You really were able to figure out quite a bit about me from that post. Can you tell my future too? You know I've totally given up on the concept of learning, and seem to hold quite a bit of resentment toward anyone who hasn't.
Yeah, wherever did I come to that conclusion....
"It's dumb assholes like you who don't know, and fall for the pseudo-science bullshit and political lies and manipulations, because someone explains it to you using third grader words, and you nod your head and say "uh huh" because you want to pretend to yourself like you're not stupid."
"Well, here's a clue, dipshit -- you're stupid. All humans are damned monkies, barely brighter than an ape. No-one alive understands more than a tenth of the stuff that happens right in front his face, and doesn't have a chance in hell to understand the stuff he doesn't directly experience."
"The difference between a genius and a moron is that the genius knows he's barely more than a stupid ape, and will admit it. The moron has absolutely no idea."
Look you just want an argument, you misconstrued what I wrote to mean that anyone who enjoys life and doesn't spend 100% of their time learning is an idiot (nice hyperbole by the way, try going back and reading what I actually wrote). I'm sorry you are so angry, but damn man, I have never seen someone so violently defend ignorance. I'm not talking about everyone being a computer expert, or world cultures expert, or auto mechanic, just keeping someone the natural curiosity and interest in the world around us.
Apes in general, and humans especially, are less this way than typical critters. Our learning shuts down later in life, and doesn't shut down as completely. Still, learning goes against the way the older brain is meant to work.
I certainly find it harder to learn new things now than when I was young, but I still derive enjoyment out of it. I also derive enjoyment out of totally mindless entertainment least anyone think I am a cultural elitist, anti-TV type of person. I just don't understand people who not only decide they are done learning at a certain point, but become angry and bitter that society, technology, etc. move on and they have to keep learning to play along.
You really were able to figure out quite a bit about me from that post. Can you tell my future too? You know I'm in to the pseudo-science stuff....
I have no misconceptions as to how much I know on any given topic, if anything the more I learn the more I realize I have to learn. My only point was that I have not totally given up and just decided to enjoy and actively pursue ignorance as though it were an enlightened state. It sounds as though you have totally given up on the concept of learning, and seem to hold quite a bit of resentment toward anyone who hasn't. That cannot be a fun way to go through life but to each his own.
Insulting people for wanting to enjoy their downtime in their own way is the height of arrogance.
Yes, it is, of course this bears no resemblance to what I wrote about.
Maybe, unlike you, they aren't INTERESTED in computers, or cars, or whatever.
While this/. story is about computers I was being more general. I referring to people who are primarily focused on entertainment, and passive entertainment at that. I'm talking about people living such an easy life that if the most minor modern convenience requires thought or learning, they are proud of their ignorance at best, usually they are just annoyed. I'm not talking about you who knows about engines but prefers to pay someone to change your oil, I'm talking about someone who does not bother to get their oil changed until something goes wrong because "why should they have to know about cars just to drive around". The same people who use computers as a tool every day but are ignorant of the most basic concepts behind it are usually the first to complain the loudest when they do something wrong that causes a problem.
This is an attitude not limited to technology, but it certainly shows up a lot there.
Look at nutrition and exercise in the US. You have a significant amount of grossly overweight people scarfing down anything that tastes good because they cannot be bothered to know the basics of nutrition that kept their ancestors alive before twinkies were invented. Due to their lack of interest in learning how to take care of their own bodies we see them dragging down the health care industry with all sorts of health complications from this.
Look at politics, far from having active citizens who are interested in civic matters, we have sheep who pull a party lever for whichever party caters to their single issue or promises them the most pork from the treasury. The current state of politics (specifically in the US but certainly not limited to it) did not come about because greedy politicians stole the show, they were voted in by people who are now getting exactly what they deserve for their ignorance of politics.
