"Well I personally use Frontpage Java Edition because it's more *efficient* than ugh writing "code". I mean get with the times, nobody can program a *real* application in an IDE in 2020, it's impossible!" - 22 year old code monkey, 19 August 2020
I can understand using Eclipse for Java with it's multitude of libraries, clases and threeHundrendAndFiftyMillionCharacter class and method names, but for Perl? Really?
And surely a 400MB editor is overkill for HTML and CSS which requires nothing more than a syntax highlighting text editor...
"I didn't say the IDE was more "powerful", I just said it was more efficient. And it is."
That's a big call.
I've started programming in Java and am using Netbeans (Eclipse would barely even *run* on this machine, utter rubbish).
- Often it autocompletes completely the wrong variable and keeps going as though there's no problem, try debug that in a hurry! - It trains you to be lazy and not hold variable & method names and the overall structure of the app in your mind. - Adding libraries is a simple affair, except when it breaks..and it does. And then of course you've never had to manually do any of it so don't know how to fix it... - Bloated - Ridiculously Bloated, at least it runs though
I've found that I'm equally as productive using Kate as I am in Netbeans.
I do love the Autodoc popups in Netbeans though, very nice and makes it worth using when you've got massive third party libraries imported as I do.
Now I'm no christian, but I'll tell you that there's a little problem that you techie "athiests" that seem to be the popular crowd on these sorts of sites have lately.
You all seem to becoming a little unhinged and quite distant from regular boring old people. 7 or 8 years ago atheists were pretty thoughtful individuals, these days the average "atheist" around these parts is *worse* than the born-agains EVER WERE.
In fact I'd say that your the opposite side of the same bent coin as the ultra religious and getting about this internet like I do I must say that lately when a bunch of "atheists" get together it's starting to sound a lot like when a bunch of born-agains get together. Lot's of self congratulations, lots of ridiculous 'arguments' and a laundry list of worthless worn out sound bites.
Here's the list of approved mindless soundbites and talking points guaranteed to have everyone thinking your the coolest mofo in your groups:
Stating as a matter fact that christians are child abusers. Calling for religion to be banned. Calling religion a cult. Stating as a matter of fact that the 'forefathers' were atheists. Using the phrase Zombie Jesus.
The following is an important part of being a cool and popular atheist:
Know *nothing* about the other groups philosophy:
Never stepped foot inside a church but seen a lot of movies? Then don't worry, just assume that Catholicism = all christianity and the 1% you know about *that* means that you know have an indepth knowledge about "christianity" and it's hundred or so distinct branches.
Cherry pick your people: Feel free to assume that the other group are mentally deficient. Conveniently ignore the giants of history who also subscribed to that groups philosophy.
Remember the Crusades!: Don't forget to mention the Crusades! But at all costs forget about Stalin, Mao & Pol Pot. Though they did indeed have people rounded up specifically for publicly believing in any sort of god; that's uncomfortably close to what you advocate so feel free to apologise for them! Their actions were just misunderstood right?
Go to the extreme: Find nutcases and who spout religion and state emphatically that it's religion that made them nutcases
Go to the middle: Find Humans erring as Humans do and point out what hypocrites *all* religious folk are based on the actions of a few.
Look I don't care about these silly little internet holy wars but the techie "atheist" circle jerk that starts up anytime somoeone mentions anything even related to religion no matter how obscure is starting to get a little out of hand.
Please stop, or their will be a general backlash against atheists in general.
"Companies like Apple" only account for a tiny fraction of the wealth in any country, state or city, not to mention bring almost no tax revenue.
It's small and medium sized businesses that run economies, that's who states and cities should cater to. Bringing in single large entities has it's own very real sets of problems for cities as well - and often ends up being a tax burden on anyone who isn't employed by the company.
But not Mexico? The rich pay very little there if they know the right people.
Or hell what about Somalia with their ultra rock bottom tax rates?
Oh, they just want *other* people to pay the taxes that fund their state and country. Once they become rich then fuck paying back into the state that enabled them to gather that wealth ay? Someone else can do it.
Good long term plan for any society that's for sure.
"You can complain all you want, but if you look at the numbers you'll find the top 1% of earners pay 40% (or more) of income taxes."
