all the obvious anecdotal evidence (melting glaciers, early springtimes, etc)
How about paying attention to the planet's natural climate cycles that have been occurring since the beginning of time? Early springtimes? We had a drought here in California that lasted a couple years and that was harked as a sign of global warming. And now last year and this year rains are starting early and they're starting hard. Last year we even had rains (AND SNOW) well into June and early July. We just had our first storm of the season pass through last week and I bet things will be similar to last season... and now THAT'S being harked as a sign of global warming. Well make up your mind. Does global warming cause rain or does it cause drought, because it can't cause both because both happen all the time, global warming or none.
but it seems that someone there has decided that a principle is more important than the quarterly report
What? No. Someone there has decided that they're pissed off DC signed an exclusivity deal with a competitor and now they're retaliating because one of the largest bookstores in the world pulling all your material means you will take a big hit in your income. It has absolutely nothing to do with principles over bottom line.
in Canada we have the choice to pay a premium for the sleazy nickel-and-diming and not paying a premium and getting the twice the nickel-and-diming.
We seem to be lucky in the US. The lower-cost airlines are the ones that seem to have better customer service and less nickel-and-diming. Southwest lacks many of the amenities of more expensive airlines, but tickets are cheap as hell, free checked bags, no change fees, a little more room in each seat (which my 6'4" stature appreciates), friendly service, no bullshit. JetBlue and Virgin are lower on the cost scale, but they are more of an a la carte setup. Most amenities cost extra, but not in a nickel/dimey kind of way and customer service is also great. It's the expensive airlines (United, Delta, Continental, etc) that I absolutely hate flying on because they cost more upfront, charge you for all kinds of bullshit, AND have crappy service and tiny seats.
But what about all the people we saved? Hussein's regime killed and tortured MILLIONS, and he would still be doing it if we hadn't taken him out. Also, al Qaeda and the organizations that support them (The Taliban, etc) would have been able to launch more attacks on us if it hadn't been for our immediate invasion of the Middle East. Our peoples' lives are more important than their peoples' lives. If 1000 innocent Iraqis die to save 1000 Americans, then our military has done their job. Would it be preferable to save 1000 Americans with ZERO innocent Iraqi deaths? Absolutely. But it's not like we're over there killing anybody and everybody. Blame the Iraqi insurgents for putting their own people in the crossfire.
All of the deaths relating to an incipient civil war in Iraq are proximately caused by us.
There has been violence and terror in Iraq since long before we stepped in. Do you remember that guy... I think his name was Saddam Hussein. He was a dictator or something and killed like a million of his own people and tortured and maimed like a couple million more or something like that. The United States had some sort of "key role" in removing him from power and assisting Iraq in organizing a new government. So all that violence and death is going on for years but the second we step in to help, we are suddenly the proximate cause of all of it. Sounds to me like mindless regurgitation of anti-war propaganda.
Wow that didn't even cross my mind. So in addition to contributing to the thread positively, the goatse troll is actually relevant to the topic at hand. Absolutely amazing. A technological marvel.
There is another way to look at this.
Imagine you have gold behind a locked door. Now imagine you have 50 locked doors.
This is your security through obscurity.
You hid the gold under the floorboards. Consider your security broken.
You obviously have some kind of grudge, but I'll humor you. I've seen that report. "This report presents various governmental and non-governmental estimates of Iraqi civilian deaths." Throughout the report you see phrases such as "deaths from violent causes since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom" and "host nation reports capture some types of deaths on which the Coalition does not have visibility, in particular, murders and deaths in locations where Coalition forces are not present." I see no mention of anything along the lines of deaths directly attributed to American military action. These numbers are estimates of ALL violent deaths in Iraq (at the hands of American forces, other Coalition forces, insurgency forces, terrorist forces, etc, etc) since our occupation. What you're doing is misinterpreting data and mindlessly regurgitating anti-war propaganda.
us there killing innocent people day in and day out?
