Ultimatly I think their plan is to nail the 'questionable' MP3 related services (Napster, MP3.com, etc.) till they have established in the public's eye that MP3=illegal. It's obvious they do not like the format, but since they cannot sue a format (I'm sure they looked into it) they will try to hit everything associated with it.
The wierd part will be when they go after "traditional" internet services. I imagine when someone at the RIAA discovers usenet and IRC, they will turn to the government for help regulating the mp3 traffic in these channels, then all hell will break loose.
Prediction: What's sad here is that companies blindly "jumped into" the internet expecting it to play by their rules. When it didn't they raged at the fact that there was no controling authority over it.
So finally, despite our best efforts, there will be control over the internet, perhaps by the UN, or just some international treaty. Sure there will by some renegades and 'black market' ISP's but overall the major providers will comply.
Ironically, it won't even be a good cause that triggers the regulation of the internet (like protecting the children, or the usual tear jerkers), it will be commercial interests and big money.
I'm fully aware of how the DMCA is supposed to work (both the good parts and bad). However, many are not. And when a large business utters the phrase "DMCA violation" in an small ISP's genneral direction, they will do shut downy site, and kick off any user to avoid a costly legal battle they cannot win. Mattel can claim that someone's page with a picture of a furby on it is a DMCA violation, and I'll bet it get's pulled. The ISP's aren't being gutless, they are simply protecting their interests. Unfortunatly that means rolling over on any threat from a big company, legimate of not.
If anyone does send you a letter asking you to take stuff down.
If that were how it happend, there would be no problem. However, they do not send a letter to the site owner, they go straight to the host provider with accusation of DMCA violations or copyright violations (often not true) and scare the provider with lawsuits. The provider (not having any desire to get into a lawsuit over content they don't care about in the first place) will nearly always buckle under the preasure and drop the site and the customer without even investigating the claim.
Universities are historically better about this, but even noe they are scared of companies with money.
That's true, and it that could happen on ANY OS I know of (well, OS/390 being an exception), so I guess it really boils down to the user and how well educated he/she is about such matters. Unfortunatly (I believe) Windows attempts to dumb down users while Linux has the opposite effect. I also don't buy that Windows is more productive, it all comes down (again) to the user and what they learn. Windows IS however, less secure.
Yes, I could write a bash script or perl script that deletes files. Guess what, not everyone uses bash and has perl on their unix system, and if they did, it would only delete their user files, and NO system files would be affected. Unix was build off of a concept of security. With Windows, security was an afterthought, and not a very complete one.
Besides, unix users (as a whole) tend to be a little more tech-savvy and know not to run things like that.
As CmdrTaco said, intelligent e-mail users continue to be uneffected.
Hear me out. Linux is Microsoft's main competition right now. Because of this we are forcing them to "innovate", something they would usually avoid.
Now if MS Bob has taught us anything, Microsoft is not a company that should be innovating. When they do, they don't come up with things like "better security" or "stability", they come back with "talking paperclips", and "throw in every usless feature we can think of, memory footprint be dammed".
Unfortunatly, they also come up with the bright idea of executing email. Now MIME attachments aren't enough, they want you to be able to run/open attachments right when you get them (presumably to make sure you EXECUTE.exe files to make DAMN SURE you read any EULA contained within). This sounds like a good idea to people who believe renaming directories to folders made computing possible for the common man, but security wise it's like vigorously shaking a package from the Unibomber.
So my friends, we are to blame. We pushed them into frantically trying to invent "necessary" features to stay on top, and look where it got us. Many of us are watching our beloved mail servers go down under the strain and rebuilding our company's PC because of our pointless competition with Micosoft.
I implore you all, please just drop this Linux thing before Micosoft innovates again.
Not really. Remember the Michealangalo (I know I spelled it wrong, sue me) virus scare? That was a non event hyped up by the media and ant virus companies.
I'm inclined to believe they have the talent and motivation to pull it off, so it IS possible.
The use of click-wrap non-disclosure agreements to protect trade secrets have been upheld as legally binding in numerous court cases. The advent of the internet as a means to widely and quickly distribute restricted information does not change the fact that it is a violation of a legally binding agreement to do so.
But there was no click through agreement, I don't know what you are talking about. I got a compressed.EXE file from Microsoft, and (remembering the recent problems with trojans in executible files) I wisely chose Winzip to open the file. There it was, I read it, no click through agreement I could find.
So how hard do they expect us to look for their agreement? Did they actually expect me to run an executible from an untrusted source on my system?
The reliability of a mainframe comes not from the software (though that is a factor) but from the hardware.