You're entirely correct,
I wish we had a time machine, then we could go back to Feudal Europe where the Lords used to pay 80% of all the taxes and tell the upstart peasants who only paid 10% of the overall taxes to shut the fuck up and learn their place under the feet of the top 1% of 'earners'. The lords owned 95% of all the land, resources and had 80% more influence over the king than the peasants to make laws to suit themselves and had the kings army to back them up if the peasants got a bit unruly - but that's no matter. They earned that money and position damn it!
Damned peasants not accepting their lot.
Did you miss the fact that 60% of the worlds 'wealth' was lost last year?? I guess there's a few less millionaires no?
Business taxes exist to prevent business owners from hiding their personal wealth inside the business to avoid personal taxes.
"Oh that 10million dollar mansion, no that's not mine! That's the businesses. I just stay there".
"Oh that Ferrari, no that's the businesses."
"Yacht? Businesses, not mine - see no income so no tax".
Then at the end of the financial year these things are claimed as deductions against the business income so the sales tax paid on them is effectively wiped out.
Outcome: A person living in a 10 million dollar home, with all the trimmings and expenses paid for, driving a ferrari with a 50ft Yacht who earns 10K a year and pays no income tax and no sales tax either.
That's what various business taxes are there for, to make it less desirable to play games like this as the BUSINESS will be taxed. Despite what the naive upper-class worshipping lick-spittles on these sorts of sites like to think.
"What the rich might not be demi-gods and will try and pay no tax at all and let the peons shoulder the majority of the burden?? Unthinkable!."
So all I have to do to avoid paying taxes in your fantasy world is to put everything into my businesses name and buy everything through my business?
That would be nice! Because I could probably put 80% of my personal expenses through my current businesses no problems.
So then it's the wage slaves who are going to pay all the taxes. Oh and because I also get to write you off as an expense against my "income" as well I pay even less!
Various plastics will probably be this generations lead.
I'm sure the people who were the first to become sceptical of lead were called fucking idiots too.
Just like the poor bastard who tried to convince doctors to *wash their hands* before cutting people open was.
Just like the guy who tried to tell 19th century England that it's widespread disease was due to people living in and drinking their own raw sewage - rather than the 'miasma'.
Established norms are *hard* to dislodge until there's mass irrefutable proof that can't be hand waved away. To bad that mass proof equals mass amounts of people ill affected. History proves quite tidily that in any given area the general public lag significantly on acceptance when mainstream things are found to be very harmful.
Don't wait until the masses are ok with something, especially when It's just as easy to do things to protect yourself and family now - like buying glass bottles.
(Wait until we find out the long term effects of the new ways of growing meat feed lot style! I have two acquaintances who work in abattoirs who won't touch meat unless they know where it's come from because of what they are seeing coming out of feedlot beef.)
We bought glass bottles for our little ones. Simple solutions are better solutions.
They've lasted and now we're using the same bottles for our second, they're cheaper over the long run far more sanitary and better for the environment. Also gives you that nice old school feeling.
I'm shocked that there's so many over reactors in the world.
You get three goes to get the pin right before the bank will lock the account.
3 attempts to get 10,000 possible combinations correct.
4 digit pins on cards have been around for at least two decades and have *never* been an issue, because there's no vector, you can't brute force a traditional pin because the system locks the account as soon as your start.
There's security then there's misplaced "Well *I'm* more secure than you with my 10 billion digit pin" irrationality.
I'll take security thanks.
Not to mention the obvious; that if 85% of people are doing it and their money isn't being stolen from their bank accounts via legitimate pin guessing then it's not something that's a problem, if it was then 4 digit pins would be no more.
"Who, pray tell, do you believe is supposed to judge who has a valid case or not? What would you call the person who you have the job of making that judgement?"
People who think TV shows like CSI and Bones are a representation of the real world are unaware of things called "judges" and "due process" and hell even court rooms and other such boring tedium. They suffer the delusion that real world police departments have quirky, supremely arrogant yet infinitely knowledgeable individuals who have access to multi-million dollar cutting edge technology and are super human enough to be investigator, judge *and* jury without prejudice - despite their supreme arrogance.
