It's much better than the alternative. China is addicted to MS Windows just like the rest of the world. The fact that they aren't paying for it is irrelevant, because it still helps reinforce the Windows monopoly in the rest of the world, and that enormous audience still represents potential future revenue, once MS decides they really want it.
Now imagine if Windows weren't widely pirated in China. Would Chinese people pay a good fraction of a month's salary for a copy? Hell no! The entire place would have ended up as a gigantic Microsoft-free zone which would have shown the rest of the world that maybe shoveling billions into Microsoft isn't as necessary as they thought.
If Microsoft has any brains about them, they're deliberately turning a blind eye to rampant piracy in third-world nations. They are far better off having their products be ubiquitously pirated by poorer nations than extracting a small revenue stream from them while forcing most of the population to seek cheaper alternatives.
I've used Ada a fair bit, but the biggest joke in that particular line when I used the language tended to be that none of the compilers complied with all aspects of the specification because it was just too complex.
Ada is hardly unique in this respect. Try finding a 100% compliant C99 or C++ compiler. Heck, most likely the only languages with 100% compliant implementations are the ones who don't have a spec and are defined by their implementations, such as Perl.
Non sequitur. I am not talking about "applied mathematics" or anything of the sort, I am talking about the utterly worthless homework that my high school handed out to the tune of a couple of hours per day for four straight years.
Perhaps you're not grasping what I'm saying. The homework I received was useless. It did not help me learn, it did not teach me anything, it did not do anything worthwhile for me or for anyone else except to keep me occupied and to allow the less able teachers to think that they were actually accomplishing something.
Yes but my post is only logically unsound if you are unaware of the connection between the two items.
To take the car analogy, it's like saying "the car (and therefore the wheels) did not arrive until noon". That "therefore" clause appears to be illogical if you are unaware that a car and its wheels are fastened together strongly and will arrive at any given location at the same time.
So perhaps my comment about Safari and WebKit's availability appears illogical because of that. But in fact they were just two sides of the exact same product at the time, so there's nothing illogical about it.
The world isn't built on first-order logic. Context is always assumed....
Not sure how you can say someone used "flawed logic" but not say that they're wrong.... In any case, my logic wasn't flawed unless you're ignorant of the subject being discussed.
It has nothing to do with the idea of Communism. (At least not to sane people. Some crazies think that the idea itself is a threat.)
Replace "Communism" with "Naziism" in the quoted sentence. Did Naziism threaten us? You bet! Not because of its ideas, but because it controlled a large military-industrial complex and had ambitions to rule the world. Communism was in the same situation during the Cold War. Communism doesn't threaten us now, it did then. Did the idea of Communism change? No, just what the organization of Communism controlled.
They are only not logically equivalent of you are unaware of the history of the two products.
Safari and WebKit were joined at the hip from day one. The way you originally got WebKit on a machine running 10.2 was to install Safari. WebKit came with it. There was no other way to obtain it. Later, Apple bundled both Safari and WebKit with the 10.2.8 update, so that it was no longer a separate installation.
The system requirements for Safari and WebKit have always been the same, because they were simply part of the same package. WebKit's requirements were Safari's requirements and vice versa. Therefore the ordering is irrelevant.
And yet from my perspective, they appear to be essentially the same, in that they force me to spend my time doing certain things determined by other people.
And unlike most of the homework I was forced to do in high school, community service would probably actually teach me something.
And if the draft had been in place, I think this nonsense of a war in Iraq would have never started, and if it did, it would not have lasted this long.
Holy shit man, that's the best argument you can come up with? That if you dislike this then you must dislike the military draft?
Military drafts are worse than slavery. Military drafts force people to go off and risk their lives whether they want to or not. And before the invention of conscientious objection, they forced people to kill other people whether they wanted to or not.
The draft is a reprehensible concept that has destroyed countless unwilling lives. And you seriously think that using its worth as the cornerstone of your argument is sensible?
My high school extracted thousands of hours of forced labor from me. I don't see why this is any different from being forced to do mindless homework or class projects, other than that it might actually serve a purpose.
What are you talking about? What flawed logic? Seriously, I make what appears to me a very reasonable post and all I get is attacks? Come on, now....
Apple released WebKit with a requirement for 10.2 and up. That is a simple fact. Given that simple fact, this would make it unusable for iTunes, which needed to support 10.1.
WebKit was not open source at the time, and in any case there is no way that Apple is going to allow the iTunes team to maintain a separate fork of WebKit just to support 10.1. WebKit (not to be confused with WebCore or KHTML) did not get open sourced for at least a year or two. Please do not attack me based on your obviously flawed understanding of the history of this framework.
I don't follow. Safari could be supported on 10.1 too if Apple felt like developing it that way. Obviously they did not, and obviously they did not feel like doing that with WebKit either.
Don't discount the left-hand/right-hand effect. It is unlikely that the iTunes team would have been able to convince/force the WebKit team into supporting 10.1 simply because iTunes needed it. Even if WebKit had been ready in time, which it wasn't.
