First, there is a complete listing of theatres at www.fantasia200.com, second I saw in a dome theatre at the Science Museum of Virgina so it is being shown in domes FYI, third over 90 percent of the film was computer animated according to a recent computer graphics magazine interview with the artists. Major exceptions to the CGI were, of course, the sorcerer's apprentice and of note, the eyes of the whales in Pines of Rome. Interesting that they decided to draw single features such as eyes by hand.... Anyway, the agument about no CGI is bogus, the film is almost all CGI based, which actually makes sense if you think about the incredible resolution IMAX demands. If you blew up a hand drawn image to that size, it simply would look drawn no matter how careful you were in post-production. The posters discussing the lack of Mind's Eye graphics are funny in that they were shown the high end of computer graphics and didn't even know it, ROFL.
It is an incredible film, and the choice in music is unreal. Money and having to travel, for me, was no object in seeing it, since I've always been creatively inspired by the first film, and I think it was probably my introduction to classical music in the 70's. As far as being a good inheritor of the Fantasia name, I definitely believe that Roy Disney is setting off on the right track to fulfill his father's vision. Now if only he can produce another one this lifetime?....
-Wanrat
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I don't know about your experiences in life, but I think it happens this way more than u'd think. Today, I'm a successful DBA for a major company, but yesterday... in the 80's.... in high school particularly, it was NOT cool to be associated with computers or that scene in general. More people collect Mp3's than just freaks. I personally hate ICQ and IRC, but I respect the people who use these technologies as a part of the overall whole. I don't want to be labelled as anything, but admittedly a geek is not a bad think to be in my mind. I genuinely respect the kids who are out there writing wickedly fast code in the demoscene, and I see testamonials from folks like John Carmack who openly admits to a childhood of questionable social standing (I believe amoral was the description he used). These people are not normal in the strict sense. They almost uniformly do not conform to the drab grey dilbertesque cube life of the corporate standard, even if they work there. I think you've identified a minority of people in the pr0n/crack site crowd, and have overlooked the large numbers of people who, in the course of the last few years , have established themselves as geeks by action not speech. When I became a geek, we had no imitators, and I assure you I CAN code on that level. -wanrat
It would seem logical that Linus's lawyer would be able to do something about this, as they did with the domain prospecters recently. It makes sense to try to get past this as quickly as possible rather than turning it into an even longer debate than it already is (as we are prone to do wayyyy too much dammit). It's stuff like this that can really hurt Linux's chance in the business environment for all of us. Shut em down before they cause real harm.
I agree with you, except to note that many of the smaller e-commerce sites have opted to integrate their processes on a single box to save money. This is noble and all, except, as you noted, when it gets carried too far (in the direction of miserliness). Actually, in some respects, the argument towards running multiple processes on a single server could be validated for security reasons themselves. I mean, past a certain point where you have the server into a current-patch/known good state, my first instinct is to reduce the number of necessary connections of any kind to try to keep it as safe as possible. An ODBC call to another server is just another link to hack at.
Someone above posted the correct answer which is: these guys just stripped the info out of 1)MS SQL's enterprise manager using either the default login, 2) by exploiting an extended stored proc., or 3) by stripping login info out of the.asp page or from the global.asa file at the root of the asp distribution directory. ALL of these holes are patchable, and were required fixes by MS. ANY site who has a DBA on staff should be aware of these things and should already have them patched. MSNBC likely used the extended url hack on IIS to read the global.asa file which has the u/p embedded in it. This is not really MS's fault, as hacks will be created on every platform... this is the fault of the folks who hired second rate, underqualified DBA's and network engineers. Even given a local login and straight access to the site, the SQL Server can be made inaccessable simply by implementing application specific security (under 7). This is, once again, a foresight and planning problem and is not necessarily the fault of the technology. My Redhat/Oracle box winds up with many many security patches as well, so we in the Linux community are not immune to this kind of stuff. Actually, I'm surprised that the people who skimped on their network weren't hacked up until now. (the frightening thing is... maybe they have been muhahahahaha)
-Wanrat
hehe it's 10pm, do you know where your credit card is?