A huge number of peoples real world idea of the whole police process is completely formed by these ridiculously unrealistic TV shows, shows where the respective police departments are operating more in the way that police departments operate in Latin America and various SE Asian countries; without any external bounds at all.
Simply put some (many) people can't separate entertainment from reality which I would gamble is why the parent innocently demands to know why the process isn't being followed. Unfortunately the process as he understands it, is a mish-mash of complete works of fiction and probably a single 7th grade civics class.
Well in any given public place (just personally) I expect not to have someone following me around 24 hours a day 7 days a week writing detailed descriptions about where I go, what rooms I go into, what I buy, what I wonder and what people other people are saying to me.
Which is exactly what Google knows through search, gmail, adwords, adsense and analytics, all nicely integrated as they are.
If you go to any site displaying google ads or using analytics (probably 80% of sites), yes Google knows you.
Just take a look at the tight combination of analytics, adwords and adsense. And that's the extremely limited view that the public gets. Google would have an extraordinary view of any given individual. And not just an anonymous statistical view, a personal we know your name and private thoughts view. Even if you don't have a gmail account.
If people choose to involve themselves with Google that is their right, but Google isn't just a benevolent charity.
You have absolutely *no* basis for any of what you just said.
You've fabricated a complete fantasy and presented it as fact, you are the person you rail against - a conspiracy theorist of a slightly different stripe.
There's a million explanations of what could have happened. The only rational thing to do is wait for some ort of investigation to produce results. To present a fantasy of your own making then state that it's case closed is the hieght of stupidity.
The fact that you are modded to +5 insightful glaringly shows the extreme need for the people in this tiny little group to believe that everything in life is peachy squeaky clean and just an innocent accident. Thank god none of you are cops, nobody would ever be arrested!
"See officer what happened is the person was just cleaning my gun and it accidently shot and then the wind blew their money into my pocket. As you know there's no such thing as malice!"
Here in Aus there's an extraordinarily antisocial type of 'driver' who will do 20 under the limit for half an hour banking up 30 cars behind them and then when people start to overtake them en-masse put their foot down, usually while there's someone beside them. Then when the overtaking lane ends they'll back off again and continue holding people up.
What's the person beside them supposed to do when the person they're 3/4 past moves up to the speed limit? Slam on the brakes? Usually there's someone behind them overtaking as well. In any case, it's the person being overtaken who's behaving recklessly.
Peg it 10kph over the limit for 5 seconds to get around them is safer than the bloody dangerous response you describe in C.
A. You obviously never drive outside of four lane highways. the level of ignorance is astounding B. Correct, unless the above happens - and it happens all the bloody time here, especially in the holidays when people like you get out of the cities and actually encounter a corner or two. C. If your 3/4 of the way past, aborting is extraordinarily dangerous for *both* cars and anyone behind. Not to mention if there's someone behind you trying to overtake as well, as there usually is, or someone behind the car your overtaking who's closed up the gap that you left.
Lemme guess you don't drive on B roads much, and when you do your ever so careful and the 30 cars backed up behind you are just 'bad aggressive drivers' but your doing the best you can, your driving to the conditions and it's everyone else who's the 'bad driver'.
The worst thing is when your overtaking someone who's been sitting 20 under and your 3/4 of the way past them and they are one of those deadly fools who gently speeds up when people overtake or there's a bit of open road (where the overtaking lane inevitably is).
So your doing 110 and oh look! Now so are they and you can't get back in without going over the limit. On my last trip down to the coast this happed at least four times.
People who cruise on 20 under on the highway then floor it when people try and pass should have their licenses revoked immediately.
You'd fit right in with the fundie christians that I know!
I always find that when children have been raised according to a strict ideology that they become a little odd. Pro religion or Anti-religion doesn't matter.
"Some are already here, if you rent a U-Haul truck, there's a governor on the engine that won't let you above 65mph. It doesn't kill the engine, but the truck just doesn't accelerate anymore."
I don't think that's so much the governor as the asthmatic million mile engines that are in them, how fast do you expect them to go?:)
"Ha, and what are they going to do when people mod their vehicles to circumvent this?"
Give them a defect notice if they catch them.