The cancerous people you refer to might even be like me, and be sick and freaking tired of being forced to learn every stupid computer trick just to be able to surf the Internet safely
The lack of safety on the internet just mirrors the real world. You cannot just stroll anywhere you want in the middle of the night in a major city or give your money to anyone who promises to invest it wisely without learning a bunch of "stupid" things to keep you safe either. There are a bunch of people out there who will do anything to you for a buck (or just for the hell of it) and the internet is not exempt from this. You want total safety? it only comes with isolation.
or to learn every fad computer language just to get a decent paying job.
c has kept me employed quite well for many years. Does not stop me from learning and using other languages but then I enjoy that. If you do not enjoy learning new things at a rather quick pace you are certainly in the wrong industry.
At some point, one needs to stop learning and start doing in order to get anything done.
I have never found the two to be mutually exclusive, rather it is almost impossible to learn without doing (for me anyway).
Over time as people age, they accumulate a list of things they "know" and their curiosity and desire to learn decreases (the more you know, the less you care to learn).
These people are a cancer on human civilization. That sounds harsh, but seriously.
We have been given (by natural selection, an intelligent designer, a flying spaghetti monster, etc) the ability to learn and the desire to learn everything we can in our lives. Those who grab a diploma from highschool or college and go "well, I'm all done learnin' time to watch some pro wrestling, nascar, and reality tv" end up not only refusing to help push civilization further, they end up being a hindrance. I'm not talking about people with actual learning disabilities, just those who think it is too hard, or that that have learned everything they need and just coast from there.
You know the type, the people who seem positively proud to be befuddled by technology, science, politics, basically the world around them. And when they are not proud of the ignorance, they are angry or indignant that they should be troubled to have to learn anything new.
Now I'm in no way attacking the average person for not understanding the machine code that directs their CPU, but honestly people, take an afternoon and learn a LITTLE bit about how your computer works, especially if you intend to be using it for hours every day. And for that matter, learn how your car works, You don't have to be able to build a fuel injected engine from scratch, but the concepts are quite simple and worth knowing. It seems weird that our society is begining to take pride in what we DON'T know versus what we do. Yes, you can go through life completely ignorant of how the world around you works, but why would you want to?
You basically answered your own question, using a cartridge (or let us say flash memory over USB2/Wirewire) would be much faster than a CD. Not quite as fast as a hard drive perhaps, but probably close enough not to matter as much as it does with optical media.
Back in 02-03, I looked into Pubcookie, Cosign, Duke's Webauth, and a couple of others. At the time Cosign was the only one capable of passing kerberos tickets around to the end applications (we needed that for several of our applications that previously used mod_auth_kerb or mod_auth_dce and actually needed the tickets). Also at that specific time Pubcookie was a nightmare to install, with outdated documentation and a mailing list full of people who could not get it to work and were not getting much help (mostly it seemed to be an issue of pubcookie needing a very specific version of openssl).
My understanding is that pubcookie has improved vastly since then however, but at the time it was just not a viable option for us. Duke's Webauth looked good, but I prefer the way Cosign passes the ticket and other data in an "out of band" direct SSL connection from auth server to web server rather than encoding it all in the url and passing it via the user's browser.
ps. I really enjoyed seeing your University at the CIC TechForum in 03, you guys were doing some very cool stuff.
Cosign testing at PSU (we eventually adopted it and rebranded it "WebAccess") was actually the reason I rolled out my own CA once. The users authenticate via Kerberos but the cosign services need to talk to the cosign login server via mutual auth SSL. I figured, why pay Verisign for certs that do not need to be rooted in a distributed and known CA (since they never come in contact with the end user) when I could just do it myself?
I agree to an extent, but then I have some issues with this. The great promise of PKI was the ability to validate identities without talking to a central server (or even being on a network at all). For simplicity (and because it makes my argument better), lets look at a case where a company is going to roll out client certificates for purposes of just authentication.
