your worst*.
On a side note: anyone want to join in a class action suit against Chevron and all the oil companies for repeated ass raping. Every time I go to the pump I feel like a prison bitch.
Now the point is...do you want AT&T and Comcast to become even more Oilesque
Yes AMD needs to get their shit in gear. They are getting their ass kicked by Intel (and rightfully so). Their chips are still in the dark ages and they are just barely making quad cores and more importantly 45nm processors. I pity the fool who buys a 300 dollar 65nm processor.
Now if Nvidia and VIA gets in the game and supplants amd are at least takes a small niche it will keep intel on their toes....without competition Intel could become like microsoft. They can artificially set their prices.
That is not the point. People don't understand that we are getting LESS value than before. They need to stop making excuses...upgrade their damn network and stop pocketing all our money...and btw your wrong that P2P is the biggest problem. 60% of internet traffic is video streaming.
Where is the "OMG THESE DAMN YOU TUBERS AND VIDEO GAME PLAYERS ARE SLOWING DOWN OUR NETWORK!".
They are just targeting P2P because everyone looks at P2Pers as leeches and because a lot of P2P of piracy noone will care if we cripple P2P networks so that we don't have as much load on our network.
I wouldn't really call this a merger. VIA is a processor maker and nvidia is a GPU maker obviously Nvidia's all-in-one chip wouldn't be viable on their own. VIA makes a lot cheaper and low power chips so for the purposes of this they have a leg up on intel. The whole point is you don't really need (or want for that matter) a fast, monster processor for a smart phone. But there could be obvious benefits to having a kickass video card....playing video. The same also applies to ultra portable laptops. Your not going to be using it for gaming (but you can if you want) but it's quite possible that your going to be watching on your ultra portable. Also the ability to output 1080p is insane.
Right now I just want to see Intel get off their high horse. Even though they haven't really done anything wrong and they are ahead for a reason (they made 45nm chips) I think that someone needs to keep intel in check and make sure they know that the only way for them stay ahead is to further their technology and provide good value (45nm chips are really good value:P).
And yes three is not enough. Its never enough. Competition is good. You know why the margins on food are paper thin? Because their is a publix, wal-mart, target, albersons, and win-dixie in ever corner.
I agree...you're raking in massive profits. Heck on top of that even the government is giving you money why can't they just upgrade their network instead of staying with the status quo.
Instead of trying to make internet more expansive the United States telecoms want to make it cost more. I mean jesus christ we are one of the worst developed nations when it comes to internet connectivity. In Europe you can get double our speeds for the price of dial-up. Obviously their is very little costs on simply maintaining a network yet they continue to charge and rake in profits. These telecoms have no excuse. We fork over our money so you can maintain and grow your network...use it. Upgrade the Seconds Mile and start putting more efficient internet pipes. Obviously it has gotten to a point where it is becomes almost as bad as the oil companies. Just raking in profits and not using it for anything.
Considering I was the first post pretty sure noone else said that.
I am just saying that any competition is good. Heck if Microsoft wanted to make a chip that would be cool:P All I'm saying is the more the marrier. Now if only we had competition between our telecoms.
Competition can't hurt. Now that we have Intel, AMD/ATI, and Nvidia/VIA all throwing their hat in the ring it will keep prices down and of course spur innovation considering its a race to the find the best technology. Personally I would like to see Intel taken off it's high considering it delayed all their 45nm production just so they could sell out their older chips. Of course they were able to do that because AMD is so behind in the 45nm race.
So great hopefully we will see some real progress and we can have affordable laptops that have OK power. Because right now most normal laptops have integrated chips (you can't really fit a video card into a normal laptop) and of course the integrated card is horrible. Also the integrated card (at least in my laptop) sucks up all the power and makes my laptop have 3x less life. Also my integrated card overheats.
So yea it would be great if we could have decent video processing on normal mass market laptops.
I mean what the heck you can't sue someone simply for providing software which "might hurt your business". Lets wait for Microsoft to start suing download managers for having the possibility of being used to download Microsoft:P
unfair competition? That is like Microsoft suing Novell for competing with them. I mean what do have against them. "We feel it is immoral and highly harmful to standardized business practices to provide an alternative to standard more expansive forms of distribution."...