We have random roadside inspection here in much of Aus. They'll pull you over and go over your car looking for "defects". Worn wiper blades are enough if they want to be bastards and they often get boy racers on the most ridiculous things. I know one guy that got a defect for his turbo....on a *totally* stock WRX, the RTA man didn't understand the idea that WRXs come with turbos from the factory. Actually he probably did but wanted to cause trouble. It was in a small rural town so who knows.
Then again in my younger days I knew blokes who would drive around with the most *ridiculous* setups making 400kw+ easily and never got caught...
People are rarely doing the speed limit when they lose control.
Generally it's when they're doing 100 around a corner that they should only be doing 70 around, or 60 around a 35. Perhaps because there's some gravel on the road or water or oil or someone in their lane or they sneeze or they just take a bad line, whatever the reason they end up having a head on or wrapping themselves around the tree or pole that they fixate on when they realise they're going off the road.
That's what causes accidents.
There's plenty of roads around here where the speed limit is well high enough to get even an interested driver in a decent car into trouble without breaking the law.
You can't just "cut power" like it's an electrical appliance.
You can either:
- Limit Air - Limit Fuel - Limit Spark
All three of those things will reduce power and two of those things have significant problems with petrol engines.
- Closing the butterfly ala cruise control is the safest but most expensive, unreliable and mechanical way of doing it. - Limiting fuel, cheapest way but fraught with danger, leaning out to much causing detonation and burning through valves and piston heads. - Limiting spark, likely way but terrible from an environmental POV. Raw fuel/air mix flowing straight through into the exhaust when dimwits plug along with their foot flat to the floor and let the restrictor do the work (happens in big rigs).
Whatever they do its a 10 minute job for the boy racers to get around it .
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Dont worry, when they grow up they'll be defending their old arcane and "inefficient" IDEs against the new generation of WYSIWYG code generators.
Frontpage 2020: Java Edition!
Frontpage 2020: C++!
"Well I personally use Frontpage Java Edition because it's more *efficient* than ugh writing "code". I mean get with the times, nobody can program a *real* application in an IDE in 2020, it's impossible!" - 22 year old code monkey, 19 August 2020
I'm only half joking...
I can understand using Eclipse for Java with it's multitude of libraries, clases and threeHundrendAndFiftyMillionCharacter class and method names, but for Perl? Really?
And surely a 400MB editor is overkill for HTML and CSS which requires nothing more than a syntax highlighting text editor...
"I didn't say the IDE was more "powerful", I just said it was more efficient. And it is."
That's a big call.
I've started programming in Java and am using Netbeans (Eclipse would barely even *run* on this machine, utter rubbish).
- Often it autocompletes completely the wrong variable and keeps going as though there's no problem, try debug that in a hurry!
- It trains you to be lazy and not hold variable & method names and the overall structure of the app in your mind.
- Adding libraries is a simple affair, except when it breaks..and it does. And then of course you've never had to manually do any of it so don't know how to fix it...
- Bloated
- Ridiculously Bloated, at least it runs though
I've found that I'm equally as productive using Kate as I am in Netbeans.
I do love the Autodoc popups in Netbeans though, very nice and makes it worth using when you've got massive third party libraries imported as I do.
If you think 10k lines of code is a large or even medium project then yes your lack of experience probably requires you to use an IDE.
Now I'm no christian, but I'll tell you that there's a little problem that you techie "athiests" that seem to be the popular crowd on these sorts of sites have lately.
You all seem to becoming a little unhinged and quite distant from regular boring old people. 7 or 8 years ago atheists were pretty thoughtful individuals, these days the average "atheist" around these parts is *worse* than the born-agains EVER WERE.
In fact I'd say that your the opposite side of the same bent coin as the ultra religious and getting about this internet like I do I must say that lately when a bunch of "atheists" get together it's starting to sound a lot like when a bunch of born-agains get together. Lot's of self congratulations, lots of ridiculous 'arguments' and a laundry list of worthless worn out sound bites.
Here's the list of approved mindless soundbites and talking points guaranteed to have everyone thinking your the coolest mofo in your groups:
Stating as a matter fact that christians are child abusers.
Calling for religion to be banned.
Calling religion a cult.
Stating as a matter of fact that the 'forefathers' were atheists.
Using the phrase Zombie Jesus.
