Perhaps those would all be good points and be taken seriously if the parents didn't mix it with random lies or exaggerations which the teen can quickly debunk on Wikipedia?
The issue is is about being educated on the subject and honest. There's nothing wrong with saying "I've walked that road / known people who did - you don't want to go there". But there's everything wrong with spouting ignorant nonsense that will make them trust *nothing* you say on the topic, including the stuff that's true and are good points.
Right. Because you like something (or someone, for that matter), and another entity releases information that's negative toward the object of your affection, there MUST be a conspiracy behind it, whether governmental, military, corporate, political... it's the only logical option when you can't hold two conflicting ideas about what you like (that is, it can have both good and bad aspects at the same time).
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It's just like the people who because they like Wikileaks cannot even consider the possibility that Julian Assange may actually have f***ed a girl when she was sleeping to work around her refusal to consent to unprotected sex the night before, and that such an act would be rape.
To.... sugar? You mean to say that the chemical that all of the cells in your body run off of, including your brain, is making you lose IQ? That is, sucrose is glucose + fructose, and the latter just gets converted.
What sort of pathway are you envisioning for this to happen? High sugar diets can lead to obesity, as they don't sate hunger proportional to their calorie load, and ultimately diabetes... but is there some sort of link between obesity or diabetes and IQ that I don't know?
Even if the results of the study don't turn out to be some sort of "correlation != causation" effect, I wouldn't be surprised if it has absolutely nothing to do with the direct pharmacology of pot, but simply the fact that smoking pot isn't exactly famous for leading to intellectually-stimulating activities....
Desperate attempts to rationalize the use of marijuana is one of the signs of addiction.
So by your argument, pretty much anything I use in my daily life would become a "sign of addition" if you challenged it and I defended it. Apparently I'm addicted to my bed, underwear, forks, and washcloths, to name a few.
Full disclosure: I don't use pot. In case your immediate assumption was to do an "attack the messenger" reply.
Doesn't matter what you call it, so long as you learn it.
I once tried studying Icelandic with audio tapes in my sleep. The problem was, I simply could neither fall asleep nor stay asleep with it on. My brain just had too much hearing taking in language that it had trouble with without calling my full attention into processing it.
Except that it costs way too much, and I really doubt it'll hit price parity any time soon (there have been so many companies trying and failing, and the practical barriers look quite difficult if not impossible to overcome in the near term)
Actually, the main limitations on most "automotive" style li-ions concerning charging time are not the batteries - it's predominantly how fast you can supply the power and how quickly you can cool the pack. Anyone who's seen the sort of crazy stuff cutting edge RC hobbyists are doing with rapid charging/discharging li-ion packs knows that these things can take some serious abuse!
Can't do that with "laptop" style li-ions, though.
Cooling the pack and cabling well, I don't think anyone seriously considers that a major long-term roadblock. Just basic engineering. Supplying the power that fast can be done (the cabling doesn't even need to be too fat to be unweildy, due to cable cooling), but to do it direct from the grid requires a crazy big feed and all the start-and-stop makes the power company unhappy with you;) More practical approaches will involve a secondary battery buffer at the charging station, trickle-charging from the grid (or on-site generation if so desired). Ironically, one of the best buffers could be used EV battery packs, bought on the cheap because of their reduced capacity, and strung together.
The possibility leads to options that gasoline vehicles can't match. For example, in theory with today's tech (aka, if anyone built such vehicles and systems), you could drive up a li-ion EV to a solar-powered charging station plunked down in the middle of a barren wasteland, hundreds or thousands of kilometers from civilization - and in 5-10 minutes have a full or nearly full charge and drive off. Technically it's *possible* to make fuel deliveries out to really remote locations - but between the cost to install the tanks and such for a gas station in the first place and the cost of deliveries, it wouldn't begin to compare.
A good point. People often ask me how my salary in Iceland compares to my last salary in the US, and my answer is usually, in short, "it's irrelevant on its own". The long answer is "it's complicated", followed by a long discussion of the different tax rates, the different compensation structures, the different benefits (company, union, and national), the different cost of living in different regards, and on and on. It's very hard to quantify. It's much easier to just say, "I live reasonably well and enjoy life" or soforth.
Wait, a person can do good things *and* bad things? Stop it, you're hurting my simple brain! Can't conceive of two such concepts about the same person at the same time!
BTW, am I the only one amused by the fact that Wikileaks supporters champion "the embassy cables", the release of every private thing US embassies around the world have done.... while getting furious about the possibility of violating the privacy of embassies by shutting a single one down, giving the diplomats a week to leave with all their papers, then entering the building?