I think referring to internet addiction is kind of like referring to an addiction to reading or to knowledge.... is it a bad thing? I make a very good living out of being familiar with and being able to program computers. I probably spend 12-15 hours a day in front of some kind of interface to a network of some type, yet I can still get out and camp, backpack, and spend time in nature because these are things that I also truly enjoy. I think it's a Good Thing to have our up and comers be wired as much as possible, if for no other reason but to be able to compete with the astounding number of high tech folks overseas. I would think that to clasify the whole thing as an addiction is incorrect, it's more a lifestyle choice.
It's interesting to note that the people noted in the article are neither anti-social nor self-destructive, they merely are choosing to express themselves through a new medium. I say NP;-)
On a relational note, I seem to remember that the alt.scientology folks went about self moderating usenet to remove offending posts about their beloved L. Ron a few years ago, and it was never resolved exactly how to approach/moderate the Usenet hierarchy in general. Self-moderating is a misleading term, since only a few Admins are capable of actually issuing something like a UDP (outside of alt. of course). Eventually, the issue of spam and individual user rights on Usenet has to be adressed, but I for one believe that you kinda gotta take the good with the bad (*Raise Flame shields*), and let the spammers post their crap in the name of protecting the ability to post any and every idea, trivial or not.
Regardless to personal comments about Mr. Katz which seems to abound on/., he has a very good point. The people who lose here are the consumers and the employees. I believe Ted Turner decribed it as a sex-like experience when he signed away the future of his staff at Time Warner. Don't believe me? Ask the folks at Netscape where their careers went when AOL moved in. Case almost surely has something specific in mind for Time-Warner, much as he did for Netscape's "web portal", everything else will likely be tossed aside.
The other really bad point is that AOL is about money, with very little focus on technology. The most consistant way to generate money on the net is through sales and advertising. Time-Warner subscribers are almost certain to be forced back into the AOL shell for at least network connectivity in order to provide the Publisher, AOL, with a window to spam you, probably kind of like the netzero and geocities java spamlet trash. They are almost certainly not above re-publishing their subscriber database information to marketing firms to help said firms fill your mailboxes every month... aren't you lucky? The used car salesman is marrying the media whore. There goes the neighborhood;-(
It seems like the future envisioned in the article would lead to corporate excesses of a kind never seen before in presenting spam. I, for one, have no desire to have a synthesized voice come at me from my mailbox touting the virtues of the lastest fad product. Geez, at least with telemarketing you can hang up the phone.
You can bet that marketing is the #1 target audience here, and that if it ever gets funded that's who'll do it.
I6v6 is slanted to replace ip fairly soon, and I'm interested to see a logical opinion of what exactly we can expect to finally emerge from the encrypted vs. un-encrypted packets crowd. It seems like including strong encryption would be illegal if exported at all, but what of packets that travel to Hawaii via Japan, or similar such routing issues?
Also, with the NSA and other world intellegence organisations fully shoving public key escrow down our throats, any ideas as to how they can force compliance without violation of every personal freedom to which we are legally guaranteed? (at least as Americans) It seems like the only way to enforce this mandate is to allow for some type of invasive auditing of inter-networked computers, which is a little too big brotherish for me.
Please excuze my blending of personal freedom issues with censorship, but it seems to me that they are on the same side of the coin in that, to prevent censorship we certainly require anonymity and the ability to present controvertial ideas.
As a new North Carolina resident in the high tech industry, I can say from experience that the taxes here are ALREADY outrageous. My wife is a teacher, and lemme tell you, the income is most certainly not going to pay public servents. North Carolina Teachers have one of the worst pay rates in the counrtry, she took a $10k pay cut to come here. I understand that the Police and fire services will not be retiring early to Tahiti either. The sad part of the situation is the annoying tendency for we the people to do nothing as long as we still get Wheel of Fortune at 7. This policy and law have truly offended me, especially in light of the reasons given, which are ambiguous at best. If they taxed e-commerce to provide better phone or network services, perhaps I could see the process with more understanding, however I have no intention to fund someone's pet project with my family's income. Wasn't there just rioting in Seattle about this? E-commerce is flamboyant and obnoxious at its worst, but at its best it can equalize the playing field in business for the world. It's simply too important to let trends such as this pass unprotested.