The following is an important part of being a cool and popular atheist:
Know *nothing* about the other groups philosophy:
Never stepped foot inside a church but seen a lot of movies? Then don't worry, just assume that Catholicism = all christianity and the 1% you know about *that* means that you know have an indepth knowledge about "christianity" and it's hundred or so distinct branches.
Cherry pick your people:
Feel free to assume that the other group are mentally deficient. Conveniently ignore the giants of history who also subscribed to that groups philosophy.
Remember the Crusades!:
Don't forget to mention the Crusades! But at all costs forget about Stalin, Mao & Pol Pot. Though they did indeed have people rounded up specifically for publicly believing in any sort of god; that's uncomfortably close to what you advocate so feel free to apologise for them! Their actions were just misunderstood right?
Go to the extreme:
Find nutcases and who spout religion and state emphatically that it's religion that made them nutcases
Go to the middle:
Find Humans erring as Humans do and point out what hypocrites *all* religious folk are based on the actions of a few.
Look I don't care about these silly little internet holy wars but the techie "atheist" circle jerk that starts up anytime somoeone mentions anything even related to religion no matter how obscure is starting to get a little out of hand.
Please stop, or their will be a general backlash against atheists in general.
Why?
"Companies like Apple" only account for a tiny fraction of the wealth in any country, state or city, not to mention bring almost no tax revenue.
It's small and medium sized businesses that run economies, that's who states and cities should cater to. Bringing in single large entities has it's own very real sets of problems for cities as well - and often ends up being a tax burden on anyone who isn't employed by the company.
But not Mexico? The rich pay very little there if they know the right people.
Or hell what about Somalia with their ultra rock bottom tax rates?
Oh, they just want *other* people to pay the taxes that fund their state and country. Once they become rich then fuck paying back into the state that enabled them to gather that wealth ay? Someone else can do it.
Good long term plan for any society that's for sure.
"You can complain all you want, but if you look at the numbers you'll find the top 1% of earners pay 40% (or more) of income taxes."
You're entirely correct,
I wish we had a time machine, then we could go back to Feudal Europe where the Lords used to pay 80% of all the taxes and tell the upstart peasants who only paid 10% of the overall taxes to shut the fuck up and learn their place under the feet of the top 1% of 'earners'. The lords owned 95% of all the land, resources and had 80% more influence over the king than the peasants to make laws to suit themselves and had the kings army to back them up if the peasants got a bit unruly - but that's no matter. They earned that money and position damn it!
Damned peasants not accepting their lot.
Did you miss the fact that 60% of the worlds 'wealth' was lost last year?? I guess there's a few less millionaires no?
Business taxes exist to prevent business owners from hiding their personal wealth inside the business to avoid personal taxes.
"Oh that 10million dollar mansion, no that's not mine! That's the businesses. I just stay there".
"Oh that Ferrari, no that's the businesses."
"Yacht? Businesses, not mine - see no income so no tax".
Then at the end of the financial year these things are claimed as deductions against the business income so the sales tax paid on them is effectively wiped out.
Outcome: A person living in a 10 million dollar home, with all the trimmings and expenses paid for, driving a ferrari with a 50ft Yacht who earns 10K a year and pays no income tax and no sales tax either.
That's what various business taxes are there for, to make it less desirable to play games like this as the BUSINESS will be taxed. Despite what the naive upper-class worshipping lick-spittles on these sorts of sites like to think.
"What the rich might not be demi-gods and will try and pay no tax at all and let the peons shoulder the majority of the burden?? Unthinkable!."
So all I have to do to avoid paying taxes in your fantasy world is to put everything into my businesses name and buy everything through my business?
That would be nice! Because I could probably put 80% of my personal expenses through my current businesses no problems.
So then it's the wage slaves who are going to pay all the taxes. Oh and because I also get to write you off as an expense against my "income" as well I pay even less!
Great!
Various plastics will probably be this generations lead.
I'm sure the people who were the first to become sceptical of lead were called fucking idiots too.
Just like the poor bastard who tried to convince doctors to *wash their hands* before cutting people open was.
Just like the guy who tried to tell 19th century England that it's widespread disease was due to people living in and drinking their own raw sewage - rather than the 'miasma'.