Anyway, it's a mix. Yes, they want to motivate you to keep coming back. But these stores also like to know crazy amounts of information about you. Aka, not just what's disappearing in a particular store, but what's being consumed by what demographics, what's bought at the same time, etc, to help determine product positioning, marketing campaigns, and so forth. Here's a crazy article on the lengths some companies go. The first paragraph, as a teaser:
Andrew Pole had just started working as a statistician for Target in 2002, when two colleagues from the marketing department stopped by his desk to ask an odd question: “If we wanted to figure out if a customer is pregnant, even if she didn’t want us to know, can you do that? ”
Also, as for your "tiny country" remark, you're quite overstating the case. Iceland is 40% bigger than Ireland. It's a longer drive from Keflavík to Borgafjörður Eystri than from Cleveland to Philadelphia, for example. To reiterate, the US has only 100 times the land area as Iceland. But the US has *1000* times the population to fund projects, with economies of scale, and isn't on a volcanic rock out in the middle of the Atlantic.
You just don't get it, do you. Iceland distinctly does not have "dense population centers". It has one population center of only moderate density, and then the rest is "the boonies", as you'd say. And the bigger the country, the *easier* it is to do, because not only do you have more population funding it, but large projects get economies of scale.
You know that there are a lot of Americans out there struggling to overcome the stereotype that Americans are stupid, right? Please don't undercut them.
Höfuðborgarsvæði is 63% of Iceland's population (aka, well under 80%) and 189 people per square kilometer is only the population density of Indiana (yes, even our capitol region is surprisingly low density - for example, here's the president's residence, Bessastaðir, which is perhaps 7km from downtown Reykjavík (Miðbær)). But 63% is well under the percent that have fiber. You can expand to Suðurnes to get Keflavík and Grindavík and parts of Suðurland to get Hveragerði and Selfoss and with parts of Vesturland to get Akranes and Borgarnes... but that's still not enough. Yes, 1/3rd of Iceland's population is in one city, even if you assume that everyone in and around it has fiber, you really have to go out into "the boonies" to get 80%. And that's for *fiber*. On a mountainous volcanic country in the middle of the North Atlantic.
The US has 9.8 million square kilometers to cover. I believe that equates to a little less area than 100 Icelands.
And the US has 1000 times the population to do it, gets economies of scale and isn't isolated on mountainous, volcanic, glacial terrain on an island in the middle of the North Atlantic. That's hardly an excuse.
Only in Alaska, where huge chunks of the state are just a couple counties, including one that's like half of the state. The largest county in the continental US is half the size of Iceland. Iceland is about the size of Kentucky.
Key difference: while Iceland has 1/100th the area of the US, it has 1/1000th the population to fund such construction projects, which furthermore mean importing everything across the North Atlantic, laying transatlantic data cables, and running domestic cables across what's predominantly unstable twisty mountainous wet volcanic/glaciated terrain.
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Iceland is an interesting country...
I for one would like to think they make pockets out of the leftover skin.
Ever been to Iceland? ;)
Perhaps those would all be good points and be taken seriously if the parents didn't mix it with random lies or exaggerations which the teen can quickly debunk on Wikipedia?
The issue is is about being educated on the subject and honest. There's nothing wrong with saying "I've walked that road / known people who did - you don't want to go there". But there's everything wrong with spouting ignorant nonsense that will make them trust *nothing* you say on the topic, including the stuff that's true and are good points.
Right. Because you like something (or someone, for that matter), and another entity releases information that's negative toward the object of your affection, there MUST be a conspiracy behind it, whether governmental, military, corporate, political ... it's the only logical option when you can't hold two conflicting ideas about what you like (that is, it can have both good and bad aspects at the same time).
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It's just like the people who because they like Wikileaks cannot even consider the possibility that Julian Assange may actually have f***ed a girl when she was sleeping to work around her refusal to consent to unprotected sex the night before, and that such an act would be rape.
Um, I wasn't taking a side on this one, but they presented a peer-reviewed paper and you didn't. They win.
To.... sugar? You mean to say that the chemical that all of the cells in your body run off of, including your brain, is making you lose IQ? That is, sucrose is glucose + fructose, and the latter just gets converted.
What sort of pathway are you envisioning for this to happen? High sugar diets can lead to obesity, as they don't sate hunger proportional to their calorie load, and ultimately diabetes... but is there some sort of link between obesity or diabetes and IQ that I don't know?
Even if the results of the study don't turn out to be some sort of "correlation != causation" effect, I wouldn't be surprised if it has absolutely nothing to do with the direct pharmacology of pot, but simply the fact that smoking pot isn't exactly famous for leading to intellectually-stimulating activities....
So by your argument, pretty much anything I use in my daily life would become a "sign of addition" if you challenged it and I defended it. Apparently I'm addicted to my bed, underwear, forks, and washcloths, to name a few.
Full disclosure: I don't use pot. In case your immediate assumption was to do an "attack the messenger" reply.
Doesn't matter what you call it, so long as you learn it.
I once tried studying Icelandic with audio tapes in my sleep. The problem was, I simply could neither fall asleep nor stay asleep with it on. My brain just had too much hearing taking in language that it had trouble with without calling my full attention into processing it.
Yeah, but they'd need to wait until the story falls asleep before they can read it...
Except that it costs way too much, and I really doubt it'll hit price parity any time soon (there have been so many companies trying and failing, and the practical barriers look quite difficult if not impossible to overcome in the near term)
Actually, the main limitations on most "automotive" style li-ions concerning charging time are not the batteries - it's predominantly how fast you can supply the power and how quickly you can cool the pack. Anyone who's seen the sort of crazy stuff cutting edge RC hobbyists are doing with rapid charging/discharging li-ion packs knows that these things can take some serious abuse!