Wrong. It comes from redundancy built into both the hardware and software. The hardware is only as reliable as the software running on it and vice versa.
Agreed. And hey, it's not just banks. I know of insurance companies, airplane manufacters, grocery store chains, universities, brokers, construction companies, etc. that all use s/390s
There is no way Linux will replace the OS/390 on IBM's mainframe. It is the most mature OS in existance, it is written specifically for the hardware, and it can do too many things Linux cannot.
Apart from a few academics running dinosaur equipment, who cares?
I'll bet you think large companies do all their computing on PC's huh?
You'd be shocked to find that these machines are still being made, keeping up with the latest technology, and faster and more reliable than the best cluster systems.
I'd like to see more Linux email clients (you hear me, spruce guys) include some feature to drop all mail NOT directly addressed to me. If it allows me to set up exceptions to let in the couple of mailing lists I'm part of, then this would effectivly fix the problem.
Maybe there is a way to do this with filters, and I'm just too lazy to figure it out.
PS. I KNOW there is a way to do this with procmail, I just don't use it (neither do alot of people who just have a pop account or two)
Internet2, led by over 170 U.S. universities working in partnership with industry and government, is developing and deploying advanced network applications and technologies, accelerating the creation of tomorrow's Internet.
AFAIK: The internet has already fallen victim to this type of thing. Internet II is an attempt to restore it to it's former information based roots. I'm pretty sure I2 is funded primarily by universities.
I'm sorry about your stock prices, but you knew the risk when you signed up with that marketing and litigation company that occationally puts out poor software on the side.
Cheer up, man. It'll get better. I'm sure your company will get through this PR nightmare it created.
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The fewer simpering immature weasels around, the better.
:)
I agree, have a nice trip
Finkployd
Ultimatly I think their plan is to nail the 'questionable' MP3 related services (Napster, MP3.com, etc.) till they have established in the public's eye that MP3=illegal. It's obvious they do not like the format, but since they cannot sue a format (I'm sure they looked into it) they will try to hit everything associated with it.
The wierd part will be when they go after "traditional" internet services. I imagine when someone at the RIAA discovers usenet and IRC, they will turn to the government for help regulating the mp3 traffic in these channels, then all hell will break loose.
Prediction: What's sad here is that companies blindly "jumped into" the internet expecting it to play by their rules. When it didn't they raged at the fact that there was no controling authority over it.
So finally, despite our best efforts, there will be control over the internet, perhaps by the UN, or just some international treaty. Sure there will by some renegades and 'black market' ISP's but overall the major providers will comply.
Ironically, it won't even be a good cause that triggers the regulation of the internet (like protecting the children, or the usual tear jerkers), it will be commercial interests and big money.
Finkployd
I'm fully aware of how the DMCA is supposed to work (both the good parts and bad). However, many are not. And when a large business utters the phrase "DMCA violation" in an small ISP's genneral direction, they will do shut downy site, and kick off any user to avoid a costly legal battle they cannot win. Mattel can claim that someone's page with a picture of a furby on it is a DMCA violation, and I'll bet it get's pulled. The ISP's aren't being gutless, they are simply protecting their interests. Unfortunatly that means rolling over on any threat from a big company, legimate of not.
Finkployd
If anyone does send you a letter asking you to take stuff down.
If that were how it happend, there would be no problem. However, they do not send a letter to the site owner, they go straight to the host provider with accusation of DMCA violations or copyright violations (often not true) and scare the provider with lawsuits. The provider (not having any desire to get into a lawsuit over content they don't care about in the first place) will nearly always buckle under the preasure and drop the site and the customer without even investigating the claim.
Universities are historically better about this, but even noe they are scared of companies with money.
Finkployd
DCE Kerberos is not interoperable with MIT's implementation. I don't see anyone screaming about that.
True. however, DCE is an open protocol, with full specs and source available for unrestricted download.
Finkployd
what Karma whoring this post is!
All I was trying to do was bring laughter to the world *snif* *sob*
Finkployd
Sure, go ahead
:)
I'm flattered someone would actually want to reproduce one of my caffene induced posts
Finkployd
That's true, and it that could happen on ANY OS I know of (well, OS/390 being an exception), so I guess it really boils down to the user and how well educated he/she is about such matters. Unfortunatly (I believe) Windows attempts to dumb down users while Linux has the opposite effect. I also don't buy that Windows is more productive, it all comes down (again) to the user and what they learn. Windows IS however, less secure.
Finkployd
Yes, I could write a bash script or perl script that deletes files. Guess what, not everyone uses bash and has perl on their unix system, and if they did, it would only delete their user files, and NO system files would be affected. Unix was build off of a concept of security. With Windows, security was an afterthought, and not a very complete one.