You are misrepresenting my position. I do not "think media bias is a matter of he said/she said with no way to determine who's right". Rather, I think that the media is relatively politically unbiased on average, with the proof of this being that both sides think the media is in the pocket of the other side. Unless I've misunderstood, your links seem to be supporting that idea.
I'm sure Democrats will point to how the press rolled over and let the Bush administration simply scratch their belly for the last few years instead of asking hard questions about Iraq and other such things.
Honestly I can't even remember who Condit or Levy were, much less Scarborough, and I really don't feel like doing the research on it. Listen to Democrats complain about the media and they'll come up with examples just like yours except the other way around.
I can see there's no reasoning with you. The fact of the matter is that I am not affiliated with any political party, don't even like them, and this excludes me from being a partisan hack by definition. And yet I still think that the Republicans are to blame. Therefore your original statement was wrong, period, end of story.
I am not pissed off because you said something about my political affiliations. I am pissed off at the assumption, all too common these days, that anyone who holds a different opinion must be either stupid or evil. It is possible to disagree simply because of different opinions or priorities, but people like you refuse to acknowledge this. The result is two sides of the political spectrum which are nearly indistinguishable and which simultaneously each think that the other side is the devil.
Using other people's resources without their permission is not considered acceptable behavior where I'm from. The correct course of action is to find a picture of a birthday cake which explicitly has permission to copy it, then put it on your own hosting and linked to that. Using a person's birthday cake image without their permission is wrong. Linking to it on their server, well, you can do it but you're trusting them to serve up the right stuff. If they object to you taking advantage of their service and decide to change the data they return for that URL, you have only yourself to blame.
This is exactly what I mean. Your bias leads you to find cases where the media obsessed over something that's beneficial to the other side, and ignored something that's beneficial to yours. Meanwhile the other side is using opposite examples to make their case.
Offtopic - BTW your sig is just encouragement for all women readers to mod you down. You probably should have an AND condition in there somewhere.
I really could not care less about this. First, the population of women on the site is vanishingly small. Second, I really don't care how people moderate my posts.
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It's much better than the alternative. China is addicted to MS Windows just like the rest of the world. The fact that they aren't paying for it is irrelevant, because it still helps reinforce the Windows monopoly in the rest of the world, and that enormous audience still represents potential future revenue, once MS decides they really want it.
Now imagine if Windows weren't widely pirated in China. Would Chinese people pay a good fraction of a month's salary for a copy? Hell no! The entire place would have ended up as a gigantic Microsoft-free zone which would have shown the rest of the world that maybe shoveling billions into Microsoft isn't as necessary as they thought.
If Microsoft has any brains about them, they're deliberately turning a blind eye to rampant piracy in third-world nations. They are far better off having their products be ubiquitously pirated by poorer nations than extracting a small revenue stream from them while forcing most of the population to seek cheaper alternatives.
I've used Ada a fair bit, but the biggest joke in that particular line when I used the language tended to be that none of the compilers complied with all aspects of the specification because it was just too complex.
Ada is hardly unique in this respect. Try finding a 100% compliant C99 or C++ compiler. Heck, most likely the only languages with 100% compliant implementations are the ones who don't have a spec and are defined by their implementations, such as Perl.
Non sequitur. I am not talking about "applied mathematics" or anything of the sort, I am talking about the utterly worthless homework that my high school handed out to the tune of a couple of hours per day for four straight years.
Perhaps you're not grasping what I'm saying. The homework I received was useless. It did not help me learn, it did not teach me anything, it did not do anything worthwhile for me or for anyone else except to keep me occupied and to allow the less able teachers to think that they were actually accomplishing something.
Yes but my post is only logically unsound if you are unaware of the connection between the two items.
To take the car analogy, it's like saying "the car (and therefore the wheels) did not arrive until noon". That "therefore" clause appears to be illogical if you are unaware that a car and its wheels are fastened together strongly and will arrive at any given location at the same time.
So perhaps my comment about Safari and WebKit's availability appears illogical because of that. But in fact they were just two sides of the exact same product at the time, so there's nothing illogical about it.
The world isn't built on first-order logic. Context is always assumed....
Not sure how you can say someone used "flawed logic" but not say that they're wrong.... In any case, my logic wasn't flawed unless you're ignorant of the subject being discussed.
It has nothing to do with the idea of Communism. (At least not to sane people. Some crazies think that the idea itself is a threat.)
Replace "Communism" with "Naziism" in the quoted sentence. Did Naziism threaten us? You bet! Not because of its ideas, but because it controlled a large military-industrial complex and had ambitions to rule the world. Communism was in the same situation during the Cold War. Communism doesn't threaten us now, it did then. Did the idea of Communism change? No, just what the organization of Communism controlled.
Yes, it was only a short eight years from the first draft card burnings to the final withdrawal of American troops.
They are only not logically equivalent of you are unaware of the history of the two products.
Safari and WebKit were joined at the hip from day one. The way you originally got WebKit on a machine running 10.2 was to install Safari. WebKit came with it. There was no other way to obtain it. Later, Apple bundled both Safari and WebKit with the 10.2.8 update, so that it was no longer a separate installation.