I never said that an innocent non-combatant has never died at the hands of an American soldier, but you said we were killing innocent people on a daily basis and implied that we do nothing to avoid it.
Sadly, although he should have been executed, the latest in the group to be sentenced will get 7 years, 4 with good time, and credit for time served.
What? Jeremy Morlock was sentenced to 24 years in a federal prison, with eligibility for parole after seven, and dishonorable discharge from the military. The one year he spent imprisoned on remand is factored into his sentence. I agree that the sentence should have been life at least, but a plea bargain was made in which Morlock would also testify against four of his fellow douchebags. Again, do some of your own research rather than mindlessly regurgitating anti-war propaganda.
Anything else you wish to cite? Please keep any further examples of innocent deaths at the hands of our military to actual ordered action rather than stupid things done by murderers who shouldn't be a part of our military in the first place.
There seems to be a lot of cherry picking going on.
So if (in your country) suspected terrorists hide abroad it's okay to send drones to kill them? I wonder what the U.S.A. will have to say when the first Russian drones kill some suspected Russian "terrorists" hiding in New York. I'm sure those terrorists want Russia to crumble and I'm sure they would not try to turn themselves in at the Russian embassy.
But I guess that would be different because local Police forces in Yemen, Pakistan and other somehow always had been voluntarily leading the effort, while the US was only providing some technical help.
We wouldn't like any military action happening in our country and would retaliate if Russia ever did something like that. But it wouldn't happen because we would likely help Russia and use our own resources to help locate, arrest, and extradite any terrorists for proper processing in the country where they committed the crimes.
There's another big difference here that you fail to see. The US is one of very few countries involved in large-scale terrorist operations that does not frequently have deadly military and insurgent activities occurring on home soil on a regular basis. Yemen is crawling with such activity and one drone killing one individual barely registers a blip on the military/insurgency violence radar. If Russia were to send a drone here to kill a Russian terrorist it would be perhaps the first foreign military action to take place on American soil since World War 2.
Fuck dd-wrt. Hasn't everyone switched over to openwrt or tomato these days?
I'm a Toamto-holic. dd-wrt just would not work properly on my Cisco/LinksysWRT160N V3 despite careful configuration changes etc. In frustration I installed Tomato and it worked first try right out of the gate. I had also used it on an older Linksys router and it never gave me any grief. Its features cover off my needs and it's been completely hassle free. Just my own experience.
Just an FYI: Newer routers typically need the NEWD2 wireless drivers which old DD-WRT doesn't have. The DD-WRT homepage hasn't been really updated in I don't even know how long and doesn't make any mention of such things. I wrote most of the WRT160Nv3 section of Linksys WRT150N & WRT160N - DD-WRT Wiki after I got mine working and I've never had a problem with it like I had with old WRT54G's. I've never used Tomato and didn't know it was even compatible with the later Linksys models, but if you ever want to give DD-WRT another shot that guide will get you through it.
I've never had a problem using the latest release from ftp://dd-wrt.com/others/eko/V24-K26/. The current latest isn't actually a global release. Go to 17084 and download the one labelled WRT160Nv3.
What router are you using? Eko has been updating his K26 (pretty much all recent Cisco Linksys routers use K24) firmware every few months. I'm using a WRT160Nv3 running K26 build 17084.
No, it doesn't work like that. Google has their process always running in the background. It handles the updating process when they're not running, at the cost of having always-on and memory taking process running from the earth's largest advertising corporation.
Really? I didn't notice. I guess it's using so much memory that it generates a rift in the memoryspace-clocktime continuum that results in my computer having more memory and processing power than it says it does which compensates for the insane amount of resources that Google's auto-updater consumes.
Or perhaps the reason I didn't notice is because it's actually using hardly any resources on the rare occasion that it's even running.
Because it's not as though Amazon is able to get deals on all the parts for buying them in bulk.
