Clean energy is *NOT* a free market issue, or even a regulated market issue. It is one of the greatest issues of our time, and it requires complete social support--as we defend our homelands from intruders--as we protect our liberty and freedom--we ought protect our lifesupport, our environmet.
There is a point where waiting for people to do the right thing on their own is not safe or wise.
China also is notorious for science fraud. From my observation, which can be summed up as a 'scientist browsing and delving into various pubs regularly', when there's fraud, it's usually in China.
And so your conclusion is that they don't publish any good research and that U.S. scientists never commit fraud (or publish bullshit research)?
No. That isn't my conclusion. I normally wouldn't answer a question this ridiculous, but I have a feeling you need extremely clearly stated words else your imagination starts pretending.
In kansas, use the molten salt. If i recall, a 5 megawatt generation station requires 25 acres. That's a pretty small piece of land compared to the size of land that is occupied by electricity users. My father actually owns slightly more than 25 acres, so I have a very good idea how big that is. It's not big. Using extremely fuzzy estimates, its like 1/8th mile by 1/4 mile.
The total energy consumption for humboldt county (which I might add is artificially high due to indoor cannabis cultivtion) averages about 100MWH.
Theoretically, my very large county could be powered by 20 of these plants totaling 500 acres.. thats nothing when the county has 2,560,000 acres. The PG&E Plant alone takes up about 40 acres I'd estimate. --- Now you see where the science behind green makes sense, and the popular pundit b.s. that is constantly echoed is just exaggerated doubt and nonsense claims.
You should consider: 1) The energy harvested by solar would hit the earth anyway, and thanks to laws of thermodynamics, we can't get 'more' from it than would already arrive. 2) The energy harvested using fossil fuels hit earth millions of years ago and was stored in chemical bonds that we break with combustion. If we otherwise did not choose to release this energy via combustion, it would stay in chemical form.
There is a difference. There is also no excess blanket of CO2 being produced, where carbon that has been absent from the atmosphere for millions of years is now reintroduced, and as it is a heat storing gas, it aides in global warming.
1) Large uphill reservoir. Water below it. 2) Excess energy produced in realtime is used to power pumps and run water uphill into the reservoir. 3) As realtime supply drops off and demand remains, water is released back through generators. -- There would be losses in the transfer from light - electric - kinetic - potential - kinetic - electric, but it would be easy and cheap to implement, and useful in nearly all parts of the world. --
Some other places are using large underground tubes filled with salts which are heated to be molten. This idea may serve to be far more convenient with the availability of salt pretty much everywhere.
Anyway --- the meme you echoed is popular pundit paid propaganda. You should know better, and now you do.
I agree.. mostly. The natural state of things would have the sunlight hit the natural objects like rocks, soil, shrubs.. whatevs. The energy being instead absorbed, transmitted, and then used elsewhere would impose *some* kind of imbalance or unnatural/irregularity. The degree to which this would matter is yet to be seen -- and the degree to which it matters as compared to using fossil fuels is NIL. So I agree mostly. Maybe in the year 2400, we have green energy out the wazoo, and we discover a new disruption we humans have naively overlooked... lol. And so goes the life force.. forward and strong, yet always in danger.
China also is notorious for science fraud. From my observation, which can be summed up as a 'scientist browsing and delving into various pubs regularly', when there's fraud, it's usually in China.
Things are getting a bit more interesting with the recent findings of foreign bg-algae on that asteroid as well. I know what venter is doing, and its pretty jawdropping to think about..... he would have been done a long time ago if the goal was to make replicating proteins like mad cow's disease.
I don't think we have the time it takes to go from chemicals, heat, and electricity, to anything resembling a life form... heck, we could take living organisms, put the mixture in a blender, breaking down to the whole library of monomers/polymers and we probably wouldn't observe the extremely unlikely event where some of it might form a 'living' organism.
In all cases, biology is amazing and its nice to see people out there with the same thirst.
Jc venter is very close to synthetic life where all things in the lifeform are synthrtic. As for what you asked earlier, many people have replicated the work. You have to look to find... yahoo news isn't about to publish astory where someone repeated something... get me?
OH WOW. I"ve read about a dozen replies and not a single one is good. And what's really scary is that about a quarter of those dozen replies are people saying they had ATT and tried to escape by going to t-mobile! WHOAH!
I realize this is bad for everyone, but I just didn't realize how much of 'everyone' was vocal and aware of it!
Knowing how the US and business works, 200 million people here could complain and the merger would still go through.
