"our nukes are base load plants, not made for load following. We simply don't need them anymore"......................you....... don't think you need......base load????????????Dear god that is fantastically uniformed
"After all we are world leader in CO2 reduction "
By what metric? the "I like to make up things metric?"
Nor this one. Poland has made much more progress as both a percentage and absolute number. Maybe that's just because they are a less developed nation? Lets go with the UK? Ooo looks like they beat you as well. Back in the early 90's their economy was slightly less carbon efficient per GDP unit. Now they are moderately more efficient than Germany. This is because Germany makes truly awful, trendy decisions instead of thought out rational ones. Global warming is a true problem Germany needs to treat it that way instead of pretending they are. Hell in the U.S. half our population doesn't even believe in global warming and we are doing a much better job of emissions reduction than you.
"Deutsche Bank analysts estimated an extra 370 million metric tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions through 2020, compared with Societe Generale’s extra 406 million metric tons."
See that nice blue line on page 12. See how that is about 1/3rd lower than the other options? The irresponsible nuclear turnoff if 2012 caused a similar 1/3 spike upwards in the emissions per unit of energy Germany produces.
Germany in all things is fashionably liberal vs practically liberal. Doing the cool trendy things that in reality have little utilitarian impact, while ignoring the actually impactful actions it could take.
The real comparison should be the net effective release per mile driven over the lifetime of a vehicle with comparable size for an average vehicle. IE an EV over 15 years driven 200,000 miles with one or two battery replacements and energy use, vs an ICE over 15 years driven 200,000 miles with about 60 oil changes, filter changes, fuel changes and a transmission replacement.
Renewable energy is not that green and produces significant emissions during the totality of its lifecycle..... Additionally Germany slashed its nuclear energy use causing a MASSIVE spike is greenhouse gas emissions. Germany has been like a child these last 20 years, jumping from one green fad to another without implementing the slow-untrendy-yet effective changes.
Just to build each car battery -- weighing upwards of 500 kilograms (1,100 pounds) in size for sport-utility vehicles -- would emit up to 74 percent more C02 than producing an efficient conventional car
10 years to break even Meaning that you know since cars last more than 10 years..... electric cars would beat ICEs under even the most pro ICE environment......
This is not to say we would be dropping loads of money on it, but $1.3 million is hardly that. DARPA is known for spending money on some wild ideas, but it is not known for just tossing money away. There is a key difference. If DARPA thinks there is a worth while shot that this research can lead to something value then good on them for taking a risk.
Nonsense. Cutting yourself off from the civilized world is not a solution. The time/cost efficient solution is use something like credit karma and a credit card with fraud protection. Check your bill every month or two and you are fine. Sure your data may get stolen every few years, but the credit card company will eat the cost and you'll be fine.
Lol what a retard. "Reality has a liberal bias" just another southern moron pretending to know better than experts.
Also you completely misquoted your own source. Nothing in that article said anything about lying. Only that an estimate was raised by 20%. Unless you've never worked a day in your life you should know, project estimates often creep up.
Hmm. So where on the political spectrum are the people who point out that raising the cost of power in California will hurt the states economy ?
On the intentionally ignorant/conservative side. As there are loads of studies out there indicated that even with with increased direct energy cost, the economics of nuclear/renewable are a net win due to the reduction of externalities of coal/NG.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/in...
The people who point out that the highspeed rail initiative will never pay for itself are arguing from emotion ?
Again on the blithering retarded/conservative side. As again numerious studies have proven your false "fact" wrong.
I get it. You are a retard who refuses to listen to any peer reviewed studies but think that the "facts" you pull out of your ass are worthwhile to spread.
Don't worry. I didn't expect someone with Southern sympathy to understand "words." Good luck on civil war 2 with no functioning economy, you'll need it.
Yup. Even a high level intellectual labor force needs its servants. Don't worry in a few years we will invent robots to replace most of them. Just like we already replaced flyover inhabitants with robots. Turns out a servant without a high school degree is harder to replace than a Texan.
