Free speech does not mean you can freely divulge secrets you are obligated (by oath or contract) to protect. Those would fall under the heading "Breach of Contract".
I don't, but if it was a command, and Obama does get shot, then the investigators can look up this guy again, and question him in light of the new facts to determine whether it was a command. That's the way it should work. Maybe he'll get a background check now as well, to covertly see if there were any illegal connections, but that should be it.
All I can say is "You did the right thing, judge(s)!".
If the US lauds itself as the freest (did I spell that right?) country of the world, as its founding fathers imagined, then it should be all right to say " Obama 'will have a 50 cal in the head soon'". In my books, such a line only amounts to a threat if there's a reasonable possibility of its execution.
The way I see it, they get to make one hell of a statement. Granted, your point has its merits too, attacking strategic targets to make a statement and an impact, while mine would only make the statement, but not make as much impact as yours. In the end, it might incite civil disobedience in the target country, in response to the increasing policing. {rhetoric}But does civil disobedience still exist?{/rhetoric}
Hated double-reply: "Nobody is that afraid of getting blown up at a checkpoint with their feet on the ground where they can control the situation and escape." Which is precisely why it hits so hard on the human psyche, as the single remaining safe ground is yanked out.
That's true. But in this case, the goal isn't to frighten those around you. The goal is to send a message to the government and population of the country in question, or even the world, that says "WE did this. We CAN do this, again and again. We can outlast you, outman you, outsmart you. You have no chance to stop us. You WILL comply, or we WILL NOT stop."
If you take out enough people with one attack, nobody's going to think about whether they're the Hero or the Bystander. All they're going to think about will be "We're fucked."
Yes, ER had a bunch of such cases too. American hospitals must have it really hard when a Muslim dies, what with "must be buried in 24 hours", and other religious regulations. I also think in some cases, doctors should have the right to override these choices, given that otherwise, they are in violation of their oath.
According to the Hippocratic Oath, I think doctors have to treat everybody, and treat them equally. But I'm not an MD myself, so feel free to disagree...
Terrorists use eight year old kids as vessel for their explosives
I can imagine that, actually. Given a good enough reason, anyone devoted enough to a cause may do something like that. But even Islam fundamentals don't seem to be that devoted or deperate, as we haven't seen a single instance of this, at any time. The same goes for the elderly and disabled (the latter has a very nice depiction in the Da Vinci Code, when Professor Teabing is allowed through a checkpoint with a gun, just because of his mechanically assisted legs make it too awkward for the guards to check him properly).
However, none of this makes a single inch of difference. Terrorists no longer really want to blow up planes, it's just too much hassle. Instead, what we might see in the near future are attacks on the checkpoints themselves: lots of expensive equipment and people queuing up, and all it takes is a backpack full of C4/semtex/whatever, and a load of nails and other scrap metal for shrapnel. Even better if they leave several of these 'surprises' in several key points: the ticket counters, the duty-free shop (is that still outside the secure area?) the luggage check-in counters, the café, etc. Bonus points for making some home-brew shaped charges and leaving them next to support columns, maybe in one of those huge, 200-l backpacks. That way, a small team of, say 20 people, acting coordinated, moving as separate agents to avoid suspicion, can cause hell of a lot more damage than any airplane bombing. Both in lives lost, injuries, and material damage. Hell, with luck, they may even take down the whole freakin' terminal building if they hit just the right spots. And the best thing? None of them have to die to do this! Timers, remote controls, mesh networking the bombs: the possibilities for coordination are endless, elegant, and undetectable.
Why they haven't done this before is beyond me, actually...
That's true as well. But we were talking about whether it would survive the war itself. What comes afterwards is another thing, and it's quite possible that it'll be melted down for the raw materials to be used in rebuilding.
Sure, it would only be prudent. The same way they recommend testing out your newly built RepRap by printing yourself a new one. Maybe they will leave a cache of parts, maybe just the vital ones that make the whole thing go. After all, leaving basically a duplicate of the 60-meter clock you just built would likely be prohibitively expensive...