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Following up on my earlier posting, the entire article can be read online at www.cgw.com. L8r - Wanrat
First, there is a complete listing of theatres at www.fantasia200.com, second I saw in a dome theatre at the Science Museum of Virgina so it is being shown in domes FYI, third over 90 percent of the film was computer animated according to a recent computer graphics magazine interview with the artists. Major exceptions to the CGI were, of course, the sorcerer's apprentice and of note, the eyes of the whales in Pines of Rome. Interesting that they decided to draw single features such as eyes by hand.... Anyway, the agument about no CGI is bogus, the film is almost all CGI based, which actually makes sense if you think about the incredible resolution IMAX demands. If you blew up a hand drawn image to that size, it simply would look drawn no matter how careful you were in post-production. The posters discussing the lack of Mind's Eye graphics are funny in that they were shown the high end of computer graphics and didn't even know it, ROFL.
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It is an incredible film, and the choice in music is unreal. Money and having to travel, for me, was no object in seeing it, since I've always been creatively inspired by the first film, and I think it was probably my introduction to classical music in the 70's. As far as being a good inheritor of the Fantasia name, I definitely believe that Roy Disney is setting off on the right track to fulfill his father's vision. Now if only he can produce another one this lifetime?
-Wanrat
I don't know about your experiences in life, but I think it happens this way more than u'd think. Today, I'm a successful DBA for a major company, but yesterday... in the 80's.... in high school particularly, it was NOT cool to be associated with computers or that scene in general. More people collect Mp3's than just freaks. I personally hate ICQ and IRC, but I respect the people who use these technologies as a part of the overall whole. I don't want to be labelled as anything, but admittedly a geek is not a bad think to be in my mind. I genuinely respect the kids who are out there writing wickedly fast code in the demoscene, and I see testamonials from folks like John Carmack who openly admits to a childhood of questionable social standing (I believe amoral was the description he used). These people are not normal in the strict sense. They almost uniformly do not conform to the drab grey dilbertesque cube life of the corporate standard, even if they work there. I think you've identified a minority of people in the pr0n/crack site crowd, and have overlooked the large numbers of people who, in the course of the last few years , have established themselves as geeks by action not speech. When I became a geek, we had no imitators, and I assure you I CAN code on that level. -wanrat
It would seem logical that Linus's lawyer would be able to do something about this, as they did with the domain prospecters recently. It makes sense to try to get past this as quickly as possible rather than turning it into an even longer debate than it already is (as we are prone to do wayyyy too much dammit). It's stuff like this that can really hurt Linux's chance in the business environment for all of us. Shut em down before they cause real harm.
I agree with you, except to note that many of the smaller e-commerce sites have opted to integrate their processes on a single box to save money. This is noble and all, except, as you noted, when it gets carried too far (in the direction of miserliness). Actually, in some respects, the argument towards running multiple processes on a single server could be validated for security reasons themselves. I mean, past a certain point where you have the server into a current-patch/known good state, my first instinct is to reduce the number of necessary connections of any kind to try to keep it as safe as possible. An ODBC call to another server is just another link to hack at.
Someone above posted the correct answer which is: these guys just stripped the info out of 1)MS SQL's enterprise manager using either the default login, 2) by exploiting an extended stored proc., or 3) by stripping login info out of the .asp page or from the global.asa file at the root of the asp distribution directory. ALL of these holes are patchable, and were required fixes by MS. ANY site who has a DBA on staff should be aware of these things and should already have them patched. MSNBC likely used the extended url hack on IIS to read the global.asa file which has the u/p embedded in it. This is not really MS's fault, as hacks will be created on every platform... this is the fault of the folks who hired second rate, underqualified DBA's and network engineers. Even given a local login and straight access to the site, the SQL Server can be made inaccessable simply by implementing application specific security (under 7). This is, once again, a foresight and planning problem and is not necessarily the fault of the technology. My Redhat/Oracle box winds up with many many security patches as well, so we in the Linux community are not immune to this kind of stuff. Actually, I'm surprised that the people who skimped on their network weren't hacked up until now. (the frightening thing is... maybe they have been muhahahahaha)
-Wanrat
hehe it's 10pm, do you know where your credit card is?