Established norms are *hard* to dislodge until there's mass irrefutable proof that can't be hand waved away. To bad that mass proof equals mass amounts of people ill affected. History proves quite tidily that in any given area the general public lag significantly on acceptance when mainstream things are found to be very harmful.
Don't wait until the masses are ok with something, especially when It's just as easy to do things to protect yourself and family now - like buying glass bottles.
(Wait until we find out the long term effects of the new ways of growing meat feed lot style! I have two acquaintances who work in abattoirs who won't touch meat unless they know where it's come from because of what they are seeing coming out of feedlot beef.)
We bought glass bottles for our little ones. Simple solutions are better solutions.
They've lasted and now we're using the same bottles for our second, they're cheaper over the long run far more sanitary and better for the environment. Also gives you that nice old school feeling.
Heavy glass bottles - the old school way.
I'm shocked that there's so many over reactors in the world.
You get three goes to get the pin right before the bank will lock the account.
3 attempts to get 10,000 possible combinations correct.
4 digit pins on cards have been around for at least two decades and have *never* been an issue, because there's no vector, you can't brute force a traditional pin because the system locks the account as soon as your start.
There's security then there's misplaced "Well *I'm* more secure than you with my 10 billion digit pin" irrationality.
I'll take security thanks.
Not to mention the obvious; that if 85% of people are doing it and their money isn't being stolen from their bank accounts via legitimate pin guessing then it's not something that's a problem, if it was then 4 digit pins would be no more.
"Who, pray tell, do you believe is supposed to judge who has a valid case or not? What would you call the person who you have the job of making that judgement?"
People who think TV shows like CSI and Bones are a representation of the real world are unaware of things called "judges" and "due process" and hell even court rooms and other such boring tedium. They suffer the delusion that real world police departments have quirky, supremely arrogant yet infinitely knowledgeable individuals who have access to multi-million dollar cutting edge technology and are super human enough to be investigator, judge *and* jury without prejudice - despite their supreme arrogance.
A huge number of peoples real world idea of the whole police process is completely formed by these ridiculously unrealistic TV shows, shows where the respective police departments are operating more in the way that police departments operate in Latin America and various SE Asian countries; without any external bounds at all.
Simply put some (many) people can't separate entertainment from reality which I would gamble is why the parent innocently demands to know why the process isn't being followed. Unfortunately the process as he understands it, is a mish-mash of complete works of fiction and probably a single 7th grade civics class.
Well in any given public place (just personally) I expect not to have someone following me around 24 hours a day 7 days a week writing detailed descriptions about where I go, what rooms I go into, what I buy, what I wonder and what people other people are saying to me.
Which is exactly what Google knows through search, gmail, adwords, adsense and analytics, all nicely integrated as they are.
If you go to any site displaying google ads or using analytics (probably 80% of sites), yes Google knows you.
Just take a look at the tight combination of analytics, adwords and adsense. And that's the extremely limited view that the public gets. Google would have an extraordinary view of any given individual. And not just an anonymous statistical view, a personal we know your name and private thoughts view. Even if you don't have a gmail account.
If people choose to involve themselves with Google that is their right, but Google isn't just a benevolent charity.
Given that even teenyboppers are using and abusing booze and drugs en-masse these days I'd hardly call anything related to them "crazy shit" anymore.
Unless you think teenagers can get up to "crazy shit" rather than just being allowed to rebel inside of a comfortable stable social framework.
~ end grumpy mode
You have absolutely *no* basis for any of what you just said.
You've fabricated a complete fantasy and presented it as fact, you are the person you rail against - a conspiracy theorist of a slightly different stripe.
There's a million explanations of what could have happened. The only rational thing to do is wait for some ort of investigation to produce results. To present a fantasy of your own making then state that it's case closed is the hieght of stupidity.
The fact that you are modded to +5 insightful glaringly shows the extreme need for the people in this tiny little group to believe that everything in life is peachy squeaky clean and just an innocent accident. Thank god none of you are cops, nobody would ever be arrested!
"See officer what happened is the person was just cleaning my gun and it accidently shot and then the wind blew their money into my pocket. As you know there's no such thing as malice!"
What a ridiculous thing to say.