Y'know I think they might have taken that into account. My local friendly electronics store is selling 7" displays for $265, three times the cost estimate in TFA.
For one, the cost estimates are for wholesale prices directly from the manufacturer and they're for just the panel. Is your friendly electronics store selling just an LCD panel with no frame or buttons or anything attached to it except a ribbon cable to plug into a circuit board? For two, even if they take general bulk pricing into account, there's no way for them to know what Amazon is paying. Amazon is a huge company and they've probably got contracts to make several million units. You can get pretty good deals when buying that many of anything.
There's a huge difference between China vs Tibet and US vs Al Qaeda. China took control of Tibet and Tibet wants independence. The US was attacked by a terrorist organization that wants America to crumble. We don't have the authority to go into a country and arrest somebody to take them to trial. If Awlaki had come to the US (or an American embassy) and turned himself in, then he would be on trial. But this was a military operation with the goal of killing him because we had no other way of bringing him to justice and eliminating his influence over al Qaeda and other radical terrorist groups.
The China vs Tibet situation is much more like that whole England vs The Colonies debacle that happened in the late 1700s. I don't really remember the details -- I was pretty young at the time -- but something about the colonies wanting independence from the oppressive English government so England sent a bunch of military forces to the colonies, the colonies fought back and won and now they're known as the United States of America. If you're saying England should have instead arrested all our leaders and brought them to trial rather than trying to kill them, I think there would not be a United States.
I don't believe we are "formally" "at war with" anybody. We are taking military action against Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations in the Middle East and elsewhere. I'd say that satisfies the "when in actual service in time of War or public danger" requirement. Do you disagree with the killing of a top Al Qaeda figure, or are you just saying things for the sake of argument?
Because it's not as though Amazon is able to get deals on all the parts for buying them in bulk. Yeah, it would cost you $210 if you were to buy all the parts to build your own Kindle Fire, but I don't get why people think it costs Amazon that much.
compared to a country like Germany, we spend use 4x the oil per capita. That means so much more capital going out of the country to squander on a resource when we don't have to.
That has to do with our geography more than anything else. Germany is about 3/4 the area of the state of California but has over double the population. Countries like Germany are basically filled with people. There are people everywhere, which means everything to fill your necessities are always nearby. Not so around here. I live in the North Bay. The nearest fairly-populated city to mine is 10 miles down the 101. The nearest metropolitan center is San Francisco, about 60 miles south of me. My job is 90 miles away. I drive almost 180 miles every day to get to work and back. I used to work in San Francisco but I was transferred to a different site a few weeks ago and I still haven't determined whether it would be beneficial to me financially to find a place closer to work or to buy a tank of gas twice a week. Things like this is also why public transportation and commuter rails haven't quite caught on at a massive scale in the US. Sure, they work great if you only live a couple miles from work in a large city that can afford such infrastructure. There is a decent light rail network through the South and East Bay and Silicon Valley, but there is literally no way for me to get to San Francisco via public transportation unless I go by bus, and it takes 2 hours when driving takes less than an hour AND it doesn't save me any money. And it's all because of the huge space between population centers and there's not a whole lot anybody can do to fix that.
You're kidding, right? You really want to make the argument that because a website uses HTTP, and HTTP can be used to disseminate illegal content, that the website should be blocked as containing illegal content? Are you an **AA shill?
You're kidding, right? He was playing devil's advocate to point out the flaws in the phrase "application or webpage that is guaranteed to have no illegal content". Now put some pants on and get the hell out of my front yard you crazy drunk.