Yup, California and the civilized states do export our garbage to the third world. China was our dump for outdated electronics, Texas is the dump for the those who are not fit to receive an education or thrive in intellectual/high-skilled workforce.
Are you iterate much? Also Texas only has that high a per capita due natural resource extraction. The people themselves have negligible contribution due to their failure of an education system.
Meanwhile the conservative states are insolvent and living off of State scale welfare. It really is funny/ironic that the group who champions that they are the economically informed tribe have 3rd world levels of GDP per population.
There is plenty to the world. There is a myriad of wonderful and interesting locations thought the world. Europe has its rustic locations, Asia has impressive megacities, South America has interesting cultural celebrations . The US has the NYC and Californian megalopolises. The rest of the US is flyoverstan with an education system on par with the poorest of third world nations.
Utah isn't America, it is flyoverstan. Infrastructure doesn't work there because flyoverstan refuses to pay for it. They get scared of any bill for an amount that they cant stuff in a cattle skin. NYC has a nice system interconnected to a variety of areas. In NYC everyone takes the subway from the fry cook, to the mid level exec earning 300k. The subway works just fine, everyone takes it for work. In my 4 years living there I never once met someone who didn't fall into two catagories. 1) Walked to work, 2) took public transport. Boston has a hub and spoke system which is only useful if you are going to or from downtown. As such any job that is not centered in downtown, the public transport system becomes useless. The DC system was fine when I visited.
I am sure there will be someone who falls into this category but the culture will be extremely rigid. Google has many good things going for it, it is however, culturally monolithic and extremely conservative. After my MBA I was interviewing for a product manager position there. It was a rather interesting experience I was speaking with several members from their autonomous car division. Great conversations. During lunch they gave me a chance to speak with one of their team, off record so I could actually ask honest questions, I think this is another very good idea. While I enjoyed the conversation's earlier, I noticed they all were similar. I also noted that while they had different college majors they all dress similar they all spoke similar, they had all gone to the same schools. I ask quite honestly "Hey I noticed that everyone I spoke with today all had a Harvard, Princeton degree, do I honestly have any chance I went to good schools but not the Harvards" his response without any irony was "Don't worry, I am from Stanford and we have a bunch of people from Cal Tech" I laughed and almost just walked out.
1.) wtf man. Not once in the whole thread is Wisconsin or Michigan even mentioned ctrl f yields two previous "Wisconsin"s both from you.
2) You are using a very strict term for persuaded. Yes I don't presume that a picture of Hillary switched from wearing an "I'm with her" shirt to donning a bright orange hate. But you are ignoring the million shades of grey in-between. It is very likely that precise shit posting can remind someone to turn out to vote, donate the extra $100 rant an additional time. Done with some intelligence and expertise , which the Russians have in spades, can have a real impact.
Direct quoote "“You saw turnout spike in more rural counties,” Alexander said. “If you take a look at a lot of the larger cities you did see depressed turnout there."
Having been involved at various positions within infosec I am very well aware of the multitude of threats out there. The Russians are and have been a VERY active,sophisticated and ham-handed player. With all the intelligence agencies cited above stating as much.
"Koch Brothers’ Budget of $889 Million for 2016 Is on Par With Both Parties’ Spending"
D's spent about $1.5 billion R's spent about $1 billion Koch's spent and additional about $.9 billion. Republicans as always spent more particularly when you consider down ballot races. But in general yes. R's are far better at the "politics" part. Too bad they suck as governing.
1) First paragraph continues to be a straw-man, as the post you responded to indicates that states were not the primary target, low information R's were
As an easy example/proxy from 2012-2016 voter turnout increased by roughly 2% or total electorate, and 4% in actual voters, in Alabama, Alaska Arkansas, and Arizona.