It was never meant to be a primary form of protection. As the documentation says "its another layer of protection". Basically it adds another layer but obviously its just extra, you still need to make it so your app is secure without it. But it can't hurt. There is a ton of little secuirty layers which can be bypassed. Like characters in a form...obviously you can change the form but that just makes it that much harder and doesn't really take away anything from a normal user.
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woah you lucky bastard. Where do you live?
They haven't layed down a single yard of fiber in the Southeast United States.
lol wow all I can say is that someone needs to get a life. Remind me not to make a comment on slash dot against. Apparently if you say anything ther is always a troll around the corner using childish insults. This is why bush was elected TWICE. It is bcause of red neck americans who think they are right about everything and believe that making an intelligent conversation is a waste of tim.
:P Have fun flaming.
Hey I hope you got your goals
Here is something that describes you trolls:
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20080227
You could be the stupidest poster I've ever seen, and I've been here since the beginning.
...you really need to get a life.
Seriously, 20+ posts in one day, and virtually all of them childish rants.
Get a life, then get a girlfriend, maybe then you won't have to splatter your middle school type rants all over the board.
PS, I hope you get AIDS, then your family gets asshole cancer, which, seeing as they're your family would be poetic justice.</quote>
and you call me childish?
Um all I can say is
Oh because I make intelligence that maybe aren't the same as everyone else. I'm sorry for posting a comment.
wow and the sad thing is you get you rocks off trolling slashdot and insulting strangers on the internet.
Hydrogen is insanely inefficient as an energy source and it requires a large amount of energy just o create it. Hydrogen is highly combustible and doesn't burn it simply ignites. now would you really want to drive a car where static can cause you to die instantly.
For one where would I get bio diesel from...I live in Miami. I can't ust go to a farm and ask for some corn.
And obviously I have a paid off car that is only 5 months away. I am not rich and I can't afford to just trade in my car.
And no I'm not making excuses I'm just saying the current situation for all but a select few of americans. We are all at the mercy of the oil companies. I can't stop driving because I need to work. The cost of living is insane here in florida and I have to work my ass off just to pay for rent and internet.
And jesus christ I WASNT TALKING ABOUT GAS i was just throwing that in as a joke you stupid troll. Of course the ISPs are making excuses. You know how cheap internet is europe. It's not because they can magically get cheap internet. The ISPs in Europe are still getting hefty profits. We are just a country full of corrupt politicians that are owned by large corporations.
well its quite obvious...the prices aren't artificially set like here. The market determines how much something costs. Remember that whole supply and demand thing....i thought that was a capitalist ideal...guess i was wrong *sigh*
I agree. We need regulation, obviously we tried to leave the telcoms alone for 20 years. You know what they did? They went reverse and merged right back into monopolies. Remember the "baby bells". That was done for a reason yet somehow our government discarded that and let the telcoms merge again.
We need regulation in the telcom industry. We have tried to let them be but obviously they have crossed the line. I believe in capitalism..but monopolies are the bain for capitalism. The whole purpose of capitalism is that "the market rules" and for companies to compete. Guess what if theirs a monopoly than it is no longer capitalism it is a form of communism in itself. We are being ruled by singular entities.
Ok if you really want to be an idiot an troll thats cool.
...Dear Troll...STFU
Biodiesel for one is fundamentally flawed because we would be doing the world even less of a service by cannibalizing our food supply. Besides I don't have a flex fuel car so how would that help me.
And yah because I'm going to trade in my year old car for a hybrid which costs an extra three thousand dollars. No I am sorry not every American is that rich. If I could afford a hybrid it would still cost more in the long run cause 3k buys you a shitload of gas.
Hydrogen cars are a joke because they have no power, it costs way too much to make hydrogen, and do you ever hear about the zephlin...it was hydrogen...guessed what happened to it? It blew up.
And you sir have no idea what I am talking about. Not only are all other options expensive but they are highly impractical.
Same with the ISPs there is nothing I can do. I am at the mercy of monopoly. I have two choices cable or AT&T (I have AT&T). So what is it that you want me to do? Is there an "inconvenient" way of getting cheap internet..no unless of course i drive around a neighborhood and leech off people's unprotected networks (which is a crime btw).