If they are using OCSP, then I would argue that they have a lot of complex overhead for very little gain where a network authentication system such as Kerberos would serve them better. There, the revocation is well understood and works perfectly. In addition to being much simpler you also have more applications working natively with Kerberos than PKI (at least large scale apps), mostly because so few people have actually figured out how to roll our a PKI for client authentication. The DOD keeps claiming thay have done it but when you talk to them privately most consider it a failure of a project which has not lived up to its promise.
Now of course you get a lot more with a PKI than just client auth, you get S/MIME, document signing, etc. so in that case it is definitely worth it. But for just client auth, I don't see it.
For my money, the future is going to be in PKI-LITE or short term "junk certs" that are generated and issued on demand after authenticating to another system, similar to what UMich did with kx.509 (KCA server) and what Derek Morr and I did at PSU with the SASL-CA concept. That way you get all the benefits of PK without the pesky I that nobody has really figured out how to do correctly and efficiently yet. At the very least you lose the need for revocation.
For some internal (non user-facing) things I have used a self signed cert; for example when prototyping cosign (web single sign on).
In the past we have rolled out a CA signed by CREN. This was a pretty small rollout and used for just Shibboleth, S/MIME, Web Auth, and some limited classroom work using handheld devices. At this point we are using mostly Thawte Freemail for S/MIME and CACERT for S/MIME, PDF signing, 802.1x, and a odd series of other tests/work.
This is less than ideal since we end up beholden to corporate groups, but there is something good on the horizon, USHER Usher is a higher ED CA being put together by Internet2 which will be cross certified with the Federal CA bridge. Basically what CREN was supposed to be, only with more backing and interest.
The nice thing about it is that we will get a signing cert to use at will rather than paying someone like Verisign per certificate which is not gonna happen with 138,000 users, especially if we wish to do any kind of PKI-LITE setup (where short term "junk certs" are issued on demand eliminating the need for a CRL which nobody has figured out how to do right yet).
You know, I've found the opposite to be true. The OS/FOSS people I know tend to pay for software more than the windows/non FOSS people I know. It is certainly not scientific data but in my experience it is not the OS/FOSS people who are downloading tons of warez, movies, and mp3s online.
Don't open e-mail from senders you don't recognize.
What would this accompolish? Since around 1999 or 2000, the vast majority of viruses and trojans have grabbed all the email addresses in someone inbox, address book, etc. and sent themselves out using a random return address from this list. There is a good bet that any virus/trojan you get will have a known return address in it, however it is just as good a bet that it will not be the address of the person infected.
Geeze, here it is 2006 and people still think that the return address in unsigned email means ANYTHING.
And if you are in a coporate setting and the Network Admin hasn't blocked IM, you've already got bigger problems to worry about.
It really seems sad that the norm is to block reasonable communication tools (I use IM almost exclusively for work related communication) simply because corporate America is infatuated with Microsoft despite the massive security headaches they cause.
Off topic, I'm really getting annoyed with Microsoft admins where I work constantly complaining about IE problems. I'm starting to ask these people how many times they had to put their hand on a hot stove when they were children before they decided it was a bad idea. Is pattern recognition a skill that we as a society just no longer have?
The people who really make proper use of computers are people at home using them for creative endeavours that will never see a dime.
Funny, I would argue the people who really make proper use of computers are people crunching numbers and doing other repetitive tasks that computers excel at, and not the weirdoes who think that computers are somehow an "art tool" or "creative tool". I mean for crying out loud, it just performs a bunch of math functions!
Of course, we are both wrong. Computers are quite a general purpose tool and can be used for a wide range of things, none of which are "proper" as there is no "proper" use of a general purpose tool. You seem to have a tunnel vision of computers being only used properly for creative and/or artistic uses.
Actually, under US law there are provisions for wiretaps in emergency situations without a warrant. The only issue there is you have to get a warrant in a reasonable time after the fact and justify doing it without a warrant. There are curently legal ways to do everything in the Patriot Act that would not decrease effectiveness, so chalk it up to "we just don't want to, pbthththth!"