4) Scaremongering? The CIA, FBI,NSA reporting meddling within the US. With the governments of the UK, Spain, Italy Georgia, Poland, France ALL reporting and documenting a concerted effort to influence their elections. Yeah sure lol. "scaremongering lol"
"is quite unlikely." Here is where we disagree. I think that is exactly what they did and the analysis of their actions supports my hypothesis. They targeted low information R's with pro BLM media specifically designed to incite them. They targeted them with various adds literally associating Clinton with the devil. They actively supported the pizzagate conspiracy theory. These are all verifiable individual actions. They targeted low information R's to turn out their vote. The locations that those R's just happen to be in are the battle ground states.
"So, parallel to the core Democrat low education inner city vote?"
Yes low education Democratic voter participation was down proportionally partialy thanks to R voter suppression efforts.
"And you're going to win them over now by... calling them stupid?" 1) I don't care about winning over "them" 2) I didn't call them stupid, you just did. 3) Statistics don't lie, a dramatic increase in turnout in very low education rural communities was a core component of the Rs victory.
"Then I suggest you hire those Russians"
No one is accusing the Russians of being stupid, just them abusing the easily confused and manipulated.
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"our nukes are base load plants, not made for load following. We simply don't need them anymore"......................you....... don't think you need......base load????????????Dear god that is fantastically uniformed
"After all we are world leader in CO2 reduction "
By what metric? the "I like to make up things metric?"
https://knoema.com/atlas/Germany/Energy-intensity?compareTo=US,IE,FR,DE
This graph doesn't seem to agree with you.
https://yearbook.enerdata.net/total-energy/world-energy-intensity-gdp-data.html
Nor this one. Poland has made much more progress as both a percentage and absolute number. Maybe that's just because they are a less developed nation? Lets go with the UK? Ooo looks like they beat you as well. Back in the early 90's their economy was slightly less carbon efficient per GDP unit. Now they are moderately more efficient than Germany. This is because Germany makes truly awful, trendy decisions instead of thought out rational ones. Global warming is a true problem Germany needs to treat it that way instead of pretending they are. Hell in the U.S. half our population doesn't even believe in global warming and we are doing a much better job of emissions reduction than you.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-german-nuclear-carbon/german-nuclear-cull-to-add-40-million-tonnes-co2-per-year-idUSTRE74U2Y220110601
"Deutsche Bank analysts estimated an extra 370 million metric tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions through 2020, compared with Societe Generale’s extra 406 million metric tons."
https://www.mcc-berlin.net/fileadmin/data/pdf/Publikationen/Knopf_Pahle_Joas_Edenhofer_Germanys_nuclear_phase-out_2012.pdf
See that nice blue line on page 12. See how that is about 1/3rd lower than the other options? The irresponsible nuclear turnoff if 2012 caused a similar 1/3 spike upwards in the emissions per unit of energy Germany produces.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/press/briefings/germany-to-miss-emissions-target-because-of-nuclea.aspx
Germany in all things is fashionably liberal vs practically liberal. Doing the cool trendy things that in reality have little utilitarian impact, while ignoring the actually impactful actions it could take.
The real comparison should be the net effective release per mile driven over the lifetime of a vehicle with comparable size for an average vehicle. IE an EV over 15 years driven 200,000 miles with one or two battery replacements and energy use, vs an ICE over 15 years driven 200,000 miles with about 60 oil changes, filter changes, fuel changes and a transmission replacement.
Renewable energy is not that green and produces significant emissions during the totality of its lifecycle..... Additionally Germany slashed its nuclear energy use causing a MASSIVE spike is greenhouse gas emissions. Germany has been like a child these last 20 years, jumping from one green fad to another without implementing the slow-untrendy-yet effective changes.
Just to build each car battery -- weighing upwards of 500 kilograms (1,100 pounds) in size for sport-utility vehicles -- would emit up to 74 percent more C02 than producing an efficient conventional car
10 years to break even Meaning that you know since cars last more than 10 years..... electric cars would beat ICEs under even the most pro ICE environment......