Of course the ISPs are making excuses. They are blaming the users for their network problem. They sold their customers that connection. Noone told the ISPs to oversell way more than their network could support. They are blaming everyone for their network being overloaded but It's there fault because they just pocketed the money they recieved. Obviously they are making a lot more money but they aren't spending a dime on the second mile.
Yah let me go ask the bank for a 100 million dollar load. And when i show them my buisness plan *starting ISP*.
But obviously the point is we need to upgrade the infrastructure we already have.
Although making an independent ISP based off fiber wire would be really successful if you had decent seed money.
well i had a $30 dedicated server and do u know how much bandwidth i got... ...Why are we paying 60 bucks a month for 3mbps connection with only 60kbytes. And on top of that we aren't even allowed to fully use that. Does anyone else see that. Obviously we have the connections, we have the capacity, the telecoms just overcharge.
I got a 100mbs connection with 200gb limit and for an extra 9 bucks you get an extra tb. I mean seriously if thats how much you pay for a 100mbps up/down (and trust me I use every last gigabyte) including the frinkin server. I mean 9 bucks for a tb.
Well than upgrade the networks. Whether they like it or not the internet is becoming a more two way experience. There is nothing that anyone is going to do about it. Fighting it is obviously not going to help. People are uploading movies to youtube, uploading photos to myspace and facebook, and using webcams.
It is not only P2P that uses upstream...its everything web 2.0
Maybe we need *ISP 2.0*
Well obviously they aren't making the 65nm ones (for good reason) but they wouldn't have done that to begin with if AMD had released its 45nm chips.
But thats not the point. I have intel stuff I love intel. They compete hard but I feel right now that AMD has slipped out of the consumer market Intel is not getting as much competition. Without competition Intel can sell their chips at whatever price they feel like. I jsut think someone needs to keep intel on their toes.
And I'm not saying anything negative against intel. They are ahead not because they bought out someone or because they are a monopoly but because they have really good products and much better manufacturing techniques.
now en days procs are becoming less important and now video cards are becoming more important. Even the best games don't really need too much CPU. Other than pysics CPUs are becoming less and less important. It is now secondary in high end gaming PCs. You won't see much of any difference between a 1k quad core or 200 dollar 45nm dual core in video gaming. Although you will see a huge difference between an 8600 GT and a 8800 GTS.
Hey nice job being a troll! Proof.....I don't know its quite simple:
Their network is almost 10 years old with only modest upgrades yet they have been charging us the same as they were 5 years ago. I still pay as much for DSL as I did 3 years ago. Apparently they don't follow the same principles as most tech companies. Instead of lowing their prices as their costs have gone down they level off their prices even as the technology becomes cheaper.
It's called moore's law. Though it was originally for CPUs it applies to all of technology. Stuff gets halved in price every 18 months.
I haven't seen my bills go down in last 18 months. I haven't seen any new DSL offices built. I haven't seen fiber being put down anywhere but the southeast. Heck by now we should have city wide wireless internet considering how cheap wireless networking equipment is. It only costs a million to wire whole city which is pretty damn cheap by any metric.
I mean seriously I know this ain't Europe because in Europe they don't allow themselves to get raped in the ass. They do something about it and put their monopolies to task.
IMO and do you really want to see the telcoms get to a point where they can tell us what we should pay and we pay it beause we have no choice. When I fill up gas I'm always pissed but I am completely powerless. all i can do is bend over and say "Chevron do your worst*.
On a side note: anyone want to join in a class action suit against Chevron and all the oil companies for repeated ass raping. Every time I go to the pump I feel like a prison bitch.
Now the point is...do you want AT&T and Comcast to become even more Oilesque
Yes AMD needs to get their shit in gear. They are getting their ass kicked by Intel (and rightfully so). Their chips are still in the dark ages and they are just barely making quad cores and more importantly 45nm processors. I pity the fool who buys a 300 dollar 65nm processor.
Now if Nvidia and VIA gets in the game and supplants amd are at least takes a small niche it will keep intel on their toes....without competition Intel could become like microsoft. They can artificially set their prices.