The system requirements for Safari and WebKit have always been the same, because they were simply part of the same package. WebKit's requirements were Safari's requirements and vice versa. Therefore the ordering is irrelevant.
And yet from my perspective, they appear to be essentially the same, in that they force me to spend my time doing certain things determined by other people.
And unlike most of the homework I was forced to do in high school, community service would probably actually teach me something.
And if the draft had been in place, I think this nonsense of a war in Iraq would have never started, and if it did, it would not have lasted this long.
Because the draft sure kept us out of Vietnam....
My God, how dare a member of the government use the government domain to inform people of his intended activities as part of the government?
Holy shit man, that's the best argument you can come up with? That if you dislike this then you must dislike the military draft?
Military drafts are worse than slavery. Military drafts force people to go off and risk their lives whether they want to or not. And before the invention of conscientious objection, they forced people to kill other people whether they wanted to or not.
The draft is a reprehensible concept that has destroyed countless unwilling lives. And you seriously think that using its worth as the cornerstone of your argument is sensible?
My high school extracted thousands of hours of forced labor from me. I don't see why this is any different from being forced to do mindless homework or class projects, other than that it might actually serve a purpose.
The fact that nobody can agree on whose fault the mess is should tell you that it is not, in fact, a matter of fact, but of opinion.
Don't elevate your opinion to a higher status than it deserves.
What are you talking about? What flawed logic? Seriously, I make what appears to me a very reasonable post and all I get is attacks? Come on, now....
Apple released WebKit with a requirement for 10.2 and up. That is a simple fact. Given that simple fact, this would make it unusable for iTunes, which needed to support 10.1.
WebKit was not open source at the time, and in any case there is no way that Apple is going to allow the iTunes team to maintain a separate fork of WebKit just to support 10.1. WebKit (not to be confused with WebCore or KHTML) did not get open sourced for at least a year or two. Please do not attack me based on your obviously flawed understanding of the history of this framework.
I don't follow. Safari could be supported on 10.1 too if Apple felt like developing it that way. Obviously they did not, and obviously they did not feel like doing that with WebKit either.
Don't discount the left-hand/right-hand effect. It is unlikely that the iTunes team would have been able to convince/force the WebKit team into supporting 10.1 simply because iTunes needed it. Even if WebKit had been ready in time, which it wasn't.
Surely it's not hard to release a somewhat Unix based operating system to Unix based operating system port?
iTunes is largely GUI and audio code. It so happens that the APIs for GUI and audio playback are utterly unrelated between Mac OS X and Linux.
As usual, the reasons are rooted in history.
The iTunes Music Store opened on April 28, 2003. Safari 1.0 shipped on June 23, 2003.
Furthermore, iTunes supported Mac OS X 10.1 for a long time afterwards, whereas Safari (and therefore WebKit) always required at least 10.2.
If they were doing it today you can bet that they would jump right for WebKit.
You are misrepresenting my position. I do not "think media bias is a matter of he said/she said with no way to determine who's right". Rather, I think that the media is relatively politically unbiased on average, with the proof of this being that both sides think the media is in the pocket of the other side. Unless I've misunderstood, your links seem to be supporting that idea.
I'm sure Democrats will point to how the press rolled over and let the Bush administration simply scratch their belly for the last few years instead of asking hard questions about Iraq and other such things.
Honestly I can't even remember who Condit or Levy were, much less Scarborough, and I really don't feel like doing the research on it. Listen to Democrats complain about the media and they'll come up with examples just like yours except the other way around.
I can see there's no reasoning with you. The fact of the matter is that I am not affiliated with any political party, don't even like them, and this excludes me from being a partisan hack by definition. And yet I still think that the Republicans are to blame. Therefore your original statement was wrong, period, end of story.
I am not pissed off because you said something about my political affiliations. I am pissed off at the assumption, all too common these days, that anyone who holds a different opinion must be either stupid or evil. It is possible to disagree simply because of different opinions or priorities, but people like you refuse to acknowledge this. The result is two sides of the political spectrum which are nearly indistinguishable and which simultaneously each think that the other side is the devil.
Using other people's resources without their permission is not considered acceptable behavior where I'm from. The correct course of action is to find a picture of a birthday cake which explicitly has permission to copy it, then put it on your own hosting and linked to that. Using a person's birthday cake image without their permission is wrong. Linking to it on their server, well, you can do it but you're trusting them to serve up the right stuff. If they object to you taking advantage of their service and decide to change the data they return for that URL, you have only yourself to blame.
This is exactly what I mean. Your bias leads you to find cases where the media obsessed over something that's beneficial to the other side, and ignored something that's beneficial to yours. Meanwhile the other side is using opposite examples to make their case.
Offtopic - BTW your sig is just encouragement for all women readers to mod you down. You probably should have an AND condition in there somewhere.
I really could not care less about this. First, the population of women on the site is vanishingly small. Second, I really don't care how people moderate my posts.