When has this ever happened? (something customers not wanting being forced upon then, then removing a popular alternative)
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, just that what is just more likely is that the vast majority of people will simply download and burn rather than buy the newer, (most likely) more expensive, less useful, DRMed media. Everyone has CD burners, everyone has CD players in their car, and everyone has cd players at home (by "everyone", I mean everyone in the music buying demographic).
For something to replace that, it must offer a clear and desirable advantage over CDs, the way CDs did over tape and the way DVDs did over VHS. Since the sound quality isn't going to get any better, what value ad could you possibly provide to get people to switch?
And what advantage will the offer the consumer over a CD player? Believe me, it is hard enough to get people to change media when the new media is superior, it will be impossible when it is a downgrade (as any DRMed CD is likely to be)
Is he wanting to "jab" Apple into being "better" at what they do due to an underlying love? What are his motives? Does he cite specific reasonings for his rants?
Perhaps there is no ulterior motive and he is just reporting his experience...
My mistake, that is actually how I intended to word it, and point out that we are only comparing against the intended domain, not the actual IP address we are connecting to. The lack of secure DNS means we get no assurance that the intended domain name is actually getting to the IP it is supposed to.
You really were able to figure out quite a bit about me from that post. Can you tell my future too? You know I've totally given up on the concept of learning, and seem to hold quite a bit of resentment toward anyone who hasn't.
Yeah, wherever did I come to that conclusion....
"It's dumb assholes like you who don't know, and fall for the pseudo-science bullshit and political lies and manipulations, because someone explains it to you using third grader words, and you nod your head and say "uh huh" because you want to pretend to yourself like you're not stupid."
"Well, here's a clue, dipshit -- you're stupid. All humans are damned monkies, barely brighter than an ape. No-one alive understands more than a tenth of the stuff that happens right in front his face, and doesn't have a chance in hell to understand the stuff he doesn't directly experience."
"The difference between a genius and a moron is that the genius knows he's barely more than a stupid ape, and will admit it. The moron has absolutely no idea."
Look you just want an argument, you misconstrued what I wrote to mean that anyone who enjoys life and doesn't spend 100% of their time learning is an idiot (nice hyperbole by the way, try going back and reading what I actually wrote). I'm sorry you are so angry, but damn man, I have never seen someone so violently defend ignorance. I'm not talking about everyone being a computer expert, or world cultures expert, or auto mechanic, just keeping someone the natural curiosity and interest in the world around us.
Finkployd
Apes in general, and humans especially, are less this way than typical critters. Our learning shuts down later in life, and doesn't shut down as completely. Still, learning goes against the way the older brain is meant to work.
I certainly find it harder to learn new things now than when I was young, but I still derive enjoyment out of it. I also derive enjoyment out of totally mindless entertainment least anyone think I am a cultural elitist, anti-TV type of person. I just don't understand people who not only decide they are done learning at a certain point, but become angry and bitter that society, technology, etc. move on and they have to keep learning to play along.
Finkployd
Wow, just wow.
You really were able to figure out quite a bit about me from that post. Can you tell my future too? You know I'm in to the pseudo-science stuff....
I have no misconceptions as to how much I know on any given topic, if anything the more I learn the more I realize I have to learn. My only point was that I have not totally given up and just decided to enjoy and actively pursue ignorance as though it were an enlightened state. It sounds as though you have totally given up on the concept of learning, and seem to hold quite a bit of resentment toward anyone who hasn't. That cannot be a fun way to go through life but to each his own.
Finkployd
b.) support the war.
This is not a flame, nor am I going to argue with you no matter what you say....
How exactly do you support the war? Besides with taxes I mean.
Finkployd
You clearly did not read what I wrote.