Why am I somehow expecting conservatives/republicans to be in support of this? First glance you would assume, no, this goes against free markets and 'competition; words that are often associated with the expressed goals of many-a-GOP member. But if the last 40 years of experience observing republicans/conservatives/gop serves me right, they will come out largely in support of the merge because its 'good for families', 'traditional', and a 'good idea for everyone". I would almost bet our security would be brought up in the argument to support as well....
...I want to see them sue colt and hk for not making guns for the blind.
I recently heard that all the dentists out there who have websites are being sued... yeah, life sucks when u have disability. In time most of us will be disabled. But a little dignity and realism goes a long way. You won't find me suing everyone that doesn't pander to my plight. Not everyone can do everything. That's life, not a lawsuit.
I want to see them sue colt and hk for not making guns for the blind.
I recently heard that all the dentists out there who have websites are being sued... yeah, life sucks when u have disability. In time most of us will be disabled. But a little dignity and realism goes a long way. You won't find me suing everyone that doesn't pander to my plight. Not everyone can do everything. That's life, not a lawsuit.
I understand fully. I'm glad we can agree here in the end. I argued with another person on this same thread who felt that the lack of honey was suffice to reject what is ultimately proven and right... There are many ways to accomplish a goal, or be active. In my sig you'll find I'm part of a politically active hip hop crew and we try our best to be positive and conscious in our lyrics. And while I am proud that we keep it far cleaner than most any other rap/hip-hop out there, I would be disappointed to know someone ignored or discredited the message for simple distaste in the chosen words.
On the note of your sig.... The sad thing about the national debt is that the people who largely are responsible for creating the debt, and have benefited from the borrowing, are now dying or dead. They got not only that which they worked for, but that which my kids (and I) will work for. Much of those who caused it, and stood to benefit, will pay nothing against it and won't even recognize the need to apologize.
Civility is one way to be active, but couth/tact is not always required and lack of such should not be a deciding factor as to the right/wrong of the situation. Punching someone would be wrong; you missed the point, again, for your lack of rational perspective. If you think the way a message is delivered will determine your ability to accept the facts in it, then you've missed some of the most important lessons in life and its hardly worth talking to you anymore. Done with you now.
If you call the police about an event involving what is a CIVIL matter, they will tell you to go file a civil suit and will go about their day. CRIMINAL matters are what the police are for. You're posting like you know what you're talking about, but you clearly don't.
Lack of couth is no reason to hold a truth-sayer as liar.
If I saw you do something wrong, and was in public talking to friends, I might say "that asshole just rammed his punkass car into that old lady and ran!" Would that make me wrong? And if that is what happened, would the lack of couth&tact have any compelling force for you to not believe further evidence? I would expect rational adults to see through the 'ghetto' or 'immaturity' and at least see the Truth. But then again, we have a nation largely voted by people involved in heavy spiritual fantasy, and now more and more digressing into a world where 'feelings' are valued over 'facts'.
Honest business is honest business. The sheer fact that they attempt to distinguish between user types is evidence that they can't/won't do it honestly. And as a consumer, I'm not reckless enough to blame the heavy users for the shady advertising and business practices of telecoms. You do realize they directly lie to us, right? ATT even recently stated (about a year ago, referred on slashdot) they could double available bandwidth at a cost of $6/user.
People need to stop pointing at heavy users because doing so is a way of, as a consumer, accepting and believing the lies we are told and displaying tolerance for dishonest business practice (like advertising a product as one thing but offering something far different in fine print).
So when your 10 year old (hypothetically) is asked what the answer to the problem on the board is, but he's busy expressing his freedom by playing Angry Birds, and so he says "what? nah I'm busy" in response, what then?
Or better yet... When your 10 year old, who will likely end up a failure for lack of focus, direction, structure, diligence, keeps using his distracting technology around my 10 year old to the degree that the class is dysfunctional... what then? I suppose we could have separate schools... schools for kids that care to learn and then schools for jerkoff kids that do whatever. We already kinda have it, but the 'do whatever' half day schools are getting so full that now the (its usually neglected kids that end up this way) bad kids are very common in even the regular public schools.
Yes, there is such a thing as 'too much freedom' when it comes to raising kids. The difference between freedom and limitations, in this case, is what we call PARENTING.
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Clean energy is *NOT* a free market issue, or even a regulated market issue. It is one of the greatest issues of our time, and it requires complete social support--as we defend our homelands from intruders--as we protect our liberty and freedom--we ought protect our lifesupport, our environmet.
There is a point where waiting for people to do the right thing on their own is not safe or wise.
China also is notorious for science fraud. From my observation, which can be summed up as a 'scientist browsing and delving into various pubs regularly', when there's fraud, it's usually in China.