Oh, I think it would survive easily. It's not near any important targets, has no military value to warrant pointing a warhead at it, and it's buried pretty deep to survive strikes nearby (up to certain values of nearby). Point is, there's no reason it shouldn't survive The Button.
Last time I checked, it was an astronomical computer and mechanical calendar rolled into one. Granted, this came from the translation of what was left of the inscriptions, which match up with some months of the Metonic calendar...
It has stainless steel in it now. But it can run with other materials too, I suspect the choice of materials now is optimized for initial longevity: the later they need replacements, the better chance of someone with the appropriate tech being around to fab them.
Maybe it will, based on their site, they're making it as reliable as it's possible, with multiple power sources and timekeeping instruments. I don't think the costs or the knowledge will be an issue: by design, it's made to be maintainable with Bronze Age tech and its purpose and workings are to be as clear as possible to allow even a primitive civilization to take a look at it and figure out what goes where, and what does what.
Little? In comment view, each click opens the one higher up in the hierarchy. You can't even position the cursor with the mouse, as it steals focus from the editing field; nor click a link, because it opens up the preceding comment first, and only after the entire thread is open can you follow links, since middlemouse doesn't work either.
Yes, editing would be nice. Even Wikia can give you versioned comments, with the edits displayed and reviewable by anyone, even if you're not allowed to delete your comments (you can blank them, but the underlying text can still be viewed in the earlier versions).
As for grammar stuff, I never notice that, my brain autocorrects most errors as I read, so I really need to look for those misplaced commas and stuff.:)
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"Lauds itself", "should be", etc: can you feel the irony?
So, its OK to exhort people to shoot the president, but not to shoot you?
I never said anything to that effect.
What happens if Obama stops being president next year, and his security detail gets smaller? The statute of limitations is still in force...
So what? It's still just as illegal to shoot him when he's president as it is when he's not. Do you have a point to make here?
Free speech does not mean you can freely divulge secrets you are obligated (by oath or contract) to protect. Those would fall under the heading "Breach of Contract".
I don't, but if it was a command, and Obama does get shot, then the investigators can look up this guy again, and question him in light of the new facts to determine whether it was a command. That's the way it should work.
Maybe he'll get a background check now as well, to covertly see if there were any illegal connections, but that should be it.
All I can say is "You did the right thing, judge(s)!".
If the US lauds itself as the freest (did I spell that right?) country of the world, as its founding fathers imagined, then it should be all right to say " Obama 'will have a 50 cal in the head soon'". In my books, such a line only amounts to a threat if there's a reasonable possibility of its execution.
The way I see it, they get to make one hell of a statement. Granted, your point has its merits too, attacking strategic targets to make a statement and an impact, while mine would only make the statement, but not make as much impact as yours.
In the end, it might incite civil disobedience in the target country, in response to the increasing policing. {rhetoric}But does civil disobedience still exist?{/rhetoric}
Hated double-reply:
"Nobody is that afraid of getting blown up at a checkpoint with their feet on the ground where they can control the situation and escape."
Which is precisely why it hits so hard on the human psyche, as the single remaining safe ground is yanked out.
That's true. But in this case, the goal isn't to frighten those around you. The goal is to send a message to the government and population of the country in question, or even the world, that says "WE did this. We CAN do this, again and again. We can outlast you, outman you, outsmart you. You have no chance to stop us. You WILL comply, or we WILL NOT stop."
If you take out enough people with one attack, nobody's going to think about whether they're the Hero or the Bystander. All they're going to think about will be "We're fucked."
Yes, ER had a bunch of such cases too. American hospitals must have it really hard when a Muslim dies, what with "must be buried in 24 hours", and other religious regulations.
I also think in some cases, doctors should have the right to override these choices, given that otherwise, they are in violation of their oath.
Also, LOL at the quote.
According to the Hippocratic Oath, I think doctors have to treat everybody, and treat them equally. But I'm not an MD myself, so feel free to disagree...
Another perfect terrorist is one who used to be a cop. Just like how the perfect cop is one who used to be a thief himself.