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all the obvious anecdotal evidence (melting glaciers, early springtimes, etc)
How about paying attention to the planet's natural climate cycles that have been occurring since the beginning of time? Early springtimes? We had a drought here in California that lasted a couple years and that was harked as a sign of global warming. And now last year and this year rains are starting early and they're starting hard. Last year we even had rains (AND SNOW) well into June and early July. We just had our first storm of the season pass through last week and I bet things will be similar to last season... and now THAT'S being harked as a sign of global warming. Well make up your mind. Does global warming cause rain or does it cause drought, because it can't cause both because both happen all the time, global warming or none.
but it seems that someone there has decided that a principle is more important than the quarterly report
What? No. Someone there has decided that they're pissed off DC signed an exclusivity deal with a competitor and now they're retaliating because one of the largest bookstores in the world pulling all your material means you will take a big hit in your income. It has absolutely nothing to do with principles over bottom line.
in Canada we have the choice to pay a premium for the sleazy nickel-and-diming and not paying a premium and getting the twice the nickel-and-diming.
We seem to be lucky in the US. The lower-cost airlines are the ones that seem to have better customer service and less nickel-and-diming. Southwest lacks many of the amenities of more expensive airlines, but tickets are cheap as hell, free checked bags, no change fees, a little more room in each seat (which my 6'4" stature appreciates), friendly service, no bullshit. JetBlue and Virgin are lower on the cost scale, but they are more of an a la carte setup. Most amenities cost extra, but not in a nickel/dimey kind of way and customer service is also great. It's the expensive airlines (United, Delta, Continental, etc) that I absolutely hate flying on because they cost more upfront, charge you for all kinds of bullshit, AND have crappy service and tiny seats.
But what about all the people we saved? Hussein's regime killed and tortured MILLIONS, and he would still be doing it if we hadn't taken him out. Also, al Qaeda and the organizations that support them (The Taliban, etc) would have been able to launch more attacks on us if it hadn't been for our immediate invasion of the Middle East. Our peoples' lives are more important than their peoples' lives. If 1000 innocent Iraqis die to save 1000 Americans, then our military has done their job. Would it be preferable to save 1000 Americans with ZERO innocent Iraqi deaths? Absolutely. But it's not like we're over there killing anybody and everybody. Blame the Iraqi insurgents for putting their own people in the crossfire.
We've killed approximately 100,000 civilians in Iraq
From your own link: "Included are deaths attributable to coalition and insurgent military action, sectarian violence and criminal violence"
Sorry man, but you're full of shit.
All of the deaths relating to an incipient civil war in Iraq are proximately caused by us.
There has been violence and terror in Iraq since long before we stepped in. Do you remember that guy... I think his name was Saddam Hussein. He was a dictator or something and killed like a million of his own people and tortured and maimed like a couple million more or something like that. The United States had some sort of "key role" in removing him from power and assisting Iraq in organizing a new government. So all that violence and death is going on for years but the second we step in to help, we are suddenly the proximate cause of all of it. Sounds to me like mindless regurgitation of anti-war propaganda.
Wow that didn't even cross my mind. So in addition to contributing to the thread positively, the goatse troll is actually relevant to the topic at hand. Absolutely amazing. A technological marvel.
A new kind of goatse troll in which the troll commenter hides his actions by contributing to the thread in a positive manner.
*golfclap*
There is another way to look at this. Imagine you have gold behind a locked door. Now imagine you have 50 locked doors. This is your security through obscurity.
You hid the gold under the floorboards. Consider your security broken.
You obviously have some kind of grudge, but I'll humor you. I've seen that report. "This report presents various governmental and non-governmental estimates of Iraqi civilian deaths." Throughout the report you see phrases such as "deaths from violent causes since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom" and "host nation reports capture some types of deaths on which the Coalition does not have visibility, in particular, murders and deaths in locations where Coalition forces are not present." I see no mention of anything along the lines of deaths directly attributed to American military action. These numbers are estimates of ALL violent deaths in Iraq (at the hands of American forces, other Coalition forces, insurgency forces, terrorist forces, etc, etc) since our occupation. What you're doing is misinterpreting data and mindlessly regurgitating anti-war propaganda.
Anything else?
us there killing innocent people day in and day out?