That is not the point. People don't understand that we are getting LESS value than before. They need to stop making excuses...upgrade their damn network and stop pocketing all our money...and btw your wrong that P2P is the biggest problem. 60% of internet traffic is video streaming.
Where is the "OMG THESE DAMN YOU TUBERS AND VIDEO GAME PLAYERS ARE SLOWING DOWN OUR NETWORK!".
They are just targeting P2P because everyone looks at P2Pers as leeches and because a lot of P2P of piracy noone will care if we cripple P2P networks so that we don't have as much load on our network.
I wouldn't really call this a merger. VIA is a processor maker and nvidia is a GPU maker obviously Nvidia's all-in-one chip wouldn't be viable on their own. VIA makes a lot cheaper and low power chips so for the purposes of this they have a leg up on intel. The whole point is you don't really need (or want for that matter) a fast, monster processor for a smart phone. But there could be obvious benefits to having a kickass video card....playing video. The same also applies to ultra portable laptops. Your not going to be using it for gaming (but you can if you want) but it's quite possible that your going to be watching on your ultra portable. Also the ability to output 1080p is insane.
:P).
Right now I just want to see Intel get off their high horse. Even though they haven't really done anything wrong and they are ahead for a reason (they made 45nm chips) I think that someone needs to keep intel in check and make sure they know that the only way for them stay ahead is to further their technology and provide good value (45nm chips are really good value
And yes three is not enough. Its never enough. Competition is good. You know why the margins on food are paper thin? Because their is a publix, wal-mart, target, albersons, and win-dixie in ever corner.
I agree...you're raking in massive profits. Heck on top of that even the government is giving you money why can't they just upgrade their network instead of staying with the status quo.
Instead of trying to make internet more expansive the United States telecoms want to make it cost more. I mean jesus christ we are one of the worst developed nations when it comes to internet connectivity. In Europe you can get double our speeds for the price of dial-up. Obviously their is very little costs on simply maintaining a network yet they continue to charge and rake in profits. These telecoms have no excuse. We fork over our money so you can maintain and grow your network...use it. Upgrade the Seconds Mile and start putting more efficient internet pipes. Obviously it has gotten to a point where it is becomes almost as bad as the oil companies. Just raking in profits and not using it for anything.
No...but I just said it wouldn't :P
:P All I'm saying is the more the marrier. Now if only we had competition between our telecoms.
Considering I was the first post pretty sure noone else said that.
I am just saying that any competition is good. Heck if Microsoft wanted to make a chip that would be cool
Competition can't hurt. Now that we have Intel, AMD/ATI, and Nvidia/VIA all throwing their hat in the ring it will keep prices down and of course spur innovation considering its a race to the find the best technology. Personally I would like to see Intel taken off it's high considering it delayed all their 45nm production just so they could sell out their older chips. Of course they were able to do that because AMD is so behind in the 45nm race.
So great hopefully we will see some real progress and we can have affordable laptops that have OK power. Because right now most normal laptops have integrated chips (you can't really fit a video card into a normal laptop) and of course the integrated card is horrible. Also the integrated card (at least in my laptop) sucks up all the power and makes my laptop have 3x less life. Also my integrated card overheats.
So yea it would be great if we could have decent video processing on normal mass market laptops.
Good Luck and may the best chip win!
LOL that would epic. And the defendant Microsoft pays the plaintiff Microsoft 20 M dollars.
:(
Sorry little Timmy you ain't getting any Christmas presents
I mean what the heck you can't sue someone simply for providing software which "might hurt your business". Lets wait for Microsoft to start suing download managers for having the possibility of being used to download Microsoft :P
unfair competition? That is like Microsoft suing Novell for competing with them. I mean what do have against them. "We feel it is immoral and highly harmful to standardized business practices to provide an alternative to standard more expansive forms of distribution." ...
WHATDAFUX
It was never meant to be a primary form of protection. As the documentation says "its another layer of protection". Basically it adds another layer but obviously its just extra, you still need to make it so your app is secure without it. But it can't hurt. There is a ton of little secuirty layers which can be bypassed. Like characters in a form...obviously you can change the form but that just makes it that much harder and doesn't really take away anything from a normal user.