And so your conclusion is that they don't publish any good research and that U.S. scientists never commit fraud (or publish bullshit research)?
No. That isn't my conclusion. I normally wouldn't answer a question this ridiculous, but I have a feeling you need extremely clearly stated words else your imagination starts pretending.
In kansas, use the molten salt. If i recall, a 5 megawatt generation station requires 25 acres. That's a pretty small piece of land compared to the size of land that is occupied by electricity users. My father actually owns slightly more than 25 acres, so I have a very good idea how big that is. It's not big. Using extremely fuzzy estimates, its like 1/8th mile by 1/4 mile.
The total energy consumption for humboldt county (which I might add is artificially high due to indoor cannabis cultivtion) averages about 100MWH.
Theoretically, my very large county could be powered by 20 of these plants totaling 500 acres.. thats nothing when the county has 2,560,000 acres. The PG&E Plant alone takes up about 40 acres I'd estimate.
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Now you see where the science behind green makes sense, and the popular pundit b.s. that is constantly echoed is just exaggerated doubt and nonsense claims.
Ooo, 5.5%. And it's *potentially* cheap!
The data you are sourcing and the point you are making are not relevant to each other.
Lifespan of product and production costs are something you would want to be talking about.
You should consider:
1) The energy harvested by solar would hit the earth anyway, and thanks to laws of thermodynamics, we can't get 'more' from it than would already arrive.
2) The energy harvested using fossil fuels hit earth millions of years ago and was stored in chemical bonds that we break with combustion. If we otherwise did not choose to release this energy via combustion, it would stay in chemical form.
There is a difference. There is also no excess blanket of CO2 being produced, where carbon that has been absent from the atmosphere for millions of years is now reintroduced, and as it is a heat storing gas, it aides in global warming.
There is a difference.
Let me describe a physical energy store.
1) Large uphill reservoir. Water below it.
2) Excess energy produced in realtime is used to power pumps and run water uphill into the reservoir.
3) As realtime supply drops off and demand remains, water is released back through generators.
--
There would be losses in the transfer from light - electric - kinetic - potential - kinetic - electric, but it would be easy and cheap to implement, and useful in nearly all parts of the world.
--
Some other places are using large underground tubes filled with salts which are heated to be molten. This idea may serve to be far more convenient with the availability of salt pretty much everywhere.
Anyway --- the meme you echoed is popular pundit paid propaganda. You should know better, and now you do.
I agree.. mostly. The natural state of things would have the sunlight hit the natural objects like rocks, soil, shrubs.. whatevs. The energy being instead absorbed, transmitted, and then used elsewhere would impose *some* kind of imbalance or unnatural/irregularity. The degree to which this would matter is yet to be seen -- and the degree to which it matters as compared to using fossil fuels is NIL. So I agree mostly. Maybe in the year 2400, we have green energy out the wazoo, and we discover a new disruption we humans have naively overlooked... lol. And so goes the life force.. forward and strong, yet always in danger.
China also is notorious for science fraud. From my observation, which can be summed up as a 'scientist browsing and delving into various pubs regularly', when there's fraud, it's usually in China.
They said we're all gonna dieeeeee!!!!!
But apparently I find out how, after these commercials... damnit! Now I gotta hang around this channel all day!
Things are getting a bit more interesting with the recent findings of foreign bg-algae on that asteroid as well. I know what venter is doing, and its pretty jawdropping to think about..... he would have been done a long time ago if the goal was to make replicating proteins like mad cow's disease.
I don't think we have the time it takes to go from chemicals, heat, and electricity, to anything resembling a life form... heck, we could take living organisms, put the mixture in a blender, breaking down to the whole library of monomers/polymers and we probably wouldn't observe the extremely unlikely event where some of it might form a 'living' organism.
In all cases, biology is amazing and its nice to see people out there with the same thirst.
Jc venter is very close to synthetic life where all things in the lifeform are synthrtic. As for what you asked earlier, many people have replicated the work. You have to look to find... yahoo news isn't about to publish astory where someone repeated something... get me?
ATT is also now crackign down on the wireless tethering that is not being explicitly paid for (the rooted kind).
OH WOW. I"ve read about a dozen replies and not a single one is good. And what's really scary is that about a quarter of those dozen replies are people saying they had ATT and tried to escape by going to t-mobile! WHOAH!
I realize this is bad for everyone, but I just didn't realize how much of 'everyone' was vocal and aware of it!
Knowing how the US and business works, 200 million people here could complain and the merger would still go through.