Can't do that with "laptop" style li-ions, though.
Cooling the pack and cabling well, I don't think anyone seriously considers that a major long-term roadblock. Just basic engineering. Supplying the power that fast can be done (the cabling doesn't even need to be too fat to be unweildy, due to cable cooling), but to do it direct from the grid requires a crazy big feed and all the start-and-stop makes the power company unhappy with you ;) More practical approaches will involve a secondary battery buffer at the charging station, trickle-charging from the grid (or on-site generation if so desired). Ironically, one of the best buffers could be used EV battery packs, bought on the cheap because of their reduced capacity, and strung together.
The possibility leads to options that gasoline vehicles can't match. For example, in theory with today's tech (aka, if anyone built such vehicles and systems), you could drive up a li-ion EV to a solar-powered charging station plunked down in the middle of a barren wasteland, hundreds or thousands of kilometers from civilization - and in 5-10 minutes have a full or nearly full charge and drive off. Technically it's *possible* to make fuel deliveries out to really remote locations - but between the cost to install the tanks and such for a gas station in the first place and the cost of deliveries, it wouldn't begin to compare.
Given that they're *flying* cars, if they're "hitting the streets", I suspect that they'll be taken off the market pretty quickly. ;)
A good point. People often ask me how my salary in Iceland compares to my last salary in the US, and my answer is usually, in short, "it's irrelevant on its own". The long answer is "it's complicated", followed by a long discussion of the different tax rates, the different compensation structures, the different benefits (company, union, and national), the different cost of living in different regards, and on and on. It's very hard to quantify. It's much easier to just say, "I live reasonably well and enjoy life" or soforth.
What are you talkng about? Our current president is starting his fourth ( :P ) term, and the president before him was a "she".
Wait, a person can do good things *and* bad things? Stop it, you're hurting my simple brain! Can't conceive of two such concepts about the same person at the same time!
BTW, am I the only one amused by the fact that Wikileaks supporters champion "the embassy cables", the release of every private thing US embassies around the world have done.... while getting furious about the possibility of violating the privacy of embassies by shutting a single one down, giving the diplomats a week to leave with all their papers, then entering the building?
Ah, good 'ol loyalty cards. I prefer disloyalty cards. ;)
Anyway, it's a mix. Yes, they want to motivate you to keep coming back. But these stores also like to know crazy amounts of information about you. Aka, not just what's disappearing in a particular store, but what's being consumed by what demographics, what's bought at the same time, etc, to help determine product positioning, marketing campaigns, and so forth. Here's a crazy article on the lengths some companies go. The first paragraph, as a teaser:
Also, as for your "tiny country" remark, you're quite overstating the case. Iceland is 40% bigger than Ireland. It's a longer drive from Keflavík to Borgafjörður Eystri than from Cleveland to Philadelphia, for example. To reiterate, the US has only 100 times the land area as Iceland. But the US has *1000* times the population to fund projects, with economies of scale, and isn't on a volcanic rock out in the middle of the Atlantic.
You just don't get it, do you. Iceland distinctly does not have "dense population centers". It has one population center of only moderate density, and then the rest is "the boonies", as you'd say. And the bigger the country, the *easier* it is to do, because not only do you have more population funding it, but large projects get economies of scale.
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You know that there are a lot of Americans out there struggling to overcome the stereotype that Americans are stupid, right? Please don't undercut them.
Höfuðborgarsvæði is 63% of Iceland's population (aka, well under 80%) and 189 people per square kilometer is only the population density of Indiana (yes, even our capitol region is surprisingly low density - for example, here's the president's residence, Bessastaðir, which is perhaps 7km from downtown Reykjavík (Miðbær)). But 63% is well under the percent that have fiber. You can expand to Suðurnes to get Keflavík and Grindavík and parts of Suðurland to get Hveragerði and Selfoss and with parts of Vesturland to get Akranes and Borgarnes... but that's still not enough. Yes, 1/3rd of Iceland's population is in one city, even if you assume that everyone in and around it has fiber, you really have to go out into "the boonies" to get 80%. And that's for *fiber*. On a mountainous volcanic country in the middle of the North Atlantic.
Only by virtue of living in a country with half-decent infrastructure.
Because 3Mbps sucks? Why not just say if they've got 56kbps, they're golden?
And the US has 1000 times the population to do it, gets economies of scale and isn't isolated on mountainous, volcanic, glacial terrain on an island in the middle of the North Atlantic. That's hardly an excuse.
Only in Alaska, where huge chunks of the state are just a couple counties, including one that's like half of the state. The largest county in the continental US is half the size of Iceland. Iceland is about the size of Kentucky.
Key difference: while Iceland has 1/100th the area of the US, it has 1/1000th the population to fund such construction projects, which furthermore mean importing everything across the North Atlantic, laying transatlantic data cables, and running domestic cables across what's predominantly unstable twisty mountainous wet volcanic/glaciated terrain.