/. story is about computers I was being more general. I referring to people who are primarily focused on entertainment, and passive entertainment at that. I'm talking about people living such an easy life that if the most minor modern convenience requires thought or learning, they are proud of their ignorance at best, usually they are just annoyed. I'm not talking about you who knows about engines but prefers to pay someone to change your oil, I'm talking about someone who does not bother to get their oil changed until something goes wrong because "why should they have to know about cars just to drive around". The same people who use computers as a tool every day but are ignorant of the most basic concepts behind it are usually the first to complain the loudest when they do something wrong that causes a problem.
Insulting people for wanting to enjoy their downtime in their own way is the height of arrogance.
Yes, it is, of course this bears no resemblance to what I wrote about.
Maybe, unlike you, they aren't INTERESTED in computers, or cars, or whatever.
While this
This is an attitude not limited to technology, but it certainly shows up a lot there.
Look at nutrition and exercise in the US. You have a significant amount of grossly overweight people scarfing down anything that tastes good because they cannot be bothered to know the basics of nutrition that kept their ancestors alive before twinkies were invented. Due to their lack of interest in learning how to take care of their own bodies we see them dragging down the health care industry with all sorts of health complications from this.
Look at politics, far from having active citizens who are interested in civic matters, we have sheep who pull a party lever for whichever party caters to their single issue or promises them the most pork from the treasury. The current state of politics (specifically in the US but certainly not limited to it) did not come about because greedy politicians stole the show, they were voted in by people who are now getting exactly what they deserve for their ignorance of politics.
The cancerous people you refer to might even be like me, and be sick and freaking tired of being forced to learn every stupid computer trick just to be able to surf the Internet safely
The lack of safety on the internet just mirrors the real world. You cannot just stroll anywhere you want in the middle of the night in a major city or give your money to anyone who promises to invest it wisely without learning a bunch of "stupid" things to keep you safe either. There are a bunch of people out there who will do anything to you for a buck (or just for the hell of it) and the internet is not exempt from this. You want total safety? it only comes with isolation.
or to learn every fad computer language just to get a decent paying job.
c has kept me employed quite well for many years. Does not stop me from learning and using other languages but then I enjoy that. If you do not enjoy learning new things at a rather quick pace you are certainly in the wrong industry.
At some point, one needs to stop learning and start doing in order to get anything done.
I have never found the two to be mutually exclusive, rather it is almost impossible to learn without doing (for me anyway).
Finkployd
Over time as people age, they accumulate a list of things they "know" and their curiosity and desire to learn decreases (the more you know, the less you care to learn).
These people are a cancer on human civilization. That sounds harsh, but seriously.
We have been given (by natural selection, an intelligent designer, a flying spaghetti monster, etc) the ability to learn and the desire to learn everything we can in our lives. Those who grab a diploma from highschool or college and go "well, I'm all done learnin' time to watch some pro wrestling, nascar, and reality tv" end up not only refusing to help push civilization further, they end up being a hindrance. I'm not talking about people with actual learning disabilities, just those who think it is too hard, or that that have learned everything they need and just coast from there.
You know the type, the people who seem positively proud to be befuddled by technology, science, politics, basically the world around them. And when they are not proud of the ignorance, they are angry or indignant that they should be troubled to have to learn anything new.
Now I'm in no way attacking the average person for not understanding the machine code that directs their CPU, but honestly people, take an afternoon and learn a LITTLE bit about how your computer works, especially if you intend to be using it for hours every day. And for that matter, learn how your car works, You don't have to be able to build a fuel injected engine from scratch, but the concepts are quite simple and worth knowing. It seems weird that our society is begining to take pride in what we DON'T know versus what we do. Yes, you can go through life completely ignorant of how the world around you works, but why would you want to?
Finkployd
Here is the question:
How is this different to running stuff off a CD?
And here is the answer:
1: it's faster
You basically answered your own question, using a cartridge (or let us say flash memory over USB2/Wirewire) would be much faster than a CD. Not quite as fast as a hard drive perhaps, but probably close enough not to matter as much as it does with optical media.