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This is not to say we would be dropping loads of money on it, but $1.3 million is hardly that. DARPA is known for spending money on some wild ideas, but it is not known for just tossing money away. There is a key difference. If DARPA thinks there is a worth while shot that this research can lead to something value then good on them for taking a risk.
Nonsense. Cutting yourself off from the civilized world is not a solution. The time/cost efficient solution is use something like credit karma and a credit card with fraud protection. Check your bill every month or two and you are fine. Sure your data may get stolen every few years, but the credit card company will eat the cost and you'll be fine.
Lol what a retard. "Reality has a liberal bias" just another southern moron pretending to know better than experts. Also you completely misquoted your own source. Nothing in that article said anything about lying. Only that an estimate was raised by 20%. Unless you've never worked a day in your life you should know, project estimates often creep up.
Hmm. So where on the political spectrum are the people who point out that raising the cost of power in California will hurt the states economy ?
On the intentionally ignorant/conservative side. As there are loads of studies out there indicated that even with with increased direct energy cost, the economics of nuclear/renewable are a net win due to the reduction of externalities of coal/NG. https://www.sourcewatch.org/in...
The people who point out that the highspeed rail initiative will never pay for itself are arguing from emotion ?
Again on the blithering retarded/conservative side. As again numerious studies have proven your false "fact" wrong.
https://www.hsr.ca.gov/docs/ne...
I get it. You are a retard who refuses to listen to any peer reviewed studies but think that the "facts" you pull out of your ass are worthwhile to spread.
Don't worry. I didn't expect someone with Southern sympathy to understand "words." Good luck on civil war 2 with no functioning economy, you'll need it.
Apparently it is true.
So you're saying the revenue generated by the #4 industry in Texas is enough to cover the top industry AND the third largest industry?
More or less. Yes. I like your reference though.
1. Financial/Real Estate * Real Estate- Which has value due to Resource extraction by farming
2. Manufacturing * Low skill (Texas is to the North as Mexico is to the U.S.)
3. Professional / Business Services * Consulting services around resource extraction
*4. Mining/Oil/Gas Extraction
Yeah. They don't have anything else going on in texas.
Yup. Even a high level intellectual labor force needs its servants. Don't worry in a few years we will invent robots to replace most of them. Just like we already replaced flyover inhabitants with robots. Turns out a servant without a high school degree is harder to replace than a Texan.
Yup, California and the civilized states do export our garbage to the third world. China was our dump for outdated electronics, Texas is the dump for the those who are not fit to receive an education or thrive in intellectual/high-skilled workforce.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita
California 58,619
Texas 53,795
Are you iterate much? Also Texas only has that high a per capita due natural resource extraction. The people themselves have negligible contribution due to their failure of an education system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_American_Human_Development_Index
gives an even clearer picture of the failure that is conservative economics.
TLDR in texas the land has value, the people do not.
Meanwhile the conservative states are insolvent and living off of State scale welfare. It really is funny/ironic that the group who champions that they are the economically informed tribe have 3rd world levels of GDP per population.
There is plenty to the world. There is a myriad of wonderful and interesting locations thought the world. Europe has its rustic locations, Asia has impressive megacities, South America has interesting cultural celebrations . The US has the NYC and Californian megalopolises. The rest of the US is flyoverstan with an education system on par with the poorest of third world nations.
Utah isn't America, it is flyoverstan. Infrastructure doesn't work there because flyoverstan refuses to pay for it. They get scared of any bill for an amount that they cant stuff in a cattle skin. NYC has a nice system interconnected to a variety of areas. In NYC everyone takes the subway from the fry cook, to the mid level exec earning 300k. The subway works just fine, everyone takes it for work. In my 4 years living there I never once met someone who didn't fall into two catagories. 1) Walked to work, 2) took public transport. Boston has a hub and spoke system which is only useful if you are going to or from downtown. As such any job that is not centered in downtown, the public transport system becomes useless. The DC system was fine when I visited.