Terrorists use eight year old kids as vessel for their explosives
I can imagine that, actually. Given a good enough reason, anyone devoted enough to a cause may do something like that. But even Islam fundamentals don't seem to be that devoted or deperate, as we haven't seen a single instance of this, at any time. The same goes for the elderly and disabled (the latter has a very nice depiction in the Da Vinci Code, when Professor Teabing is allowed through a checkpoint with a gun, just because of his mechanically assisted legs make it too awkward for the guards to check him properly).
However, none of this makes a single inch of difference. Terrorists no longer really want to blow up planes, it's just too much hassle. Instead, what we might see in the near future are attacks on the checkpoints themselves: lots of expensive equipment and people queuing up, and all it takes is a backpack full of C4/semtex/whatever, and a load of nails and other scrap metal for shrapnel. Even better if they leave several of these 'surprises' in several key points: the ticket counters, the duty-free shop (is that still outside the secure area?) the luggage check-in counters, the café, etc. Bonus points for making some home-brew shaped charges and leaving them next to support columns, maybe in one of those huge, 200-l backpacks. That way, a small team of, say 20 people, acting coordinated, moving as separate agents to avoid suspicion, can cause hell of a lot more damage than any airplane bombing. Both in lives lost, injuries, and material damage. Hell, with luck, they may even take down the whole freakin' terminal building if they hit just the right spots.
And the best thing? None of them have to die to do this! Timers, remote controls, mesh networking the bombs: the possibilities for coordination are endless, elegant, and undetectable.
Why they haven't done this before is beyond me, actually...
I think Wanted takes the trophy for terrorist animals. Not bees as such, rats, but they do a whole lot more damage too...
I don't think so, but it sure read like a novel. I'd love to see it adapted for film, though.
Maybe his script was written by Frank Schätzing. The Swarm hits pretty close to this, and dramatized as it is, it's an awesome novel.
My thoughts exactly. I'd call those emails in the screenshot SPAM, and treat them accordingly.
Oh, there will be scrap aplenty. Twisted, rusted, neutron-activated radioactive scrap. Quit splitting hairs, and try to maintain mature discussion!
That's true as well. But we were talking about whether it would survive the war itself. What comes afterwards is another thing, and it's quite possible that it'll be melted down for the raw materials to be used in rebuilding.
Sure, it would only be prudent. The same way they recommend testing out your newly built RepRap by printing yourself a new one.
Maybe they will leave a cache of parts, maybe just the vital ones that make the whole thing go. After all, leaving basically a duplicate of the 60-meter clock you just built would likely be prohibitively expensive...
Oh, I think it would survive easily. It's not near any important targets, has no military value to warrant pointing a warhead at it, and it's buried pretty deep to survive strikes nearby (up to certain values of nearby). Point is, there's no reason it shouldn't survive The Button.
Last time I checked, it was an astronomical computer and mechanical calendar rolled into one. Granted, this came from the translation of what was left of the inscriptions, which match up with some months of the Metonic calendar...
It has stainless steel in it now. But it can run with other materials too, I suspect the choice of materials now is optimized for initial longevity: the later they need replacements, the better chance of someone with the appropriate tech being around to fab them.
Maybe it will, based on their site, they're making it as reliable as it's possible, with multiple power sources and timekeeping instruments. I don't think the costs or the knowledge will be an issue: by design, it's made to be maintainable with Bronze Age tech and its purpose and workings are to be as clear as possible to allow even a primitive civilization to take a look at it and figure out what goes where, and what does what.
I wonder more about whether they'll be playing the Indiana Jones march when they open it up. I know I will when I visit it when it's completed! :)
Little? In comment view, each click opens the one higher up in the hierarchy. You can't even position the cursor with the mouse, as it steals focus from the editing field; nor click a link, because it opens up the preceding comment first, and only after the entire thread is open can you follow links, since middlemouse doesn't work either.
Yes, editing would be nice. Even Wikia can give you versioned comments, with the edits displayed and reviewable by anyone, even if you're not allowed to delete your comments (you can blank them, but the underlying text can still be viewed in the earlier versions).
As for grammar stuff, I never notice that, my brain autocorrects most errors as I read, so I really need to look for those misplaced commas and stuff. :)