Besides, unix users (as a whole) tend to be a little more tech-savvy and know not to run things like that.
As CmdrTaco said, intelligent e-mail users continue to be uneffected.
Finkployd
Hear me out. Linux is Microsoft's main competition right now. Because of this we are forcing them to "innovate", something they would usually avoid.
.exe files to make DAMN SURE you read any EULA contained within). This sounds like a good idea to people who believe renaming directories to folders made computing possible for the common man, but security wise it's like vigorously shaking a package from the Unibomber.
Now if MS Bob has taught us anything, Microsoft is not a company that should be innovating. When they do, they don't come up with things like "better security" or "stability", they come back with "talking paperclips", and "throw in every usless feature we can think of, memory footprint be dammed".
Unfortunatly, they also come up with the bright idea of executing email. Now MIME attachments aren't enough, they want you to be able to run/open attachments right when you get them (presumably to make sure you EXECUTE
So my friends, we are to blame. We pushed them into frantically trying to invent "necessary" features to stay on top, and look where it got us. Many of us are watching our beloved mail servers go down under the strain and rebuilding our company's PC because of our pointless competition with Micosoft.
I implore you all, please just drop this Linux thing before Micosoft innovates again.
Finkployd
Not really.
Remember the Michealangalo (I know I spelled it wrong, sue me) virus scare? That was a non event hyped up by the media and ant virus companies.
I'm inclined to believe they have the talent and motivation to pull it off, so it IS possible.
Finkployd
The use of click-wrap non-disclosure agreements to protect trade secrets have been upheld as legally binding in numerous court cases. The advent of the internet as a means to widely and quickly distribute restricted information does not change the fact that it is a violation of a legally binding agreement to do so.
.EXE file from Microsoft, and (remembering the recent problems with trojans in executible files) I wisely chose Winzip to open the file. There it was, I read it, no click through agreement I could find.
But there was no click through agreement, I don't know what you are talking about. I got a compressed
So how hard do they expect us to look for their agreement? Did they actually expect me to run an executible from an untrusted source on my system?
Finkployd
The reliability of a mainframe comes not from the software (though that is a factor) but from the hardware.
Wrong. It comes from redundancy built into both the hardware and software. The hardware is only as reliable as the software running on it and vice versa.
Finkployd
Cluster are catching up in speed, but have light years to go before hitting the reliability and stability of a big iron.
Finkployd
Hate to burst your bubble, but the "mighty slow-moving Dinosaur Pen Big-Iron" is faster than any cluster imaginable.
Finkployd
Agreed.
And hey, it's not just banks. I know of insurance companies, airplane manufacters, grocery store chains, universities, brokers, construction companies, etc. that all use s/390s
Finkployd
There is no way Linux will replace the OS/390 on IBM's mainframe. It is the most mature OS in existance, it is written specifically for the hardware, and it can do too many things Linux cannot.
Finkployd
Apart from a few academics running dinosaur equipment, who cares?
I'll bet you think large companies do all their computing on PC's huh?
You'd be shocked to find that these machines are still being made, keeping up with the latest technology, and faster and more reliable than the best cluster systems.
Finkployd
I'd like to see more Linux email clients (you hear me, spruce guys) include some feature to drop all mail NOT directly addressed to me. If it allows me to set up exceptions to let in the couple of mailing lists I'm part of, then this would effectivly fix the problem.
Maybe there is a way to do this with filters, and I'm just too lazy to figure it out.
PS. I KNOW there is a way to do this with procmail, I just don't use it (neither do alot of people who just have a pop account or two)
Finkployd
See the trend?
:)
I notice it moving away from Windows
Finkployd
I was tested at 136, thankyouverymuch, and I run Windows 98.
:)
143 and running Linux
See trend?
(not flaming, only joking)
Finkployd
From their front page:
Internet2, led by over 170 U.S. universities
working in partnership with industry and
government, is developing and deploying advanced
network applications and technologies,
accelerating the creation of tomorrow's Internet.
So what did I say that you take offense to?
Finkployd
AFAIK: The internet has already fallen victim to this type of thing. Internet II is an attempt to restore it to it's former information based roots. I'm pretty sure I2 is funded primarily by universities.
Finkployd
I'm sorry about your stock prices, but you knew the risk when you signed up with that marketing and litigation company that occationally puts out poor software on the side.
Cheer up, man. It'll get better. I'm sure your company will get through this PR nightmare it created.
Finkployd
-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?
I've been seeing this for months, what exactally does it mean?
Finkployd