Finkployd
Back in 02-03, I looked into Pubcookie, Cosign, Duke's Webauth, and a couple of others. At the time Cosign was the only one capable of passing kerberos tickets around to the end applications (we needed that for several of our applications that previously used mod_auth_kerb or mod_auth_dce and actually needed the tickets). Also at that specific time Pubcookie was a nightmare to install, with outdated documentation and a mailing list full of people who could not get it to work and were not getting much help (mostly it seemed to be an issue of pubcookie needing a very specific version of openssl).
My understanding is that pubcookie has improved vastly since then however, but at the time it was just not a viable option for us. Duke's Webauth looked good, but I prefer the way Cosign passes the ticket and other data in an "out of band" direct SSL connection from auth server to web server rather than encoding it all in the url and passing it via the user's browser.
ps. I really enjoyed seeing your University at the CIC TechForum in 03, you guys were doing some very cool stuff.
Finkployd
Cosign testing at PSU (we eventually adopted it and rebranded it "WebAccess") was actually the reason I rolled out my own CA once. The users authenticate via Kerberos but the cosign services need to talk to the cosign login server via mutual auth SSL. I figured, why pay Verisign for certs that do not need to be rooted in a distributed and known CA (since they never come in contact with the end user) when I could just do it myself?
Finkployd
OCSP is definitely the way to do revocation.
I agree to an extent, but then I have some issues with this. The great promise of PKI was the ability to validate identities without talking to a central server (or even being on a network at all). For simplicity (and because it makes my argument better), lets look at a case where a company is going to roll out client certificates for purposes of just authentication.
If they are using OCSP, then I would argue that they have a lot of complex overhead for very little gain where a network authentication system such as Kerberos would serve them better. There, the revocation is well understood and works perfectly. In addition to being much simpler you also have more applications working natively with Kerberos than PKI (at least large scale apps), mostly because so few people have actually figured out how to roll our a PKI for client authentication. The DOD keeps claiming thay have done it but when you talk to them privately most consider it a failure of a project which has not lived up to its promise.
Now of course you get a lot more with a PKI than just client auth, you get S/MIME, document signing, etc. so in that case it is definitely worth it. But for just client auth, I don't see it.
For my money, the future is going to be in PKI-LITE or short term "junk certs" that are generated and issued on demand after authenticating to another system, similar to what UMich did with kx.509 (KCA server) and what Derek Morr and I did at PSU with the SASL-CA concept. That way you get all the benefits of PK without the pesky I that nobody has really figured out how to do correctly and efficiently yet. At the very least you lose the need for revocation.
Finkployd
For some internal (non user-facing) things I have used a self signed cert; for example when prototyping cosign (web single sign on).
In the past we have rolled out a CA signed by CREN. This was a pretty small rollout and used for just Shibboleth, S/MIME, Web Auth, and some limited classroom work using handheld devices. At this point we are using mostly Thawte Freemail for S/MIME and CACERT for S/MIME, PDF signing, 802.1x, and a odd series of other tests/work.
This is less than ideal since we end up beholden to corporate groups, but there is something good on the horizon, USHER Usher is a higher ED CA being put together by Internet2 which will be cross certified with the Federal CA bridge. Basically what CREN was supposed to be, only with more backing and interest.
The nice thing about it is that we will get a signing cert to use at will rather than paying someone like Verisign per certificate which is not gonna happen with 138,000 users, especially if we wish to do any kind of PKI-LITE setup (where short term "junk certs" are issued on demand eliminating the need for a CRL which nobody has figured out how to do right yet).
You know, I've found the opposite to be true. The OS/FOSS people I know tend to pay for software more than the windows/non FOSS people I know. It is certainly not scientific data but in my experience it is not the OS/FOSS people who are downloading tons of warez, movies, and mp3s online.
Don't open e-mail from senders you don't recognize.