I have sprint and I love it.
Why am I somehow expecting conservatives/republicans to be in support of this? First glance you would assume, no, this goes against free markets and 'competition; words that are often associated with the expressed goals of many-a-GOP member. But if the last 40 years of experience observing republicans/conservatives/gop serves me right, they will come out largely in support of the merge because its 'good for families', 'traditional', and a 'good idea for everyone". I would almost bet our security would be brought up in the argument to support as well....
...I want to see them sue colt and hk for not making guns for the blind.
I recently heard that all the dentists out there who have websites are being sued... yeah, life sucks when u have disability. In time most of us will be disabled. But a little dignity and realism goes a long way. You won't find me suing everyone that doesn't pander to my plight. Not everyone can do everything. That's life, not a lawsuit.
I want to see them sue colt and hk for not making guns for the blind.
I recently heard that all the dentists out there who have websites are being sued... yeah, life sucks when u have disability. In time most of us will be disabled. But a little dignity and realism goes a long way. You won't find me suing everyone that doesn't pander to my plight. Not everyone can do everything. That's life, not a lawsuit.
.. go fix it. No need to sit around and get all freaked out for one more foxnewsin' reason. Just fix it and move on.
I understand fully. I'm glad we can agree here in the end. I argued with another person on this same thread who felt that the lack of honey was suffice to reject what is ultimately proven and right... There are many ways to accomplish a goal, or be active. In my sig you'll find I'm part of a politically active hip hop crew and we try our best to be positive and conscious in our lyrics. And while I am proud that we keep it far cleaner than most any other rap/hip-hop out there, I would be disappointed to know someone ignored or discredited the message for simple distaste in the chosen words.
On the note of your sig.... The sad thing about the national debt is that the people who largely are responsible for creating the debt, and have benefited from the borrowing, are now dying or dead. They got not only that which they worked for, but that which my kids (and I) will work for. Much of those who caused it, and stood to benefit, will pay nothing against it and won't even recognize the need to apologize.
Civility is one way to be active, but couth/tact is not always required and lack of such should not be a deciding factor as to the right/wrong of the situation. Punching someone would be wrong; you missed the point, again, for your lack of rational perspective. If you think the way a message is delivered will determine your ability to accept the facts in it, then you've missed some of the most important lessons in life and its hardly worth talking to you anymore. Done with you now.
If you call the police about an event involving what is a CIVIL matter, they will tell you to go file a civil suit and will go about their day. CRIMINAL matters are what the police are for. You're posting like you know what you're talking about, but you clearly don't.
Lack of couth is no reason to hold a truth-sayer as liar.
If I saw you do something wrong, and was in public talking to friends, I might say "that asshole just rammed his punkass car into that old lady and ran!" Would that make me wrong? And if that is what happened, would the lack of couth&tact have any compelling force for you to not believe further evidence? I would expect rational adults to see through the 'ghetto' or 'immaturity' and at least see the Truth. But then again, we have a nation largely voted by people involved in heavy spiritual fantasy, and now more and more digressing into a world where 'feelings' are valued over 'facts'.
So you're against activism when it doesn't have sugar coated smiles and modest handouts?
Go play more candyland. The real world, and the hard work it takes to make things better, is far too 'dirty' for you I'd guess.
Honest business is honest business. The sheer fact that they attempt to distinguish between user types is evidence that they can't/won't do it honestly. And as a consumer, I'm not reckless enough to blame the heavy users for the shady advertising and business practices of telecoms. You do realize they directly lie to us, right? ATT even recently stated (about a year ago, referred on slashdot) they could double available bandwidth at a cost of $6/user.
People need to stop pointing at heavy users because doing so is a way of, as a consumer, accepting and believing the lies we are told and displaying tolerance for dishonest business practice (like advertising a product as one thing but offering something far different in fine print).
So when your 10 year old (hypothetically) is asked what the answer to the problem on the board is, but he's busy expressing his freedom by playing Angry Birds, and so he says "what? nah I'm busy" in response, what then?
Or better yet... When your 10 year old, who will likely end up a failure for lack of focus, direction, structure, diligence, keeps using his distracting technology around my 10 year old to the degree that the class is dysfunctional... what then? I suppose we could have separate schools... schools for kids that care to learn and then schools for jerkoff kids that do whatever. We already kinda have it, but the 'do whatever' half day schools are getting so full that now the (its usually neglected kids that end up this way) bad kids are very common in even the regular public schools.
Yes, there is such a thing as 'too much freedom' when it comes to raising kids. The difference between freedom and limitations, in this case, is what we call PARENTING.