I think referring to internet addiction is kind of like referring to an addiction to reading or to knowledge.... is it a bad thing? I make a very good living out of being familiar with and being able to program computers. I probably spend 12-15 hours a day in front of some kind of interface to a network of some type, yet I can still get out and camp, backpack, and spend time in nature because these are things that I also truly enjoy. I think it's a Good Thing to have our up and comers be wired as much as possible, if for no other reason but to be able to compete with the astounding number of high tech folks overseas. I would think that to clasify the whole thing as an addiction is incorrect, it's more a lifestyle choice.
;-)
It's interesting to note that the people noted in the article are neither anti-social nor self-destructive, they merely are choosing to express themselves through a new medium. I say NP
On a relational note, I seem to remember that the alt.scientology folks went about self moderating usenet to remove offending posts about their beloved L. Ron a few years ago, and it was never resolved exactly how to approach/moderate the Usenet hierarchy in general. Self-moderating is a misleading term, since only a few Admins are capable of actually issuing something like a UDP (outside of alt. of course). Eventually, the issue of spam and individual user rights on Usenet has to be adressed, but I for one believe that you kinda gotta take the good with the bad (*Raise Flame shields*), and let the spammers post their crap in the name of protecting the ability to post any and every idea, trivial or not.
-just My 2cents
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/., he has a very good point. The people who lose here are the consumers and the employees. I believe Ted Turner decribed it as a sex-like experience when he signed away the future of his staff at Time Warner. Don't believe me? Ask the folks at Netscape where their careers went when AOL moved in. Case almost surely has something specific in mind for Time-Warner, much as he did for Netscape's "web portal", everything else will likely be tossed aside.
;-(
Regardless to personal comments about Mr. Katz which seems to abound on
The other really bad point is that AOL is about money, with very little focus on technology. The most consistant way to generate money on the net is through sales and advertising. Time-Warner subscribers are almost certain to be forced back into the AOL shell for at least network connectivity in order to provide the Publisher, AOL, with a window to spam you, probably kind of like the netzero and geocities java spamlet trash. They are almost certainly not above re-publishing their subscriber database information to marketing firms to help said firms fill your mailboxes every month... aren't you lucky? The used car salesman is marrying the media whore. There goes the neighborhood
It seems like the future envisioned in the article would lead to corporate excesses of a kind never seen before in presenting spam. I, for one, have no desire to have a synthesized voice come at me from my mailbox touting the virtues of the lastest fad product. Geez, at least with telemarketing you can hang up the phone.
You can bet that marketing is the #1 target audience here, and that if it ever gets funded that's who'll do it.
I6v6 is slanted to replace ip fairly soon, and I'm interested to see a logical opinion of what exactly we can expect to finally emerge from the encrypted vs. un-encrypted packets crowd. It seems like including strong encryption would be illegal if exported at all, but what of packets that travel to Hawaii via Japan, or similar such routing issues?
Also, with the NSA and other world intellegence organisations fully shoving public key escrow down our throats, any ideas as to how they can force compliance without violation of every personal freedom to which we are legally guaranteed? (at least as Americans) It seems like the only way to enforce this mandate is to allow for some type of invasive auditing of inter-networked computers, which is a little too big brotherish for me.
Please excuze my blending of personal freedom issues with censorship, but it seems to me that they are on the same side of the coin in that, to prevent censorship we certainly require anonymity and the ability to present controvertial ideas.
As a new North Carolina resident in the high tech industry, I can say from experience that the taxes here are ALREADY outrageous. My wife is a teacher, and lemme tell you, the income is most certainly not going to pay public servents. North Carolina Teachers have one of the worst pay rates in the counrtry, she took a $10k pay cut to come here. I understand that the Police and fire services will not be retiring early to Tahiti either. The sad part of the situation is the annoying tendency for we the people to do nothing as long as we still get Wheel of Fortune at 7. This policy and law have truly offended me, especially in light of the reasons given, which are ambiguous at best. If they taxed e-commerce to provide better phone or network services, perhaps I could see the process with more understanding, however I have no intention to fund someone's pet project with my family's income. Wasn't there just rioting in Seattle about this? E-commerce is flamboyant and obnoxious at its worst, but at its best it can equalize the playing field in business for the world. It's simply too important to let trends such as this pass unprotested.