I am sure there will be someone who falls into this category but the culture will be extremely rigid. Google has many good things going for it, it is however, culturally monolithic and extremely conservative. After my MBA I was interviewing for a product manager position there. It was a rather interesting experience I was speaking with several members from their autonomous car division. Great conversations. During lunch they gave me a chance to speak with one of their team, off record so I could actually ask honest questions, I think this is another very good idea. While I enjoyed the conversation's earlier, I noticed they all were similar. I also noted that while they had different college majors they all dress similar they all spoke similar, they had all gone to the same schools. I ask quite honestly "Hey I noticed that everyone I spoke with today all had a Harvard, Princeton degree, do I honestly have any chance I went to good schools but not the Harvards" his response without any irony was "Don't worry, I am from Stanford and we have a bunch of people from Cal Tech" I laughed and almost just walked out.
some make money, but most lose it.
1.) wtf man. Not once in the whole thread is Wisconsin or Michigan even mentioned ctrl f yields two previous "Wisconsin"s both from you.
2) You are using a very strict term for persuaded. Yes I don't presume that a picture of Hillary switched from wearing an "I'm with her" shirt to donning a bright orange hate. But you are ignoring the million shades of grey in-between. It is very likely that precise shit posting can remind someone to turn out to vote, donate the extra $100 rant an additional time. Done with some intelligence and expertise , which the Russians have in spades, can have a real impact.
3)The source was cited. Here is another one.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voter-turnout-2016-elections
Direct quoote "“You saw turnout spike in more rural counties,” Alexander said. “If you take a look at a lot of the larger cities you did see depressed turnout there."
Having been involved at various positions within infosec I am very well aware of the multitude of threats out there. The Russians are and have been a VERY active,sophisticated and ham-handed player. With all the intelligence agencies cited above stating as much.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/0...
https://www.bloomberg.com/poli...
"Koch Brothers’ Budget of $889 Million for 2016 Is on Par With Both Parties’ Spending" D's spent about $1.5 billion R's spent about $1 billion Koch's spent and additional about $.9 billion. Republicans as always spent more particularly when you consider down ballot races. But in general yes. R's are far better at the "politics" part. Too bad they suck as governing.
1) First paragraph continues to be a straw-man, as the post you responded to indicates that states were not the primary target, low information R's were
2) You underestimate how much low thought people are associated with republicanism http://journals.sagepub.com/do...
3) relative and you are wrong. http://www.electproject.org/ho...
As an easy example/proxy from 2012-2016 voter turnout increased by roughly 2% or total electorate, and 4% in actual voters, in Alabama, Alaska Arkansas, and Arizona.
4) Scaremongering? The CIA, FBI,NSA reporting meddling within the US. With the governments of the UK, Spain, Italy Georgia, Poland, France ALL reporting and documenting a concerted effort to influence their elections. Yeah sure lol. "scaremongering lol"
"is quite unlikely." Here is where we disagree. I think that is exactly what they did and the analysis of their actions supports my hypothesis. They targeted low information R's with pro BLM media specifically designed to incite them. They targeted them with various adds literally associating Clinton with the devil. They actively supported the pizzagate conspiracy theory. These are all verifiable individual actions. They targeted low information R's to turn out their vote. The locations that those R's just happen to be in are the battle ground states.
"So, parallel to the core Democrat low education inner city vote?"
Yes low education Democratic voter participation was down proportionally partialy thanks to R voter suppression efforts.
"And you're going to win them over now by ... calling them stupid?" 1) I don't care about winning over "them" 2) I didn't call them stupid, you just did. 3) Statistics don't lie, a dramatic increase in turnout in very low education rural communities was a core component of the Rs victory.
"Then I suggest you hire those Russians"
No one is accusing the Russians of being stupid, just them abusing the easily confused and manipulated.