I never said that an innocent non-combatant has never died at the hands of an American soldier, but you said we were killing innocent people on a daily basis and implied that we do nothing to avoid it.
Sadly, although he should have been executed, the latest in the group to be sentenced will get 7 years, 4 with good time, and credit for time served.
What? Jeremy Morlock was sentenced to 24 years in a federal prison, with eligibility for parole after seven, and dishonorable discharge from the military. The one year he spent imprisoned on remand is factored into his sentence. I agree that the sentence should have been life at least, but a plea bargain was made in which Morlock would also testify against four of his fellow douchebags. Again, do some of your own research rather than mindlessly regurgitating anti-war propaganda.
Anything else you wish to cite? Please keep any further examples of innocent deaths at the hands of our military to actual ordered action rather than stupid things done by murderers who shouldn't be a part of our military in the first place.
us there killing innocent people day in and day out?
Excuse me? Care to cite your sources? Or are you just regurgitating whatever propaganda the anti-war protesters throw at you?
There seems to be a lot of cherry picking going on. So if (in your country) suspected terrorists hide abroad it's okay to send drones to kill them? I wonder what the U.S.A. will have to say when the first Russian drones kill some suspected Russian "terrorists" hiding in New York. I'm sure those terrorists want Russia to crumble and I'm sure they would not try to turn themselves in at the Russian embassy. But I guess that would be different because local Police forces in Yemen, Pakistan and other somehow always had been voluntarily leading the effort, while the US was only providing some technical help.
We wouldn't like any military action happening in our country and would retaliate if Russia ever did something like that. But it wouldn't happen because we would likely help Russia and use our own resources to help locate, arrest, and extradite any terrorists for proper processing in the country where they committed the crimes.
There's another big difference here that you fail to see. The US is one of very few countries involved in large-scale terrorist operations that does not frequently have deadly military and insurgent activities occurring on home soil on a regular basis. Yemen is crawling with such activity and one drone killing one individual barely registers a blip on the military/insurgency violence radar. If Russia were to send a drone here to kill a Russian terrorist it would be perhaps the first foreign military action to take place on American soil since World War 2.
Fuck dd-wrt. Hasn't everyone switched over to openwrt or tomato these days?
I'm a Toamto-holic. dd-wrt just would not work properly on my Cisco/LinksysWRT160N V3 despite careful configuration changes etc. In frustration I installed Tomato and it worked first try right out of the gate. I had also used it on an older Linksys router and it never gave me any grief. Its features cover off my needs and it's been completely hassle free. Just my own experience.
Just an FYI: Newer routers typically need the NEWD2 wireless drivers which old DD-WRT doesn't have. The DD-WRT homepage hasn't been really updated in I don't even know how long and doesn't make any mention of such things. I wrote most of the WRT160Nv3 section of Linksys WRT150N & WRT160N - DD-WRT Wiki after I got mine working and I've never had a problem with it like I had with old WRT54G's. I've never used Tomato and didn't know it was even compatible with the later Linksys models, but if you ever want to give DD-WRT another shot that guide will get you through it.
I've never had a problem using the latest release from ftp://dd-wrt.com/others/eko/V24-K26/. The current latest isn't actually a global release. Go to 17084 and download the one labelled WRT160Nv3.
What router are you using? Eko has been updating his K26 (pretty much all recent Cisco Linksys routers use K24) firmware every few months. I'm using a WRT160Nv3 running K26 build 17084.
And given that it was satellite, wouldn't that also qualify as "in the cloud"? ;-)
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No, it doesn't work like that. Google has their process always running in the background. It handles the updating process when they're not running, at the cost of having always-on and memory taking process running from the earth's largest advertising corporation.
Really? I didn't notice. I guess it's using so much memory that it generates a rift in the memoryspace-clocktime continuum that results in my computer having more memory and processing power than it says it does which compensates for the insane amount of resources that Google's auto-updater consumes.