What would this accompolish? Since around 1999 or 2000, the vast majority of viruses and trojans have grabbed all the email addresses in someone inbox, address book, etc. and sent themselves out using a random return address from this list. There is a good bet that any virus/trojan you get will have a known return address in it, however it is just as good a bet that it will not be the address of the person infected.
Geeze, here it is 2006 and people still think that the return address in unsigned email means ANYTHING.
And if you are in a coporate setting and the Network Admin hasn't blocked IM, you've already got bigger problems to worry about.
It really seems sad that the norm is to block reasonable communication tools (I use IM almost exclusively for work related communication) simply because corporate America is infatuated with Microsoft despite the massive security headaches they cause.
Off topic, I'm really getting annoyed with Microsoft admins where I work constantly complaining about IE problems. I'm starting to ask these people how many times they had to put their hand on a hot stove when they were children before they decided it was a bad idea. Is pattern recognition a skill that we as a society just no longer have?
Finkployd
Because they have been doing such a bang up job in this department so far right?
Hey clueless, maybe the security problem is not having a firewall.
Wow, just wow.
So when firewall software has flaws do you consider the seucrity problem there to be that they didn't put up a firewall for the firewall?
The people who really make proper use of computers are people at home using them for creative endeavours that will never see a dime.
Funny, I would argue the people who really make proper use of computers are people crunching numbers and doing other repetitive tasks that computers excel at, and not the weirdoes who think that computers are somehow an "art tool" or "creative tool". I mean for crying out loud, it just performs a bunch of math functions!
Of course, we are both wrong. Computers are quite a general purpose tool and can be used for a wide range of things, none of which are "proper" as there is no "proper" use of a general purpose tool. You seem to have a tunnel vision of computers being only used properly for creative and/or artistic uses.
"For all you Bush-haters, this is not a rant about Bush, because he has zero power to pass laws. "
Sure he does, they are called executive orders.
He also seems to believe he unilaterally passed a law making it legal for the NSA to spy on citizens without a warrant.
Finkployd
Actually, under US law there are provisions for wiretaps in emergency situations without a warrant. The only issue there is you have to get a warrant in a reasonable time after the fact and justify doing it without a warrant. There are curently legal ways to do everything in the Patriot Act that would not decrease effectiveness, so chalk it up to "we just don't want to, pbthththth!"
I'm pretty sure search and seizure without a warrant is. If it is not, then what do you consider "unreasonable" to mean?
Oh, nevermind then. I'm not upset at all about Bush circumventing the constitution if there was a book involved.
When has this ever happened? (something customers not wanting being forced upon then, then removing a popular alternative)
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, just that what is just more likely is that the vast majority of people will simply download and burn rather than buy the newer, (most likely) more expensive, less useful, DRMed media. Everyone has CD burners, everyone has CD players in their car, and everyone has cd players at home (by "everyone", I mean everyone in the music buying demographic).
For something to replace that, it must offer a clear and desirable advantage over CDs, the way CDs did over tape and the way DVDs did over VHS. Since the sound quality isn't going to get any better, what value ad could you possibly provide to get people to switch?
Finkployd
And what advantage will the offer the consumer over a CD player? Believe me, it is hard enough to get people to change media when the new media is superior, it will be impossible when it is a downgrade (as any DRMed CD is likely to be)
Finkployd
You posted 66 comments to slashdot, what did you get in return for that? Often people just like to express their opinions.
Finkployd
Is he wanting to "jab" Apple into being "better" at what they do due to an underlying love? What are his motives? Does he cite specific reasonings for his rants?
Perhaps there is no ulterior motive and he is just reporting his experience...
Why does everyone have to have motives and such?
Finkployd
My mistake, that is actually how I intended to word it, and point out that we are only comparing against the intended domain, not the actual IP address we are connecting to. The lack of secure DNS means we get no assurance that the intended domain name is actually getting to the IP it is supposed to.
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