Here in Aus there's an extraordinarily antisocial type of 'driver' who will do 20 under the limit for half an hour banking up 30 cars behind them and then when people start to overtake them en-masse put their foot down, usually while there's someone beside them. Then when the overtaking lane ends they'll back off again and continue holding people up.
What's the person beside them supposed to do when the person they're 3/4 past moves up to the speed limit? Slam on the brakes? Usually there's someone behind them overtaking as well. In any case, it's the person being overtaken who's behaving recklessly.
Peg it 10kph over the limit for 5 seconds to get around them is safer than the bloody dangerous response you describe in C.
A. You obviously never drive outside of four lane highways. the level of ignorance is astounding
B. Correct, unless the above happens - and it happens all the bloody time here, especially in the holidays when people like you get out of the cities and actually encounter a corner or two.
C. If your 3/4 of the way past, aborting is extraordinarily dangerous for *both* cars and anyone behind. Not to mention if there's someone behind you trying to overtake as well, as there usually is, or someone behind the car your overtaking who's closed up the gap that you left.
Lemme guess you don't drive on B roads much, and when you do your ever so careful and the 30 cars backed up behind you are just 'bad aggressive drivers' but your doing the best you can, your driving to the conditions and it's everyone else who's the 'bad driver'.
The worst thing is when your overtaking someone who's been sitting 20 under and your 3/4 of the way past them and they are one of those deadly fools who gently speeds up when people overtake or there's a bit of open road (where the overtaking lane inevitably is).
So your doing 110 and oh look! Now so are they and you can't get back in without going over the limit. On my last trip down to the coast this happed at least four times.
People who cruise on 20 under on the highway then floor it when people try and pass should have their licenses revoked immediately.
Then be shot.
Is that why your so anti-social.
You'd fit right in with the fundie christians that I know!
I always find that when children have been raised according to a strict ideology that they become a little odd. Pro religion or Anti-religion doesn't matter.
"Some are already here, if you rent a U-Haul truck, there's a governor on the engine that won't let you above 65mph. It doesn't kill the engine, but the truck just doesn't accelerate anymore."
I don't think that's so much the governor as the asthmatic million mile engines that are in them, how fast do you expect them to go? :)
"Ha, and what are they going to do when people mod their vehicles to circumvent this?"
Give them a defect notice if they catch them.
We have random roadside inspection here in much of Aus. They'll pull you over and go over your car looking for "defects". Worn wiper blades are enough if they want to be bastards and they often get boy racers on the most ridiculous things. I know one guy that got a defect for his turbo....on a *totally* stock WRX, the RTA man didn't understand the idea that WRXs come with turbos from the factory. Actually he probably did but wanted to cause trouble. It was in a small rural town so who knows.
Then again in my younger days I knew blokes who would drive around with the most *ridiculous* setups making 400kw+ easily and never got caught...
People are rarely doing the speed limit when they lose control.
Generally it's when they're doing 100 around a corner that they should only be doing 70 around, or 60 around a 35. Perhaps because there's some gravel on the road or water or oil or someone in their lane or they sneeze or they just take a bad line, whatever the reason they end up having a head on or wrapping themselves around the tree or pole that they fixate on when they realise they're going off the road.
That's what causes accidents.
There's plenty of roads around here where the speed limit is well high enough to get even an interested driver in a decent car into trouble without breaking the law.
Semi-trailers here in Aus already have governers set to 100KPH.
Drivers often drop them into neutral on the highway on downhills, they hit 140 no problems.
There's also a thriving industry found in the back pages of trucking magazines dedicated to remov...err 'maintaining' them.
You can't just "cut power" like it's an electrical appliance.
You can either:
- Limit Air
- Limit Fuel
- Limit Spark
All three of those things will reduce power and two of those things have significant problems with petrol engines.
- Closing the butterfly ala cruise control is the safest but most expensive, unreliable and mechanical way of doing it.
- Limiting fuel, cheapest way but fraught with danger, leaning out to much causing detonation and burning through valves and piston heads.
- Limiting spark, likely way but terrible from an environmental POV. Raw fuel/air mix flowing straight through into the exhaust when dimwits plug along with their foot flat to the floor and let the restrictor do the work (happens in big rigs).
Whatever they do its a 10 minute job for the boy racers to get around it .