Or perhaps the reason I didn't notice is because it's actually using hardly any resources on the rare occasion that it's even running.
Because it's not as though Amazon is able to get deals on all the parts for buying them in bulk.
Y'know I think they might have taken that into account. My local friendly electronics store is selling 7" displays for $265, three times the cost estimate in TFA.
For one, the cost estimates are for wholesale prices directly from the manufacturer and they're for just the panel. Is your friendly electronics store selling just an LCD panel with no frame or buttons or anything attached to it except a ribbon cable to plug into a circuit board? For two, even if they take general bulk pricing into account, there's no way for them to know what Amazon is paying. Amazon is a huge company and they've probably got contracts to make several million units. You can get pretty good deals when buying that many of anything.
There's a huge difference between China vs Tibet and US vs Al Qaeda. China took control of Tibet and Tibet wants independence. The US was attacked by a terrorist organization that wants America to crumble. We don't have the authority to go into a country and arrest somebody to take them to trial. If Awlaki had come to the US (or an American embassy) and turned himself in, then he would be on trial. But this was a military operation with the goal of killing him because we had no other way of bringing him to justice and eliminating his influence over al Qaeda and other radical terrorist groups.
The China vs Tibet situation is much more like that whole England vs The Colonies debacle that happened in the late 1700s. I don't really remember the details -- I was pretty young at the time -- but something about the colonies wanting independence from the oppressive English government so England sent a bunch of military forces to the colonies, the colonies fought back and won and now they're known as the United States of America. If you're saying England should have instead arrested all our leaders and brought them to trial rather than trying to kill them, I think there would not be a United States.
We're at war with Yemen?
I don't believe we are "formally" "at war with" anybody. We are taking military action against Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations in the Middle East and elsewhere. I'd say that satisfies the "when in actual service in time of War or public danger" requirement. Do you disagree with the killing of a top Al Qaeda figure, or are you just saying things for the sake of argument?
Because it's not as though Amazon is able to get deals on all the parts for buying them in bulk. Yeah, it would cost you $210 if you were to buy all the parts to build your own Kindle Fire, but I don't get why people think it costs Amazon that much.
compared to a country like Germany, we spend use 4x the oil per capita. That means so much more capital going out of the country to squander on a resource when we don't have to.
That has to do with our geography more than anything else. Germany is about 3/4 the area of the state of California but has over double the population. Countries like Germany are basically filled with people. There are people everywhere, which means everything to fill your necessities are always nearby. Not so around here. I live in the North Bay. The nearest fairly-populated city to mine is 10 miles down the 101. The nearest metropolitan center is San Francisco, about 60 miles south of me. My job is 90 miles away. I drive almost 180 miles every day to get to work and back. I used to work in San Francisco but I was transferred to a different site a few weeks ago and I still haven't determined whether it would be beneficial to me financially to find a place closer to work or to buy a tank of gas twice a week. Things like this is also why public transportation and commuter rails haven't quite caught on at a massive scale in the US. Sure, they work great if you only live a couple miles from work in a large city that can afford such infrastructure. There is a decent light rail network through the South and East Bay and Silicon Valley, but there is literally no way for me to get to San Francisco via public transportation unless I go by bus, and it takes 2 hours when driving takes less than an hour AND it doesn't save me any money. And it's all because of the huge space between population centers and there's not a whole lot anybody can do to fix that.
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I see your using base 10. We use base 10 around these parts.
Oh wow. I've never thought about that before. Clever.
You're kidding, right? You really want to make the argument that because a website uses HTTP, and HTTP can be used to disseminate illegal content, that the website should be blocked as containing illegal content? Are you an **AA shill?
You're kidding, right? He was playing devil's advocate to point out the flaws in the phrase "application or webpage that is guaranteed to have no illegal content". Now put some pants on and get the hell out of my front yard you crazy drunk.